Nezarec Cheese Spot + FULL Pantheon Week 4 Guide! (Destiny 2)

[@FalloutPlays]

ALTERNATE NAZAREC STRATEGIES: There’s a unique strat you can use on Nezarec if you have 4 Marksman Golden Gun Hunters + a Divinity. The Hunters Equip Star-Eater Scales, and when you Div Nezarec (in the middle of the map), have the Hunters pop goldie & hit Nezarec with 3 shots. They should each produce 2 Orbs of Power per hit, and with 4 Hunters total, this will be a HUGE orb printing strat. The hunters can then dodge with Powerful Attraction, pick up all the nearby orbs, RE-GET their golden gun, rinse & repeat! If you do this, have the hunters UN-EQUIP Argent Ordnance from the Artifact, and Remove Weapon Surge Armor Mods from your leg armor (this will conflict with the strat). REGARDING THE ROOT/LEDGE BY SPAWN: Despite this being a cheesy spot, it's by no means free. You have to bait Nezarec over there before damage begins - and very often, he'll just F off (or not approach the ledge entirely), meaning you won't get a clear shot or you'll flat out waste your damage phase. If you wanna use that spot, I recommend dealing damage to Nezarec WHILE he approaches you at the ledge, then when he gets too close - back off the ledge onto the root, and finish DPS there. Or y'know, mobile/moving damage in the middle of the map & just play safe. ADDITIONAL STRAT FOR RHULK: If you're having trouble with Rockets on Rhulk because he's so mobile - apparently Divinity / 5 Sleepers is an easy 2 phase with Solar Surge

[@carlosjosephgomez1495]

There also seems to be a strat with doing damage where Nezzy spawns and having a Stronghold Titan hold Nezzy in the center.

[@zkingdomhearts8992]

The fact that the whole stareater scales strat is a thing is crazy I wouldn’t doubt they announce stareaters getting nerfed in the FS

[@AtlRopeGuy]

Don't need the golden guns. We did this easily with just linears, 2 gg's, and ammo to spare as a one phase. People really need to just get gud on using shotcaller + respective buffs. Sleeper was *FREE* on this method. I put up 1.7 easily with just sleeper.

[@AskCosmin]

Why do surges conflict with star eater? Don't orb pickups proc everything from getting super, to activating surge and giving you feast of light?

[@VoidCommander808]

@@zkingdomhearts8992they already did

[@CryTech69]

I cannot believe Riven was not the final boss in this awesome Pantheon event that has reinvigorated so many D2 player's interest in the game. And what a perfect thematic end it would have been to this pre-Final Shape storyline that culminated in the RIVEN themed Season of the Wish and all the events that it revealed.

[@GBSteven954]

Nez is a harder fight and his name is literally The Final God of Pain

[@hida_berserker]

riven was a good break from the pre-semi-final boss and semifinal boss, popping his pimples was so satisfying

[@MowJoeJoJo]

Props to you for maintaining the running "graphic design is my passion" joke every week of this raid! Makes me laugh every time!

[@jacktravis2718]

Graphic design is my passion, look at this picture of a salmooon

[@loudacrisp]

For making refuge during Nezarec fight, what I have seen done is that side lane ad clear people grab the buff with the runners at encounter start and run to the opposite side to make both light and dark refuge at R1 and L1 respectively. It gives the runners one less thing to worry about.

[@aljan6]

Jup have done that since forever, best strat since the add clearers don't do much else and its a set plate you need to stand on so no guessing/confusion which plate to go

[@nickg8100]

Does the refuge you create degrade over time or nope, good until the wipe mechanic?

[@aljan6]

@@nickg8100 haven't played RoN in a while but i believe it stays until dmg/wipe

[@random_n]

If you haven't done Riven legit before, it's worth it just for the music and spectacle alone. This fight is absolutely peak Destiny.

[@G0DofRock]

Never did it legit before, we did it on run 3 lol

[@SupaDuperJosh]

Never done it but looking forward to doing it. Always get jealous of people who have just for the spectacle

[@theSixPathsOfTrains]

Meh I can live without it because after we used the "wave frame gets stuck on rivens back trick" along with tractor cannon and 4 stasis titans. Got it after 6 tries.

[@nicholaswebb4625]

Yeeeesss that's what I keep telling people, it's truly a full experience

[@Ggscuffd]

@@theSixPathsOfTrainswait what??? Explain?

[@Cosminn02]

If it took fallout almost 7 hours to clear this I can't imagine what the average lfg clear time will be

[@kawaiichi]

Lots of impatient quitters

[@pdm881]

Only streamers are clearing this and getting the title my man.

[@scout_og]

@@pdm881 You don't have to be a streamer to be good at the game

[@Leauxf]

Took my team 4hrs 🙂

[@alitpotato8298]

Fangs what throwing

[@fardboi9781]

had to go wayyy back in the archives for that riven guide hahaha

[@Zagafur]

btw when you are a nezarec runner, you dont HAVE to shoot the orb. if you are on the plate, you can look down and melee the plate itself, and you'll get or deposit the buff. a good thing to remember, especially if you are getting flinched while running

[@ninthfriend3347]

For the refuge part, you can have add clearers start with the runner and criss-cross to their opposing second node when the runner activates it. The refuge zone will last until Nezarec does his wipe attack. I don't know if they patch this awhile ago but it made the encounter more smoother.

[@iHandleEasily]

Still a thing

[@mrmonsterhunter808]

It's not a bug, the refuge itself lasts for roughly a minute, the first nez running phase is also a minute and each phase after is about 45 seconds.

[@Beateau]

Big tip that's probably already been mentioned, but you can proc shot caller while they are still immune (i.e care taker, planets and oryx)

[@connor1910]

what sucks is i know i can absolutely do this. the hard part is finding people in lfg that are also competent enough and patient enough to not quit right away

[@riderusn]

Same

[@skarsgard1342]

it's always the people that can't do it saying 'I could DEFO do this easy but it's always my teammates' everything is always the teammates fault. It's not remotely hard to put a group together, raid report, braytech, check your teammates, invite 5 teammates you check = done. Ya'll are just lazy and blaming everyone else for the fact you haven't done it is easier than admitting it's your own fault.

[@OthersideSparrow]

^ 1st raid report yourself. This tells you how skilled you are and what you should be looking 2nd RR check every LFG and find people your skill / kick people who don't meet this / hope people of higher skill are willing to play with you.

[@connor1910]

@@skarsgard1342 except that’s not what i said. I know i’m not going in there and succeeding right away. What I dont get is why everyone else thinks that this is going to be cake that you beat on the first try. Especially in LFG, too many people that are going for the seal don’t realize that it will take time, get impatient and leave after a couple wipes.

[@chipsahoy3225]

U guys down to run it lol

[@aaronyze]

My team learned how to do riven legit because of pantheon.. boy what great experience I was missing out..

[@ImmaculateOtter]

Is she not able to be cheesed in Pantheon? I still want to try legit, either way

[@fiinley]

@@ImmaculateOtter her feet are immune in pantheon now, so a cheese is basically impossible because of how much reduced DPS she takes when she’s not on the final plate. ive seen some people do it, but my team just did it legit and it was way smoother and an extremely easy one phase

[@ZombieBacon13]

@@ImmaculateOtter She's not cheesable but pretty much impossible to not get the one phase.

[@jimmysuros6302]

@aaronyze what is your profile picture of

[@aaronyze]

@@jimmysuros6302 if you mean who's the character in my profile picture, it's a furry. My fursona, to be precise.

[@jameswilles7814]

One thing I like mentioning for running on nez: plate order will ALWAYS look like (1 -> 2 or 3 -> 3 or 2 -> 4 or 5 -> 5 or 4 -> 6). This is actually great for people who are less experienced because it means there is only ever at most 2 plates they need to check.

[@masterjim666]

Ah, so basically 2/3 and 4/5 can switch order.

[@drfr0stii704]

BONUS TIP: If you get the refuge bug, where Nezi’s shoulders don’t break. You can ether go to orbit to reset it, or pop one shoulder while he is up top, get agro, let him come down, then shoot the other. It works.

[@BastiaanBuellingAbadeonGaming]

finally a "real" guide :-) I've watched a ton of them but none explained it like you did (with clear images and placements) thanks 🙂

[@forrestrichard8133]

Just a tip for nezarec. My team always just gets both refuges so they're both up the whole encounter. That way no one has to scramble to get refuge and it's just up, avoiding any wipe scenario where someone can't get refuge up fast enough or forgets or something.

[@zacinnc78]

can u get in any refuge then or does it have to be the one his shoulder pop is colored

[@G0DofRock]

After about 24hrs straight of doing Nexarec, finally got it. The key was having non-dogshit teammates who can survive and not complain/quit over every little thing. Throughout the number of final-stands we got, and the subsequent losers who rage-quit, we found the far-back-left spot on the spire to be a good DPS spot (which I was very reluctant on for awhile), needed to absolutely destroy 1st DPS to well over half health, combined Rockets/Sleepers/Div/GL's and we had too many runs where we had little-to-no ammo to make it through final-stand, so we all added a 3rd hotswap running Touch of Malice/Malfeasants and it just killed it for us! Touch was actually awesome for primary damage. Utilizing shot-caller 100% the play, can even pop it off the tormentor if you do the spot we used. Solar> Strand for sure. Left/Right Ad-clear was our best hunters popping golden guns ASAP to kill colossus', since you always get it back by DPS (very important). Gaze/Mid Ad-clear were making refuge at the start then continuing on, but generally skipping first refuge and having fast runners was best. Absolute hell but worth the title.

[@serendus]

24 hours is genuinely crazy and just sad

[@G0DofRock]

@@serendus wouldn't say it was that painful but yes it was crazy, couldn't get anyone in my clan to help and my other main group was busy with work and stuff.

[@gonnerkat8753]

same here dude not done all of week 4 yet but im gonna try and get it done before everything goes offline my clan has a no fault policy so ppl don't get discouraged and quit because feeling like a wipe was your fault just causes so many problems (and when ppl start playing the blame game, etc)

[@FreznyL]

U also DO NOT NEED TO get play time u get enough to get the points without it we 3 phased and got it

[@wethepeople8280]

What are you referring to?

[@raycantu2263]

Nezz I think you can 3 phase and still get platinum

[@ekkaar]

@@raycantu2263 thats only if yo udo the pantheon in one sitting. If the team goes back to orbit at any point it doesnt work

[@jhunromero9592]

Yeah m8 but the problem is staying alive

[@HardwiredMike]

@@ekkaar CP from Riven on would work

[@CheeseForever]

Edit: I didn't get him there before damage phase started and it didn't work at all

[@Revadike]

Oh hey, did you smell cheese? :P

[@insane5907]

Sleeper + Div absolutely cooks rhulk btw

[@HazeJaze]

How much Dmg? 2/3 health per phase? 1/2 health?

[@wethepeople8280]

What supers you guys run? Any wells?

[@HazeJaze]

@@wethepeople8280at least two wells. Maybe 3. We just did the cheese tho- last week Acrius almost one phased for us- wondering if using sleeper is as good

[@HazeJaze]

Even tho it’s not arc surge Acrius still cooks

[@Frost.7xx]

Launching Rhulk off the edge absolutely cooks Rhulk too 😎😎

[@Bull625]

as great as I've seen Pantheon be and how cool it'd be to get the title. I simply don't have enough motivation to go out and do it.

[@TanikoShima]

Additional strat for Nez : use lament on his platform and smoke him. Chain wells on his stage and he falls over, hard two phase, brain dead three phase

[@immortalspear]

We went to the far back left root thiny with 1k and 2 phased him, at final stand we just used Outbreak with Rewind Rounds and we did it in less than an hour

[@rubidium1948]

It’s honestly crazy how much harder week 4 is. I finally found an LFG where we all demolished week 3 and we’re glazing each other finally thinking “This is it, this is the team.” just to get take 3 hours to clear Golgorath and someone having to go after an hour of Caretaker.

[@mr.2timez555]

I'm just gonna worry about one encounter a day. Lol. LFGs are terrible. If I can't find a solid team and clear an encounter in one go, great I'll keep going. But after last week. I'm not holding my breath

[@Adequate_Plays]

Yeah it’s tough man, I finally got a good group and we were doing just fine. Then a storm hit and a telephone went down and everyone in my areas power went out. I was so pissed. Just praying I can find a decent team again today. Good luck to you as well! At least we have a week to get it done.

[@ZombieBacon13]

@@Adequate_Plays Think we have until june 3rd

[@tiltedhorizon1435]

Cry Mutany with Demo Vorpal selected is also super solid for most of the Pantheon. Not as good as the others but it is consistent and probably one of the best Solar GLs.

[@toastmon2226]

I’m cool with only elite players getting this title/ emblem. I feel like this is very deserving to those who can do these raids and I can accept I won’t be able to do the toughest pantheon

[@Arkantus92]

This is a nice video, this is the way

[@Narfwak]

we used mountaintop jumping to get our add clear people across fast enough to actually kill the adds and the shielded dude before the buff ran out. 10/10 would recommend trying it, mountaintop being useful both for getting over to him and killing him practically feels intended

[@soldado23]

Best weapon for Primary: Vex Mythoclast for eyes and mouth/tentacles by holding R and using your charges. Additionally when falling you have to shoot to her body sections. Pretty much we one phase her with GL’s.

[@boomshot7971]

Vex is hands down crazy to even suggest

[@sunupsmart]

Insane😂

[@TheMcK777]

Re-learning Riven was a trip.

[@sakuramoon3259]

Sleeper Simulant with Div is also very good for Rhulk/Nez.

[@northpabon9681]

Time to find an lfg group that will stay once I tell them the only one I don't know how to do is rhulks 💀

[@James3j2]

much better cheese spot is standing where he spawns in on the platform, nez just stand still below you for the whole dps phase

[@arjunbaweja7755]

That’s not true. He can jump up. So this is less optimal

[@tiltedhorizon1435]

Also, we always had 3 people start under the buff on both sides. The runners shoot to start and do what they normally do. Ad clear runs across to the opposite side and nukes the collosus, and the last 2 crisscross as well and activate the L2 and R2, making both refuges right at the start. That way both are there the entire phase and no one has to stop what they're doing to set it up. Just get the callout and when it's time, go take a quick dip then go back to what you were doing. Makes it so easy and stress free.

[@WARLOCKJT]

We actually defeated Nez without a cheese spot, just straight up fight him in middle lane, I fell proud of that! :D

[@WARLOCKJT]

@Anklebiting Sleeper Sims and Div, 2 wells (1 in each side of the lane) and we would just proc shot caller and run opposite to him, was fun and intense.

[@BarbatosGamer]

Whisper is the way on oryx no matter what. It did better week 3 arc surge than running arc weapons.

[@SilentSquash]

The pre-solar 3.0 for riven legit lol

[@carseatgaming]

I just cant find a team for Pantheon. Probably not getting God slayer

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodSayori]

If you are able I'd recommed the lfg discord, can't promise its 100% success rate or anything but in general Id say you get better people overall there so long as you carry your own weight

[@sauceinmyface9302]

@@FriendlyNeighborhoodSayoriI seecond this. Just got godslayer today on lfg. I definitely got lucky with my team, but it was a smooth running engine for most encounters.

[@juliussmithy7000]

​@@sauceinmyface9302Damn bro fr? any chance these folks are running it again 😭

[@Rushzies]

Its been less than 24 and you have two weeks lol stop giving up

[@carseatgaming]

@@Rushzies my brother I don't got no 12 hours a day to play

[@STUFFfromthegooddays]

My team used sleeper of all things for Nez. Actual sleeper option 😅

[@mybalzich2016]

I lost a run at final stand because nez decided to jump off the map, and he went immune teleporting back on the map then we got the wipe screen without anyone actually dying. Bungie, fix your damn raids.

[@serendus]

Skill issue

[@beatzbyjay24]

The eye call outs is hard i can see many people calling out the wrong thing

[@somegeese]

I see yters are still disrespecting the strand rocket from season of the witch.

[@MrKeykeylikesit]

Welp I can't see myself getting past this week lol

[@GodofWarChuka]

Pantheon is so easy! LoL

[@JDxxxxxx]

Stage is way better for Nez. That cheese spot sucks sometimes cause Nez likes to be an idiot and not come over there.

[@chickennuggler]

The solution to that problem was clearly stated in the video and is also pinned in the comment section. There is supposed to be someone called a babysitter, who takes his aggro by shooting his crit spots, then walks him over to the “cheese” spot.

[@JDxxxxxx]

@@chickennuggler still annoying that way

[@TavsWorld]

Yeah i’ll just stick to farming the raid for CF Shotgun……

[@twitsik8966]

This riven fallout just makes it unnecessarily complex 😂 who came up with this ?

[@Spahki]

If i were bungie i would stealth patch that root to make it intangible for the nez fight

[@JISHBOSIN]

Layout A is floor 2 of Tree side

[@Surge44]

Ill tap out of week 4. I only have 50 full riad clears, i dont know riven legit either

[@sunupsmart]

I have 42 didnt know rhulk caretaker or riven and got godslayer like half an hour ago DONT GIVE UP

[@ER1C03]

Do u know if final boss checkpoint will award bonus completion points if we can’t get the time trial?

[@ZombieBacon13]

I think thats the case as long as its not a checkpoint. It adds up points from previous encounters for the final score.

[@1124spawn]

almost forgot this was pantheon my brain hurts i saw a kingsfall weapon drop at the nezzy fight

[@consolefragging9392]

Bro i forgot how freaking mechanic heavy Riven was

[@Markster247]

Is there any teams who are consistent with week 4?Ive neen stuck at Oryx lol

[@ringomandingo1015]

Mannnnnn, was looking forward to seeing Nezarec bring pain to fireteams who are too used to standing-in-place dps. I hope bungie makes that spot Out of Bounds just to spite players

[@SifGreyfang]

Bungie is currently crying about the Nezarec cheese spot

[@arjunbaweja7755]

At least nez can still attack

[@jujitta]

I dont have that rocket or that GL this sucks my dmg is trash lol

[@Lkabss]

If you dont already have apex... not recommended to be doing -20 raids most likely. But since that's a lame answer, go do the wish token quests. You can get a crafted apex by tomorrow.

[@Frost.7xx]

Go see Mara sov, run her 5 wish quests. Pick up 5 apex red borders. Problem solved. Will take you a cpl hrs at most

[@JuanVazquez-zd7do]

Frost already provided one solution with the Mara Sov tokens. Another option, is to ask to be the gjallarhorn user out of the group. You want one person with a gally so the apex pred rockets get wolf pack rounds. Another choice if using grenade launchers is the cry mutiny. It was a ritual reward weapon from the pirate themed season. Run it with demo, vorpal and a boss spec. It will not be as good as apex or cat gl, but can still be respectable damage.

[@twitsik8966]

Imagine having to look at an image everytime you want to do riven. It’s so stupid

[@jeremyalspaugh6843]

Is there something stopping you from shooting the spot the the holder needs to go to cleanse

[@vaka4541]

the glass window youre looking through

[@carlosjosephgomez1495]

Hey, I was in stream for this

[@luistorres8206]

We made it to naz in 2 hrs but it was already late asf and all went to bed

[@keshinu]

Are the surges going to change with the next weekly reset?

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

I really hope not

[@keshinu]

@@Spartan-bl4pq same

[@thebhoy8561]

Class warfare will be easier though

[@TavsWorld]

There will be no more Pantheon when final shape come out

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

@@TavsWorld that’s not what he asked

[@teo2216]

So here is the thing if you can go at the back left part of the map you can jump on some beaches and nez just stands there and can get a very good dps phase

[@sundays35]

What was that melee symbol he had during the Riven encounter? I haven't seen that before.

[@Frost.7xx]

Old school solar. Pre-3.0. (Notice the power/light lvls above their heads😂)

[@samanthavalles8005]

is the rhulk cheese still working

[@shadowwinnower5918]

Yes watch cheese forever’s newest video on it, did mine first try

[@LanceizPro]

Nezarec was pretty tubby in that graphic. Man, he let himself go.

[@danteezybreezzy]

So we can’t cheese riven anymore?

[@rosenslavchev3462]

There's in fact is a chat on console

[@ThatIcy777]

yes, but it can be difficult to quickly write stuff on a controller

[@JaySouth_QC]

​​@@ThatIcy777bluetooth keyboard is now a must have for me on consol. Very helpfull to be able to type quickly in lfg or matchmaking activity

[@God-of-all-monsters]

Fallout , sleeper creams nezerac aswell

[@helamananderson3992]

Not having cataphract is making me hurt like a bitch 🙃

[@dacedave4161]

Please actually make sure the light runner gets there safely instead of ditching em with dozens of ads and a Tormentor in the area...

[@looni__7991]

Deadman’s Tale for DPS is so unfathomably based

[@xxsleep_for3verx]

Does rhulk cheese still work

[@Narfwak]

yes, it's 100% consistent and reproducible if you know how to do it correctly

[@Frost.7xx]

Yes. Confirmed. Did it twice after reset today on week 3 and week 4

[@zyphreiumv4529]

Hey, do we know if the title will still be obtainable tomorrow? We're probably going to get everything -but- Rhulk done by tonight.

[@corruptVz]

pffft

[@zyphreiumv4529]

Lol, to answer the question--yes it was still possible! We got it!

[@nomad8785]

80 % people go have Godslayer title even if then dont play raids, thats bullshit :D

[@c0mpl3x91]

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THIS DAMNED WEEK 4?!?!?!?!

[@hmmyes5536]

Alternate nez strat, lament

[@Alex-qo4ol]

full hentai is WILD💀

[@CptUnreal]

lol hentai attack …. Perfect

[@shiro4]

What to use if I don't have apex or Cataphract?

[@corbandelossantos3607]

Pray 😭💀

[@xZaykiox]

Sleeper, or Gallahorn or Divinity

[@NoxianTyrant]

OMG DEAD MANS TALE FOR FINAL STAND

[@Rynobii]

Cant cheese riven, but can cheese the roided up chicken

[@chazcarpenter1559]

If anyones down to run it today or tomorrow lmk. Im a Rank 11 and can swap to any class we need. Just please know what you’re doing

[@Wistros]

Riven the real way, pssft such try hards. The real way is 6 stasis titans aha the true masters of the darkness

[@Cabunga7777]

Have they fixed Riven for pantheon??

[@Frost.7xx]

Yes

[@LRC_24]

kinda not related to pantheon, has anyone got the twitch emblem from week 4? got mine but doesn’t show up when i restart the game

[@muffemz0r]

Much better spot on the left side of the map :)

[@edozh8412]

14:13 for nez cheese spot

[@Yeans-fw3xm]

Warlock supers are severely underpowered for this boss. Nova is bad. Ark is laughable. Solar is like a pat on the back to the boss. Stasis is nowhere to be seen. Leaving strand as the only ok option.

[@serendus]

“Strand as the only ok option” is beyond crazy ngl

[@Jakesterpop1]

You’re calling Riven a pervert?

[@jmfe10]

oh god no, not legit riven noooo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@BlakeTDavis64]

The two words I fear, "riven" and "legit" lol

[@Toobesound]

Did her for the first time legit yesterday, it's really not that bad. Easier than caretaker imo

[@pocalypse5726]

Do you have to two phase him for plat score @Fallout Plays

[@DomiBlueShellz]

Nezarec ?... Fullrun no due to completion Bonus CP yes

[@Nobody-iz8fg]

Does the Riven cheese still work on the pantheon?

[@OthersideSparrow]

Nope

[@rudiausbuddeln6332]

Just do discord stream

[@jakewilliams713]

After watching how to legit Riven I think I’m just gonna pass on this week, oh well I got 3 out of 4 emblems not too shabby for getting it done with only LFG teams

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

Bro I did riven in 3 try’s nezarec is what you should be worried about

[@Redtornado6]

Did riven get patched?

[@life-destiny1196]

The reason I've been given for people not doing it is that Pantheon Riven has a bunch of DR until you get to the top floor, so you can't actually put out enough DPS to pull off the usual cheese.

[@Redtornado6]

@@life-destiny1196 oh ok nice

[@Levisterman]

Did they patch the cheese for Riven in Pantheon?

[@corbandelossantos3607]

Yes, they made the damage when going up the floor way less, so you have to do it legit

[@Cosmicdookie517]

Everyone complaining about LFG being bad but we all know that you guys are the same, toxic!