The Fatima Prophecies with James Tunney

James Tunney, LLM, is an Irish barrister who has lectured on legal matters throughout the world. He is a poet, a scholar, and author of The Mystery of the Trapped Light: Mystical Thoughts in the Dark Age of Scientism plus The Mystical Accord: Sutras to Suit Our Times, Lines for Spiritual Evolution; also Empire of Scientism: The Dispiriting Conspiracy and Inevitable Tyranny of Scientocracy, TechBondAge: Slavery of the Human Spirit, and Human Entrance to Transhumanism: Machine Merger and the End of Humanity. His website is www.jamestunney....
Here he describes a 1917 series of events that took place in Fatima, Portugal, involving apparitions of "Our Lady" that appeared to three children - and eventually to a large crowd of tens of thousands of people. Various prophecies have been associated with the Fatima occurrences. Tunney examines the existing records concerning these prophecies and relates them to the rise of scientistic materialism, the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, and the loss of belief in the supernatural - even within the Church itself. As this interview was recorded, the Pope was engaged in a ceremony to consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the immaculate heart of the holy virgin.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death.
(Recorded on March 25, 2022)
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[@gustavofonseca1409]

as brasilian, we are very familiar with Fátima's miracles. It's a very popular devotion here. I visited Fátima and it was a very unique experience. I have never felt so much peace as I felt that day. It's a different place....

[@shukrillah2589]

Thanks for sharing, where did you visited her, Could you please share your visit in little details please would appreciate if you could elaborate your experience

[@sailorbychoice1]

I was born in '61 and raised with the Catholic Church. Unlike many _Fallen Catholics,_ I do not disparage The Church. I became a Spiritualist, but I find as I get older I become more Catholic in my Spiritualism. I have always been a spiritual seeker. I feel the Catholic Education I got as a child gave me the programming language in my brain to understand the esoteric. I have to admit that attending a Catholic Service, especially if performed in Latin touches me inside. There is power in something said in Latin. Perhaps that's why JK Rowling used Latin as the base for most of the _spells_ used in the Harry Potter Book series. Here's an odd thing: There are two places in a Catholic service where Alter Boys used to ring a bell, just after the attending priest quoted Jesus. They no longer ring the bell, but I can hear the bell ring~ even if I am attending in a language I can not speak, I can hear the bell ring each time.

[@greggoreo6738]

I believe you. A miracle expressly for you. God's way of say. "YOU ARE LOVED." Gregg Oreo long Beach Ca

[@angie917]

Can definitely relate.

[@micheleparker3780]

Yes! I, too, was raised Catholic (born in '59), and I remember! And yes, I can still hear the bells...

[@katiem7688]

I’m also reembracing my spiritual Catholicism. I was just saying the other day that I wish there was a reformed spiritual Catholic Church, I would totally go!

[@tinman55]

They ring the bell so parishioners knew when to bow their heads. The bells were removed several years ago. I prefer the bells also, they take me back to childhood.

[@hireality]

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[@hireality]

James, if you are reading this by any chance, I’m planning to soon visit my real home, Gothenburg 🇸🇪, and would be delighted to sit down with you to interview you on the subject that I attempt to cover for my channel which is the evolution of human consciousness and technology. Shine on✨

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[@robertryan2542]

Excellent show. Listening here in Limerick, Ireland 🇮🇪.

[@Dutchess0909]

Cheers from Holland

[@josephsonoftheuniverse5541]

Blessings brother 🪔🪔🪔🪔🪔🪔🪔

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Love Limerick

[@channelbree]

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[@martinrea8548]

4 in a row!!!!!

[@DimiOana]

I probably breathed only several times through the entire length of the interview. The issues raised, the references ( which from some were familiar to me) and the bouncing between black and white, good or bad, make this talk one of my favourite from NTA. Thanks Jeffrey for such a great guest and for beeing the perfect instrument ( no pun intended) in creating new levels of thinking. Thank you James!

[@boral108]

My grandparents were there and witnessed the phenomenon. I know of someone who was 15- 20 km away and also witnessed the "dance of the sun".

[@mariesook9141]

Awesome!!!!

[@sports872]

Any more information on it?

[@deborahbayer5798]

Thank you, gentlemen. This discussion resonates with me deeply. There's much work to be done to align our intentions with our survival as a species and as a planet🙏💗

[@ordsmedensmening9702]

Great comment 🙏🏻 Bless your words 🤍 The Order still exists and Eye will work harder.

[@kathrynphillips3710]

I agree 💖🙏

[@Dutchess0909]

Amen!

[@heatherc1563]

✌❤. Wherever you may be 😊

[@LoneRanger.801]

I would very much love to see JT to come back and continue on those thoughts. There is much to be said there. Some difficult thoughts to be shared. NTA is the best platform and JM is a lovely host. This conversation is just warming up. So looking forward to hearing more from JT. Thank you everyone.

[@o2kala649]

I visited Fatima in 2019 and it was a very eye opening experience. I brought my kids and we visited the homes of the children and even stood in front of the stone wall of their house.. fascinating story.

[@derek8282]

I enjoy all your interviews with James Tunney and the friendship and goodwill that comes across in your conversations, and that's present in all your interviews, with anybody. So, thanks for being so open, Jeffrey, and making space for these fascinating and enlightening talks.

[@songbirdalbert1247]

I've had a few mystical experiences myself, and seen a few things. Once we connect and follow our own intuition instead of listening to the external world around us, things begin to align, that's our mission here, to align with the sacred and know we are spiritual beings having an earthly experience.

[@greggoreo6738]

Oui!

[@kokolanza7543]

Boy this man can tell a fascinating story. Not meant as a reflection on the correctness of the content, but on how interesting he is. And so knowledgeable. Wonderful to listen to. Am much in agreement regarding the Church's bad judgment in banning the Latin mass. Saddening, a loss of beauty and tradition. Also, at the end James refers to the significance of an individual's actions in relation to the people around him or her. One more lesson to take to heart. Thank you Jeffrey. Love and good vibes to all the fans of NTA.

[@hara3435]

papism.....pah !

[@spiralsun1]

Yes. Our actions, when it’s important-and we do not always know when-do echo in eternity. Sometimes the fate of millions, even the universe hangs on decisions made by one. Or decisions in a single moment. From someone who decides early on to be true, to be a champion for the good and strives for a lifetime to be that as the green Earth grows in the light of the sun.

[@phillipbernhardt-house6907]

@@spiralsun1 and @kokolanza: yes, this point is very important indeed. The Hermetic maxim from the Emerald Tablet, often poorly translated (from the later Latin translations of the original, which is only available in Arabic) as "As Above, So Below; As Below, So Above," taken as a rendering of the relationship between the microcosm and macrocosm (merely) mirroring one another, is relevant here: the closer rendering of what was in the Arabic text (itself translated from a presumed Greek original, as so many important texts have been) is "what is Above comes from/generates that which is Below; and that which is Below comes from/generates that which is Above." Thus, earthly matters have their origins in things from higher dimensions/realities, or "heaven" if you prefer; and likewise, heavenly things have their origins in earthly realities--and thus our choices, decisions, and attitudes can have those impacts, echoes, and causes in other worlds as well.

[@spiralsun1]

@@phillipbernhardt-house6907 Wow, very well said!! 🙌😳🙏🏻❤️‍🔥

[@BothSidesNow52]

One of the most brilliant and salient discussions I have heard for a long time.

[@carolyncarson1671]

Thank you both so much for this informative interview. Our Lady, as goes by many a name, is easily accessible to all, always, by just starting a conversation. In my experience, the rosary offers a spiritual portal that can bring the mystical to life for individuals practicing it, offering greater connection to intuitive guidance toward the potential for a powerful healing journey. It is a spiritual tool that facilitates a subtle process of gaining greater spiritual alignment, balance and peace within. This powerful tool would be a huge threat to any organization wanting to control thought and behaviour. This would explain why Vatican II essentially "buried the Lady" along with the Latin Mass. No matter your beliefs or religious affiliations, the rosary mystical portal and the Lady cares not and is equally as wonderous in effect when called upon.

[@adamgoldwasser]

Amen🙏🏼

[@ConstancaClara]

Brilliant! Im pprtuguese, I've read all there is to read about Fatima and James is very accurate in this interview (a lot of the information is wrong and therefore it is difficult to find people talking about it without an agenda). Besides, James gives us tons of valuable information. Bravo! Big thank you to you both

[@bertrandall9864]

So happy to have discovered this channel. I love everything about it!

[@borderlands6606]

Marian apparitions occur at times of great social upheaval. James's conclusion about political opponents praying for their vanquished enemy, is a useful takeaway point. Sometimes global events are so intractable that they have to be framed within prayers of intention, because there is no objective way through the problem. Each apparition emphasises a different virtue to coincide with the concurrent threat.

[@johndeegan7696]

Yet again James Tunney brings very interesting discussion & ideas to the discussion. I will be sharing this one. Thanks Jeff & James.

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

Absolutely fascinating! I would love to hear more of what James has to say about Tolkien. Or anything else, for that matter. Great interview Jeff.

[@sunnirhiona2563]

So many congruencies with what is my experience as a lifelong investigator/artist (my Spiritual process) The synchronicities with present time downloads of light/information/frequencies are so heartening and that you finish with Steiner and Michael Collins! Edgar Cayce felt disturbed because Spiritual trasmission said that Russia would be the saving of the world. Loved the info about Malachy, the ex Jesuit. The religious that I have come across are all terrified of death and do not realize that they are matierialist when it comes to the crunch. The deity is money and keeping safe. Love you both. Heartfelt thanks.

[@HolyCowMoments]

As always, a most illuminating discussion. I appreciate you both 🌹

[@bernadettegouviea4710]

In one of the visites of the Virgin Mary To the 3 Kid's in Fatima Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco She asked to pray for the Conversion of Russia . I grow up learning about it.. Virgin Mary Rogai por nos Protect us and The world From the ivol Men that runs that Country..

[@davidsillars3181]

An interesting and quite widespread phenomenon. Apparitions of deities in the sky are reported both in Tibet and India. After the passing of one of the highly regarded Lamas in Tibet recently unusual rainbow lights appeared as a large robed figure seated in meditation position. The photographs that I saw were quite compelling. The Virgin Mary might be a manifestation of the anima or Great Mother symbol appearing in symbolic form in different ways according to the cultural disposition of the experiencers. Might the degree of the intensity of belief explain the differing experiences of the participants at Fatima? It certainly suggests the image is arising from the collective unconscious, the age old dreamer of dreams and faultless prognosticator.

[@lexlutherk1ng97]

Are you able to share these photographs?

[@lc2c177]

Please add links researching these

[@lc2c177]

I like this idea that enough people believing one thing results in a manifestation of the phenomenon. Someone posed the question of “how come we don’t see nuclear bombs being exploded” for example enough people believed it would happen during Cold War..just a q to the idea that we could materialise these phenomenon from our mind..vs whether whatever it is, uses our collective subconscious to decide on the experiences.

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

Middle East too.. Look up " our lady of zeitoun egypt"

[@MariaAlmeida-kp5xb]

👏❤🙏

[@vicproulx5625]

"We live in a magical universe, and we just spent the last three centuries pretending that we didn’t." - Gordon White

[@greggoreo6738]

Brilliant quote. Gregg

[@Overprotected1111]

Yes!!! Beautiful!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🪄 ❤️‍🔥

[@jammetmalibu]

That's a good idea, a spiritual awakening is needed to solve our problems. We can't save ourselves with a selfish attitude because of our fear of each other.

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

The petals falling was interesting to hear as this is something that often happened in Marcello bacci's gatherings when he would have the voices of deceased people speaking through his radio to their family members. Also I believe this is a common story told about the death of the Buddha too..that petals appeared out of nowhere and fell down on his body

[@Renata-4love]

"and then, showered flowers..." 🙏

[@marchanson711]

Please do a part two on this issue. Thank you.

[@HansSchmidtUnfoldingStone]

Mr. James Tunney's brilliance always leaves me blind for a few days. Thanks for the light.

[@GildaLee27]

I really like listening to Tunney speak. He is among my favorite NTA guests. His insights are really true and helpful. I would like to put it out there that the Vatican is not really banning the Latin Rite mass. The instruction as I understood it was that churches may continue to hold traditional Latin Rite masses, but may not devote *all* a church's masses to the Latin mass. In brief, the local vernacular should not be replaced by all Latin masses but a parish can have both. And since we're on the subject of the Latin mass, many Anglo-Catholic congregations of Episcopalians in the USA are celebrating the mass in Latin these days so that's another option if one is interested. Lastly, I think Tunney really gets PKD in a spiritual and mytho-poetic way. Peace to all. Thank you so much, Jeffrey!

[@GildaLee27]

@@MaryGwenDungan Here is the statement from our local bishop from July 2021 on this topic: “Last Friday, July 16, the Holy Father issued guidelines regarding the use of the Traditional Latin Mass, known as the Extraordinary Form. We will need time to properly study the document and its implications. In the meantime, I grant permission to those priests and parishes that already have my authorization to offer Masses according to the 1962 Missal to continue to celebrate them, following the norms of the Church. The Holy Father’s constant concern throughout his papacy has been the care of souls and preserving the unity of the Church. These are my goals as well. I want to assure those faithful in the Diocese of Oakland who find sustenance and the consolation of Jesus Christ in the ancient form of worship that your spiritual needs will continue to be met." I haven't heard of any update on the progress of the Bishop's studying and it wouldn't be surprising if it went on for some time. Plenty of other RC bishops are treating this issue in a similar way. Incidentally, in addition to Latin, mass is regularly said in several other languages besides English including Spanish, Tagalog, and Vietnamese at the Cathedral and in parishes around this diocese. Although there are Roman Catholic and Anglo-Catholic churches who offer a Latin mass, I think it would be fair to say they are not very well attended. That is why they have been cancelled (not banned) in some places. Keep in mind the RC church has a severe shortage of priests to begin with. Finding enough priests even to say mass in the local vernacular is often a real challenge. So that's two major challenges to churches regularly having the mass in Latin. Peace to all.

[@Royalroadtotheunc]

Look up an article from Dec. 18, 2021 by NCR Online. The title is "Pope Francis approves further restrictions on Latin Mass to ensure adherence to Vatican II."

[@1kenneth1985]

@@MaryGwenDungan greetings - not sure if this posted link will be allowed to remain, but it will try anyway (reg LatinM).

[@1kenneth1985]

@@MaryGwenDungan Got taken down/removed. That was swift. Pl try latinmassdir and then the dot and then an org. have to get creative. saluti - C

[@MariaSilva-uz3hs]

Thank you so much for your brilliant discussion about Fátima. With gratitude from Portugal 🌹

[@amandayorke481]

Loved it. As a historian of Chinese art & culture I studied Guanyin, Chinese Goddess of Mercy, who has the same physical attributes as Fatima & is in Macau worshipped as both Guanyin (in her incarnation as Tian Hou, Goddess of the Sea) & Our Lady of Compassion, Mary Mother of God.

[@pbohearn]

As was the Virgin of Guadalupe a modification of the indigenous goddess to get recruitment up for Catholic indoctrination by the colonizing power of Spain. It worked, as until then, the indigenous I(a matricarchical society) couldn’t relate at all to the dude nailed to a cross who was a god to be worshipped. Too gruesome. Uh, yeah. They much preferred Mother Earth, and Virgin de G’s cape was rich in nature symbols. As well, Portugal, the 1st European empire, engineered the same hybrid in Macau for its recruiting efforts. Mary was elevated in the Church because she is good with marketing to cultures that value female energy, principles and values. There was no Divine female principle represented,so she got a promotion. Born without sin, virgin birth, never died, just assumpted lol to heaven. Cool!

[@amandayorke481]

@@pbohearn I don't really see it, in the end, as some sort of competition. We understand the workings of neither the universe nor our own minds, but archetypal female figures are so strong that they keep reasserting themselves even when the prevailing voices are masculinised - the dominant zeitgeist, if you will.

[@africanvikingmakers]

Articulate, moving, knowledgeable, and extraordinarily well-read... hugely inspiring discussion, as always with James Tunney... great hosting too from JM, again, as always... I echo the chap who commented on a previous post that I'd be up for buying a pint (or 3 or 4!😜) with either of these fine chaps! Would rank up there with my all-time wishlist of people to spend time with... many thanks both for creating such a rich dialogue... with so many branches to explore... I particularly appreciate the inclusion of the books referred to in the video, if I had a suggestion it would be to include these in the write up notes for each video.... (not wishing to make work, but I do get so enthralled in the discussion, that sometimes I forget to write them down as I go...) ... once again, thank you for your work

[@andanssas]

54:55 if the "final element" is predicted to be in Kiev, could this also relate to the great interest and caution foreign governments/entities have in dealing with Ukraine?

[@shanedavidspangler]

Thank you both. Looking forward to following the continuation of this conversation.

[@macgregordespitethem]

Fascinating as always...compulsive viewing...thankyou both...best wishes to all from scotland

[@wendysalter]

If we look at the key players in our current conflicts and take off their masks, I think we would see the opposite. Those who promote themselves as our leaders are leading us down the wrong path (greed for control and hatred and war) and those they point to as the enemy are standing firm against them and in so doing represent a force against evil, a role model for us all. If we are too afraid to stand for goodness and kindness, truth and honesty, we are lost to these evil forces. James is a rare spiritual visionary.

[@marthaspillman9988]

What a brilliant man! Thank you both for this discussion!

[@suzanorgeborovas3795]

James Tunney, what a beautiful speech to promote one consciousness with ‘rose’ filled historicism. Could you get into the influence of Sufism further in one of your talks next time.

[@Myohomoto]

Yes!!

[@susankelly5976]

As a ,Dub, I love listening to James In his wonderful Dublin Accent and his knowledge and WIsdom inspires

[@martinrea8548]

Great win last Sunday. Up the Dubs!

[@patriciablue2739]

Thank you for posting. I’m so grateful to you both.

[@thomasbullock6934]

This really tied all my beliefs together. REMARKABLE! Thanks!

[@annohalloran6020]

Jeff has the nicest most contagious smile on the KZbins.

[@georgehernandez6595]

I wonder if James Tunney knows of the more recent lady apparition contact with prophecies of Chris Bledsoe?! I’d love to to hear him tie this all together with this more contemporary contact event with the lights in the sky! Great episode ✨

[@yesnomaby]

Was just about to say the same thing! so crazy that the pope takes him seriously & has been in touch with him via Diana pasuka. Even tho he wasnt contacted by V merry but Hathor the fixical manifestation of gods love aka the eye of Rah, acording to mr Bledsoe. My favorite rabbit hole and not to wel known.

[@lolavanenburg1647]

I’ve been to Fatima with my Mum and family members, when I was about fifteen..We even visited the houses the three children lived in..Such a special spiritual occasion for all of us🙏🏼

[@kathrynphillips3710]

Absolutely Loved this!💗 Thankyou both

[@RodCornholio]

Love for him to write about the Garabandal visions.

[@songbirdalbert1247]

Thanks again for another fascinating conversation.

[@VagabondLiving]

I found James final comment powerful. It amazes me that the world cannot act collectively and more decisively to stop the barbarism that has been taking place in Ukraine. As James says, we simply do not have the will or the tools to solve this problem on our own. We need to kick this up a notch and call upon spiritual forces to help with this horrific evil that is taking place. We have been warned.

[@gillrippingale1173]

wow! This was brilliant! Drawing into the conversation so many of the topics I love to ponder! One of my favourite guests! please come back soon...😊

[@CatD66]

Fantastic discussion as always. Please do one on Malachi Martin. 🙏

[@remmos2816]

Great presentation ! Thank you ! I really liked James's last remarks - I think it would be good if he could have a deep conversation with Putin !!!

[@taylorbaxter659]

Another FABULOUS discussion !!!!

[@lc2c177]

I think one of the most likely possibilities is Vallee’s Control System. My understanding of it is that it’s a homogenous phenomenon that provides the required experiences in order to establish a social outcome. So when you examine the effects, you could understand where it’s taking us next. This approach requires the view that it’s all the same phenomenon from mythologies, religions, to modern cases. The end question imo is whether going towards the light is the right thing after life. And the reason why it becomes NB is due to Eastern Traditions having written re Psi and benefits of Meditations. They also wrote re the after life and the astral realms (I.e Tibetan Book Of The Dead). They knew the most and had the same accounts of NDE’s, OBE’s, Psi we now know of in modern research. Their way of life is one of non engagement. Which poses the q of why is this reality such a burden to us, and if escaping reincarnation cycle is the point through this way of life, it makes you wonder, if we are in some sort of soul trap/ farm. But that offends many so no one asks the question seriously.

[@heyguysinternet]

What is “NB”?

[@lc2c177]

@@MaryGwenDungan thanks for these I’ve been looking for more on it. Though I’m not sold on reptilians, I am starting to consider that our produce is states of mind, every thought, dreams, emotions, emit waves - neural oscillations. My guess is that negative waves are denser and perhaps more of use. As we go within, live peacefully, and I’ll add the latest one which seems to be not engaging in reality as much as possible, we can liberate ourselves and exist on their plane(?). Monroe had an idea that this was also the case to some extent, that we emit what he called “loosh” and some beings fed off it. All the stories of NDE’s, psychedelic experiences where people see their dead relatives, spirit guides, have a life review and finally get stopped before going through the second light, all those stories could be part of the control system. It tells us to come back down and take care of their investment. Even apparitions, the phenomenon seems to play a similar game, where they do just enough to create situations that help evolve our history in ways we’re maximising the ying yang tug, divisions through religions and technology have sewn, emitting the loosh. Never giving us the final answers. Our default mode network, prefrontal cortex seems to have something to do with it, that’s the part that quietens along w the ego voice when we meditate and have psychedelic experiences. The early Hindus did them often to study the afterlife. But the best idea closest to what we’re seeing with modern research is The Tibetan Book Of The Dead. Only q is if we are supposed to resist the light. Cause we have ton of research where bad people also went through the first tunnel, and into the life review area etc..so if it’s so inevitable, why all the effort to try not to miss it?

[@lc2c177]

@@heyguysinternet important

[@lc2c177]

@Nec pluribus impar I’ve got it, along w Moody’s Life after Death. Still have to dive in. But I still arrive at the above from all avenues.

[@greggoreo6738]

I see your point. Labels can offend some. Gregg Oreo long Beach Ca

[@maekong2010]

I am an incorrigible skeptic, but I like Mr. Tunney. He's left me with food for thought.

[@dominicmdesouza]

34:00 I'm a Catholic who grew up with a ton of Fatima conspiracies and apocalypticism. In a few deft words, he has reframed my view of hell completely, and in a far more accurate view of the meaning of hell and the love of God. Hell is not a destination, but a stage of rejection that cannot be as definitive and eternal as God. I'm a bit blown away here. Wrestling with the problem of hell, as it is generally understood, has pushed me to a lot of study and a little prayer, and universalism is the only practical answer. The details are still key, and his comments here resolved a massive sticking point for me. Thank you!

[@BernardetteNBM]

Fascinating interview! Such a different perspective of the deeper issues we are living through!

[@cynthiabiel7714]

Concerning Satanism in the Catholic Church ( Vatican specifically).....where can I find more information on this? This is very important to know I would really appreciate any resource that you can point me towards.

[@rivkaestherkletski4184]

Beautiful art in the background, a very much needed interview

[@joecaner]

This is thought provoking stuff. Regardless of body count, the crimes of secular leaders does not excuse those of Religious leaders. Evil is as evil does sir. In other words, "You will know them by their fruits."

[@carobresler2767]

What a pleasure to listen to knowledge... intelligence....tremendous interview! Listened twice.

[@juneshasta]

A rich visual is Fellini's La Dolce Vita, where Marcello and friends drive to the outskirts of Rome for the sighting of the Madonna by two children. In pouring rain, the crowd follows the entranced children to apparitions and tears the branches and leaves from a small tree said to have sheltered the Madonna.

[@ordsmedensmening9702]

Bless you and may Gods light dress you all. Thank you for another great interview. As a Swede I now have a great reason for travelling to our backside😉 (Gothenburg)- seeking to collaborate with this great man. Love from Stockholm

[@juancarlostealdo]

Lets Pray ,after this wonderful conversation ,for LOVE PEACE AND LIGHT .Hope ,that 3 secret of Fátima does not come true.

[@K.P.777]

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

[@robintropper660]

This interview just blew me away! Malachi Martin in a light I never suspected before from listening to his traditionalist podcasters ….. respectful relationship to other spiritual traditions. Just WOW! So much more in here than any number of social media text comments can possibly do Justice to! THANK you Jeffrey Mishelove!

[@Celticcross688]

I believe hell exists in the lower dimensions.. a state of attainment level, positions of a souls evolving, and depending on a passed soul their journey, and projections of LOVE, altruism and kindness. If none of these are demonstrated in any incarnation they would slip to the lower levels to learn more about LOVE. The higher level dimensions are toward the Love of GOD the seat of God at the highest level (goodness) unconditional heavenly celestial Spiritual beings reside there, with much wisdom and knowledge of the power of the source. The WORLD we live in now is full of young souls with little knowledge, this is why we have these struggles.

[@vincentsparkes7808]

Very good and clearly explained.Thank you.

[@VirideSoryuLangley]

The obvious problem with the Mary hypothesis is that the phenomenon of the "lady of light" seems to be cross-cultural, and even to pre-date Christianity.

[@VirideSoryuLangley]

@@MaryGwenDungan If there is more than one deity, that does, by definition, negate the concept of monotheistic religion, like Catholicism. (Mary isn't supposed to be a deity, btw.)

[@andreawalker4204]

@@thursoberwick1948 naghammaddi scriptures will give you more information about Mary Magdalene . The Bible does say Mary mother of Jesus was visited by Gabrielle .

[@catherinescruggs3945]

i think there is a deeper, unified experience happening involving all these things being actual reality. They all fit together in a linear and circular epic story of our material universe, specifically Earth’s inhabitants. Because one phenomenon can be explained by the physics, chemistry or astronomy does not at all nullify the spiritual, social, historical, cultural or political explanations of the same phenomenon. We as a whole being need to get to that level of a more wholistic understanding of our situation to take heed to what, to me, seems to be involved in the 3rd prophecy and how to handle it. It seems the first and second world wars corresponded to the timing of revealing the 1st annd 2nd prophecies. And, is not the third

[@cynthiabiel7714]

The parting of the Red Sea has some explanation....I think the waters just become lower...or recede.....but the Timing is significant....

[@caperuza333]

Fascinating guest and topic. What a wealth of knowledge. One observation: I would not necessarily disassociate the appearance of the Virgin of Fatima with an alien spaceship. If as Jesus said, his father has many mansions, then, there can be messengers of the Father, from other worlds.

[@phillipbernhardt-house6907]

This is a feast of things to consider, certainly...I am in absolute agreement with some of what James said here, which I would put forth as a critique of many of the conclusions and methods suggested by some of the other guests on The New Thinking Allowed at various points--and guests who I respect, admire, and enjoy, no less! I could absolutely elaborate on that further, if anyone cares to inquire, but if not, I'll just leave it be for now. There's many other points in all of this that may have wider relevance for religious traditions and movements that he did not mention, either--again, a matter on which I could elaborate, but will leave be for now. However, I do have a further point, and a potentially interesting one in relation to the last matter that James brought up regarding the death of Michael Collins (whose place of assassination is somewhere I visited while in Ireland on one of my forays west of Cork City, where I spent the majority of my time living there for five years), and how those in jail opposed to Collin's faction were doing the Rosary upon hearing of his death. This is something I think is not entirely distinctive towards, but is certainly very characteristic of, the traditional viewpoints of Irish culture that most likely extend back into the pre-Christian period, but in some senses are carried on within Christianity as well (in ideal most often and far too infrequently in practice) in the form of the teaching "love thy enemy." Within the warrior cultures and traditions of Ireland, there is an inherent respect for one's adversaries on the field of battle, and an understanding that they are people just like one and one's allies are, they have lives and families and people who love them, and that it should be a cause for mourning when any of them fall, and that one earns no respect by treating them disrespectfully in death even if one is responsible for those deaths. There are battlefield elegies, so to speak, for one's own fallen comrades, but these are also sung (at least in medieval literature) for one's enemies, and in fact some of the most extensive and evocative Old and Middle Irish poetry embedded within the great prosimetric epics of medieval Ireland are of this specific sort. It's something I have found to be one of the most beautiful and important aspects of Irish tradition, and something which we should all take our cues from now. Just because someone is our "enemy" or opposition--no matter in what way--we should think of them as our "worthy adversaries," and though we may be in a situation where we must oppose them, even in active warfare or other such situations, they are no better or worse than we are. This, I think, is the difference between what should be understood as a true warrior--someone who understands the real prices of sacrifice on behalf of one's people in warfare, both for oneself and one's comrades as well as for one's enemies--and a mere trained soldier, who is indoctrinated into the viewpoint we most often associate with warfare (and increasingly so after the American Civil War, and most decisively so after World War I) of dehumanizing one's enemies so that one becomes desensitized to causing their deaths on the battlefield in large numbers and increasingly horrific ways. The United States has reached the pinnacle of that in World War II with the use of the atomic bombs as a measure to try and end the war with Japan "quickly and cleanly" and with fewer casualties (it was hoped) than what might occur if the war went on another year and house-to-house fighting in an armed invasion might be the strategy that was adopted. But, other nations have done it as well, both within active warfare and outside of it, and those tactics of dehumanization are as insidious within modern politics as they are in modern warfare. Anyway...definitely not just food for thought in this latest interview, but a feast for contemplation! Thank you, Jeffrey, and thanks very much indeed, James! :)

[@phillipbernhardt-house6907]

@@thursoberwick1948 Certainly! Though, it's not an isolated incident in Irish history, myth, or practice that such was the case with him.

[@alvaro3847]

Fantastic interview, ideas, and discussion!

[@mickdaly2778]

Thanks so much from Éire 🍀☘️ your greatest episode yet!

[@manuelalayo511]

Thank you, gentlemen

[@JoDo777]

Thank you very much for your wonderful channel!

[@binawood9704]

So interesting, wanted to go on listening..,, more please ! Thank you ..

[@johngrunwell6101]

I'm wondering if Tunney has thoughts (or awareness) of "ufologist" Ray Stanford's take on the Fatima prophecies. It's a very unique perspective worth investigating.

[@lc2c177]

Please add link?

[@johngrunwell6101]

@@lc2c177 I don't know of any links - it's in a book he wrote quite a number of years ago. He claimed to be channelling ET entities' information.

[@rnkim2564]

19:19 he brings up sky covered with clouds as in ufo reports. 31:18 he states many reports that it could be ufo but it doesn't explain the prophecies. he mentions ... von dannikan ... 109:51 did you listen to podcast?

[@anthony-kelly]

​@@lc2c177 You could try typing the name of the author and the word "Fatima" into a search engine and see what results seem to match.

[@Romariotsy]

thank you and james. That was inspiring and rich conversation.

[@jasondevon481]

That was very interesting, thank you for getting Mr Tunney on for his insight, he's a highly knowledgeable man with a lot to say. I enjoyed this video a lot and so did my wife, thanks.

[@ReadMr]

Wow! What a brilliant interview! Many thanks gentlemen.

[@barneybearandlove6665]

James Tunney is speaking through my heart! Brilliant. watched this one video 6 times so far.

[@marycandullo526]

THANK YOU BOTH!

[@MercuriusHibernicus]

fascinating discussion, especially the spiritual truth that violence creates endless ripples into the spiritual state that creates more violence, but y'know James what we all want to hear is an hour long talk on the prophesy centred on what is or will be happening in Russia, Ukraine and Kiev... is Russia the 'hope of the world'?

[@docelky]

Story of Fatima has always amazed me since my young catholic boys days but when I heard Chris Bledsoe's story the parallels were unremarkable especially with "the lady" I immediately thought of Fatima and other apparitions of Mary. Even the Bull that showed up was seen in other apparitions. It was interesting to see how people in power in the government and the church wanted to know what the "the lady" said to Chris and how they wanted to be close to him because she choose to appear to him. I truly believe there is higher dimensional/spirit realm and beings that exist over our plane of existence and they are trying to influence us either for "good" or "bad"

[@martinmasey7453]

What a fantastic Teacher James is. Thankyou, Gentlemen.

[@kenkorczak]

Truly another terrific discussion with the brilliant James Tunney. The only thing I found missing was putting Fatima in context with the details and nature of the many other Marian apparitions that have occurred across the centuries -- an excellent book I strongly suggest is by the "Father of Remote Viewing," Ingo Swann. In his book, The Great Apparitions of Mary, he details 22 incidents of these cases starting with the Lady of Guadeloupe in 1531 and up to the incredible events of Bayside, New York, in the 1970s. It's a terrific read! When you put Fatima in context with the 21 other events Ingo describes, I think everything that happened in Portugal, including the prophesies, is seen in a better light. But I would also urge Jefferey to talk to UFO experiencer Chris Bledsoe -- his famous case includes a classic and stunningly dramatic Marian-type element.

[@kenkorczak]

Yes, I did see that. Great interview.@@nickthelick

[@IAm-ur9cq]

in sum, we still dont know for sure what the third secret is

[@chiclesirico2580]

This is not the first time that there’s a message for us to pray the rosary. It happened in 1830 (Miraculous Medal) On Mary’s first apparition to St. Catherine Labouré, in 1858 at Lourdes, the incident being discussed at Fatima, in 1973 (Akita, Japan): Our Lady warns St Agnes that we ought to “Pray very much the prayers of the Rosary.”

[@rickfool1452]

hey Jeffery how do you remain so joyous & peaceful? please tell mem

[@NewThinkingAllowed]

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[@doctorcofrin851]

Great episode! ❤ Thsnl you!! 🙏 I love Father Malachi Martin! ❤Art Bell finally found out what that third secret was, but Father Malachi swore him to secrecy. He, Malachi, intimated that Russia must convert. Dr. Mishlove, where can we find your interview with Father Malachi Martin? Brilliant and beautiful man. I’m sure that he greeted Art Bell when Art departed on Friday the 13th, April, 2018. Just like Art to depart on Friday the 13th! WE ARE AT A PIVOTAL TIME ON PLANET EARTH! Keep spreading good thoughts! This will be a very different planet by 2030. ❤

[@NewThinkingAllowed]

I don't think the old radio interview I did with Malachi Martin in 1973 or 1974 is still available.

[@doctorcofrin851]

Oh gosh! I’m crossing my fingers that somehow they will appear! What a gift that would be if they were found! Thank you 🙏 ❤

[@elianamatys1290]

Muchas gracias por esta maravilllosa entrevista... Saludos desde Argentina!!!

[@brendanlea3605]

Thank you both 🙏

[@lindacarroll6849]

Thank you both for sharing 💕

[@AdamCook138]

I 💜 NTA!🎉 Can someone direct me as to where to purchase one of the old yin Yang hoodies.... I've been fighting addiction for 20yrs and my finances hadn't been in order. I've always resonated with the rainbow yin Yang. Thanks for the concept Jeff.🙏✨💖

[@hara3435]

Old programmes - the bane of us all. press Del alt & esc together I wish you freedom 💖 & Love

[@mewa8488]

I can't help but notice that there is a stark contrast between the sides- sciencism seems very uncreative- almost parasitic and society based on such a culture can not survive in the long term I think. There is hope.

[@BernardetteNBM]

Would love to continue understanding the deeper and mystical side of the world calamities we are experiencing.

[@forrestcavin1802]

Thank you so much Dr. Mishlove for what you do sir. Yourself as well Mr Tunney