Next Dimension Podcast - Quest 3 - Valve Brain Interface & More!

Welcome to the 7th epiosde of the brand new Next Dimension Podcast! Every Saturday we will be talking about the most exciting topics in VR & AR! Today we will talk about the Quest 3 and what we believe it will look like, Valve's Brain Interface (Yes, they are building the NerveGear) and a couple of new games on Quest!
Today's Line-Up: Tetiana, Steve, Anthony, Sebastian
Poll:
When do you think Quest 3 will launch? VOTE: etc.ch/KhjP
Tetiana's channel (Disco VR): / @discovrtetiana
Anthony's channel (VR 365): / @vr3654
Anthony's website: www.vrgamerankings.com/
Steve's channel (VR Flightsim Guy): / force3d
Gary's website: www.garywalkden.com/
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
06:05 Steve's Week
12:20 Tetiana's Week
15:58 Anthony's Week
18:55 Seb's Week
29:35 Authentikit.Org - Flight Control System
38:53 Custom Home Mapper - Quest SideQuest
50:45 Gorn on Quest
1:03:38 Yupitergrad on Quest
1:12:08 Valve Brain Computer Interface
1:40:55 Quest 3 Discussion
2:17:25 Poll Results
2:20:50 Tell One Person Now!
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[@mixedrealityTV]

How did you like The Next Dimension Podast so far?

[@Muckylittleme]

On BCI. The whole point of most entertainment is to see someone else's creation not from our own mind. We live virtual reality in our own minds every day, it is called imagination.

[@buggylama]

@ 1:29:00 or so: Subsituting brainscanning for artistry is not only an insult to artistry and all the potential it might have for real engagement with the art. It is more like corporate focus group baloney that I think we have all seen over time does not produce much in the way of interesting content.

[@buggylama]

Dear Sebastian, real LSD is better. Don't be afraid to have your own experiences.

[@buggylama]

Good luck voting for a party you like in the Western world!!! I would vote for Maduro in Venezuela.

[@buggylama]

Viva Chavismo!!!!

[@beowulfschmidt6031]

I am mesmerized by Tetiana's jellyfish lamp.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Oh lots of people admire her lamp! :)

[@ChristopherJGould]

Thanks again for the show, it is *easily* the best VR content on KZbin (and other podcast media). I have said this before, but you have somehow managed to put a team together who are informed without being irritating. [All of my friends are magicians (!) with zero interest in VR, or I would be getting them all to sign up]. Great show, really appreciated, and inevitable that figures will grow (it already stands at nearly 8 thousand views!) There is one topic that I would like you to cover - one that I think is of *real* interest to the VR community. What I am talking of is the security of Virtual Desktop going forward. 98% of my time is spent streaming PCVR using VD - without this, I would have never given in, signed a deal with the devil, and bought a Quest 2. Without it, my Q2 is a paperweight. Recently, I received an email from the overlords saying that I had to validate my 'developer status' by giving FB my credit card details (something I am not prepared to do!). So, I am concerned that by not doing so, I will be frozen out of VD at some point. I did post on the VD discord, and someone answered saying that if I had already signed up, I would still be able to download from Sidequest. He may well be right, but I feel sure FB will be working to close this loophole. I think an authoritative and decisive take on this would quell the anxieties of those who rely on VD and wish to continue using Sidequest.

[@OnlyVRBabe]

I absolutely agree with you.In my opinion Freality Has become Arrogant an stale (Nathies Influence) This is the best VR show on KZbin.

[@ChristopherJGould]

@@OnlyVRBabe Well, I did not want to point any specific fingers, as all of these guys give up their own time for very little return. But, Yeah - this is the only podcast I watch now, and the only one that does not get under my skin in some way.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Hi Chris, so glad that you enjoy the podcast so much! I also enjoy so much making it and I think you guys can feel that we all love it! I also think it will grow and find a place in many VR enthusiasts hearts.. ;) For your question about VD...well...episode 2 is all about that topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2nbo6SMnrKqlZI

[@MikeslyMontague]

Perfect lucid dreaming would give you the sci-fi levels of virtual reality you're looking for. Just a few issues with it: it's not easy to perfect, it's not consistent, obviously not "multiplayer", and because it's all in your head, it doesn't leave much of a lasting impression on you. But I don't get why people say you can't feel pain in dreams; I've always felt everything in dreams that I could feel in real life, sometimes even more. Anyway, that will keep me satisfied in the meantime.

[@dmen1k345]

The Idea of making that Spitfire Flight Stick is VERY ImpressivE.Steve looks lke he is over the moon.He's got me sold.

[@AuthentiKit]

Finally Steve mentions AuthentiKit and I missed this episode of your podcast ! Thanks for the mention guys!

[@mixedrealityTV]

Steve deservers more of your gear!! :)

[@AuthentiKit]

@@mixedrealityTV I'm working on it! Throttle quadrant and trim wheel ready soon!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@mixedrealityTV haha I'll second that one Seb 😂

[@bertrandr.6183]

at 1:52:00 or so Anthony makes the point that we haven't seen Quest 2 exclusive titles that require the new hardware. There are already titles that offer better textures/extra sprites etc. on Quest 2 than Quest 1. Also, the increased operating resolution and refresh rate (if your headset has the 90hz enabled) are both Quest 2 exclusive features. Great show. Also, I do like the scene switching on the fly so we can see a larger image of who is speaking.

[@weslikestoplayguitar6767]

Valid point by Steve about trauma. Think about it, if you could play a "game" that was written directly to your brain and looked totally real where you were storming the beach of Normandy on D-day it could seriously mess a lot of people up. But then that begs the question...what are we doing in the first place? Games have been steadily becoming more realistic since day 1. The goal of video games since their inception has been to replicate reality and although pong was a quite crude representation that was nonetheless the idea. As tech improved we've continued to improve on things to make it more of a realistic representation of the real life experience. If we don't like the idea of a totally realistic simulation or find it dangerous (which It most likely would be) then why are we continuing to progress down that road of increased realism in the first place?

[@elmer7085]

TNice tutorials is the best tutorial. Simply explained to a newbie, great job man.

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

Did you ever see that (old) movie called Brainstorm starring Christopher Walken and Natalie wood? It was exactly about a technology like this, a brain interfaced new reality where you could record the experiences and feelings of other people and then download it into your own brain. In the movie storyline, they actually record the experience of a persons death and what happens to them after they die. It was a cool concept. Interestingly enough the director was Douglass trumbull, a visionary visual fx pioneer,, inventer from the time (2001, Blade Runner, Close Encounters etc).It was his vision of where he felt the not too distant future was really going to go in. I still think though a technology like this, is something we’re not ready for. It would be abused and turned into something nightmarish. Addiction to it, it being used for some pretty dark stuff, a black market that would emerge for doing awful, illegal things with it.....the mind boggles. No, no, no. The chances of experiencing a traumatic event and completely breaking your mind....no thanks. Yes, it would have an amazing positive side and the educational and entertainment and in industry...quantum leap there. But we as humans, we are too good at taking something good and using it for something very, very bad.

[@3d1stp3rs0n]

Great show! Keep it up. Quest3 2021: sure buy.

[@stephenblack4304]

He did a very good job imo. Explaining the basics step by step. English is not my first language and I have no experience in using DAWs

[@4secsharkmr352]

A very good podcast. Good cast. Interesting discussion. Thank you very much👍

[@mixedrealityTV]

You are so welcome!

[@thejustinjustin1233]

For the quest 3 I want the ipd slider back or no buy. I bought quest 2 day 1 and returned it as there was black bars on the side of the screen. Ipd setting 1 and 2 made it blurry and hard to see so if they can just put the ipd slider in I’ll be happy as can be with the product. Quest 1 was perfect for me with that slider. Also I put the glasses spacer in like people recommended it and it helped a little bit but it wasn’t ideal for me.

[@grantterry5921]

hi seb, finally star wars squadrons works at 90hz in quest 2, the update fixed everything, i can now max everything out and get a smooth 90fps in ultra what a difference feels like a new game, im gonna start missions again, how long did that take :)

[@matthewpackard2060]

I love your podcast! The 4 of your a great together. I primarily listen to it through my audio podcast service when I'm commuting. Tetiana's audio isn't very good and the volume for her is a bit too low. It'd be great if you can increase her volume a bit. Also, in a couple of the earlier podcasts, the rest of you talk over Tetiana a bit too often. I'm not sure if the talk over is because she has a softer voice that the rest of your don't notice as much or if it relates to greater lag on her connection.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

I'll be switching to a better mic next time I'm on the podcast to make sure nobody talks over me! :D

[@cyberchin]

I believe we're having a sort of quest two pro this year. Just a quest 2 with independent screens per eye, more resolution, better sound, more expensive. So it won't actually be a new generation just a product to cover the more premium market segment.

[@xxsilverxx1063]

It’s nice to know from a rift s user that shortly with the quest 3 there is going to be a device that is better than the rift s both wired and wireless that won’t break the bank. Tbh they should have done hdmi link with quest 2

[@chrisduncan3943]

My Rift S is still connected to my PC but I use one of Quest headsets with Virtual Desktop 90% of the time. They're not as comfortable as the Rift S but everything else is as good or better. BTW, in my experience Virtual Desktop works better than using the Link cable (better color etc).

[@dathyr1]

My only question is, What will be the Quest 3 price tag be??? It is now Oct 2022, It may be launched at the earliest in 2023 - summer next winter time frame. It has to be much better than what the Quest 2 is for me to be interested. It would have run PCVR games at native speeds and optics wise. I can't break away from my Direct Display Port connections with my current VR headsets to the graphics card. I am not holding my breath with Yukkaburgs concepts of what new Meta Quest headsets provide - he is more into Socializing than gaming - I am not. Thanks for the video. take care.

[@tstone9151]

I understand where Steve is coming from and I actually agree with him. But this tech is brilliant from a business perspective, I would love to have this out when I want honest feedback for my story/game that I might develop. This technology is something you see in Black Mirror lol

[@mixedrealityTV]

Yep, for honest feedback, I believe there is nothing better than that! :)

[@diedforurwins]

44:30 she’s like “uh guys, this is turning into 1984 by Orwell for what……. Flappy bird on the wall while you take a dump?”

[@vtidsvr4674]

I missed the stream today. Will watch now but man that's a funny and awkward intro :) Love the show though 👍

[@mixedrealityTV]

Glad that you enjoy it! And the funny and awkward intro! haha.. :)

[@kitgodlike524]

it very well! Good Job!

[@thevirtualgamegod]

great beat

[@mw6092]

This Custom Home Mapper sounds great. Can't wait for Oculus to launch their sidequest alternative as it will make it so much easier to try all the awesome stuff that's not in the official store.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Yes sounds really cool! Glad Anthony brought this up!

[@fyleth7703]

Great podcast! And very interesting discussions. The cast is very good, too.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Thank you!! So glad you enjoy it! Can you share it with one or two more VR enthusiasts?

[@fyleth7703]

@@mixedrealityTV Of course, I can do it 👍

[@mixedrealityTV]

@@fyleth7703 Thanks!!!

[@Potatoinc-]

Try to see soft design , composing and setuping as three seperate tNice tutorialngs to focus on and it might will make more sense

[@RuberSocks]

Anthony makes an excellent point about the sensors. Valve Index 2 coming 2022! 🤞 On the other hand, I think there's still a lot of entertainment BCI still cannot beat. The best writers out there are not all going to spend the hours figuring out how to express their media through BCI! developers developers developers

[@Muckylittleme]

The whole point of most entertainment is to see someone elses creation not from our own mind. We live virtual reality in our own minds every day, it is called imagination.

[@virtualknight5669]

experiencing others experiences is so easy since you only have to record high accurate brain signal pattern and replay the same pattern to someone else

[@MikeslyMontague]

I'm so glad we have OpenBCI and not Facebook BCI. This timeline isn't so bad after all.

[@objectivemillennial2117]

oculus dont show any ads so you wrong

[@kcovert3]

Sebastion really like my I left VR shirt but would like to buy another one if you can make it. Be the same as the one I bought and added to the back of the shirt "I'm leaving you for VR", daughter's idea 😎 If I could have what I wished for a Q3 it be what I wish I had on the 2. Go back to OLED at same rez or better and higher quality lenses. Get that they need to keep it cheap, cut costs.

[@Jova]

It'll be interesting when they start using our brains as the hardware.

[@patrickoneill2322]

I really hope to see the quest 2 and pcvr just merged together. Quest is obviously the hardware format that the market wants. Simple, wireless, plug'n'play out of the box(without the plug part!) But Q2 feels like a sub-par device, and that's the greatest problem. No one wants a restricted list of downgraded games,especialy if the few flagship titles are missing(half life) And we need a easy, newbie friendly integration of full body tracking.

[@rddubbwright6283]

Needs better fov and full body tracking

[@shawn6306]

I disagree with steve but i respect his opinions and everyone's difference opinions well for me i'm all for the valve brain interface i think it's an blow minding amazing idea to me in my honest opinion so i do see myself using that and i know that alot of people are against addiction because they think it's unhealthy well for me i have to be 100% honest with you guys i'm the only one that thing there's nothing wrong with being addicted to technologies and virtual reality tech as well i don't see it as a bad thing unhealthy at all to me it's not unhealthy to me at all i see it as a good thing to me in my book so i think it's ok to be addicted i'm a huge fan of vr so yeah i do see myself being addicted i love being addicted i will admit it i'm not a shame of that i embrace it for what it is i don't have no concerns about it so for me i actually really do want that i think it's not dangerous i just don't see it as a dangerous thing to me at all that's just me but i know that is gonna be far away in the near future that we won't get that no time soon but i respect everyone's difference decision free will if some of us are against it or all for it i'm just not one of those people who we tell someone on what they should or shouldn't do by telling them what to do so i think it's ok for us to do whatever we wanna do doing what makes us happy and following our heart instincts i don't judge anyone for there free will as long they are not actually harming anyone.

[@Muckylittleme]

Technology is systematically detaching us from our humanity and the real world. The way people act in public now is so alien to normal human behaviour, everyone in their own bubble and connected to their phones Reconnect to the real world and each other, it beats simulation and solitude every time.

[@shawn6306]

@@Muckylittleme I knew you was gonna say that all i gotta say is i really don't care because i don't like nobody forcing me to do things i don't wanna do by telling me what to do on what i should or shouldn't do on what i should or shouldn't support either i also don't like being shame either i rather do what i wanna do just let me be dan.

[@DamienPaulLabonte]

@@shawn6306 do you know what a Skinner box is. You may rethink your comment if you research what Skinner box techniques are.

[@DamienPaulLabonte]

@@Muckylittleme indeed. Look at the extreme narcissism alone. People doing and saying anything to be tiktok famous. Sad to watch people losing their humanity and spiritual connection to life, trading it in for fake hearts and fake likes.

[@shawn6306]

@@DamienPaulLabonte no i will not rethink my comment at all just leave me alone danien because if you don't i'm just gonna ignore you and anyone that tells me difference otherwise i rather listen to myself i'm not gonna listen to you and others that is telling me what to do bye.

[@eddieb232]

If fb is going to be releasing a new headset within the next yr, I wouldn't mind buying it if its the same price as the quest 2 I purchased. Its so cheap it really doesn't bother me.

[@mixedrealityTV]

It probably is.

[@xevious2501]

early generation vr 2016 2017...lol poor boy dont know VR has been around since the late 60's , consumer VR since the late 80's early 90s. what we have today which was the revival of consumer level good quality VR obviously started with Palmer lucky's original oculus. but vr and ar has more history than what we see today. far more.

[@lraiden7]

Actually it's not so much the hardware, but the software the VR developers need to improve. I had a 30 percent coupon for Oculus last week and really I couldn't find anything tempting to buy! All the best is still only available for PC and consoles. The best games really worth it are Half Life and a handful of others. Cyberpunk? This should be in VR. What good is the hardware with crappy stuff to use. If you buy it just for Flight Simulator and X-Plane... great! Pavlov.. ok but still not complete.. There are some cool stuff, but it gets dry at some point. And I can't understand how the theatre industry doesn't take advantage of VR in this pandemic! Imagine watching a Broadway or off-Broadway play live in VR....

[@marikarestov520]

instead.... soday I’ll manage to export sotNice tutorialng decent on soft... one day lol

[@Gr8Success]

oh nice jellyfishTetiana

[@yoan4152]

Comfort and OS have to be improved

[@questioneverythingalways820]

There is barely any difference between AR and VR, they are (or will be) essentially the same thing when considered from a mixed environment perspective. They both overlay digital objects to physical terrain. (Or have the ability too) The liability considerations are the same, probably more complicated for AR, especially if used in public settings. Pass through or a controlled environment negates the issue of “third party” objects causing potential injury. Proper BCI is decades away. Lol

[@kenneth7239]

I don't think Steve knows much about BCI

[@atol71]

This is how valve opens gates to it's personal hell (Black Mesa) due the fact system is in HYBRIS state....

[@matrix9452]

I find it kinda funny that people get very excited by Valve and this CBI company getting all this data directly from your brain and even interacting with your brain but panic over Facebook having eye tracking for example. Guys, data is the new currency, Facebook isn't the only company that harvest data, every company analyse this, even to improve their product. But if you're so worried about being spied on, or people getting your data, you should also fight Valve, because believe me, they will also explore your data, makes no sense criticize Facebook but praise Valve. Also nobody is considering the health impact of this, maybe is not safe to mess with your brain like that, and all this sensor and frequent radiation in your skull with all these sensors.

[@sirgriffinman]

I think if Facebook/Oculus releases another headset this year it will be "PRO" device.

[@mixedrealityTV]

If it would really come out this year, I agree with you!

[@t3chnod3lic]

Glued to ya tube LOL

[@mixedrealityTV]

Great!

[@sirgriffinman]

My bet is they will not release a Quest 3 but instead a Quest 2 Pro.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

definitely at some point.... but maybe when they reach 5-10 million active users....that's my guess anyway

[@islamicanimationbangla]

I did all of tNice tutorials for years in Protools but watcNice tutorialng tNice tutorials for soft soft I feel like a stroke victim in a hospital bed learning to speak

[@tasmania9576]

Brain interface is far away. I think i dont want this. Its to dangerous.

[@tstone9151]

I think it’s great for people with disabilities, if your blind or paralyzed, this technology is worth it

[@oden8458]

I would melt my brain if I could have fulldive

[@duked19]

BCI, that can send visuals and feelings to your brain is 50-100 years away. Great, futuristic AR is at least 10 years away. AR games, like Custom Home Mapper, will be so boring, if you want to play games like Fallout, Elder Scrolls or HL: Alyx - because you'll get the same level design over and over again (that is:the layout of your house/apartment), unless you want to play outside looking like a fool and running into trees, etc.

[@questioneverythingalways820]

Shocking how many people think BCI is happening tomorrow, basic BCI - yes. If they looked into the technological challenges it involves...they would realise we may not ever get to “full dive”

[@JohanVFX]

Will you PLEASE stop interrupting each other...!! This panel discussion is full of half-finished chains of thoughts! It's so frustrating to watch, I cannot finish it.....

[@rosirisleonormarquezmartin4]

keep saying what you wanna say without having to tNice tutorialnk how people will twist that.

[@thomasspeliers9602]

interresting talk but man, the host need to get better. He was slow talking all the time, repeating himself a lot, taking too much time to do anything. Sorry, I don't want to be rude, it's just the way I felt it. Good show though, keep it up !

[@mixedrealityTV]

I also think the host sucks.