Amanda Knox's former boyfriend, co-defendant is 'delighted' by retrial | Banfield

Amanda Knox's Italian ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito doesn't think a court will convict Knox in a retrial she faces for slander. They both were convicted of murder in Italy, before being exonerated in 2015, but Knox is now heading back to court. Sollecito joins "Banfield" exclusively to discuss the case.
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[@SherryDyck]

Leave that poor girl alone. She has definitely paid the price over and over again. Hey, by the way, I'm a Canadian and I just saw that we have captured an American Fugitive today. Anyone care about that? His name is Cole Levine and our Mounties got your man! How's that for real news.

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

nice job, mounties! ❤

[@galaxyglitterlatte4664]

She would be out of her mind to step foot in that country EVER again!!!! I seriously doubt that the US has an extradition agreement with Italy regarding slander!!!

[@TheTruthCalls]

Amanda has already been back in Italy without any problems. Also, even if Italy figured out a way to convict her (very unlikely at this point) they couldn't sentence her to more time, so there's no risk.

[@williams.benjaminiii9043]

@@TheTruthCalls Oh contra-re. Those old legal declarations have been whimsically thrown out. This is a fresh start. Italy has the legal right to re-convict her and incarcerate her. If they do that they have to pay her $20,000 x 3 for the three years that they formally attributed as being time served crediting that time that was legally time spent being held in "protective custody (held without bail), as formalized by her 2019 win in the EU Human Court Of Human Rights. @galaxyglitterlatte4664 has it right. But if Knox is in Italy or any member of the EU when any new sentence is decreed she's new media toast that is worth far more in profits then that ridiculously low $20,000/yr can serve as a deterrence..

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@williams.benjaminiii9043 I disagree. She's already served four years in prison. She was previously convicted and sentenced to three years, which, of course, has already been served. The case is infinitely weaker than it was prior to the ECHR ruling. So even if they were to re-convict her, they couldn't sentence her to a longer term than before, on weaker evidence. Ergo, there isn't any possibility that she could wind up serving time. To me, the far larger question is, on what basis could they possibly convict her, given her interrogation statements are thrown out. There literally is no evidence of calunnia. I'd be surprised if Italy decided to even try her again. BTW, I believe you meant to say "au contraire", but I knew what you meant.

[@williams.benjaminiii9043]

@@TheTruthCalls Concerning the larger question; because the Italian court system convicted her for statements that were thrown out. That's why. Even though you'd "be surprised if Italy decided to even try her again" the fact is that you are commenting on news that that is occurring. SURPRISE! Your brain hasn't quite caught up with your finger's mouth.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@williams.benjaminiii9043 No, it's not occurring. The CSC sent it back to the appellate level, but Italy still needs to decide if it wants to retry the charge. SURPRISE! Your brain hasn't a clue how the process works. You might want to try a little research, learn how this works and avoid the sarcastic comments. It might prove to be a little less embarrassing for you.

[@awaitingSaint777]

She should absolutely NOT go to Italy.

[@MsRotorwings]

Former boyfriend? I think she knew the dude for three weeks. He’s more like someone she hooked up with a lifetime ago.

[@cindymichaud7111]

Leave this woman alone. Amanda Knox has been tried so many times it's ridiculous. Double Jeopardy? Triple Jeopardy? Don't go to Italy.

[@gemmag.2988]

Don't kill someone you mean.

[@Holy.HannaH]

​@@gemmag.2988lol funny you use a video about slander to choose to slander🤣

[@mirandaajames]

Amanda should be suing the Italian police force and prosecution along with the media who drug her name through the mud years ago for defamation.

[@joan-lisa-smith]

So in other words you read all sorts of hype that you fell for as the OP said. There's was no blood all over the bathroom, there were a few drops that she assumed was from a period or a cut. The photos online of red smeared everywhere are shots of the chemical the police used, not blood! @@asianconnection7701

[@alien4422]

@@asianconnection7701 Also, why was she lauging and doing hand stands? That's not the behavior of a normal person after a murder.

[@niania7022]

Everyone should think twice about moving to Italy. I see these young families relocating there and then getting upset over their laws. One thing that you need to investigate before moving anywhere is how strict or lax their laws are against crime.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@asianconnection7701 The only thing worse than a dumb post like this is when the person posting it keeps copy/pasting it *in the same thread*

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@rachelle6032 For someone who had nothing to do with the crime, I find four years in prison anything but "getting off pretty easy". Maybe you'd like to go sit in a cell for four years? Maybe you're opinion might change.

[@mikem3789]

May her roommate Rest In Peace. Young woman, gone too soon, long time ago, gone not forgotten, her legacy lives on. Injustice. Hopefully at some point the actual murderer is charged.

[@tinaharris9707]

The actual murderer was charged, tried and convicted and there waa DNA evidence to prove it.

[@fulanichild3138]

The murderer's name is Rudy Guede. He only served 12 years for this heinous murder! There seems to be something wrong with the Italian courts....

[@an-cx1ho]

Dude don't be delusional. SHe got away with murder. SHe is the murderer. She was let go only because of US pressure.

[@mytrip6991]

@@an-cx1hoDude, stop making accusations that have no supporting evidence whatsoever. Speaking of evidence, how about telling us what evidence places her in that cottage, much less Kercher's bedroom, the night of the murder. Bet you can't.

[@aganeko]

Eh…he already served time. RUdy guede…hello?

[@Opinionsrnotfacts574]

Assuming Amanda Knox is back in the US - why on earth would she return to Italy for this retrial?

[@cygnals524]

I am not making fun of him or putting him down in any way but I don't understand why her former boyfriend is "delighted" about another trial. I honestly didn't get any info other than there are 2 different types of trials in Italy.

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

US also has criminal trials and civil trials separately

[@07CS]

@cygnals524 • I didn't get much info either. 'Delighted' sounded strange, he might've used it in a sarcastic way or meant she'll pass with flying colors.

[@stefpix]

it is because the new trial sounds like a formality to clear her name completely and overturn the slander convictions

[@JDkix]

SAMESIES! This was super confusing to me...

[@stefpix]

​@@JDkix Media tends to want to sensationalize reality,, stir tense emotions, and this journalist tends to do that more than often. It should have been clear that the new trial is to completely acquit Amanda Knox from the slander conviction. Banfield loves to stir controversy and make people feel angry about some news. I liked NewsNation in the beginning, but now it feels like tabloid journalism.

[@shirellediana]

Those who are saying she did it just wants a reaction, ignore them

[@TheTruthCalls]

Most of them haven't a clue... but regardless, that's sound advice.

[@turnleftrighthere2605]

They need to leave her alone. Enough trauma.

[@baccy81]

Rudy Guede should be retrialed too, this time in the same room with Knox and Sollecito and their lawyers

[@mytrip6991]

Why since this has zero to do with the new trial since he was never convicted of defamation? If you don't understand what's going on, don't comment.

[@baccy81]

@@mytrip6991 I know, I was just saying. I am just pissed off that they spent so much effort on the couple that had nothing to do with the killing and Mr Guede just nearly got away with it

[@mytrip6991]

@@baccy81 I understand the frustration. The police/prosecutors screwed up and could not admit, even to themselves, that they did. They had to save face however they could. But Guede never would have gotten away with it as they identified him through the bloody fingerprints he left under Kercher's body. As an immigrant, his prints were already on file. If anyone needed to be sued for criminal defamation, it was Guede for his lies about Knox and Sollecito.

[@GimmeTheScoop]

The answer is no Armando should not go back to Italy for any of the hearings. I would not risk it.

[@mytrip6991]

Banfield needs to get some facts straight. Meredith wasn't stabbed 47 times. She had 47 injuries, most being bruises and scrapes. She had 10 knife wounds, 3 being small defensive wounds to her hands. The reason she's being retried for slander (calunnia) is because SHE appealed the conviction and it was granted under the new Italian law that allows an appeal if the ECHR finds a conviction was unfair due to a violation of a person's civil rights. The ECHR ruled this in her case in 2019. This isn't 'crazy'; it's an appeal of a conviction she requested. No, it's not 'principle at this point' at all. It's a good chance to get her conviction annulled which became definitive in 2013 and to annul the 40,000 euros she was ordered to pay Lumumba.

[@MF-ty2zn]

Her case was based on shoddy police work and crappy news media that dragged her through the mud with the Foxy Knoxy junk. Seems like she should sue for libel. The real culprit was a man that was hanging around the roommate.

[@TheLisclark]

Exactly Rudy Guede confessed and left DNA but they went after the kids anyway, messed up.

[@TheLisclark]

@alexwhite1320 The evidence against Rudy Guede: Guede admitted he was in the room. Guede's DNA was found in and on Meredith's body. Guede's DNA along with Meredith’s blood, was found on Meredith's purse. Guede's excrement was found in the toilet. Guede's shoe prints, set in Meredith’s blood, were found in the bedroom and hallway. Guede's handprint, in Meredith’s blood, was found on a pillow case in Meredith's room. Guede had a cut on his right hand that was still visible when he was arrested. Guede fled the country.

[@mikelujanable]

Why would they extradite someone for slander?

[@jennifermorris833]

She is not being extradited.

[@Lisa.G412]

This is not considered slander in the U.S., thats a joke

[@WendellBurkhart-g9v]

Italy needs to keep on doing things like this especially to people from other countries . That way everybody will finally figure out just what this part of Italy is all about ! I've never seen anything like this and they should be the ones paying her for all the lies and corruption that went on while they were trying to frame her and her boyfriend . Every official of any kind of law that's had anything to do with this case and the corruption needs thrown in prison . And it doesn't matter if she comes back they're going to convict her and then throw it out and they'll try it again ! WTH !?

[@GH-tp6vu]

Yep....very typical Italian justice and I use that term quite lightly.

[@Christine-qm1or]

She is innocent

[@williams.benjaminiii9043]

Italy embraced The Napoleonic Code (French: Code Napoléon), officially the Civil Code of the French. It is a system that gives the state the right to keep prosecutions going and going and going. Galileo spent 400 years on trial. They finally worked that trial out. As it turns out the Earth actually does revolve around the sun. Case closed.

[@misterslats]

What a TOTAL waste of the Italian court's time and money. The citizens there should be pissed off and demand the court move on already.

[@Dreamtime-Walker]

I Wouldn’t Risk Going Back.

[@clairebenjamin2238]

She has a huge part in it. Sorry.

[@jennifermorris833]

They have already tried and convicted the true murderer and he has served 12 yrs, she is innocent.

[@stefpix]

The new trial is to completely acquit Amanda Knox from the slander conviction. But Banfield loves to stir controversy and make people feel angry about some news. From the title to the introduction the reporting is confusing and lacks clarity. I liked NewsNation in the beginning, but now it feels like tabloid journalism. The host Banfield tends to sensationalize, stir tense emotions, and she tends to do that more than often. She turned some positive news into something controversial. The new trial seems a formality, as Knox's ex and codefendant Sollecito stated. But Banfield obfuscates the facts.

[@sertorio1040]

Esatto , sono d' accordo !

[@onemanwalking]

Leave her alone

[@angiealexis3717]

WTF? These people have to get a life and stop trying to convict her anymore!!!

[@mytrip6991]

She was already convicted. She's trying to get it overturned.

[@lexyax7074]

They absolutely did it!

[@TheTruthCalls]

And you absolutely have no idea what you're talking about.

[@MH_297]

So who did it then and why was she doing cartwheels after finding out of the gruesome murder of her roommate?

[@joan-lisa-smith]

That never happened. She did the splits to stretch after they kept her in a chair in a corner for hours interrogating her because she had leg cramps.

[@joan-lisa-smith]

Cartwheels never happened, it was made up by the Italian press. @@bambooprincess3495

[@joan-lisa-smith]

Stretched her legs, not actual splits, Italian press twisted everything.@@bambooprincess3495

[@hannahw2697]

Wow. I remember when she was finally free. I was SO happy! This is just terrible, leave her alone.

[@TheTruthCalls]

Actually, this isn't terrible. The one charge she was convicted on was calunnia... but the European Court of Human Rights ruled her rights were violated and effectively tossed the results of the interrogation, where the calunnia charge originated, out. So now Italy needs to decide if it wants to try her again on the charge, except they won't have her interrogation statements to use as evidence, which to me means they have no case. If they don't try her again, or if they do and lose, then I suspect Amanda can sue for unlawful imprisonment.

[@asenlipska]

He’s a rambling person. That makes absolutely no sense.

[@mytrip6991]

It made perfect sense if you understand what's happening.

[@brendad940]

What???

[@DandD2]

Amanda needs locked up and keys thrown away

[@TheTruthCalls]

And you need to learn the facts of the case before you post.

[@edricawebb1578]

No, you need to learn the facts. @@TheTruthCalls

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@edricawebb1578 I know the facts of this case better than 99% of the people commenting on the case. 12 years of research will do that to you. I've challenged you in another post to cite three compelling pieces of evidence you think implicates Amanda ... it will be interesting to see if you try.

[@TruthHighway]

Welcome to Clown World.

[@kelleyrancher]

I hope she isn't silly enough to go back there and stand trial oh my God that would be terrible see if she's convicted she'd never get free again

[@gemmag.2988]

She wd be an idiot if she did. I am in the UK and I am sorry to say that I don't think AK is as innocent as everyone else on here seems to think.

[@bundydata]

There always seemed something off with her and him. But it was never proved.

[@Beitlet]

What was off about them at the beginning of their ordeal was that they were young naïve immature about being put in a circumstance like that, unsure of themselves. Like most early 20 something year olds

[@williamrae9954]

Full of drugs for one...there no saying what she did when she was out of her head on pharmaceuticals,probably doesn't even know herself?

[@gemmag.2988]

@@Beitlet Why did she and Raff buy bleach and clean the crime scene before the cops arrived?

[@arkdark5554]

Amends Knox is a very wicked woman. And with her boyfriend they both went away with murder. Anyone who reads the book about that innocent young student's murder will come to this conclusion.

[@mboiko]

...and if somehow you found out she was actually TOTALLY innocent the whole time, how bad would you feel for her? The normal reaction would be..."Well then I would feel really bad for her". Because if you can't say that, then this is really about you...and not her.

[@arkdark5554]

@@mboiko I’m telling you. Read the book. She’s a narcissistic, cold blooded killer.

[@arkdark5554]

@@mboiko Death In Perugia by John Follain.

[@mboiko]

@@arkdark5554 Here are some books that support Amanda Knox's innocence... enjoy. - Waiting to Be Heard: A Memoir by Amanda Knox - The Forgotten Killer: The Story of the Monster Who Walked Free by John Follain - The Amanda Knox Story: A Murder in Perugia by Raffaele Sollecito and Andrew Gumbel - A Death in Italy: The Definitive Account of the Amanda Knox Case by John Follain - When Innocence Doesn't Matter: Ordeals of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito by Ron Hendry - Honor Bound: My Journey to Hell and Back with Amanda Knox by Raffaele Sollecito

[@mytrip6991]

@@mboiko There is no such book called "The Forgotten Killer: The Story of the Monster Who Walked Free". There is a book called 'The Forgotten Killer: Rudy Guede and the Murder of Meredith Kercher " by Douglas Preston and John Douglas. "A Death in Italy: The Definitive Account of the Amanda Knox Case by John Follain" is not pro-innocent book. Follain claimed to write from a neutral view but he let his pro-guilt bias slip several times.

[@mytrip6991]

People, BEFORE YOU COMMENT, at least understand what this trial is and isn't. It ISN'T a new murder trial; she has been definitively acquitted and cannot be retried for that. It IS a new trial that was granted because KNOX appealed her defamation conviction, for which she has already served her sentence of 3 years. This isn't Italy going after Knox, it's Knox going after Italy to be cleared of her only remaining conviction (calunnia (defamation) against her former boss).

[@williams.benjaminiii9043]

They just erased that premise that those 3 years spent in protective custody (held without possibility of bail) were credited. They just erased that premise legally. It's a new trial. Knox is definitely subject to any new interpretation. She is at risk despite you infantile premise.

[@mytrip6991]

@@williams.benjaminiii9043 Before you start slinging insults, I suggest you know whereof you speak. "Lumumba’s lawyer has explained to Italian media that Knox, if found guilty in the new trial, will not be given another, longer sentence." (Euronews, 3/10/2023) Would you like to present evidence that contradicts Lumumba's lawyer? ETA: I didn't think so.

[@williams.benjaminiii9043]

@@mytrip6991 I agree that this isn't a new murder trial even though low-life-media is trying to play that card for media-profit. My concern is Knox being re-incarcerated for slander. It is possible despite any opine, and that possibility should not in in play. Lumumba's lawyer's opinion is not a worthy as any sort of assurance that that is not in play.

[@williams.benjaminiii9043]

@@mytrip6991 Lumumba’s lawyer is not empowered to enforce that presumption. Why are you so dense?

[@mytrip6991]

​@@williams.benjaminiii9043 Sorry, but you are wrong. Do you know anything about Italian law? Carlo Pacelli is an Italian lawyer and does. From "Italian News": "Lumumba’s lawyer also clarified that in the new trial for slander, Knox does not risk an increase in her sentence to three years imprisonment, a sentence she had already served with almost four years in prison, from 6 November 2007 to 4 October 2011, when she was acquitted during the appeal process held in Perugia and subsequently released. "There is no reformatio in peius, that is a more serious sentence for those who have appealed", stressed the lawyer." The most important element of the prohibition of reformatio in peius is that it is a legal guarantee for the defence to be able to file an appeal without the risk that a judgment might be altered to the detriment of the accused." This is contained in the Italian Code of Criminal Procedure, Art. 63, b): " When the decision or sentence has been appealed only by the person convicted, or the Prosecutor on that person's behalf, it cannot be amended to his or her detriment." Like I said, know whereof you speak before accusing others of ignorance.

[@07CS]

What an educated handsome young man; I cannot believe they charged him with murder. Amanda's boss most likely did do it, it just couldn't be proven now he wants American dollars.

[@fulanichild3138]

They got the guy who did it---Rudy Guede. He only served 12 years! Disgusting.

[@rlizabethcastillo5541]

Thenile is not just a river in Egypt.

[@gemmag.2988]

Rubbish. She lied about her boss being involved. Luckily he had a cast iron alibi. Don't believe everything you see on US msm. I am not being unkind I mean it. The mainstream media certainly here in the UK and probably in the US too cannot be trusted to give you the facts.

[@kiddeath96]

​@@fulanichild3138funny how rudy sccused Knox of being involved.

[@TheTruthCalls]

Amanda's boss, Patrick Lumumba, had nothing to do with the crime. The murder was committed by Rudy Guede.

[@houstonconservative1776]

She did it

[@mytrip6991]

Based on what evidence?

[@TheTruthCalls]

Well, the courts disagree with you and, as it turns out, their opinion matters, yours doesn't. But why don't you try to articulate a case against them... cite some evidence you think proves she was involved. I'm fairly certain you don't have anything, but still, it would be entertaining to see you try.

[@houstonconservative1776]

@@TheTruthCalls there was plenty of evidence.. mostly circumstantial....some very good physical evidence and the lie detector issue... never passed one and given 7

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@houstonconservative1776 No, there was almost no evidence against Amanda. As for lie detector tests... she never took one, though I'd be really interested in hearing why you think she took seven of them.

[@Beitlet]

Is it possible for the Italian prosecutors to actually force her back to Italy? Extradition laws?she’d be crazy to ever set foot on Italian soil again. This is ridiculous, insane & very petty Imo. Italian LE & prosecution, let it go

[@deborahbaker4770]

IT’S RIDICULOUS ‼️‼️‼️💯💯💯

[@cheylikespie]

I just want them to leave this poor girl alone... It's been a decade in a half. Let her move on!

[@marsargoxmiso1695]

I don’t understand why they continue to do this to her? Like let it go already clearly the investigator and police did things so wrong.

[@mytrip6991]

Italy is doing nothing to Knox. Knox appealed her defamation conviction and she's getting a new trial.

[@mytrip6991]

Before commenting and having conniption fits, understand what's happening in this case: Italy is NOT retrying Knox for the murder. Italy is NOT 'going after her'. Italy did NOT instigate this retrial. KNOX APPEALED to the Italian SC to have her existing defamation CONVICTION OVERTURNED, which they did. They have granted her a new trial.

[@williams.benjaminiii9043]

Do you agree that "her roommate" was stabbed "47 times" as reported 16 seconds into this 'news' story? That is false. The real number is less then 10. Why didn't you call that bullshit out being absolutely bullshit as your so knowledgeable. It is a re-trial and as such is subject to being eligible for re-conviction and re-sentencing. That will make money if those courts does more wrongs. which side of right and wrong are you are you on?

[@mytrip6991]

@@williams.benjaminiii9043 Actually, i know this case very well. And what I said about the new calunnia trial is factual.

[@mytrip6991]

@@williams.benjaminiii9043 " blind trust for the Italian Justice system in general and you infantile assessment that it isn't the very definition of corrupt with you being one of it's cheerleaders." Wow. That is some claim and very, very wrong. I have no blind trust in the Italian justice system. I've been extremely critical of the way the police and prosecutors handled this case. The police investigation was incompetent , the prosecutors had tunnel-vision and could not admit to a mistake. Massei and Nencini both made egregious errors in interpretation of the evidence including overriding expert evidence for their own non-expert opinions. Napoleoni, Zugarini and several other police involved in this case have been convicted and sentenced for their own crimes as well as Prosecutor Manuela Comodi being convicted of illegal acts and being demoted to civil cases. Italy is notorious for the number of ECHR cases brought against it and the amount of money they have to pay out every year to people who they unjustly arrested and/or imprisoned or whose right they violated is astronomical. If that's being a "cheerleader" for the Italian judicial system, I wonder what being critical of it is?

[@mytrip6991]

@@williams.benjaminiii9043 I don't use my real name because I' was harassed by a pro-guilt nutcase before who threatened my daughter. Some of us learn.

[@CarolineMiller-fj1ut]

Was Amanda Knox anywhere near Moscow Idaho? Italy should have never cut her loose!

[@kiddeath96]

AK : (walks into Apartment) "so, who's down for my sex game?"

[@mytrip6991]

Stupid comment.

[@mytrip6991]

A stupid reply to a stupid comment.

[@TheTruthCalls]

What an amazingly stupid comment.

[@sandrabaker1312]

Poor Meridith, whoever did this horrific crime should be still in prison.

[@mytrip6991]

I agree. Rudy Guede should have served his entire 16 year sentence instead of getting out in 13.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@mytrip6991 I'd take it a step further... he should have been given a life sentence, which in Italy, IIRC, is 30 years. Further, he shouldn't have been given a fast path trial as that got him an automatic 1/3 deduction on his sentence. He should still be in prison and have another 14 years to go.

[@mytrip6991]

@@TheTruthCalls He was given a life (30 years) sentence but the appeal court reduced it to 24 years then an automatic reduction of 1/3. He had the right to a fast track trial and its reduction in sentence of 1/3. I agree that serving 13 out of 16 years for the brutal killing of Meredith, his continued denial of guilt and blaming AK and RS deserves more but that is Italian law.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@mytrip6991 My understanding is in Italy, if you get a life sentence it's 30 years and there can be no automatic reduction. I also believe that the state can deny someone the right to a fast track trial, just as there is no guarantee of a plea deal in the states. Then again, Italian law is a bit odd and it's been a long time since I was involved in discussions concerning the law there, so....

[@mytrip6991]

@@TheTruthCalls The law changed in 2019. Crimes with life sentences no longer qualify for a fast track trial like Guede had: "The reform, implemented by Law no. 33 of 12 April 2019 ("Inapplicability of the shortened judgment to crimes punished with the penalty of life imprisonment"), has been implemented through changes made to art. 429 c.p.p. (insertion of paragraph 2-bis), art. 438 c.p.p. (insertion of paragraphs 1-bis and 6-ter, and amendment of paragraph 6), art. 441-bis (insertion of paragraph 1-bis). The key rule, undoubtedly, is represented by the new paragraph 1-bis of art 438, where it is stated, precisely, that "It is not allowed the shortened judgment for crimes punished with the penalty of life imprisonment".

[@williamrae9954]

Deserved everything she got...she should still be rotting there! One horrid person!

[@9686-n3l]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6KsZpKehNeIfKM who do you think raped and murdered a young girl? Amanda, or this hard drug user whose bloody hand print, feces, and seminal fluid were found at the murder scene? The same guy who was caught breaking into places with a knife in the weeks leading up to the murder.. hmmmm... and then fled the country and admitted to it on a recorded Skype call ... hhmmmmm

[@TheTruthCalls]

I'm thinking it has to take one horrid person to say horrible things about someone they don't even know.

[@heathern5165]

Why can’t they leave them alone?

[@mytrip6991]

Knox herself appealed her slander conviction to the Italian Supreme Court. They granted her appeal. It's not the Italian court coming after Knox.

[@christinacatalano]

Knew it. That’s all.

[@jda8176]

Leave this poor girl alone, she's been through enough!

[@anniehills3580]

What the???

[@lisbethbird8268]

I hear she works on exoneration cases now.

[@NotSureIfSrs_x]

Maybe bro doesn't know what delighted means, everything else in his statement sounds like he supports her and doesn't expect her to be convicted.

[@an-cx1ho]

he might mean that hes delighted that she will win yet another court case

[@mytrip6991]

Of course he's delighted. The Italian SC granted Knox's appeal to have her defamation conviction annulled and a new trial set. If they hadn't, she'd remain forever convicted of defamation.

[@vdeniceeckert3494]

She shouldn't go to Italy.....she's been acquitted, bullshit

[@MrBetc]

And that is why he is a former boyfriend.

[@anniehills3580]

That case was a witch hunt. They targeted her.

[@easygrowing9928]

Horrifying for Meredith and family.

[@Jac70]

Meredith wasn't stabbed 47 times. She had numerous injuries from small bruises and cuts to 3 (iirc) significant knife wounds. This bit of misinformation is still used by some to assert more than one perp.

[@mytrip6991]

It's nice to see a commenter who actually knows something for a change! There were 12 cuts/stabs: 1 fatal cut to throat, 1 serious but non-fatal cut to face, six minor cuts/nicks to face, 4 very minor cuts on hands that were likely defensive wounds. (Autopsy report)

[@anniehills3580]

They STILL HAVENT SOLVED IT??? THAT is why they are going thru this again. I think she did not understamd what they were asking her. They would not speak English, nor give her a translator.

[@mytrip6991]

This has nothing to do with the murder case; she's already been definitively acquitted of that. Knox appealed the slander conviction which the court granted and allowed a new trial. She had a translator for most of the interrogation but she acted more like an interrogator than an interpreter which the ECHR found was a violation of Knox's rights.

[@lyniereese1150]

I think they are guilty. I have always thought that. I followed the trial closely years ago and there were so many facts circumstances that pointed to her.

[@mytrip6991]

How about stating exactly what these "so many facts circumstances that pointed to her" are?

[@TheTruthCalls]

I started following the case late 2011. I've invested far more time and effort into the case than I should have, but I was fascinated by it. And after all that time, after all that research, I can state with near certainty, that neither of them had anything to do with the murder. It was all Guede.

[@mytrip6991]

@@TheTruthCalls I started following it almost from the beginning and originally thought the pair guilty from what I read in the media which was mostly leaks from the police. But some things just didn't add up for me from what they were saying. The more research I did, especially on the forensic evidence, the more I began to realize something wasn't right with the police/prosecution story. I was right.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@mytrip6991 Yeah, I didn't pick up on the case until shortly before the Hellmann verdict. I was a little surprised that one court could convict and the next court acquit. I thought that was very odd, so I started to research. Started out at HuffPost. Then the two PMF's, then TJMK, then IIP and finally Rand/ISF. I didn't have an opinion either way as I missed all the early anti-Knox/Sollecito coverage (though I did go back and dig a lot of it up later on... couldn't believe the BS that was written about the case). Eventually I began pulling court documents, tech reports, etc., and like you, I began to realize things weren't adding up. I now look back at it and I find it rather scary that two courts actually convicted them, and how many people still post on the case, proclaiming how they just know they're guilty. Scary stuff...

[@mytrip6991]

@@TheTruthCalls What I find is that those proclaiming Sollecito's and Knox's guilt seldom know more about the case than the early misinformation put out by the media which was almost always based on leaks and claims from the police. People make up their minds very early on and cling to those opinions tighter than the 'Hang In There" poster cat no matter what evidence later proves them wrong. Then they resort to "body language" from KZbin 'experts' (LOL!) and accusations that Italy was pressured by the US or the acquitting courts were "bent" somehow. Anything rather than admit they were just plain wrong.

[@jasonlucas2328]

Amanda Knox's guilty.

[@TheTruthCalls]

Well the courts thought otherwise, and I'm pretty sure they knew a lot more about the case than you.

[@Jac70]

Amanda Knox owns a 'guilty'"!? The fact that you cannot string a simple sentence together tells everyone what they need to know about your reasoning skills.

[@kq1777]

The reason why they convicted twice is because its very unlikely that she and her boyfriend was not involved somehow. There is mountains of circumstantial evidence against both. All of this circumstantial evidence cannot be explained another way. Most perhaps, but not all. The investigation did a horrible job and thats why they could not prove for certain and had to let her go. Rightly so, but that is not a statement of innocence rather a statement of horrific investigations that could not conclusively prove much.

[@mytrip6991]

The reason why they acquitted her twice is because it's highly improbable that she and her boyfriend could have been involved and leave no evidence of themselves in the room where Kercher was murdered. Guede certainly didn't manage to do it. There is no circumstantial evidence. Body language pseudoscience, an alleged cartwheel, weed induced faulty memory, a coerced confession taken during an unrecorded, untranscribed, and lawyerless interrogation, and unfounded and unsupported by evidence accusations of jealousy are not evidence of any kind.

[@Lisa.G412]

So stupid, just let it go at this point, shes not guilty and the fact they couldnt get her on murder so they will try anything to get her.

[@mytrip6991]

You're misunderstanding what's happening. She was already definitively convicted of slander in 2013. Knox appealed that conviction for which she already served 3 years in prison, under a new Italian law, and the Supreme Court granted her appeal. They annulled the conviction and set a new trial. They're not trying to 'get' her on anything.

[@annereidy7981]

I suppose they just want to keep hammering that principle home?

[@had2galsinthebooth]

Maybe those Italian bigwigs/prosecutors should charge their public juries with FAILURE TO CAPITULATE DUE TO LACKING EVIDENCE and throw them all in jail for not towing the Italian line.... If this was here in America this newest charge sort of goes beyond what we call double jeopardy and is into the realm of quad jeopardy. Since she already did the time Amanda should just let her lawyers handle it and stay away from Italy. Hard to say though, she might want to go there and embarrass them personally after all they have done to her.

[@QueenReina6419]

How about she just dont show up! What can really happen. Can't the US protect her??

[@joan-lisa-smith]

Ya, if I were her after what happened I would never step into that country again!

[@sabbottart]

It’s incredible how many people think she’s guilty. I think they were jealous of her looks, especially back when.

[@Moonstone115]

😅

[@xtiphuny89]

That's middle school level thinking.

[@daniellecruz2917]

Her looks are average...she's slightly pretty then and now

[@Jackietreehorn-z5e]

Her looks? She very average looking. I wouldn't date her based on looks

[@TheTruthCalls]

No, they think she's guilty because of the horrendous reporting on the case, as well as a few obsessive anti-Knox haters who built and maintained websites designed to dupe people into thinking they were involved.

[@pollyannaprinciple5860]

Raffaele is probably delighted because this Amanda's opportunity to save face in the slander retrial. I think that is how he looked at the whole situation. Plus, this will give Amanda an opportunity for closure with this whole incident. She can return to Italy and let go of any fears she had about Italy due to the trauma from the time she spent there last. If you look at this in a positive way, this is her chance to heal.

[@mytrip6991]

No, it's Amanda's chance to have her slander conviction annulled just as her murder conviction was. She has already returned to Italy twice and faces no possibility of arrest as she has already served the sentence for the slander conviction. This new trial puts her in no danger of being arrested.

[@mikem3789]

Retrial???? She was already tried! It seems too many times! What in the Italy world is going on, now? The case, it seems, would have been solved by now, the actual murderer jailed/charged. Unfortunate AK had to go through, so much of what she has had to. Hopefully at some point her and him also, can put the experience, in their past. Ideally, the murderer will be found, guilty. Disgusting example of injustice, it seems.

[@mytrip6991]

Yes, she was tried, convicted, and served her time for the defamation charge which SHE appealed and was granted a new trial. There's a very good chance that conviction will be definitively annulled and she will no longer be convicted of that, either.

[@barbararocca7228]

That girl didn t kill herself, Nox knows what happened, the online reason why she escaped conviction is for political reasons...poor little Italy didn t want to risk usa friendship

[@mytrip6991]

What a load of nonsense. Rudy Guede killed Kercher and spend 13 years in prison. She was convicted twice in Italy and imprisoned for 4 years so your allegation isn't based on reality.

[@TheTruthCalls]

You're right about one thing... Meredith (she did have a name) didn't kill herself. But apparently you haven't paid attention ... Rudy Guede killed her and was convicted for it.

[@barbararocca7228]

@@TheTruthCalls they all have been convicted for murder...I payed a lot of attention to it since I'm Italian. In the sentencing you can clearly read that it s a fact that Amanda was in the house at the time of the murder. But she s american and italian police compromised the investigation by not following guide lines. End of the storia she s guilty but free.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@barbararocca7228 No, Amanda and Raffaele were definitively acquitted of the murder. Only Guede was convicted. I'm also Italian, and have extensively researched the case since late 2011. There was no evidence of their involvement. It's a false narrative created by the prosecution after they arrested them with no evidence other than police intuition. The media, including social media, then exacerbated the situation by repeating, and even embellishing that narrative. Hell, the prosecution spent over 200K Euros to create a cartoon of how they thought the crime went down based on nothing more than imagination. For the record, the final report suggested she was in the cottage based SOLELY on the interrogation statement that had her in the kitchen covering her ears. Of course, as we all know, that interrogation violated her rights and has been ruled inadmissible, so the MR shouldn't have ever mentioned it. Regardless, it is NOT evidence of her being in the cottage, and if you were actually paying attention you would know this. But you are correct about one thing... the police made massive mistakes throughout the investigation. I would remind you that when they arrested Amanda and Raffaele, they had NO evidence other than a coerced statement, and they knew damn well how they got that. Had they actually followed the evidence, Guede would have been the only one arrested and prosecuted. But, you know, when you have an arrogant, narcissistic prosecutor who would rather do anything than admit he made a mistake, his fabrication of a case against them is not surprising. But really, that fabricated case should never have seen the inside of a courthouse. You're also correct that we are very close now to the end of the story. Two innocent people lost four years of their lives, but they are free and enjoying life again. The killer, Guede, got off incredibly light, and sadly, he too is now free and enjoying is life while a beautiful life remains lost forever. Not Italy's finest moment, that's for sure.

[@mytrip6991]

@@barbararocca7228 It was a judicial fact...something found by a court in their verdict...but NOT an ACTUAL fact. The ECHR said that the violations of her rights to a lawyer and an impartial interpreter made that conviction 'unfair' which is why she is getting a new trial for the calunnia charge. Tell me what EVIDENCE, other than her coerced "confession", places her at the cottage the night of the murder. What credible witness or forensic evidence proves she was there the night of Nov. 1, 2007. You can't because there isn't any. Knox being American as NOTHING to do with her acquittal by Cassation. It's an excuse people use when they can't accept the acquittal.

[@waterislife5109]

She is guilty!!

[@mytrip6991]

Based on what evidence?

[@mytrip6991]

@blueemoonlady You really don't have a clue and are repeating lies and misinformation. You need to keep up. 1. Sollecito's DNA on Kercher's bra clasp was found to have been almost certainly from contamination due to the police's incompetence in its handling by two forensic experts who have Ph. D.'s in forensics who were appointed by the court as independent reviewers. Would you like to explain how the DNA of at least two other unidentified men got on that same tiny bra hook? Neither matched the DNA of the man she was sleeping with. 2. Mixed blood evidence? That old lie spread by the likes of Barbie Nadeau? Your ignorance of DNA is showing. Read and learn: ""If a stain that is identified to contain human blood contains a mixture of DNA from multiple individuals, there is no way to positively determine if in fact there were multiple bleeders. A DNA result looks the same for any type of cellular material. A principle that can be used to frame possible interpretations is that we know that blood has a high level of DNA in it. So, if there is an apparent mixture of two individuals, and one of the individuals is present at a very high level while the other one is minute, there are at least two possible explanations (neither of which are necessarily more likely). 1: There is a lot of blood from one person mixed with a small amount of blood from a second person or 2: The major DNA donor was bleeding and the blood was deposited on an area that contained a trace DNA component from a second individual (e.g. saliva, perspiration, touch DNA). Another issue is that there is no way to determine if both sources of DNA were deposited in/on the stain at the same time." (DNA ISSUES SURROUNDING THE AMANDA KNOX CASE, Mehul Anjaria, BS biochemistry, MS Criminalistics, MBA DNA Consulting,LLC and member of Panel of Expert Witnesses of the County of Los Angeles Superior Court) Knox shared that bathroom with Kercher and used the sink to brush her teeth, wash her hands, etc. She used the bidet and touched the cotton bud box. There is no evidence that the source of Knox's DNA was blood and not her saliva, skin cells, perspiration, etc. If the incompetent Stefanoni had bothered to swab other areas that did not have visible blood, she'd likely have found Knox's non-blood DNA, too. The doctor who examined Knox found no cuts or wounds. 3. There was no mixed blood in Romanelli's room. In fact, there was NO blood as found by the police's own forensic expert. She tested both samples with TMB and both samples were negative. That is in the court records. Do you know what TMB is? It's a blood specific test, unlike luminol. All you're doing is repeating old, disproved misinformation.

[@Jac70]

Absense of evidence is evidence of absense.

[@bluecool533]

She is a killer...she is a killer... she is a killer from the get go..

[@tiffanyp5781]

Rudy Guede killed her roommate.

[@katjay3125]

Yup

[@vickicali]

You say that like you have absolute proof. Which you don't. I hope you don't serve on juries.

[@williamrae9954]

​@@vickicaliKnox was high,she probably thought it was a laugh at the time,reality probably set in when she came down...forever guilty in my eyes!

[@vickicali]

@@williamrae9954 People get high all the time. This isn't proof of anything and certainly not murder but ok.

[@Starcrunch913]

They’re obsessed with her. The continue to stalk her with malicious prosecution.

[@eden_aumakua]

There was NEVER any motive for Amanda Knox to un-alive anyone!! I've always stood by her and I feel that she should sue the living daylights out of the Italian Govt. - Mr Raffaele = no comment.

[@moomu7231]

"un-alive".... instresting choice of wording....

[@Jay-hr3rh]

This was the most notorious three-some of all times.

[@mytrip6991]

Would you care to explain how two of this "three-some" managed to leave no DNA, no fingerprints, and no bloody shoeprints in Kercher's bedroom while Guede left all those?

[@TheTruthCalls]

Except there was no threesome... Amanda and Raffaele never left his apartment. Guede did the murder all by his lonesome.

[@aganeko]

Awww he is so cute!!!!!!

[@bluecool533]

You talk like you have absolute proof. Do you? Have absolute proof? She is a killer..end off .

[@TheTruthCalls]

You want to try to present a case that even remotely makes her look guilty? I'll make you look foolish by citing facts, but go ahead and give it a try. I'm willing to bet you know virtually nothing about the case, and as such, you won't be able to make an argument for guilt.

[@MS-zh6yf]

Jesus Christ! Leave her alone.

[@drymustard]

These two murderers should be locked up forever

[@mytrip6991]

Would you care to present the evidence either was there the night of the murder? I'm going to guess not.

[@TheTruthCalls]

Why do people who know NOTHING about the case feel compelled to say things like this? I'm willing to bet you can't articulate why you think they're murderers, and you won't take mytrip up on his challenge to you to present evidence that either was there the night of the murder.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@mytrip6991 This seems to be today's society in a nutshell. People who don't know jack about what they're talking about don't hesitate to call people murderers. I'm sure drymustard wouldn't like it if I start posting that s/he's a murderer. Of course, I wouldn't have any evidence of it either, but isn't that the point....

[@mytrip6991]

@@TheTruthCalls The sheer amount of ignorance on the FACTS of this case by most of those who post comments is mind boggling. But ignorance rarely keeps people from having a firm opinion on something. Neither does stupidity.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@mytrip6991 And almost without fail, you ask people to give you just 2-3 pieces of evidence that convinced them of their guilt and people can't do it. They just know... I find that very troubling. Social media is a huge part of the problem.

[@J4ME5_]

Leave her alone

[@juliegriffiths4183]

She did it

[@margomalik181]

she did it

[@mytrip6991]

Based on what? Her DNA, fingerprints, foot/shoeprints in Meredith's bedroom? Oh, wait...all those belonged to Rudy Guede.