Conservative judges say they won’t hire Columbia graduates | Dan Abrams Live

A group of right-leaning federal judges sent a letter to the president and law dean of Columbia University saying they won’t hire graduates of their school after the unrest that has taken over campus the last few weeks of the academic year. “As judges who hire law clerks every year to serve in the federal judiciary, we have lost confidence in Columbia as an institution of higher education,” said the 13 conservative judges.
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[@Tati8796]

So called "Ivy league " has been losing it's appeal for decades. The employers have been slowly backing away from their graduates.

[@Tati8796]

@1020donny you should do research instead of saying these banalitiess. As for me, I can see it on an example of my own engineering company: 15 years ago lvy League graduate was a must if you wanted to apply for a position. Now? It's not even an advantage. It's common knowledge that being in the Ivy League is more about making connections than getting educated

[@bluecoffee8414]

​@1020donny I'm a lawyer who worked in one of the big global firms (Coudert Brothers). Large law firms may not be the best example because they tend to be very conservative - or behind the times. But I'd say in the last few years ivy league has SLOWLY been losing its caché in law firms. For a variety of reasons. But undeniably one of the reasons is that all of this goofing around with admissions, grades and standards is starting to make employers see ivy graduates as a less 'reliable product' than before. However, if you are a white male applying for large law firms today, it may be more important than ever to be ivy league. My friend worked for Skadden an absolutely legendary firm in the M&A field. This year he applied to Linklaters and they told him to his face "You are a middle aged white male and in the current environment it is difficult to undertake a hire with your profile." I know this sounds like some fearmongering BS story by an anti-DEI nut but I promise this is dead real. He is a close friend for 20 years, not a liar and didn't even need the job as he is doing well. But things have gotten to the point where a major employer can tell you to your face "Sorry but you are white and that's a problem."

[@Tolpuddle581]

@@Tati8796 Correct! Elite private schools and colleges have always been about networking, education is a distant second.

[@berndhoffmann7703]

ivy league? rather a plank 🥳 In old trains the third class was called the wooden class as it was very, very basic. To my understanding the so-called ivy league is not able to filter out truthful information from all the propaganda, that is so important for every future job, hard to learn that now at this age if one did not grow up building the filter for good and bad information. In every business the success is dependable on that skill. Imagine a board meeting when no one is able to filter out bad information, that company will not exist for longer.

[@BillieJean-ye6do]

​@@bluecoffee8414Well if this story is actually true, then he should sue them for discrimination!! I have worked at several Law Firms. I was treated very well. But times were different back then. Everything right now, is just really bad for most people. I feel bad for your friend.

[@suhashasellayah5159]

I would never have any one from Columbia if I was running any business or organization

[@1020donny]

But you're not, you most likely are not even someone who regularly uses legal services no less legal teams. I do and we don't usually use Ivy League grads as they usually work for management side firms and will continue to and we represent blue collar workers.

[@AquaNikki]

Sadly, my daughter attended Columbia. But she is jewish and does not support what's happening currently. I do understand the inclination though and some level of cancelation has to happen.

[@wheelz114]

@@1020donnyhow noble. So you'd hire non-Ivies who openly support a Pro-Terrorism organization like Hamas?

[@Eddycurrent1]

Life is not fair. Choose your school wisely.

[@avi8terrfwg317]

She didn't send the police in right out the outset. She waited too long.

[@robertmcgowan4149]

Name them shame them & make them unemployable Dan!

[@dtruque]

Oh no, they can't work in Texas. Also add them to a banned list in the fucking moon... Just as relevant to Columbia grads!

[@karentaylor3053]

The same Palestinians were burning US flags 🇺🇸 in Gaza after 9/11 and celebrating !!!

[@DiscoMaiden]

Ummm, I think you need to take a look at what year 9/11 happened and the average age of Palestinians. I highly doubt babies and toddlers were burning American flags that day. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@concerned4160]

I say, Yay!! How can the judges know who participated since they all hide their faces?!

[@zorkwork3841]

If they apply for a job..they will find our tby doing a backround check..pretty easy

[@DieFlabbergast]

So graduates who not only did NOT participate but actually OPPOSED the protests -- INCLUDING JEWISH STUDENTS -- will be discriminated against! This is America?

[@cantunderstandfoolishpeeps2036]

⁠@@zorkwork3841they still won’t know if they were participating because of the mask! Plain and simple.

[@avi8terrfwg317]

They have every right not to hire from Columbia. They've seen what these students have been taught. The Ivies are not prestigious anymore.

[@heidiw8406]

The problem is this is what they are being taught in the majority of universities.

[@AquaNikki]

Not just Columbia. Not even close..

[@BillieJean-ye6do]

Good for these Federal Judges. I am so proud of them for standing up for MORALS AND ETHICS. SOMETHING NO ONE AT COLUMBIA SEEMS TO HAVE.

[@lucybell1730]

Good decision 👏 👌 👍

[@neal.karn-jones]

I applaud these judges. Thank you!

[@cano21]

They're acting like self righteousness babies. No one wants to hire a baby. They want adults.

[@BillieJean-ye6do]

Exactly 💯 I literally can't even watch the Interviews with these STUDENT PROTESTERS because it literally makes me sick and disgusted.

[@lucybell1730]

Hope all top government office and other companies should follow this new rules..👏👏👏

[@davidtrottier7066]

Not to shock you or anything but not everyone from Columbia University participated in the protests.

[@saleemahwinters6427]

For protesting

[@20Manny]

Thank God for having smart judges This how it should be. The point is the university allowed it to happen And for people who think otherwise The same way you have a right the judges also have a right and obligation to do the right things which they do. God bless the USA 🇺🇸🦅 God bless Israel 🇮🇱🕊

[@mananimal3644]

What about the law graduates that have nothing to do with the protests, including the Jewish students? Why should they be punished?

[@Tolpuddle581]

There are no gods only inside your head.

[@daysrcdays]

You think colleges have ever been in control of AMERICAN STUDENTS?

[@BillieJean-ye6do]

​@@mananimal3644THEY shouldn't punish the Jewish Students. They should be hired if they are qualified.

[@RS-ox1vd]

Actions have consequences. The university has become what it is, because of professors and administrators.

[@marid1580]

Good to hear

[@daysrcdays]

REALLY? Did they mention how students should react to over 20,000 dead women and children civilians?

[@grammygirlforgod9326]

Wow, I don’t feel like this is an overreaction in the least!! These judges are making their opinions known in a way that cannot be misinterpreted, taking a necessary stance because the president of Columbia University refused to. Their message is loud and clear - actions, or lack thereof, have tangible consequences in the real world that we live in. Indeed, it is a wake up call to students and parents, one Columbia would do well to heed. I applaud each and every federal judge for using their power and influence to change the trajectory of our nation. 👏👏👏

[@user-lz1qj3ie2e]

when beliefs overpower intellect

[@marimcgee8379]

It's collective punishment and that's too extreme. Why punish the other students who were not a part encampment?

[@kayecaban5324]

Nope! Im with the judges on this one.

[@daysrcdays]

Sorry. Judges never mention how students should react to over 20,000 dead women and children. Guess they just don't care?

[@techserviceondemand9409]

Lighten up. It's only 13 judges, out of something like 900?

[@BillieJean-ye6do]

It starts a PRECEDENT. THESE FEDERAL JUDGES WILL BAN STUDENTS FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY THEN OTHER JUDGES WILL FOLLOW AND DO THE SAME THING! JUST LIKE JEWISH BILLIONAIRE, BILL ACKMAN. HE IS A HARVARD ALUMNI. HE PULLED ALL OF HIS DONATIONS FROM HARVARD AND STATED THAT HE WILL NEVER HIRE ANYONE FROM HARVARD, AGAIN. THERE ARE A LOT OF BILLIONAIRE JEWISH MEN PULLING DONATIONS FROM THESE IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS. IT WILL SNOWBALL. THESE STUDENTS WILL BE WORKING AT MCDONALD'S 😂😂😂

[@xq8152]

What is a conservative judge? Shouldn't they just be judges who interpret the law fairly? Come on.

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

exactly, what the heck is this 🤨

[@billaveda6408]

does anyone think that Jew hating Hamas Youth are capable of interpreting the law fairly?

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

@@billaveda6408 troll harder

[@xq8152]

@@billaveda6408 Yes.

[@xq8152]

@@colorbugoriginals4457 It's well documented that Israel has troll farms that post KZbin comments. Like call center style cubicles of people doing propaganda.

[@ryanohara7690]

This ban should have happened before the protests

[@mananimal3644]

So once again the Jewish grads are being punished.

[@patriotjaneusa504]

🙄 Comprehension is not your friend 😂

[@ronhomolka1796]

It’s their choice. Freedom goes both ways.

[@masescranton9630]

Students from elite schools have become less then impressive in the pay several years. After their latest display of ignorance this fact is only more evident. What employer would want to take a chance with this kind of behavior of the schools.

[@hughjass1044]

Scott Galloway said it better than any I've heard..... "When your endowment is in the tens of billions and has grown at a rate 100x that of your enrollment, you're no longer an institute of learning, you're a hedge fund that offers classes." These colleges have gotten completely out of control and need to be neutered! It's time their administrators were reacquainted with the concept of fear.

[@ObiePaddles]

Totally agree. This is collective punishment.

[@RabbiCashMoney]

It won't be just judges who won't hire them it'll be so many companies that won't either.

[@wendysargent3855]

Dan, somebody has to shut down this movement. It’s just full of hatred.

[@NafGGMU]

id never hire them aswell, not even as my domestic helper!

[@daysrcdays]

So what. You never consider the 20,000 dead women and children from Israel bombings. Guess some folks just don't have humanity in their hearts.

[@NafGGMU]

@@daysrcdays 20k wow where did u get that number mate? Let me guess, Humus stats which they themselves admit it’s wrong. Syria Ammad taken more last 10y compared to this whole drama. Genoc* in Sudan, Yemen, Armenia. Ethn1c cl3@ns1ng in Nigeria..don’t bloody tell me what’s happening coz my ppl when thru hell for 600years during occupation in my homeland..now p1ss off n learn history, actual ones not from tik tok..

[@daysrcdays]

@@NafGGMU What an incorhent response! 20,000 from CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX NEWS, OAN NEWS, CBS, BRITBART NEWS , NEWS MAX! Where you get your information ONLINE lol.

[@Stevedrums741]

It's not an "over-reaction" at all. Hate is hate. I applaud these judges for holding a standard that these Universities refuse to.

[@Ypykaiayyymfr]

The problem is how do you accurately suss out the students who want no part of these protests and are not racists?

[@rosenars6665]

In the time of cancel culture I’m not surprised

[@iMatti00]

👨‍⚖️ ~ Are we not gonna talk about the fact that it’s worse when judges do it? Because these judges seem like they’re trying to get involved in politics. This conversation is being discussed as if politicians or businesses are making this decision. But these are judges who are supposed to stay out of political issues like this. If they don’t wanna hire from the school, that’s one thing. But they wanted to make a big splash about it. PS, then I found out that every one of the judges is a Trump appointee. So that sounds about right. These are probably the ones that were the clear rabies infected activist judges. Not all Trump appointees did it, but these are the ones that fit that group.

[@starrystarrynight6281]

Nobody should ever hire another Columbia law student. This school is beyond help obviously.

[@daysrcdays]

The letter did not mention how students should react to over 20,000 dead civilian women and children! Judges determined what was wrong behavior. They avoided how they should respond.

[@ponderrosie4975]

Initially I thought, wait a minute - that is unfair to those who didn't protest. Then I thought more, went back and looked at the timeline and the and realized not a soul on that campus reacted like students at UNC, Ol MISS, and Rutgers. I think the Judges had no choice. They have to use discernment.

[@user-yg7fv3jo8v]

Are they Hamas graduates?

[@valerieadams7001]

No overreaction! Consequences!

[@NancyK-cu6xj]

Is there a decent Ivy league college out there?

[@michaelehrenberg8583]

That little POF should NEVER get hired in any organization.....

[@berndhoffmann7703]

just palaver, he has said nothing in more than 6 Mins, apart from grandstanding of him and his colleague, I would not hire him either

[@alexshirley6096]

I’m a conservative and pro isreal I don’t agree with what these judges are doing they should only not hire Columbia students if they participated in protests but if they didn’t participate and have nothing to do with the protests look at their resumes and decide from then on out

[@Justin_Paolo]

Hey Danny, if this can happpen on campus??!! It shows these places are broken you silly goose

[@user-py7yk2sf3q]

I’m in agreement with the judges.

[@user-nu7uj9fz8g]

THIS BROADCASTER ISTRYING TO BE SMART 😂😂😂…

[@endless_summer_rose]

No Dan, you are wrong. In principle those other people are not at fault, though it is hard to know who participated as many were covered. However, they are all part of the same institution, who runs it and who is in it. The institution as a whole has to be penalized or this will continue to fester

[@BonBon-kg4mq]

The righteous will suffer with the unrighteous. Let's hope these conservative judges' attitude spreads like the protests did. Also would be nice if Ivy Leagues changed hiring practices of professors by starting with only U.S. citizens need apply.

[@chuckleberryfinn1992]

I'm sure there are plenty of activist judges that select clerks from schools with activist curriculums, exclusively. Pretty much the "ivy league". How else do you end up with a supreme court justice that writes an opinion with a position of, essentially, "that constitution mess, .be damned" . So, By any means necessary , is what the mindset of a future federal judge should be, no ?

[@noahghost4476]

It's not about you Dan

[@billkittleman9631]

AWESOME

[@Saritmess]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@GODOURSALVATION.]

Awesome, i absolutely agree with the above. These people need to learn that if they dont follow the laws there will be serious consequences. Awesome 👌

[@saliksayyar9793]

They will be sued for discrimination. Are they appointed because of their Zio linkages?

[@davidtrottier7066]

They certainly can try but college of choice isn't exactly a protected class. I certainly don't agree with these judges but a lawsuit wouldn't hold up in court.

[@basil770]

Ha ha ha.

[@TheLastLineLive]

I bet this could open up some lawsuit action, I could see them arguing that it is discriminatory, especially if someone from these schools weren’t even participating or agreed with the protestation in question. Also, sounds kinda like Cancel culture.

[@doncampbelljr.usmcret.3197]

GOOD 👍

[@wildwomanofthewoods]

I support the judges actions

[@basil770]

These judges are making a statement. But other judges, and all types of major corporations and other employers won't hire from these schools either. They just won't say anything. And all employers will go over these videos and other social media posts when hiring. They couldn't get hired at Walmart.

[@gilescaver8841]

No bother. There will be plenty of DEI compliance jobs awaiting the progressive brownshirts at Columbia Law.

[@avagrego3195]

Sounds reasonable

[@Slw1111]

That's not a loss. Columbia graduates wouldn't work for fascist conservative judges.

[@dontheshark]

So they will be hired by Liberal judges, and continue their bigotry.

[@IndyGuy65]

Dan I don't agree. I support the employers in that would have hired graduates from my alma mater Va. Comm Univ to never interview VCU graduates.

[@rblauson]

We’ve had enough of the pro Hamas crowd. Please leave.

[@Tolpuddle581]

But Nazis marching in Florida are ok then.

[@Tolpuddle581]

But Fascists in Florida are ok

[@HD-tf6zu]

There sending a message to Columbia school leaders. No one is surprised you take this stance. You’re a liberal and have showed terrible judgement on many issues…..

[@mxvega1097]

Judges support collective punishment? Wow. Sounds a bit loose with the law.

[@lynnhubbard844]

I am ivy league...you are speaking and smirking NOT FUNNY

[@chislip]

Sorry, but you are not unbiased.

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

Abrams judges the federal judges as unfair but then does the same thing to students asking for an extension. That's a reasonable request when you are prevented from going to class and the library.

[@valerierodger]

Nice try, but no. Those students weren’t asking for an extension because they were prevented from going to class and the library, those students were asking for an extension because they didn’t like that the protest was broken up by police. Big difference.

[@coleworld3061]

They’re bluffing

[@billaveda6408]

nope

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

Guest is wrong. The students have no control over the administrator's response.

[@timothylopez8572]

So, slander and discrimination? You know both are actually crimes right?

[@timothylopez8572]

Like, seriously. Not all Columbia graduates participated in these protests.

[@billaveda6408]

accusations are one thing. proving it in court is another.

[@timothylopez8572]

@@billaveda6408 so your position is it's okay as long as you can't prove it in court? So cover your tracks if you want to get away with crime, then it's okay?

[@johnnymisbegotten]

That's a violation of those students civil rights, call Alan Dershowitz #$%?!

[@billaveda6408]

civil rights violation? employers can choose their employees. get back to the library and study the law.

[@inhumanesocietyusa]

They all Jewish ❤

[@Reflectors1]

Ridiculous, vindictive and prejudicial. Dan Abrams ruined it for everyone by making such a totally biased statement, then at the end of the video promoting the channel as unbiased coverage. 👎

[@Solidus__]

Propaganda channel, pure and simple.

[@rufangzhao555]

Great decision! Bravery

[@melvinvaz3704]

Brilliant decision by judges. Further these students and protestors must bd black listed for life.