In conversation with suspended ANC secretary-general Ace Magashule

The 2021 municipal election results have been the worst so far for the ANC, with the party getting below 50 percent of the vote. The ANC garnered 53.91% of the votes in the 2016 local government elections, compared to the impressive 61 percent in 2011. Suspended ANC secretary-general Ace Magashule weigns in on various matters related to the organisations.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika, DSTV channel 405 for more details.

[@Thithiboya]

He’s accused number 13 but he’s the person of interest when it comes to media . But the real accused number one, remains in peace. Dots don’t add up here as lies are always louder than the truth. Mdluli is pushing that narrative the way he conducts this interview.

[@mondlindlovu6093]

Very good question why we focus on accussed 13 what about the first 12 accused

[@gideonmosia]

He is also a sent thumaminions that thabo must go back to singing

[@Thithiboya]

@@gideonmosia 😂😂😂😂

[@takaadams9156]

Accused No1 has not disclosed how he funded his campaign for Presidency and yet the ANC is broke. This man wont win the next election and he will be haunted after he leaves office,like what they have done to Zuma,mark my words!

[@darlingtonmachilar6745]

Is it a must to always emphasize the fact that he's a suspended ANC SG??

[@royalmarang2688]

Not a must in my opinion but a known fact....jst like him stl referring to former pres zuma .....as President Zuma.

[@stubromac2711]

He’s just a sophisticated skebenga and he won’t escape his fate. 😂😂🤦🏿

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

The plan to finish the ANC is from you ANC members, you failed to deliver for 27 years.

[@williamshakur8715]

ANC Will make empty promises until we all go back to meet Jesus again

[@mcandyandiswa8718]

The problem about news anchor, they don't give interviewee time to tell their side of the story in lieu they keep on posing questions that they really don't need answers of, they don't listen

[@cliffb1932]

So true 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ an it’s irritating

[@maburwanejohannes4647]

When Malema warned them that the elections should be postponed they took their empty heads and continued and ignored him because they felt he did not prepare, today here they are shocked. And an important point made by Ace was that the ANC decides when the elections are going to happen.

[@mabhodlelajj1195]

ANC was gonner lose even of elections were held next year!

[@franshuwerqhina5737]

Mr ten percent. Come to free state and see yourselves what Ace has done. He failed and ask him where's Celtic. mxm he finished free state man!!

[@philabramton7000]

SG mfowethu,the only grounded force we recognise

[@sboneloloren8605]

This Mdluli guy does not give Ace a chance to explain. Why does he keep asking questions n expect no answer

[@nkatekomathebula4756]

He was given enough time.

[@lefamokgalaka3203]

Mdluli is asking good questions, but I really don't like when he constantly interrupt Ace. Why ask and not expect an answer? Ace is supposed to tell us where R255m disappeared to? Dammit maan

[@mkdempisi]

Even his questions are not clear, he ask a question and accompany it with unnnecessary information that sounds irrelevant. He is a bad interviewer

[@abdent.5309]

Why are you stingy with volume though?

[@ndubanesol111]

ANC has over years failed to deliver services to the poor communities black townships & villages in particular. These guys have gone to an extent of selling water to the poor at exorbitant price using water tankers to fill jojo tanks, its sad.

[@lebraa9233]

Dear Solomon your points are very cleare as you meantion ANC Leaders failed to improved the Country all 27years what we have seen is destroying én duistering Billions money which could be used to build up homes for people whose living in bad situation they made a biggest mess óf its people should Vote ANC out stay safe peace 🤞🙏🙏❤

[@urbannet1392]

no SG it's true now the deployment wants qualifications

[@mranonymous9448]

Like the majority of South Africans we didn't vote ANC because of their infighting but because of CORRUPTION AND LACK OF SERVICE DELIVERY . People care less about their infighting, actually they are happy to see it disappear altogether. The decline has been there. It's under Zuma that they lost key metros and lost almost 10% of the national vote in 2016. Ramaphosa improved the results in 2019. Ace is just trying very hard to avoid the inevitable yellow overalls.

[@mondlindlovu6093]

Fact is you fail to admit that under CR17 5 year rule he has not turned elections around he lost even more key metro then Zuma.thats a fact

[@yayaacombi6224]

@@mondlindlovu6093 Everytime when I see a Zulu person comment on an issue involving another Zulu person I always know the answer. I don’t know how u expect Cyril to have done better in this elections during the ANC infighting n looting Tht happened in yo province. N during yo president Zumas election time thr was no infighting tht time they were happily looting all of them n no one cared Bt now this time a lot happened so do u catch the difference.

[@mondlindlovu6093]

@yayaa I'm glad you try to defend Cyril by saying there was infighting in ANC coming to these elections but you forget who is THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the current anc and therefore the buck ends with him.his failure to act decisively to stop that infighting.if your children fight in your home and you as a parent cannot solve their problems what does that say about your parenting skills .it's annoying ukuthi a Zulu person's point of view is perceived by ppl from other ethnic groups as being tribalism

[@mondlindlovu6093]

@@yayaacombi6224 if you read my comment again slowly for comprehension you will see I stated facts I was not emotional like bringing tribalism where it does not fit.numbers don't lie.state facts don't be emotional Thabo mbeki did better then Zuma at elections but now history tells us Zuma did better then CR17 in election.as bad as ppl say Zuma was but he never delivered less then 50% mark for ANC that's a fact

[@tlorisontlai8758]

Maara Mdluli's underatanding of the relationahip between the office of the premier and the municipality is so poor. Disappointing.

[@mziwandamangwane2320]

Ace is not saying anything, he is just waffling. He is just so fond of the faction he belongs to, that one comes out clearly.

[@nellymathipa1337]

True 👍

[@mranonymous9448]

ANC 2016 LGE RESULTS. JHB = 44.55%, TSHWANE = 41.22%, EKURHULENI = 48,64, NELSON MANDELA BAY = 40..92. All 4 declined to under 50% during the "more popular " Zuma according to ACE.

[@MsVgm]

Thabo is suppressing the 800 mil Shanduka deal...

[@musakam]

Why South African journalists are not that intelligent, your job is to read between the lines. I am not from South Africa, and I am neutral, the case is political.

[@chrissM196]

Ace for President in 2022 Viva

[@atlanticautolek6659]

be patient with time!!!! something wrong with your head 27years and you talking about time.

[@ROARSOAR]

Thabo you are not giving ace time to speak. You are embarrassing yourself

[@kapajita9]

They disguss me dressing up like they are small boys instead of dressing up dignified

[@godfreylatakgomo1994]

Did Ace just said people take ANC as an organisation that took people out of poverty???... The situation is worse now... People are poor bro

[@katlehokomeke]

What a waste of time.

[@bigd5745]

Zuma was the downfall of the anc

[@yayaacombi6224]

Big Time.

[@mariusmaritz9911]

He is answering questions like Zuma does - talking around the fact - bulls----r .

[@molatelofelix7084]

Time will tell if ace is still a member of the ANC. He is off rails.

[@CHIX9351]

The audio on all your videos are very low

[@MDUTHABEDE]

Fabricated cases never win

[@lindanizikhali-ceoplaytyme5867]

Please do call again Ace about the Case

[@TM30434]

most people in the Free State do not respect this man, he did a lot of unethical things

[@patmdoda9331]

False. Whites and Ramaphosa cabal don't respect him bur people do

[@eliteentertainment3301]

Like what?

[@patmdoda9331]

e.g.

[@vuyombende8708]

You can't even blame Ramaphosa Ace it's look like you there for Promoting Zuma chief witches wrong

[@patmdoda9331]

Ramaphosa is also a bloody fool

[@rockybilboa6136]

So he's lying about Shanduka's(Ramaphosa) R800m

[@rockybilboa6136]

Wake the fack up

[@thatomotalaote]

Everytime listen to ta Ace, l wonder how can be led by such leaders??? He wqs part of the system that elected the current leadership... in all his interviews he blames the current leqdership. If he was such a good why was he overlooked by president Mandela and Mbeki to premier???

[@Buja3d]

😅 😅 😅 The way Ace is stressing that "We've lost, its the ANC, they mustn't do blame game" 😂 😂 😂

[@samuelkheitsane]

Why are you giving thugs airtime?

[@vume7722]

I agree with ACE ANC is the vehicle that was meant to unite South Africans and combat Tribalism and Racism in our land. Ace God is with you, one day you will defeat your adversaries.

[@danielo4720]

Why are they still giving this guy all this media attention he must just go away along with the Anc we don't need people like him

[@nkululekozulu8072]

All the best Dr Ace

[@bakergovender3291]

Which university sold the Doctorate degree to Ace. These universities that sell these degrees to these criminals politician should be investigated.

[@christinevandermerwe5660]

Please leave him be now. He is old old old news!!

[@thembabloemfontein4807]

He said nothing😔

[@leroyzwane2097]

All of anc is rubbish the not corrupt fail to face & stop the corrupt and worse defend them

[@zikode9970]

Ace must stop this tendency of respecting Ramaphosa. It is evident that Ramaphosa is pushing Ace out of the ANC so he can install someone who will bow to his narrow selfish interests. Ace must push for the trial to begin so he xan expose how his case is politically motivated.

[@mkdempisi]

Yes Ace is wasting time, 2024 is around the corner, he got come clean early so when 2024 comes people know who he is

[@coolercat4027]

Ace started the push when he first undermine Cyril's leadership by saying Cyril and his team are not the real ANC. That was the first hard bullet that caused division and factionalism. He was bitter and refuse to accept the Nasrec outcome. A disciplined leader would encourage cadres irregardless of the candidate they supported to rally behind the pronounced leaders but he chooses to instigate people to undermine Ramaphosa instead. He should have waited for the second round to challenge and remove Ramaphosa through another congress but he's now disgruntled

[@dwmaphosa8756]

Mdluli is disruptive to the visitor, very bad presenting. NEWZROOM RELEASE THIS MAN

[@thokozanisikhosana5846]

Mdluli doesn't have manners is a disruptive. Get rid of him

[@rickmorty7284]

Ahh this guy. He says that the priority for South Africans is not only service delivery, but the unity of the ANC??? We don't give a rats ass about the unity of the ANC because a lot of our people have not had the kind of education that will equip them to understand that stuff in the first place. So how could they honestly care about that?? He keeps centralizing the ANC above delivering to the people. The ANC is an organization that has been given the mandate to deliver services. That's all. And they have failed dismally at that.

[@santyduka5743]

Allow SG to answer questions plz

[@sachuaboo4518]

suspended and corrupt SG

[@makondelelerathogwa3719]

Y this ssg has pen, books n papers ... 😀

[@rockybilboa6136]

Because he's not stupid

[@siyandangxangane4909]

Some South African journalists are horrific. Please just allow our SG to talk.

[@williamshakur8715]

Talk about bullshit

[@kgomotsoseepe9186]

This Mdluli guy seemed to not want Ace 's views to be fully ventilated so that we do not apprehend well his answers to the questions put to him

[@vuyombende8708]

No Ace we know you will speak negative about our President but we don't care Ramaphosa he's our President

[@regosegoe3340]

The presenter is asking critical question, Problem is that he doesnt even allow the SG to answer

[@craigsmall]

What you talking about, Ace was talking for 2 mins straight per question saying nothing.

[@lancelotthemba8252]

True.am a foreigner but I can tell you that am.prepared to die for Zuma like south africans.its people like you Ace to stand for the original ANC.Zuma is not getting any younger its people like you to carry his legacy and ideology through.in most cases if you are a leader its not what you do but agenda and what you say that is important.some of Zumas ideals will be realised in years to come mayb even after his departure from this earth we will always no why the man was being persued left ,right and centre.we are political conscious we may not necessarily be fed what the media wants us to believe.the aim is simple to make Zuma a devil in the eyes of majority but I think they jave failed dramatically.By arresting him they thought they are burying him when infact they planted him.So now in south african politics there will always be a Zuma factor to consider all the time.

[@vagotora]

Pap interview, jam packed opening question which is not followed through. the interview has no direction, I'm disappointed.

[@ncamsilezwane5746]

Bad law 😛

[@nomngcefe.103]

The future president of South Africa

[@luu4448]

Hire a sound engineer ffs 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@bigd5745]

Ace how can you afford Hodus on your meager pay ?????

[@anthonyanthony8460]

this thief knows his shit

[@verbalsoulfree]

Great interview ntate 😊

[@molatelofelix7084]

ANC doesn't have SG in this man. The law It's good because it deals with corruption.

[@unisatouchtouch2168]

Ace is guilty iyoooh mara madala..

[@lwandlezondi9658]

A true definition of pathetic journalism.

[@kgothatso1968]

This was the most underwhelming interview I’ve watched in ages. Thabo just seemed completely unprepared. The poor quality of his questions and knowledge of the subject matter made Ace seem smart and somewhat of a victim. It takes a LOT to do that.

[@mightylove]

Why do they keep interviewing him? He is suspended for heaven sake.

[@ngcenganikhumalo2750]

Mdluli go back to singing love songs ,you don't know what you doing 😩😩😡

[@busterasmal4506]

This mduli has a big freakin mouth. His job is to ask questions and let the person answer. Hes acting like a judge in a court of law. His bosses must remind hi. His questions are too long drawn. Rubbish

[@joborensdlamini2085]

Amen honourable

[@zodwadlamini4213]

Is this Ace he look diffirent he gainef weight

[@shakeswamoafrica8825]

Thabo Mdluli is a pathetic journalist.....poor skills of interviewing....its better he returns to Joyous Celebration and compose music...he is an embarrassment...it is obvious that he holds a particular narrative..

[@andrewmngoma7624]

SG is right qualifications don’t matter look at Hlaudi Motsoeneng former CEO of SABC during his time SABC WAS doing exceptional well. Thabo your argument point is not well thought

[@mightylove]

Hlaudi doing well at sabc?? 🤣😂🤣 I really need to know what you are smoking.

[@andrewmngoma7624]

Come the man introduced 80% local content , introduced people to get money for song of the year metro awards winners get money, the staffing had 1 year contract he changed that to 3 years, new studios where introduces. That is the same time that South African music especially hip hop was booming mind you local content was emphasised and it worked. There’s a lot more don’t be fooled by news reports. The man made SABC a lot of money during his time it’s a fact I’m not just taking out of my head

[@andrewmngoma7624]

He didn’t leave SABC he was removed with that being said all other things that happened when he was removed is not his fault, he wasn’t running away the man was removed because h lied about his qualifications and he gave himself a raise/ bonus 😂 which SABC could afford in anyway at that time. But the man was doing his job and it was proper.

[@sibonisopatricnkosi2579]

Very disrespectful journalist

[@mduduzihadebe3519]

I like ACE

[@welcomegugu7596]

Sadly he was interrupted as he was bringing the fact about white people occupying key strategic positions without the prerequisite qualifications. Hhai eyyy Mdluli kanti what narrative were you mandated to portray here?

[@busterasmal4506]

Voetsak. Hamba lalla wenah

[@Mazwi]

Mdluli is atrash jurno

[@simphiwemathibela3579]

This guy is a terrible Interviewer

[@albertsibia7266]

We support you ACE everything will be fine god will help us raise the ANC back

[@yayaacombi6224]

🤣🤣we now as stupid as u, no anc will rise.

[@ncamsilezwane5746]

You belong to the history Ace we’re tired of people like you holding us hostage for taking place in the struggling. We can’t allow this happen you’re doing exactly what the apartheid government was doing to the black people that is why you will be voted out.

[@sellothage4188]

I believe is as a results of the presidence focus more on new world order and vaccines, than more important issues, the wellbeing of the citizens.

[@rajo5892]

True

[@willieneluheni2102]

And part of the president's mandate is to destroy the ANC and the credibility of any leaders that are resisting the new world order. They needed ace out, it's only now with magashule out of the top 6 that Rama can get some bass in his voice. It's the so called "corrupt" leaders that are fighting for the ordinary south Africans. Rama doesn't care about us.

[@MeloQhali]

The only illegal, incompetent and inhumane thing that has, and is still, happening is everybody being against Honorable Ace Magashule for funding Black South Africans through higher education. I've gained respect, and put it on his name.

[@sthembisophewa1599]

Ace has respect for these bought journalists. He will get fed up one day and things will turn sour

[@razzmatazz1849]

Get fed up and do what? Was he forced to attend the interview?

[@sthembisophewa1599]

@@razzmatazz1849 Get fed up and do what Koko did to Xoli Mngambi. Put them in their place. He's a politician he knows his rights, he can't be forced to be interviewed. I hope that answers your question

[@gideonmosia]

I'm fed up with these bought journalists

[@ncamsilezwane5746]

Ace look around you how people are suffering under the ANC, why do you keep blaming other people that they want to finish the ANC? YOU the ANC leaders are taking South Africans for granted.

[@vucybingwa4115]

you are blind my brother you know for a fact that there are factions in ANC and the Faction led by Cyril that only keep blacks poor and only force blacks and poor south africans to take vaccine no services I respect the ANC led by Zuma and Ace that ANC had respect for South Africans and yes the Factions made it difficult for ANC to deliver services and get rid of of black people within the ANC that sold their souls for a quick buck

[@yayaacombi6224]

@@vucybingwa4115 black people can really talk nonsense so u mean to say no white person vaccinated🤦‍♀️ and u respect the ANC led by Zuma n Ace big crooks within the Anc.What Ramaphosa is doing in the ANC is no different to wat Zuma did for the Guptas. U such a lost person Shem

[@Bazos_MP]

Thabo Mdluli is a terrible interviewer, he just can't relax and let the interviewee finish answering questions, he just disrupts him almost every time

[@MightyMike55]

It’s his white bosses in his earpiece doing that

[@dandyally9983]

In The African Renaissance Thabo speaks about how philosophers like Pliny the Elder poetically described the people of Africa thus: " they have no heads but hide their eyes and mouths in their breasts. He continues to say they have a dog for a king at whose fancy they are commanded" The Europeans who had not been to Africa believed it, the media today has not changed it continues to brainwash the gullible . I have found that Africans in majority do have empty heads indeed, they believe and hate thinking differently, their self image continues to be fragile and they like compliments from other nations. It explains why they get bad leaders and lose the greats like Lumumba, Biko, Gaddafi etc. No sane man can praise Cyril and Mr eskom, those who do.so have interests and you are sitting in the dark praising a man for a good job.

[@monicakekana8044]

Where is asbestos money. You are one of them. Roten potatos

[@mxolisihlophe1718]

The constitution of the Republic states that you are innocent until proven otherwise. Why are these journalists act as if the SG is already guilty? Poor journalism at best....

[@peace6325]

Wow. As a joke I can't talk BS for 20 seconds. And there are people who can do it for an hour (only limited by the length of the interview). I am impressed.

[@sjaymabaso9391]

Thabo and Xoli are horrible interviewers they just want to please Cyril it is bad

[@trainmusicinc]

Thabo Mdluli is a nonsensical host

[@masixolesizani2895]

But Ace said it's a matter of 5 years comrades the real ANC will come back,what did he mean by that?

[@clearencesimelane661]

That's the reason why Ramaphosa showed him the door...he's too forward....if I was in Ramaphosa's shoes I'd have done same or even worse because he declared war by those words and he actually guaranteed the president that there would be no 2nd term for him....so, good riddance

[@gershommaluleke3815]

@@clearencesimelane661 I agree with Clearence, he declared war against a seating president.

[@gaobakwebakang2942]

It simply means in 5 years he'll be th president of SA with Carl Niehaus being his deputy.

[@urbannet1392]

comrades please let's fix our unity

[@tommagoveni8869]

Magashule and Zuma's time is over, and they shouldunderstand that their lies over, and people are now tired ofthèm. Let them go and play with their grandchildren.

[@siviwetshongweni4215]

Shame, this man is old

[@mondlindlovu6093]

Some people have presume Ace guilty even before any competent court have judged him.

[@mabhodlelajj1195]

The guy is corrupt,he is a criminal that one.

[@warrengreen8711]

It is shameful as the talent tenth of South Africans are so corrupt and shortsighted in their transformation from apartheid. It hurt my heart that the legacy of the great Oliver Tambo and the many other visionary freedom fighters are totally taken for granted. I hope the country will turn around over these next 25 years. Expropriation Bill is a key component for the future.

[@Macedonia270]

There are fewer than 500,000 whites who own any land.... most of these are subject to loans from the banks..... there are 50 million blacks in South Africa.....50 million does not go into 500 thousand.... You are in for a very rude awakening.... The idea of taking from "rich" people and thereby making all "our people" wealthy is a pipe dream..... Mathematics 101; 100% of Zero is equal to?

[@dandyally9983]

@@Macedonia270 That is a flawed argument, it may be true that taking from whites won't solve the problem. In the same way protecting the wealthy will only worsen it, changes have to be made.

[@mosalethoba5267]

@@Macedonia270 so it's a joke that that 500000 owns majority of the land and they're eating alone whilst the masses are hungry .

[@Macedonia270]

@@dandyally9983 I agree changes have to be made.... The argument however seems to suggest that all white people inherited property from their parents. I can tell you, we were dirt poor, I inherited NOTHING.... and no one that I know inherited anything either.... I worked for everything that I own, most of the money that I earned was earned outside of South Africa because of affirmative action and BBBEE... But it feels like the EFF says I stole everything that I have? It is simply NOT true... VERY FEW whites inherited the properties that they own...

[@Macedonia270]

@@mosalethoba5267 You are wrong....Maybe 10,000 whites and the STATE own the majority of the land.... The rest of the whites own the houses they live in and they did NOT inherit the property... 99% of them bought their own property. It is a lie that all whites have generational wealth. Maybe 0,1% of them do, the rest worked for what they have..

[@xolanimbele6948]

Thabo very useless how could you invite SG but hardly gives him a chance to speak, keeping say Suspended ANC Secretary but lastly you call him Ace Magashule, this so called ANCHORS of 405 I'm hopeless.

[@nsikagcabashe]

Mdluli is a terrible journalist 🚮🚮

[@Hubert677]

Why was Ace's former pa harrased by the FBI on his case? What business does the FBI have in South African politics?

[@nndanduleni]

The anc is doing the oppressing now

[@mkdempisi]

Yyeeerrr this journalist ayivakali mahn,how does he asks questions? Haybo we can't even understand questions how are we supposed to listen to what Ace has to say, ayy mahn wasting our data

[@muzislingshots1413]

Something need to be done with y'all sound. It is the lowest sound on news channels