NFL: Saints bounties, who do you believe?

First Take discusses the New Orleans Saints' bounty programs and if the players may be innocent. Watch more videos like this at www.espnamerica.com

[@JTNugget]

Seeing how hard they gunned against Favre in the 09 playoffs I guarantee this actually happened.

[@nvmfirezactaylor6035]

JTNugget right? People asking for the evidence need to just look at that game. Driving Favre into the ground, gunning for his ankles, levelling him when he clearly doesn't have the ball. Luckily Favre was a qb from a different era that was tougher. Imagine if Brady or Newton got hit like that.

[@daveysweigard]

liukangstoupee it’s one thing when people are obviously being pussies but I’m assuming you do watch football these days right? It’s fucking ridiculous some of the hits that occur because people don’t follow the rules. You can’t deny people are trying to hurt people, which is not what football is about. Like obliterating some dudes back with your helmet from behind just as he’s catching the ball is unnecessary

[@bronxmade8710]

Fire Marvin Lewis, Mike Brown just die already I was saying the same thing. Favre came up in a era where every Sunday were head hunters and hard hits on QB’s or who ever got the ball. That quote from Troy Aikman during that game Favre was getting torn up when he said “Favre Is still smiling” was telling us Favre embraced it and knew what was up kinda but still competed till the very end.

[@thejb3947]

liukangstoupee if they did it to brees you would be the first one crying

[@blackturkdog]

@@thejb3947 if the Cowboys were doing this, they would take our 5 Lombardies and our Billion dollar stadium. #Facts

[@khav11]

jesus even 2012 seems old now, they look considerably younger and it's only 6 years

[@smithnwesson990]

Yup. Its amazing how much you can age in 6 years

[@mikethomas5231]

Grigori Rasputin 1990 & SmithN' Wesson: Well... Obviously,NO ONE is immune to aging!! 😒😑😊.

[@dopeascopebrother60]

@@mikethomas5231 nobody said that. He said it's amazing how much they aged in 6 years specifically, not that they aged in general. you are fucking dumb.

[@jackcooper8150]

how about now?

[@YonkoBlackbeard]

Now it’s been almost 11 years

[@patricyandemir4962]

Gregg Williams is back in the business and everybody loves Sean Payton and everybody's darling Drew Brees as their coverface

[@MrTrack412]

Yes

[@provenknowledge]

Patric Yandemir Greg Williams knows how to contain, and stop the run. There’ll always be a job for you in the NFL if you can do that.

[@whodatmyan]

Fuck the saints

[@ionknow2430]

@@whodatmyan f the 49erw

[@ionknow2430]

49ers

[@jinmivin1]

Dude I miss this group of guys so much, especially the camaraderie between Stephen A. and Skip, but Jay’s always funny as shit too, and he’s a moderator. I’m just saying, when these guys are not only going on a tangent like Stephen A. when he’s talking about his family members, and that’s able to make me laugh for 5 minutes about the implied joke there, that’s pretty damn funny. Especially for a national sports show.

[@Chiefs767]

We’re not going here😂😂😂😂😂 Gets me every time

[@ElvisRose_]

This goes far beyond any sort of cheating. When someone says if you go hurt someone then I will pay you ten thousand dollars, it’s assault. They aren’t cheaters. They’re a bunch of criminals.

[@Unknokownuser]

Fax

[@richardrobin5837]

Not one player made a dirty play. They were payed extra to hit hard. It's called football but I expect this soft generation to be butt hurt by hard playing. Every team does this.

[@abruhigoham7472]

@@richardrobin5837 should be a gladiator sport but women like this get to routinely invade mens spaces and ruin the fun.

[@pandaman2840]

@@richardrobin5837 You clearly are talking without knowing anything about this. "Go for the head" "Go for the ACL" Leaving lasting damage on players, intentionally going after specific spots of previous injuries, and trying to take them out of the game (and also their career) is shitty. If you think that "isn't football" then your version of football is trash

[@pandaman2840]

@@abruhigoham7472 Boo hoo players won't die from CTE and can have a functioning brain past 50. Wow what a bunch of pansies right? Not literally killing themselves? How could they????

[@LightBrand]

The original 3 amigos, Jay Skip and Stephen

[@letsgomets07]

Actually realized I like Stephen A, he will speak facts which this world avoids

[@raymcelveen1952]

Smith’s shallow point is silly. Those men knew their fate was sealed just like their coach’s fate was sealed. Listened to Fujita’s statement. He has never been told what he was punished for and he denies ever participating in a bounty in any way. Who do you believe a standup football player near the end of his career or a paid liar sack of shit like Roger Goodell?

[@danieldelk7036]

Dude they have audio of Greg Williams talking about it to players

[@catfishman1768]

@@danieldelk7036 Dude do they have audio of Fujita?

[@slyfoxxsr.941]

Payton needs to be heavily fined & suspended in 2020.

[@richardrobin5837]

Why? He was fined and suspended a whole year for this already

[@TheBeggies95]

@@richardrobin5837 2021 second game vs the Buccaneers was disgusting. They took Evans, Godwin and Fournette out and destroyed the Bucs chances in the playoffs. Bunch of dirty pos

[@beachbayareajr455]

Netflix movie home team base on this

[@johnnywolfdalcour3983]

You guys do know they took it to court and the players won right? It was someone who got fired by the saints and lied on them they had no evidence what so ever

[@johnkensington5449]

audio evidence

[@coreyritter9143]

“If you kill the head the body will die” lmao no evidence 😂 dirty team, disgusting coach.

[@504gucci4]

@@coreyritter9143 plenty of locker rooms have said the same shit, that proves nothing

[@504gucci4]

@@johnkensington5449 that proves nothing

[@jamesr2547]

Listen to the tape.

[@dinopaolella9728]

There is no videos to where I see any evidence that support this false allegation

[@pandaman2840]

💀 You clearly haven't looked

[@levibyler9975]

It did happen in real time its not just a movie plp but shit happens In life most will blaim football but I don't really I guess but it perty clear some of them guys have a perty hard time if u understand hard times u would definitely understand 🤤 some can move on like nothing ever happened but ass draking for most of your life if a pain on the ass

[@marclewis2119]

I'm guessing you hard a hard time with yer book learnin' an thats why yer spelln is so aweful.

[@Matt-mk4fs]

It’s a movie now

[@GoodKidd___98]

So let me get this straight one of the players on the saints were paid a thousand dollars to late hit guys or hurt them🤔 y’all just been played

[@craigferge4702]

there was an audio tape of Greg williams telling players to tear Crabtree's ACL and go after a QBs head

[@eduardoreyes2933]

Craig Ferge And he told his players to kill frank gores head

[@keltinmendoza6907]

@@eduardoreyes2933 Lol Frank Gore's head meaning his quarterback. Kill the head of the team not the actual head

[@bsp5689]

keltin Mendoza nah dude he told them to take out Alex Smith hit him in the chin and take out Crabtree’s ACL and Vernon Davis ankles..There’s audio of this stop being willfully ignorant and just listen to the tapes

[@gamingXpoison]

keltin Mendoza stupid comment...”kill the head” “we want him running sideways”

[@alejandroramirez9333]

Let's go RAMS

[@tinyfalcon1185]

This is why the aints haven’t been shit since

[@michaelterrell2108]

Haven’t even sniffed a Super Bowl appearance since this went down.

[@richardrobin5837]

Yeah bc the falcons have been so good...lol. sniffed a superbowl? You mean like when we should have if the refs called a interference against the Rams? Falcon fans just jealous. At least when we got to the superbowl we won against one of the greatest quarterbacks. All the falcons did was the biggest choke job in superbowl history...lol

[@michaelterrell2108]

@@richardrobin5837 they've been to one. What have the Saints done except choke over and over?

[@richardrobin5837]

@@michaelterrell2108 win the superbowl in 2010. Win the division almost every year

[@Underratedmen]

@@michaelterrell2108 I know you aren’t talking about the Saints “choking” considering the Falcons have the greatest choke job in NFL history.

[@sis1963]

haven't seen a shred of evidence proving shit

[@themikester3344]

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[@sis1963]

this was such bs not one shred of evidence that ANYONEwas quilty of this

[@davidlevitz5658]

They were just smart enough to have everything verbally

[@sis1963]

still haven't heard not one player say that they did this or even heard about it so you will never convince me otherwise

[@ttg8966]

@@sis1963 the hell you talking bout theirs literally an audio of the coach saying go for Vernon ankles. And crabtree acl Nd goin for the head of frank gore. There’s a whole audio goof. Nd many players that Greg Williams coached from Buffalo Nd redskins said he’s been doing this dumbass

[@stewie4877]

It was fake

[@cedricmussi517]

stewie griffon there's literally audio of Greg Williams telling the defense to kill the head

[@stewie4877]

Cedric M fight me nerd

[@cedricmussi517]

stewie griffon just saying have you heard that audio tape it's fucked up what Greg Williams was telling his players and that's solid evidence so you can't claim it's fake

[@Musicrecords10]

Don't waste your time with him "fight me nerd" lool

[@504gucci4]

@@cedricmussi517 plenty of teams from highschool to the pros say speeches like that all the time. That proves nothing.