Sources: Ethan killed in doorway of Xana's room | Banfield

[@MaryMelin]

I can’t imagine the horror these poor souls went through…may they Rest In Peace.

[@Odin33356]

My friends will celebrate

[@aisle_of_view]

So bored with these cliche responses

[@Odin33356]

@@aisle_of_view ok purge boy

[@Odin33356]

@@aisle_of_view Timothy, Mathew, Daniel and everyone else in the boop had to destroy the shorties man they know just to get ahead in life.

[@OikPoinFive]

@@Odin33356 huh thats

[@WavyFBaby]

03:17 this expert is a beast. He corrected her immediately. She’s not listening to him and just trying to stir up some ratings by trying to sound dramatic.

[@desertrose00]

That shut her up for few moments LoL she is insufferable.

[@briannadaylon90]

she's so quick to respond

[@Gypsy_Soul7]

I love the way JSM basically put Ashleigh in her place & explained what he was referring to. She’s so rude to interrupt her guests the way she does & act like she knows more than these experts 🙄.

[@mairead788-6]

She doesn't listen just hungry for drama..she comes across as so erratic

[@GhettoToaster85]

@@Gypsy_Soul7 i can not STAND Ashleigh! She is a pure rude and disrespectful idiot! She has very little common sense!

[@sngray11]

This case is so incredibly heartbreaking. I really hope that Maddie, Kaylee, Xana, and Ethan receive the justice that they deserve. 🙏🏼

[@scott8462]

I highly believe capital murder will be put in place

[@tams7128]

we all know they wont. what can be worse then being killed at 19 years old? please explain

[@sastrugi4471]

@@tams7128 justice for their killings

[@tams7128]

@@sastrugi4471 how? how can anything be of justice? besides him suffering the same suffering as them? just thinking loud here

[@Odin33356]

My friends will celebrate

[@TheMightyBlackPearl]

The more information that comes out the more heartbreaking it gets. I thought that what had originally come out was horrendous. Now I'm sitting here shaking my head and thinking about the terror these children, young adults were feeling. I remember being that age and still missing my mom and my dad. Of course I was in college, but that didn't mean anything. I still needed my parents. In some ways, a lot of ways, you are still very much a kid at that age. You're just learning about the real world, and not from the bubble of protection from our parents, and some don't even get that. This is horrible. I feel so deeply for all the parents and siblings of the kids. No one deserves this. 😔

[@M95-t7c]

right? like it was awful from day 1 but it was kind of "comforting" to think they were asleep and maybe didn't felt / know what was going on. But now we know they ALL were well aware of everything and were afraid and hurting

[@TheMightyBlackPearl]

@@M95-t7c I know. This isn't the only case either that had me feeling like this. There's so much going on and you look at it and think, has everyone gone mad?!

[@nope_n0pe]

You’ve said it all perfectly. Adults, yes… but so young, so uninformed. I hate this for them and their families.

[@KaraLynnJack]

Amen

[@swiftvixxen]

I feel so bad for the victims and their families

[@bestofbeauty04]

Still so perplexed how there was nothing heard…how do you murder 4 people completely silently?? especially with the last person being awake and putting up a fight? Something about this case is so off…or there’s some key information we’re still not aware of. Hopefully one day it will make sense with more released.

[@jamesfreeman2258]

Ditto

[@maxpunkin3128]

I agree, there is more going on than some incel who just snapped

[@mhenry56941]

I don't believe for a minute she didn't hear people across the hall on the same floor screaming and fighting for there lives.

[@MariaLopez-mi4ol]

He was not alone and someone covered their mouths with something.....pillow or cloth.

[@maxpunkin3128]

@@mhenry56941 right, she opened her door three times and you mean to hear me you didn't hear someone fighting for their lives,she is full of it

[@bathandbuxx]

Is it possible those details weren't released in that way to try & keep them private as kind of like something 'only the killer would know'!? Absolutely heartbreaking to hear those details 💔 I'm wondering if Xana fought back that hard she definitely had to of made SOME sound...some scream...Something...

[@citizendame6329]

Wow really you're just now thinking of that? Of course they did.

[@bathandbuxx]

@Citizen Dame Uh no, I'm not 'Just now' thinking that, hence the !? More of a sarcastic 'Way to to on releasing those details that should of been kept private for a reason' 🙄

[@laracroft9679]

🙊🙉🙈 nothing is ever clear ...???

[@laracroft9679]

@@citizendame6329 Dickhead

[@ariesfire13]

So much for Dylan & Bethany. 🤬🤬

[@ajdarko8531]

This lady is so embarrassing. She always asks an expert a question..and when their narrative doesn't correlate with what she "thinks she knows", she cuts them off immediately, then acts like she knows more than anyone about the subject. So, why are these guests even there?

[@crims0nchin]

Exactly she's rude asf why even ask them questions

[@ajdarko8531]

@crimson chin rude af, yes!.. but I think she mostly just likes to seem like a know-it-all 🙄

[@beastewart2293]

Thankyou to the psychologist for putting Ashley straight!!!

[@nikkis7375]

She always seems like she’s not listening to anything anyone says and is just thinking about what she wants to say.

[@nashira_incognito]

It's quite possible the coroner was saying what needed to be said at that point in time to keep details from getting out. They hadn't yet arrested a suspect, and we also know that law enforcement said initially that the surviving roommates were both sleeping on the first floor when the murders occurred, which we now know wasn't the case. Reading the PCA, it seems to me that Xana was found nearer her bedroom door, Ethan *in* the room. "As I approached the room, I could see a body, later identified as Kernodle's, laying on the floor. Kernodle was deceased with wounds which appeared to have been caused by an edged weapon. Also in the room was a male, later identified as Ethan Chapin..." This reads as Xana being near or in the doorway, Ethan further in.

[@eleanorryan2750]

The surviving roommate's will never be the same. I really hope they are getting the help they need and lots of support and love from family members and friends. Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪

[@pamela174]

So sad. I pray they have the right guy, the families deserve Justice.

[@chefhugo2010]

Your prayer is answered

[@peacethroughstrength172]

So do I and yes they do!

[@ThePathOfLeastResistanc]

@@peacethroughstrength172 how do u know?

[@getsy.]

Oh they for sure (by what I know) have the right guy. They were gone too soon. 💔

[@ThePathOfLeastResistanc]

@@getsy. you know what they tell you, and they tell you what they want you to think you know. For all we know it could have been someone on the local police force and they framed Bryan

[@darkwoods1954]

Heartbreaking to think of the fear they must have gone through. Especially after seeing pictures of them so happy and care free just a few hours before, with no idea that was to be their last night alive.

[@tinat2097]

He tried to save his woman and died in the process. The fear those victims felt that night. I pray they are at peace now

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

"his woman" lol. What's that sound? Oh, the 50's are calling and they want you back.

[@girlanonymous]

@Dante right he was ambushed, he walked out into the hall to see who was there and that’s probably when he got jumped, that’s what it sounds like what happened to me. If he could’ve ran, he would’ve got away, he seemed tall and physically capable. IMO Ethan got ambushed…this isn’t funny by the way.

[@queenkoi]

He appears to have made a good effort. Very horrible situation.

[@DeadEyedTye]

@@dreamingrightnow1174 Wow, so woke and brave. Keep fighting warrior!

[@rayshelldaniels5899]

How could anyone in the house not hear that struggle?

[@janecoe9407]

I WONDER THE SAME THING.

[@Jimmy-rd5ig]

It's a party house . They are used to hearing yelling , screams, fights, loud noises at all times. It's the nature of the beast.

[@spanishflyIam]

@@Jimmy-rd5ig sure it may be the nature of the beast , during a loud rager . But they didn't have a party there that night .

[@TheQueensWish]

Possibly headphones. I wear over the ear style headphones.

[@DanielleStarry]

One of the surviving roommates did hear the struggle. Did y’all miss that? It’s in the PCA

[@kossy2855]

Thank you for not saying the thing's name. The victims are usually forgotten and the case always referred to by the killers name.

[@michaelpower4372]

Who's the killer ?

[@kossy2855]

@@michaelpower4372 Not sure. Who's the killer?

[@KaeBae_]

Even though the evidence is mounting against him, he’s still innocent until proven guilty.

[@kossy2855]

@@KaeBae_ I never said he is guilty but I agree. Also, another reason not to say the suspects name. If he is innocent it won't matter. There has been so much coverage on this case and every report gives us more reasons to find him guilty.

[@samp4050]

The more graphic their final few minutes of life gets, the more horrified I am. Put your self in their shoes, and you see this mad man brutally stabbing your bf in a blood thirsty knife slashes, Imagine her fear knowing he's coming for her too. 😲😩😱😢

[@Ena48145]

That's all I've been able to think about. I've sobbed about Xana while driving home, just imagining her fear and pain

[@whereisyourhumanity7557]

I won't put myself in their place. I had to go through of all that as a youngster, when Ted was running around in our backyards and community parks. Instead, think of how you can secure your home, doors and windows. Think of the bad guy turning away from your home and your room, because you have adequate locks. Think of using your air horn, your pepper spray, your force multiplier. Think of where you can have a secure hidey hole, under your bed against the wall maybe. Between your mattresses. A piece of paneling in your closet, that you can hide behind. Watch Active Self Protection Channel, and learn to be a self-defender. Not be a silly person in an unsecure party house full of silly people, with no security, and male strangers moving through with frequency. That would have been a scary house to live in. So unsecure, so arrogant about safety. And they pay EXTRA to belong to a sorority.

[@scroogemcduckrich9705]

agree

[@RyanSmith-uw2ni]

@@Ena48145 and then the only person that could help Xana when she was crying ignored her. Xana could have lived

[@Acf647]

If your horrified then don’t follow the case

[@bathandbuxx]

These poor kids..😥Sounds like Ethan & Xana put up a hell of a fight 💔

[@georgegil2299]

It's very important to stay protected and go to the range once a month

[@TheActionHank]

@@georgegil2299 omg STFU. You nuts take any opportunity to push guns

[@xx_Joker_xx]

@@georgegil2299 with ya on that! I keep a gun at arms reach in my house and carry when I'm out. I refuse to be a statistic.

[@bathandbuxx]

@George Gil Yes! I grew up on the range, trained with how to properly & safely handle a firearm thanks to my dad! I live in a college town 1 block away from our university & my gun is kept by the side of my bed with a loaded clip ready to go if anyone tries to get into my apartment! They'd be making a big mistake!

[@maxpunkin3128]

I am a female who's husband works 3rd shift ,i am going to invest in a firearm, i do have 2 bitbulls,anyone comes in my house with them around wont make it out, they are very friendly docile dog but I think if someone was putting their hands on me they would defend me to the death

[@laceylee509]

I find it incredibly hard to believe that Dylan didn’t hear Xana & Ethan being viciously attacked literally right outside her bedroom door especially with the two putting up such a fight. She herself stated she was was awoken at 4am and opened her bedroom door 3 times between 4am & 4:25. So that means to me she was listening & on high alert. Impossible to not hear such violent attacks like that!!!

[@cjinpa5713]

She saw a masked person leave her house and never checked on any roommates till 8 hours later?!? Never called the police after locking her door for them to come check? But before that opened her door three different times. 🤦‍♀️ who is frozen in fear for that long instead of trying to act ffs? Literally any action on the phone or in her own home. She had to have seen the bloody knife that he obviously took with him since he left the sheath upstairs in his hand.

[@girlloveshemp642]

She was probably very drunk or maybe on drugs and when you’re in that type of stupor, it’s hard to distinguish reality from fantasy. She was probably trying to make sense of what was going on and probably ended up passing out.

[@violetpisces]

Right? And a camera from another house picked up whimpering, the dog barking and a loud thud but no one in the house heard? I don't believe it. I hope they pull cell phone records and web history for the two girls left uninjured.

[@cjinpa5713]

@@girlloveshemp642 very convenient that the entire twenty minute things were going down though she could open her door three times and think just by locking her interior door that she’d be good to go. No. Self preservation has to come in to play and anyone knows how easily and interior door lock can be picked or kicked in. Not buying that she was coherent enough before that but then got the spins and locked her door and went to sleep. 🙄 I’m really sick of all these excuses for this grown women from the media and now given a pass and repeated media narrative by so many as to why she waited 8 hours.

[@brendakauffman2222]

It wasn't on the same floor. The two girls were on the third floor, Xana and Ethan on the second floor and the two remaining surviving individuals, on the first floor.

[@chanakka2]

I still don't believe the roommates didn't hear a thing

[@joshfallen8069]

Of course DM heard all of it. Something is off with this case. If it quacks like a duck...

[@terrie001]

Agreed. Even you on the first floor, that roommate was never mentioned at all. I mean… wtf? But there is rumor that all of these kids were on drugs or intoxicated and passed out… party too hard. Lol.

[@manager4409]

Dylan's story is another level of bizarre. Can't believe all the people defending her, it's suspicious as hell.

[@joshfallen8069]

@@terrie001 That passed out story only works if DM doesn't say she saw the intruder and his eyebrows. She was awake and heard all of it. No doubt in my mind. You can't just pick and choose what you heard. Walls are thin as f at 4am when its dark and quiet in the house.

[@atheistbewildered2987]

@@joshfallen8069 How do you know it was dark and quiet?

[@KateArete]

Xana was likely "awake and aware"? Yet no screaming or anything to rouse the other roommates. And if Ethan were attacked in the hallway, whether his body was found there or not, there would be blood EVERYWHERE in that hallway. And you're telling me that Dylan and/or Bethany didn't see a drop of blood when they woke up? Or the God awful smell? But yet instead of calling police, they called friends over because they thought Xana or Ethan had "passed out". Come on, this story just keeps getting more ridiculous.

[@april_mae513]

Yes! This also contradicts the probably cause affidavit - the officer describes seeing xana's body as he walks to her room and then sees Ethan's body in the room too. Unless the friends and surviving roommates moved the bodies. Bc it doesn't align with reports about Ethan friend finding his body and calling 911... did he walk over xanas body? Didn't check her body for a pulse? It's just not adding up.

[@tomvan6008]

Ethan could have been in the doorway and not the hallway listening as he heard BK move around and been the person Dylan heard "there is somebody here". As there was no blood in the hallway or living room we know the attack didn't happen in either. BK slashes him in the neck and pushes him back onto the bed. Xana then puts up a fight and dies and her body was found close to the bedroom doorway as a detective who arrived later at the scene said he looked down from the living room and could see Xanas body on the floor. He closes the door to Maddie's and Xana's bedroom and hence the roommates would never know until they opened the door.

[@LourdesGzz]

The description on the affidavit was that Xana was in her bedroom, on the floor and she was the first body seen by the police, and then Ethan's body was described to be inside her room (it doesn't state if he was on the bed or the floor) So then why are you speculating with non-factual information?

[@samma9831]

yea i’m pretty sure it’s been stated ethan was in the bed and it’s only been confirmed xana was awake cause of her phone activity history

[@Sassyglbeauty]

I thought that Ethan was in bed with the cover on because it said that his injuries weren’t visible on scene. I guess they could also not be visible if he’s face down. But, I know 100% it says that Xana is the first person whose seen. So, I don’t buy this version.

[@samma9831]

@@Sassyglbeauty yea i think news outlets are just making stuff up to keep the story going. i heard ethan was in the bed as well. he was most likely asleep and why there was no noises or s screaming. xana probably found ethan and went into shock and started crying and bryan killed her immmediately after seeing her

[@Sassyglbeauty]

@@samma9831 I find it so humorous how they vilified the social media community because of the wild speculation of who did this (before the arrest)…. Yet, there is a literal gag order …. So, now they r trying to create hysteria from any little piece of info that comes out. When, anyone who has investigative knowledge shouldn’t be talking PERIOD. I won’t even read the 2nd part of that article - because it sounds like a horror story. Idk. Just seems gross.

[@shelleybullen6191]

Oh except Ethan was heard screaming on the camera. So maybe not in bed.

[@Flufflesmom]

This is why they said one of them fought. Xana’s fingers nearly cut off from fighting.. Wow.

[@Zahra.y7]

💔💔💔

[@ankalee7341]

All this going on and the roommate didn’t call police ?

[@mikeloper100]

I really want to see the Factual time line and facts about the case. there is so much info that doesnt match up and yes your question is waiting on an answer. By the time he goes to Court maybe we will have factual answers. I would think that after he realizes that the truth is the only bargining chip left , he will trade the Facts for a window seat to the Gallows.

[@ankalee7341]

@@mikeloper100 I want her story , I also want to know why they called friends before calling police , and why call about an “ unconscious “ person when there was blood all over the place

[@roger8927]

Police said the killer drove by the house 3 or so times before parking and going in. The killer had to see all the cars parked out front so he probably had an idea who was in the house.

[@MyBallers]

But if you believe what they say about him you would believe that he stocked them and knew what cars should be there. This isn’t adding up.

[@pippishortstocking7913]

Not if he knew they were in the practice of walking instead of driving to their drinking destinations lol

[@84americanwoman]

You can’t believe anything you hear until it comes out in the coroner’s report, affidavit and discovery at trial.

[@LourdesGzz]

Exactly 💯 👍🏻

[@darlingdeb7010]

No kidding. So much conflicting information

[@bestofbeauty04]

Yeah her ‘source’ contradicts the official police report (affidavit). Hmm, really wonder who to believe…

[@joshinatorsquashinhaters4210]

Truly sad and my heart goes out to the families. I don’t think this will ever make sense to me, no matter the details that emerge. I hope justice is served.

[@patienceacheampong9542]

Oh my goodness. My heart bleeds for these poor kids. I wonder the pain they might have gone through. May they R.I.P

[@wholeshebang1]

A lot, but for a short period of time, as their wounds were described by the coroner as *lethal,* and they would've died rather quickly.

[@patienceacheampong9542]

@@wholeshebang1 Hmmmm

[@goose33]

Pun intended?

[@ksc743]

I've heard that being stabbed is like being punched. Your mind cannot comprehend what has happened; adrenaline kicks in and protects you from feeling anything for a certain amount of time. If you pass away quickly you likely may have been aware of psychological terror, but physically you wouldn't have felt the pain. If you survived, once the adrenaline and shock has worn off, the pain would be acute.

[@shadowshow701]

This is contrary to the PCA. Also if Xana put up ‘a heck of a fight’ there is no way Dylan didn’t hear the whole thing. She certainly has some explaining to do. Same with Bethany. I live in a wooden house and people just walking upstairs is noisy much less someone fighting for their life. The only explanation I can think of at this point would be that the survivors were drugged

[@elaineg60]

Common sense: with what we know now; the coroner and police were purposely being vague, general and outright misleading purposely to the media. It wasn’t long after the brutal incident (trying not to type words that would get this deleted); that they had BK in their sight and I don’t know of any laws that say the coroner or investigators are required to give all accurate details to media. If they knew about him, his background, his likely knowledge of procedures-keep in mind that survey he did; don’t you think it makes more sense that they’d put things out to throw him off?

[@debrabaird633]

Isn’t there a ban on all information? It’s a pretty large spanning ban of any speculation or reporting How and why are you still reporting?

[@ShaylaShar]

I hope all the parents already knew all this. And didn't find all this out on the news. I pray the source told them first

[@anunnakimenagerie]

Hard to believe how clueless the roommate was about what was happening all around her

[@anomaliesandtherealdeal]

she had to have heard screams...impossible to picture them being killed and not yelling for help or pleading for their lives. seems off to me. will we ever know? who knows?

[@rachf9695]

The sounds she reported were corroborated by a camera in or near the house she heard whimpering and a loud thud! And then She thought she heard the roommate playing with the dog. And then "sick face killer say don't worry, I'm going to help you" though I don't think that part was caught on the camera. It seems unbelievable but when you live in a house and your used to a lot of loud sounds and your tired and possibly intoxicated....I don't know I don't think this happened the way we All imagine and this sicko got lucky that it wasn't louder though that may have saved the other 2 from dying as well so I hate to think otherwise!

[@mikebarrios3269]

Hmmmm 🤔 are we still not allowed to be suspicious about the roommate, or is that still " victim blaming"? There's no way in hell if it happened that way did the roommate not know something crazy out of the norm was happening and than she still came out of her room see a stranger walking around in her house?! than go back in her room to scared to call 911?!?! Come on. Come on! COME ON!!!! I don't know, man, this whole case is so dam bizarre!! There's no way she wouldn't call 911. No way, Nope, huah, can't be true!!

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

She ain’t clueless. I’ve said from the beginning, she is involved or knows more. Smfh

[@ang3432]

@@mikebarrios3269 it's called "survivor blaming"

[@415sf305]

After learning more about this crazy story It’s really hard to believe that none of the 2 surviving roommates had no clue about what was going on during the murders …

[@CaraT1978]

Trauma response and/or being “wasted” after a night of parting is a tricky minx

[@kaylaread8048]

If Ethan was lying on the ground and the door was open … she lied OR Police didn’t us tell the truth. Why?

[@dawnywarthog6642]

@@kaylaread8048 I'd sue your ass for libel defamation so fast your head spinning would be an understatement. Screw you for publishing unfounded baseless claims! Shame on you!!!

[@lauravastag8587]

It’s just too weird.

[@TJ-so9xo]

because you are projecting your benefit of hindsight into the situation. How did DM know what was going ? So far we have no evidence that suggests she KNEW what happened as it happened.

[@melissamartinez913]

This coroner shouldn’t even have said anything about these murders! Like she is the most unprofessional person I’ve heard of! And Joe Scott knows what he’s talking about, so maybe listen to what he says instead of trying to tell him differently! This is such a horrific case and I’m just so sad for these parents to have to listen to this day in & out about their children!

[@salvanaihtisham1803]

If someone snores in the next room, even that can be heard in these old wooden homes. Two people struggling for thier life is not a silent affair. It is very mind boggling.

[@bbloodyangel1]

@Meghan M. struggle and dying moans sound very different from usual noise, you'd know if you heard. your comment is not as clever as you think it is.

[@Toltecgrl]

I feel so bad these kids went through this. There had to be yelling and screaming going on. I always think of when Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were murdered and neighbors heard yelling and arguing. There had to be loud yelling, screaming and crying going on, I doubt any of them went in silence. Unless they were asleep. And Dylan said she heard Kaylee awake.

[@terrie001]

I was sleeping deep around 2am and my mom felt and held onto a TV table in her room, made a loud noise from the fall (not even screaming from her) - and that woke me up and I ran to the door and get to her room (right next to mine) within like 6 seconds. I understand that their rooms are not next to each other, but man… you get 4 ppl murdered in the house and you can sleep through all that is hard to believe…

[@Toltecgrl]

@@terrie001 I agree!!! It’s baffling to me.

[@trishna_6815]

@@terrie001 interesting that according to the affidavit the neighbour's security camera recorded sounds of muffled voices, a dog whimpering, and a thud. no mention of screams, yells, cries.

[@ukmedicfrcs]

Nicole wasn't screaming when she was murdered. Her throat was slit so deep she was almost decapitated. If these kids were killed the same way, there wouldn't have been much noise.

[@Toltecgrl]

@@trishna_6815 yes! I forgot about that. You’re right.

[@bowtoyoursensei554]

The coronor did NOT say there were "only" stab wounds.. She said the nature of the injuries were too severe to be considered as just stab wounds. I don't see what difference that makes anyway. Four innocent young people were killed brutally and mercilessly in an act of unfathomable evil. Period.

[@chandler2927]

Sweet babies 💔😰😰I’m so sorry you all had to endure this. Xana-you’re a brave fighter, honey! RIP

[@citizendame6329]

They weren't babies they were adults.

[@lachicadehumo1366]

@@citizendame6329 Xana, Kaylee, Madison and Ethan will always be their parents’ babies! May they rest in peace

[@italiawhaley9057]

@@citizendame6329 tonto !

[@citizendame6329]

@@lachicadehumo1366 but they aren't our babies! May these adults rip!

[@jamesfreeman2258]

Chandler meant "babies" as a tender way of looking at them , and deeply empathizing with what they went through.

[@desertrose00]

How are 4 people murdered so brutally and no one hears anything??!!!!

[@angelbunny4u]

I believe the girls on the top floor were killed in the dark possibly sleeping and frozen in fear/all happened so fast or first stabs were to the throat/lungs so they couldn’t make noise then DM woke up in a sleepy state to hearing the whimpering/male voice etc. But just sort of dismissed it.

[@jameswelsh5425]

if xana was alive and fought back like that then how did dylan not here that…

[@atheistbewildered2987]

How do you know she didn’t hear it?

[@camillerodriguez5161]

@@atheistbewildered2987 beat me to it. I think it would make sense that she did hear it, cracked her door open but didn’t walk out of her room and immediately went into freeze state. Hence why no phone call was made. In so many other cases, a victim will go into shock for hours, and are too scared to even move in case the perp is still in the house. So many questions and I hope in a few months to a year we will gain more understanding of what these kids went through.

[@pyresflood]

Probably barred out

[@haydotherapper5401]

I think Dylan is the killer

[@anomaliesandtherealdeal]

probably fingernail scratches on Brian's arm from that defense,,,, she fought for her life and I bet they find DNA under the fingernails. last act of brilliance

[@jenhodge9018]

I couldn’t believe how quickly he did all this!! 4 beautiful young lives! RIP 😢

[@Pllm30]

I know. A killing frenzy is all I can say.

[@TribalThief]

Wasn't quick, that's the point

[@anakarenina9403]

Aprox. 8 minutes….It was incredibly fast and weird. How……?

[@alygarden7879]

HE? Did a JURY already give a GUILTY verdict? Didn't think so.

[@Pllm30]

@@anakarenina9403 It took longer than that. The timeline is all wrong. But keep in mind, once you slash a person's neck, they can no longer scream, so they are out for the count, they're dead, and your job is done.

[@nicoletrandel2966]

The more I hear about this case the creepier it gets. I cannot imagine what those poor kids went through that night. They must have had extreme terror and fear. This evil person who I will not even call by name because he does not deserve that is a complete psychopath!!!

[@Acf647]

Ok. Yea you sound like an idiot. Go back to work and pay your taxes

[@Fat12219]

He sabb 😢

[@maurad5378]

I don’t think they were collateral damage. The more we actually know the truth, the more sickening it will be. My heart breaks for these young people.

[@girlanonymous]

I agree. I think the murderer knew that either the girls would be in the house or the girls plus Ethan would be there and he was prepared for either scenario. So scary and sad.

[@martindavis9930]

How I wish Ethan was armed, able and willing to use it.

[@mirrrstery]

wouldnt of changed anything, 2 of them would of died anyways.

[@atheistbewildered2987]

If he simply shut and locked the door and called 911, he and his GF would be alive

[@suzannek3493]

@@atheistbewildered2987 I am afraid it all happened so fast and i believe its reasonable to assume Ethan may have been enebriated

[@lstruggy]

Everyone was at least drunk and stoned there that night/morning

[@randyblum5738]

@@atheistbewildered2987 some outside doors are solid wood or reinforced. Most inside doors are maybe 1/4 inch thick with one by one pieces of wood around the outside edges with maybe one or two other braces down to the center somewhere. One point holding the door shut and maybe 3/4 inch round sticking in the door frame usually less than half an inch. Oh well I am 5 ft 9 in and weigh almost 200 lb I can kick in almost any outside door with not much effort. Unless it's braced where the locks are. Basically push open locked interior doors destroying the door itself. They are made for honest people if they have locks on them in the house. Or somebody is aware enough to put a solid door and possibly another bolt or two on it that help hold somebody out in an emergency situation. Ethan went out because he heard commotion going on and turned around and basically came almost face-to-face with the perpetrator and ran back in and managed to lock the door somebody pursuing him with his adrenaline flowing would walk right through that door. I've got five daughters ranging from 13 up to 35. Each one of them how to used firearms and have bought most of them one. But I'm not even sure if that would save somebody in that situation I always tell them if somebody's trying to get in the house to shoot through the door. Don't wait till they get in to make you a victim. This case Haunts me I hope to God they get everyone involved and put each one of them to death.

[@norma-lynnebennett369]

It is hard to believe that Xana wouldn't have screamed or shouted out seeing Ethan being slashed?

[@sisclark8088]

My guess is kohlberger stabbed xana once then finished off Ethan then returned to finish off xana

[@sisclark8088]

This would then make sense because Dylan heard whimpering and heard a male say it's ok I'm gonna help you

[@APimpNamedSlickBak]

All this commotion and the roommates heard nothing? Something is off here

[@ADRIENNETV]

Majorly off.. 💯

[@joralemonvirgincreche]

No one has said they heard nothing. DM heard crying, presumably Xana's, and the attacker saying something like "I'm here to help you."

[@APimpNamedSlickBak]

@@joralemonvirgincreche Im going with the latter

[@forjo7307]

I am constantly struck by the fact that NO ONE discusses the dog being taken out for the last time that late night/early morning to pee/poo. Even drunk, these young people know Murphy needs to go out, right. Was Kohberger sitting out there? Which side of the house was the usual spot dog was let out to? This information seems important in regards to someone watching the house.

[@Harmonator94]

Kohbergers car was seen parking like 2 min before he entered the house

[@accesstotheredcarpet]

The dog already had gone out for walk then back into the house where he stayed in Kaylee’s room on her bed and Kaylee’s was in Maddie’s bedroom sharing the food Maddie ordered from grub truck. That’s why the dog was spared. We will know more when the trial starts in June

[@pbv61]

I don't know if the blood on outside wall as ever confirmed as blood. I have always doubted it. Never saw pictures of anyone taking samples. From my experience with blood, too, blood would have dried much darker (nearly black) once dried and exposed to light.

[@maxpunkin3128]

If he were watching the house, the two surviving roommates wouldn't be here to tell the tale,or not tell the tale, there's more to this story than some incel who just snapped

[@MariaLopez-mi4ol]

MM and KM seen guys outside before they even entered. There is so much that they are not telling BUT THE 2 GOOD PHYSIC READERS TELL ALL AND IT IS TO THE T.

[@cocoxtina8366]

This is what men naturally do when they need to defend their girlfriend or the house! It was his instinct to protect Xana or the other women since he was the only man in that house. Ethan probably did whatever he could to stop the perpetrator & the sad part was he was at the wrong place at the wrong time! 😰💔

[@atheistbewildered2987]

What about shutting the door? He might have attracted the perp to their presence

[@cocoxtina8366]

@@atheistbewildered2987 We still don't know exactly what happened at that house! What if Ethan heard something & only looked outside the door to see what's going on? So easy for you to say to just lock the door but what if this happens to you?! What if the intruder/perpetrator is in your home & goes towards your room? Are u just going to hide under the bed hoping that nothing happens to you or will you try to defend yourself or your home if they try to attack you?

[@dianeturner9060]

@@atheistbewildered2987 I get the feeling this all happened in seconds. If Xana said someone is here as she was on tik Tok. Woke Ethan and he went to peek.. that would be seconds to Ethan being attacked. Drunk, groggy, not expecting this versus a planned killer sober, armed and ready. I personally think Ethan was found in the bed. Whether a struggle occurred and he landed there is possible but he ended up in the bed as the PCA said as well as the bloody mattress we saw leave the house.

[@teliabrewerreagh1104]

I don’t know why but since the beginning of this horrible tragedy, I’ve said, “It’s going to be found that Ethan was/forever is a hero.” There truly is *something* unique/special about Ethan’s smile ( perfect name for the tulips honoring his smile). You can see the light and kindness inside him externally- in his smile and his eyes. His entire countenance was bright. He was a true young man- he instinctively felt the responsibility to get up and protect a home full of young women. Sadly, it was another young man that preyed on that home because it was full of young women. We have a hero and a real villain in this true story. And both will forever be remembered as such.

[@sue-annbray6250]

And nobody heard that? Very strange

[@moa8121]

If Xana fought BCK in the doorway of her bedroom then there’s got to be more than enough evidence for the prosecution team!

[@anomaliesandtherealdeal]

that is why brian had fingernail scratches on his right forearm when he was pulled over in Indiana, I bet

[@moa8121]

@@anomaliesandtherealdeal sounds logical to me.

[@Lonesome__Dove]

Sounds like more arrests should be coming. These ppl didn't die silently.

[@senorgato70]

Man, this is so sad. These beautiful people did not deserve to die. Sounds like Ethan was leaving his room because of the noise upstairs, so BK attacked him, then Xana who was clearly awake because she was still eating and going thru her phone. I am still shocked that there was no screaming or yelling, maybe because of the sheer shock of what was happening or maybe being still drunk if they had imbibed a lot that night. I pray their souls are at peace and the guilty party is punished appropriately.

[@sedg03]

Well... these 4(7) did something to attract some real bad into their lives. And the talk of drugs here there n everywhere... of ONLY FRIENDS $ for sex.... they were living life full out in the fast lane. And it caught up to them.

[@grcamm2992]

the roomate has sais she heard xana crying in her room which made her check the hallway

[@sedg03]

@@grcamm2992 I'm not so sure we can count on everything the roomie said, to be true..;( I doubt her. If so, its purty cringe-worthy to hear... Those details. So deeply touching...

[@Lucienne-zz1sw]

The nearby house confirmed there was the noise of people and the dog barking, so it isn't the case that there was no noise.

[@sedg03]

@@Lucienne-zz1sw that's confusing, isnt it? Noise? No noise?

[@EuroTrash1]

This other roommate who opened her door 3 times has to be the most selfish person on the planet. No girls I knew in school would just do nothing, they would have run to the other rooms as soon as he left but nope

[@wqv5423ln]

Judge not that you be not judged!

[@flyerb5041]

Why is this information coming out? Is this going to hurt the case?

[@optimisticcosmic]

Such a terrible way to go. They didn’t deserve that.

[@gjh9299]

Yeah, I think it's one of the worst ways. Especially if they were awake.

[@jajanesaddictions]

Well, if the roommate saw the killer walk down the hallway and go out the sliding glass door, which is on the second floor, and Xana and Ethan were on the second floor, it only makes sense that they were killed last.

[@hearanecho]

Which only makes SENSE because of the time Zana was on tik tok

[@ClaudiaGutierrez-um7ub]

Funny how these two guest Describe a horrific killing with struggles that would entail a lot of gut wrenching screams…and yet no one addresses the fact that DM did not hear the screams for help being on the same floor.

[@Goodgrief478]

IF this is true, you’d think that poor girl would be screaming putting up a fight and then the fingers…omg that is hard to hear. So sad

[@Goodgrief478]

@Hen Maid's Tale Ethan had the throat slash right?

[@sisclark8088]

I think kholberger stabbed xana once to silence her then finished off Ethan then came to finish off Xana .This is consistent with Dylan hearing whimpering and male voice saying it ok I'm gonna help you.Xana was whimpering bc he had stabbed her once already

[@gaylemaher8379]

Banfield should STOP talking about what the coroner said the day of the murder. She’s lucky the coroner told her ANYTHING! Banfield is acting as if the coroner purposely lied to her. All of the victims in this horrific crime died from wounds caused by a large knife/knives.

[@wailhi]

I hope the victims will get their justice. This case have been so confusing and even authorities were not really certain of what might have really happened. Media should at least stop reporting anything that might come just for the sake of bringing up something for the general population. It's heart breaking to hear that almost every day there's different versions of the events that occured that night.

[@Acf647]

Ok then don’t follow the case since it’s heartbreaking for you 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@citrine65]

Xana was awake and struggled, cried maybe screamed and the two roommates spared heard nothing?

[@joshfallen8069]

DM heard it all, no doubt in my mind.

[@Zahra.y7]

@@joshfallen8069 i wear my air-pod most of the time, she might had it on

[@Orangesky3818]

Stop. Leave her alone

[@dejectedsmilez]

And called a bunch of sorority kids over before the police a bunch of 🤡 sad that's what will run this country in the future

[@scottythetrex5197]

I still can't get over the fact that Kohberger went into a house with a driveway full of cars and started killing people. He had to be on something, or he didn't care if he got caught. The risk was so insanely great it's just crazy he entered the house like that.

[@georgegil2299]

Fentynal

[@guavaB52]

My thinking is that he waited til 4am and being a Sunday night, knew there wasn't a party going on. I think he only intended to kill Maddy upstairs and then sneak out, but when coming downstairs, encountered Ethan or Xana and then decided to kill them.

[@Pllm30]

Maybe he was on drugs.

[@cjinpa5713]

@@georgegil2299 you don’t know much about drugs do you? 🙄

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

Personally I think someone in the house told him the coast was clear. An accomplice or , the giant elephant in the room of the person who allegedly saw him but didn’t call 911 for 8 hours

[@rachelshoey7029]

This makes it weirder with the surviving roommate....

[@danahughes7026]

there must have been a lot of noise screaming/ shouting coming from the victims. i find it hard to believe nobody heard anything with this info.

[@bbaciliere]

Of course! You don’t even need to confirm this for us to know! If DM heard a male voice saying: it’s okay, I’ll help you; and Xana crying, it’s definitely the killer saying to Xana: “don’t cry over your boyfriend, I’ll help you to be with him by killing you too” Perverse, sick, but after all the crimes we’ve been exposed to, is easy to put 1+1 together!

[@rachelrachel3146]

Still can’t fathom that the “suspect “ was able to commit quadruple murder in matter of minutes on two separate floors including a victim as big as him if not more. Too many unknowns and twists as well as an unsecured crime scene for a very long time.

[@pyresflood]

Oh there was more then one person involved

[@haydotherapper5401]

@Retired Arthropod I am 6foot 2 165 pounds and i don’t know anyone that could physically over power 4. Young adults in under 15 min and not have knife wound or a big bruise from the strongle under the current evidence I think Brian is innocent or at very least there more than enough to prove reasonable doubt I think Dylan is the killer

[@desertrose00]

@Retired Arthropod clearly you have no idea about how big Ethan was.

[@haydotherapper5401]

@@dianegreyson8787 as a lawyer based on what been reported I am 85 percent sure I could beat this case for Mr kolberger

[@rachelrachel3146]

@Retired Arthropod I don’t buy it it still doesn’t constitute a 1st time adrenaline filled quadruple murder like this something doesn’t smell Right in Denmark

[@chrisellis4838]

We got a full fight and the roommate still lies acting like she didn’t think anything had happened after a fight like that and seeing a stranger in a mask. That roommate is involved. Why can’t ppl see that

[@animalliberationCLBB]

Never ever couldnt the OTHER roommates NOT hearing this horrific act!! The Neighbour did!! So sad😢

[@ADRIENNETV]

Absolutely 💯

[@itsjustme...whitney6972]

Lies. Straight up. Look into Moscow pd holy crap !! There are specific details if wellness call but white Dr. But this is 5 pm then nearly ten min later someone asking where dig is at the shelter. How would anyone kw well Maddie was gonna tell DM to stop dealing. Swear. So bidycam shows well we were tohs a nutty story. But it was a party home so why the hell a cop ...who transportrd Murphy. This is crazy. When did they get Access!!?! All tell u ...way later then we may think. Bk was in drugs. So where they. It pinged off tower. Nope I'm confused cuz Kaylee wasn't supp to get there but it was

[@lornaduwn]

I knew from the very beginning that either Ethan or Xana had to be on the floor. There had to be quite a bit of blood on the floor to run down the outside of the house. If they were in bed, the mattress would have absorbed most of the blood and there would not have been enough blood on the floor to travel down the walls to the outside.

[@italiawhaley9057]

lornaduwn splashed up in the ceiling

[@Pllm30]

Police said Xana was on the floor when the affidavit first came out weeks ago.

[@michelekellum6923]

I think the Coroner was told by LE to elaborate. To give as few details as possible. I also watched your interview with her, and when you asked about the throats being slashed she did not deny it or say yes to it! She completely eluded and went on to something else. My question is … if either one of them was lying on the floor visible before going into the bedroom itself how could DM have not seen that?

[@finestkindmedicinal5967]

There are only 4 states in the union that require coroners to be physicians - only 16 with laws requiring training - idaho isnt listed as either of those - the coroner could simply be an unprofessional.

[@angelbunny4u]

I don’t want to sound rude because I do understand that unless we were in the situation ourselves we can’t assume we would know exactly how we would act but if DM actually saw the killer leaving out the back door, and she locked herself in her room, I just don’t understand why it would take so many hours to call 911. I guess it’s possible she thought something weird was going on but if she saw a masked person leaving in the dark and got scared enough to lock herself in her room, I don’t get what she would be doing for so many hours if this was “shock”…. Did she just go to sleep?? I understand not wanting to go observe the house and an intruder not necessarily being what comes to mind first let alone a murderer, but I still feel like that is an extremely contradicting behavior to have this level of fear but not call 911.

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

If it smells like bullshit, it’s probably bullshit. Just sayin

[@Maripossa909]

You speak my mind. It is normal to be such in fear when you just wanna stay in the room. But the fact you saw a masked man and not calling 911, and proceed to go to bed doesn’t make any sense. Our natural response would call the police right away

[@unchargedpickles6372]

I figured w Xana and Ethan that he'd attacked Ethan first. I can't imagine he'd attack the female first in front of the male and fight them both off simultaneously. Figured the males fought it out and she saw it all, was crying, the killer did the creepy "I'll help you" viewing it as a mercy in his twisted killer mind. Sickening.

[@adelitabriano4423]

Ethan was murdered doesn't matter the spot!! Evil took his life along with the girls.

[@wb7606]

If xana fought back then how did no one hear her? It's still so confusing.

[@jslay2222]

So how did the roommate not see anything? If he was in the doorway..

[@debralwoods]

Coroner did not actually say they were all stab wounds. She was a little vague. You asked if they were slashed or stabbed, and she said, stab wounds with a weapon that big made it hard to identify the type of wound - she never said no slashes, just commented on the stab wounds. Also about them being in the beds - some where, some weren't - so saying yes was true, but didn't mean they all were, besides, Ethan didn't have a bed in that house. Question - did Ethan have his own car?

[@TheNickhammond]

Ethan and Xana walked there. They didn’t need to take his car even if he had one.

[@marissaramirez1917]

Ethan was just staying the night with xana I grew up with him and yes he had his own car but they walked because they went to a party at his fraternity house where he lived.

[@debralwoods]

@@marissaramirez1917 Thanks, I wondered because if his car was there it would have been obvious he was there, but if not, it could have been a surprise that he was there.

[@santafilipina9020]

Drives me bananas when she interrupts the experts.

[@ZootZinBootZ]

Of course she was awake she just got her food delivery

[@angelbunny4u]

Yep and Ethan could have potentially went into the kitchen to grab them forks or plates or something during the same time BK was on the same floor

[@slyphwing]

It’s crazy that nobody heard screaming.

[@gb3376]

I was wondering about the blood leak outside of Xana’s room. When you look at the floor plan, inside that wall is a closet. That amount of blood won’t reach there if they were killed in their bed. Now it makes sense. They or at least one of them fought for their lives😢

[@giovonaralphs8036]

What blood leak?

[@kari793]

@@giovonaralphs8036 there was blood seeping through the outside walls of the home 😢

[@MariaLopez-mi4ol]

The front of his upper legs were sliced horizontally all the way across and he could not walk and the sephenous artery in his left leg is how he bled out and it was not in 9 min. Kaylee was slit open from sternum to pubic and the other had slit throats.....and no he was not alone....there will be more arrests later.

[@ukmedicfrcs]

@@kari793 Those photos are fake.

[@sharonbates516]

@@MariaLopez-mi4ol How do you know he was not alone and they'll be other arrests?

[@darrellmay4502]

Only the killer knows where he was killed, that is why they didn't want to tell the public!

[@AisforAtheist]

Banfield is awful. Shouldn't have interviewed xana's mom in such a vulnerable state. No more Banfield. No more newsnation.

[@doreenflynn]

They shouldn’t be broadcasting this information and show respect for the victims and their loved ones.

[@brittanylewis677]

That is so heartbreaking . This whole story is heart breaking 💔 prayers for Xana and all the victims

[@ITcanB]

The door dash came at 4:00 am ,so they were both awake most likely.

[@shaunamerbouhi8053]

If two girls were killed first wouldn't Ethan and the other girl have the blood of the two girls on them.. If he used just one knofe

[@84americanwoman]

Yes

[@taramiller3236]

There was so much blood, it would take a long time to figure out whose DNA was where.

[@PerAllwin1963]

The danger of over-analyzing is that the victims won’t get the swift justice they deserve from evil Kohberger.

[@spiderswebb5724]

I don't like being cut off at the end of each Barnfields .

[@babsmageezie3932]

From the beginning Ive wondered what went on right before they called 911..did both of them just happen to get up at the same time or did one go and get the other? Did DM come out of her bedroom and see blood or a blood trail right near Zana’s bedroom or did Bethany come out of her bedroom first and come upstairs and did she look toward Zana’s room? LE said you could see Zana on the floor as you approach the bedroom. Did either one of them go upstairs to Maddie and Kaylee’s room? The dog didnt bark like crazy to be let out the whole 8 hrs? So many more questions!!!

[@tomvan6008]

The report I heard was there was a phone call that Xana didn't show up for work and DM and Bethany went to check and found them. Most likely the doors to Maddie and Xana's room were closed. There wasn't any blood in the hallway or living room. Ethan was on the bed and Xana was on the floor as a detective said he could see Xana on the floor from the living room looking toward the bedroom. Dylan or Bethany would have saw them when they awaked so the idea the doors were closed makes sense.

[@thejackjackgirl]

Ashley - you are reading too much into the coroners comments... Im a physician.. they are very non committal. She was answering your questions with as little information as possible. She was dodging your questions. She was talking to the media and it was odd that she was interviewed at all.

[@marianevick4992]

Sorry for the family's loss Ethan

[@jillijane9793]

What difference does it make if they were slashed or stabbed? She gets on my nerves

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

Psychological profile most likely

[@tom56ism]

It's always more horrible as the details come out. Unless the knife penetrates the heart, you are not going to immediately collapse. Even a mortal wound to a major artery in the chest area will still take a few minutes for you to bleed out. They are not giving an exact number of wounds they received or where all the wounds were on the body, but it's safe to assume this monster kept stabbing them until they stopped moving.

[@BelaRube]

He might have gone straight for their throats.

[@DebbieTomkoSUNSHINE]

I've been stabbed before, and immediately after a deep stab wound, you can't fight back, etc. And the second wound you don't even feel....It was that way with me....I don't think the victims sufferred....

[@arizonadreaming4183]

​@@DebbieTomkoSUNSHINE so sorry, glad your okay

[@Fat12219]

That is so , so mess up 😢 getting knife 🔪 😳 like that 😢 poor young people 😢 ❤❤

[@dutch3328]

Like a man stumbled out trying to protect. Bless them all

[@rachelsgibson8318]

The roommate who locked herself in her bedroom and didn't call 911 for hours she will get her karma

[@erikabulsara538]

It is impossible to understand why everybody in the house did not react to the first screams. Apparently they were so wild and out of control that noise did not matter to them. Also there is no excuse for the roommates to have not called the police right away. Neither could have been unconscious for that long.

[@bryancruz710]

this makes the 8-hrs 911 unconscious call really fishy. hope we get more theory on that more than the "froze in fear " explanation

[@OasisJK22]

How many more times are these stories going to change before this guy goes to trial. Sounds like his defense is going to have a field day with these discrepencies.