Ex-clients claim Hildebrandt gave unfounded sex-addiction diagnosis | Banfield

Parenting KZbinr Ruby Franke and her business partner Jodi Hildebrandt were arrested last month on charges of aggravated child abuse after an emaciated child reportedly escaped to a neighbor’s house to ask for food. Now, former clients of Hildebrandt are claiming that she was abusing her patients as a counselor. Brian Tibbets and Spencer Tibbets join "Banfield" exclusively to share their story.
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[@annonimiss6422]

What she did to the 16 year old should be considered some sort of sexual abuse.

[@goldenphoenix4747]

It is kids don’t need adult programs

[@msladydi123]

Let the people "Terrorized" by Jodi become her" Judge and Jury" and unanimously decide her fate! Also, what about all Jodi's accomplices why are they not on trial? Hitler did not genocide innocent people alone??????

[@nenej12]

I think this is the nail in the coffin for Ms Hildebrandt…she has to many people coming out claiming the same horrible things she has done!

[@sarkahalastova9667]

Here we go again. Strictly separating men from their family for the purpose of healing was Jodi’s MO. Same with Kevin Franke not seeing his kids for 12 months. Mind you, I don’t say that to make up excuses for him.

[@nenej12]

Yeah at this point he looks like a saint lol and she looks like the devil

[@MeOhMyOh2324]

And the difference is the father here finally put his foot down and intervened. Where was Kevin when his children needed him?

[@annonimiss6422]

​@@MeOhMyOh2324Because obviously there was a point where this dad was able to see his children. Kevin might never have had that ability.

[@SmurfPerfect]

Exactly my wife and me are starting to feel suspicious Jody is a groomer this is her MO she is secretly prob either Trans or a secret Man Lusting after hot blondes like Rubby. Sick game!

[@MeOhMyOh2324]

@@annonimiss6422 as a father, he has a right to see his kids.

[@Beachbby850]

I’m so glad the victims are feeling empowered enough to come forward. Imagine suffering in silence for this long, losing your family and your good name along with it-all based on some quack who convinced your wife to isolate you, your children, and then make up unfounded diagnoses. Mind blowing

[@astaraoneill9166]

Thanking you for bringing this to light- exposing Jodi’s cult controlling tactics. That woman needs to spend the rest of her life behind bars. She is a severe danger to society.

[@bbloodyangel1]

i hope this continues to get coverage, those kids deserve justice :(

[@nenej12]

The Ruby FRANKE celebrity name is definitely going to keep it going

[@Stephanie-yv3kj]

@bbloodyangel1 , I totally agree with you !😮 I raised two wonderful Sons with no trouble at all and I was a stay at home Mom . 💚💙

[@oewpnw]

I can't wait to see this horrible woman get what's coming to her. No punishment will ever make up for what's she done to all of these people.

[@queenofscots839]

Good for them coming forward, hope the rest of her victims join !

[@nenej12]

Too many people are coming out about her I think she is done!

[@debbiechambers4654]

What is crazy is the fact Jodi is single & her kids don’t go near her! 🤦‍♀️says a lot about the man/children hater 💔🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@SmurfPerfect]

Jody is a Trans or secret MAN bet my life on it she was horny for Rubby bc she is OBSESSED with hot blondes her “therapy” is all just a trap to control hot women.

[@mothersgauri4137]

I hope it gets stressed that the Mormon Church was promoting Jody, paying her, and covering up her crimes. This is SO much bigger than one therapist. And since this case is going on in Salt Lake City, UT....Mormon land....I can only wonder what sort of "justice" will be seen. All of this needs wide open discussion and exposure.

[@bewitched3912]

Yes!! Thank you for pointing out the truth!!

[@blackthornsloe8049]

This woman needs to be in prison for a long time . She is revolting .

[@nanasloves]

There are more! I know a man that was soooo abused. He’s so broken that I don’t think he’d ever come out and tell his story, it’s unbelievable what he went through. VERY similar to Adam’s experience.

[@merricat3025]

Adam's story on MSP was heartbreaking. They were court ordered to remove it.

[@nthatomalope]

Please find and interiew or give context on her ex husband Brenten C. Pugh & two kids. WHY IS NOT ONE news channel discussing this?

[@ladyj.9350]

I think Jodi has traumatized and tortured those people so much that the mere mention of her name probably makes them ill

[@redrose41000]

@nthatomalope - I have asked that question repeatedly!! Thank you for bringing it up!

[@aznmochibunny]

Her eldest daughter does not want anything to do with her. So much so that she changed her name. She obviously does not want to be found to be interviewed.

[@lynnepaulocsak122]

How this woman was licensed.

[@wendyodell356]

All I can say is Oh my God, WTF?

[@asbisi]

It means the world these victims speak out. Such a great support for the children - especially the little one accused of SA.

[@steverinaldi890]

Sadly I tried counseling for a couple things in my lifetime. From my experience, many seem to be of no help and create more issues. One was a marriage counselor and he told my wife I probably cheated on her throughout our marriage and prior?? Anyway nothing compared to these poor people but support many counselors just aren’t good. Sadly it gets expensive trying to try them out to see which one may be beneficial

[@colourfulsouls]

This just gets more and more disturbing

[@melodioushaste]

Why didn't you give the guy on the bottom right a chance to speak?

[@tdhawk7284]

While focus is rightly on Jodi, Ruby, and the father, the LDS church needs to be held accountable also. The LDS church was sending people and couples to Jodi. I suspect the LDS church was getting kickbacks from Jodi. If there is one constant with the LDS church hierarchy, it’s love of money. However, I’m not sure a state level court in Utah can be fair and hold the church accountable.

[@deborahmulkey1627]

More like she was getting kick backs from the LDS church..... She had a 6 million home in the Utah desert. And yes it's worth 6 million not 3 million as some reports have said.

[@LaurieFloodTeacher]

The silence of the church on this topic is deafening.

[@tdhawk7284]

@@deborahmulkey1627 Dang! Well, now she can rot in prison for a while.

[@stugrant01]

The young man says that he was in "lockdown" five years ago (which is before covid). Reminds me of Jess-H (Jodi's niece) and all of her forced isolation. There is more to that poor kid's story.

[@annonimiss6422]

She should be labeled with every disorder and addiction she made her clients believe they have, and she should be forced to get treatment for everything she made her clients get treatment for, and all her protests about not needing the treatments should be used to label her of having even more disorders and addictions (that she doesn't have). Now that would be justice 😁

[@tanyam.2982]

Congrats on 1M subs, news nation! I really appreciate your coverage. Ive been here since below 100k subs!

[@kittypantz]

You didn’t even speak to Adam? Is there more to this "interview "?

[@Stephanie-yv3kj]

That Woman is insane ! I hope they give both women life in prison !

[@bobbicatt]

Jody is a man-hater. It’s very clear if you read her book , you will learn the reasons she turned out the way she did. I have no empathy for her or Ruby. Those poor kids will need so much therapy .

[@goldcat3512]

They should be adding some charges to Jodi Hildebrandt for how she treated this 16 year old kid. Completely horrendous. You don't put a minor in a group of adults talking about their sexual issues. 🤮

[@kristimunn3010]

This woman has a pattern.

[@DisHammerhand]

Did not think this was a good interview. The media person was steering the guests too much and did not let Adam Steed talk at all.

[@gdiaz2485]

And that’s a dad that loves his kids 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@stugrant01]

The young man said that he enjoyed going to Jodi because he had been locked down for so long. This was before Covid, and he is likely referring to his crazy parents locking him down. MOST kids who went to Jodi had abusive Mormon parents.

[@monicascott2354]

OooooOOO! I've been wondering if something like this would come out. Jodi's projecting her issues onto her clients.

[@coll4455]

Thank you all for coming forward! I hope you all are getting the help you need

[@nickcharles6530]

The third guy didn’t even get to talk! What the hell? Poor guy sat there like a bump on a log for nothing. I’ve never seen any footage or interviews of/with this lady, but she sounds like a basket case herself…good thing these men escaped her clutches.

[@Jessseven-m5d]

Imagine paying an exorbitant amount of money for "counseling" of the marital or family variety, only to have this whacko tear your entire family apart and ruin your reputation in the community? She's divorced and lost custody of her own children... How was she able to give any counseling or advice!? To anyone!?

[@merricat3025]

Lds had her on list of referred counselors. They even paid her

[@bewitched3912]

Mormons. They will believe literally anything with the quantity of brainwashing they must endure by the CULTure

[@Taureanfitness]

It seems like several other men are telling the same story that kevin frankie is telling

[@kayhayes5114]

Again the same story. It’s disturbing that these men were ok with not seeing their kids for long periods of time. The marriage above all else and Jodi knew it and used it to abuse.

[@unhealingwithsandy]

It could have to do with their religion, marriage status determines their eternal salvation. That's pretty good way to instill fear and obedience even against their parental instincts. Idk just speculating.

[@kayhayes5114]

@@unhealingwithsandy Agreed. It’s the one common denominator

[@PaganPunk]

She used their Belief of their Religion to 'Blackmail' them and go Against them if they didn't comply to her!!! ...... Which is what many Religions do!!! Only the Mormons Completly kick them Out and Gaslight them ....Alienating them from family still in the Mormon religion!! You can see why they are only coming forward now!! Took a little boy to kick it off though....bless him!! Children shouldn't be Made to follow any religion until they are adults and have their own choice

[@PaganPunk]

​@@unhealingwithsandyYou have that down to a Tee!

[@mountainman4859]

It has more to do with the teachings of their church than it does with the marriage.

[@francineproulx2535]

Prison for both of them....cruel and bad what they done

[@Loveroffood41]

The only person who can say they have an addiction is the patient.

[@bkang]

Here we are again - Jodi separating a husband from a wife and threatening him with divorce and / or stigma over non-existent sexual issues if he dares to come back before she allows it (which she never does) …..say what you want about Kevin Franke, and I don’t think he’s winning any father of the year awards by a long shot, but I’d put money on this being the reason why he didn’t see his kids for 13 months 💔 Jodi is evil 💔💔💔

[@kathiewhite443]

I hope your channel doesn't get a court order to take this story down!!! It's seriously happening to others!!

[@umeshvaghjiani822]

You can bet Jodi has a lot more victims. Men are not quick to come forward.

[@TaharkahX]

It's not just Hildebrandt. 50% of therapists need to have their license revoked. Bunch of miserable quacks.

[@chrisbgood2359]

Many disturbed people are drawn to the helping profession. It is scary

[@user-us3xi7se5b]

The good ol' therapist tricks in the book to keep 'em coming. I also blame the parents for freaking out over video games. Imagine what the kid had to go through to get a secret cell phone in 2023. The kid's parents are still living in 1985.

[@lightninggirl33]

She is disgusting and should be jailed for the rest of her miserable life and I hope she has to go to group therapy with real sex offenders!

[@yvonneclarkson5500]

It is appalling that this woman has been getting away with treating people like this for so long! So many people have had their lives and marriages/relationships destroyed by her. Satan must be very happy with her!😢

[@ladyj.9350]

According to her niece, Jodi sincerely believed that Jesus was working through her everyday to fight Satan who was possessing her clients

[@christinebrown179]

Why are wasn’t Adam allowed to speak?

[@Moonflower52]

I will say that Jody is nothing but an evil monster.

[@mamabear52]

With the 16 year old, did he meet in group or did these adult men talk to him on the phone about their issues? I thought he said something about a 45 minute call, even the adult men should have opted out of any situation that involved a child. It is just sickening to me if the boy was a target of any members perversion. Excluding people like Adam Steed, who were victims, how is she not subject to arrest now, he is only 21 years old, are there other children she also placed in adult groups?

[@mountainman4859]

What about the 3rd guy? Adam Steed. Not a single question to him and she really screwed him over.

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

Why doesn't Adam Steed speak in this clip?

[@2012MyVideos2012]

Counselors dont take sides, are not rude. Be careful when you go to a counselor. You can be desteoyed instead of been helped. Run away. Dont let this monsters destroy you. Some are the worst.

[@RealtalkLindy]

Extremely disturbing.

[@jenna2431]

Jodi's power came straight from the church. All she had to do was call your bishop and you might lose your temple recommend and probably your calling...and your dignity. She had all these men by their b*lls.

[@lorieromano]

There is no end to this woman...what are her motives?..Obviously money but what else is going on there? Control? Just your garden variety sociopathic sadist? She is one twisty sister

[@Bess9779]

I imagine this is why Kevin ended up being convinced the family was better off without him. Not to mention her threatening his BYU job. I don't think most men would be convinced of this type of accusation, but add in an unGodly religious dynamic & then crap happens.

[@tatianagranger2427]

Exactly. It sucks that people are putting him in the same box. He would have lost his job, church, friends, and his family. He still was problematic and needs to answer for stuff, but he’s not the same.

[@unhealingwithsandy]

Whats weird tho is that the mormon religion sees men as head of house and superior to women. Women don't get any power in the church as far as being able to call the shots. How those two women got him to let them have all the control is beyond me.

[@Bess9779]

@@tatianagranger2427 I agree. It's still an indication he's too weak of a man to ever take care of these kids. He also abandoned them & caused great emotional harm.

[@bewitched3912]

Weak Mormons. He was a BYU professor 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@martytrueblood5902]

The criminal's sentimentality reveals itself in compassion for babies and pets. The criminal uses insight to justify heinous acts. Therapy has potential for non-criminals For criminals, it becomes one more criminal operation.

[@HeatherRose2023]

Lots of crazy people become counselors.

[@chrisbgood2359]

💯 this is very true!

[@TheoCahillVarella]

As a psychology student aspiring to become a proficient therapist, I am deeply intrigued by this case and its ongoing evolution. It is disheartening to witness the immense anguish and misery that can result from an improper therapeutic approach and therapists with ill intentions. It becomes evident that it is imperative for governments and professional associations to assume greater responsibility in monitoring and scrutinizing the therapeutic practices employed by therapists, increasing their investigative efforts and vigilance.

[@whiteraven69]

Where was Adam’s interview in this…he didn’t even speak.

[@griffin3578]

How did the board not investigate her diagnosing conditions that don’t exist?!

[@ArtfullyMusingLaura]

That is what Kevin should have done: have contact with his kids anyway and take them away.

[@carolynmoe1796]

Jodi didn't just share secrets about Adam Steed, but also made $hit up about him!

[@christinecrowley2133]

Was shocked to see MSPC take down Adams video.

[@mariannezwicker3304]

There are so many unqualified “counselors” out there. Most made my daughter’s issues worse!

[@Maryculligan]

Per M church, how is “porn” defined? My research suggests sports magazine w women in swim suits is “porn”. Clarify?

[@mollyringwerm9224]

Meanwhile, she was on probation and had her license re-instated. God bless America and its dying, rotting "medical" model.

[@tashaiscool001]

I think she’s into women and so she separates families because she has this huge resentment towards men thinking all men are bad and evil! She the befriends these women in such intimate and personal ways. She stays at their home she knows all the kids, kinda takes on a father role and then tries to make it permanent…crazy times..

[@pennythpmas5787]

Yes! If you were ever MOLESTED OR PLAY VIDEO GAMES, YOU TOO ARE AN OFFENDER!!!!? What craziness! May God bless these people trying to get closer to The Lord. May The Lord God bless you and reveal REAL TRUTH. Jodi is a false teacher! May she go to jail for DECADES!

[@westpnt]

This is probably why Ruby falsely accused her son of molesting other children.

[@annevey6543]

it would be interesting to look statistically at what percentage of couples had their marriages saved and what percentage had their marriages ruined. By separating couples she was lilekly undermining the relationship, causing them more stress and needing more of her 'counseling'. It was an ingeneous scheme to keep couples in ditsress and pay for more of her services. At the same time as these marriages were creating income for her, they believed that they were doing the right thing to strengthen their relationionships.

[@harley6222]

I see it that way too. Money $$

[@SimplyHavenHomestead]

I hope many others come forward and press charges on Jodi.

[@phabulouss1]

Hildebrandt is the sicko. 😵

[@tatianagranger2427]

And The Mormon Church KNEW & PAID for people to go see her. THEY KNEW AND KNOW. Enough! I was raised Catholic and HAD to accept what was going on, they DO TOO. PERIOD.

[@erikasantoshafitness348]

I think we’re seeing just the beginning of the this.

[@jodavis650]

More men please come forward..

[@mrcatfish2100]

Wtf

[@necieden]

😢😢all about submitting claims for payment, destroying people's lives.

[@hwezda]

This woman hated, HATED men. She had no use for them in any aspect of her personal life as well.

[@angel-astanfield7939]

Mormon Stories had a great 5 hr video with Adam Paul Steed, but they were served with a court order and forced to take it down. The Hidden True Crime KZbin channel as a great, over 3 hour podcast interview, no video, with Adam. If you are wanting the story but couldn’t get to Mormon Stories head on over there to hear Adam’s story. 💕

[@raqueacevedo1509]

My heart breaks for all the victims. How come a religious organization referred pacients to "a professional"?. This lds organization is so involved....shame on them.

[@mamabear52]

Common theme, Jodi is intermediate between husband and wife, father and children, all males now speak of their ex-wife, just astonishing how she was able to get away with this manipulation for what now seems to be decades. It is not as if she is in some secret compound in the middle of a forest. Everyone reported Ruby and Kevin, how did Jodi fly under the radar, especially after her one egregious suspension almost two decades ago with Adam Steed?

[@petrasmith2346]

This info right here is the evidence that Kevin was also a Victim of Jodie. 😢

[@unhealingwithsandy]

Can all these victims get cases against her or is it just kind of pointless since she'll most likely be going to prison for life. Idk what kind of justice they can really serve but it would be nice if they could get it. That young man seems to have a case, and especially Adam seems he could have a case against the LDS church and Jodi. Jesse too should get some justice even though they experienced it so long ago.

[@amybe3]

Im curious what diagnoses do Jodi has being the crazy exploitative therapist she’s been. This is huge!

[@SweetUniverse]

I think lying and control might be compulsions

[@MidWestLife2022]

Does her history really matter as they knew that or should have known that and gave her a plea deal anyway 🤦🤦🤦😥 This is NOT the first time this woman has been in the media and none of them are good

[@createone100]

Jodi is clearly completely obsessed with sex.

[@JodiSmith-n4n]

We’re are Jodi’s children? And husband?

[@sydcrafty5498]

It seems like Jodie loves to "even the score" so to speak. This is how she coped from losing her own children and husband by destroying vulnerable families, marriages and lives.

[@wotiluv]

Sound familiar?

[@mariapilarme]

Everyone goes to the first counselor without any investigation! And they believe whatever they say. It’s a lesson to learn. Check their license call your state and see if they are licensed and not complaints. I just don’t believe in people like that, they don’t know nothing about you.

[@batcactus6046]

Wait- why didn't Adam get a bit?

[@jaq837]

I feel both Ruby and Kevin were victims if Jody.

[@TShirtAndReeboks]

Definitely, but Ruby was an adult and the children were in her custody so she is responsible. Just the same as if a mom lets her boyfriend abuse her kids.

[@saltinawenchito898]

Their whole family are victims of Jodi. But Ruby and Kevin were abusing their children long before they allowed Jodi to abuse them.

[@stephaniesmith1086]

Ruby was abusive before she met Jodi. It just escalated. But she willing participated and then encouraged others to do it when filming videos. She promoted this behavior so she isn't a victim.

[@monicascott2354]

The LDS church needs to stop being so insular. All religion is merely a belief, but as an ex-LDS member, I can TOTALLY see how crap like this happens. Same with all the other LDS families that're in the news right now.

[@pateicialane4740]

Why not interview billionaire head of church ? Cult

[@goldenphoenix4747]

A 16 year old kid in an sex addict programs no, most people in those programs would have turned away. Those kids don’t need to be in a program with the big boys.

[@gaiagreen2690]

I am sorry, but what kind of religious fanatics send their kid to full blown therapy because that teen was so isolated he got himself a phone to play video games? And why is all the focus now centered on Jodi, while the fact that hundreds and hundreds of mormon parents think that their kids need therapy for the simplest and most natural of things AND the fact that so many mormon bishops were telling those parents that they need to put the child in the therapy are completely ignored? Why is everyone pretending that it is not a systemic problem in the LDS church (and other fundamental churches and cults), when there are dozens of channels filled with heartbreaking testimonies of survivors and victims who all say that various degrees of strict control is a common practice there? Why are we ignoring the existence of hundreds of LDS family channels, where milions of people thrive on watching children being mentally and emotionally abu*ed, punished for everything every single day, where their human needs are called "privileges" and denied, and where the parents AND the church openly promote a lot of very antiquated and inhumane methods under the typical phony façade of a large, happy, religious family? This is absolutely disgusting.

[@babytash3]

Wow sick women i hope now more are coming out this women Jodi and there mother do time . The cult new she was performing this they fired her only till things calmed down when she had to go to court the first time . Then seems they brought her back to continue there mission . Im sorry maybe her husband new what they were doing maybe not . She told him he had to leave over year he had know contact with his kids or wife didnt know what was going on . Well he was still n sessions still with the church i would ran with my kids fastly . Seems it could been like chad ,Lori case thank god this young boy god bless him escaped he needs to know hes a hero he also saved his brothers sisters .also the mother claiming her son was watching porn did few things sure they did not make him do this ? Since every one talking that jodi was having classes with this . Well mother allowed this went along with this . Sickening ,sad ,horrifying for these kids. Them trying to make others beleave in there morman ways torture . I see the difference in the mothers pod casts at first big change . I advise not to be mean that the kids go with the mothers family . They tried with her she disowned her family went to the church .Think its for the best just incase dont w.ant any thinng happening to these inocent children ..my daughter was with ladder day saints church she left it before she past away 2019 . So many bad things . Hope these kids get the life the deserve

[@JalapenoSmoothie]

Its a CULT

[@skkeech]

I hope more people come forward, but so many members are scared of the Mormon Church.

[@annb3376]

While it’s horrific what has happened here. Especially the young man being exposed to horrible sex addiction groups. I must say that we should be just as pissed off that our children are going to public school every day and being exposed to the same stuff. I’m still waiting for parents to actually get just as angry at that as they do in these types of smaller cases. Our children are being trafficked, brainwashed, and exposed to such evils. Why do we not rise up?