NFL Stars: The Pouncey Twins on Aaron Hernandez, Politics, Family & Mike Tomlin | The Pivot Podcast

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In an emotional and at times, high-tension conversation, Mike & Maurkice Pouncey sit with Ryan, Channing and Fred for a different type of Pivot episode than we are normally used to where the men discuss controversial topics, have extremely heated debates and reveal truth in some scrutinized situations that they've been associated with over the years.
Mike, former Miami teammate of Channing and Maurkice, a former teammate of Ryan's in Pittsburgh, known for being two of the best Centers to play in the league during their prime began their NFL career both as first round picks and retired on the same day in Feb of 2021. Extremely talented, the brothers always were at the center of controversial topics and extremely loyal to causes they believed in which a lot of times went against cultural norms and often against their peers in the locker room.
Mike and Maurkice received a lot of backlash for their public support and loyalty to former Florida teammate and friend Aaron Hernandez after he was accused of murder and found guilty of several charges involved with serious off the field situations. For the first time since the death of Aaron Hernandez, the brothers publicly cleared the air and set the record straight on how their support was for the person, not the actions. Detailing the days of trial and leading up to finding Hernandez dead in his jail cell, many rumors and speculation circled about what really happened to Hernandez and both Mike and Maurkice share their personal insight into the situation. Fred also chimes in saying how he spoke to Aaron the night before he died as well and his thoughts on the overall feeling surrounding the incidents.
Being connected to controversy isn't new to the Pouncey brothers as they also received backlash for their public support of President Trump and explain to the guys how they have no regrets or no care for the hate they received by doing so. Ryan and Maurkice get into a heated exchange while discussing the difference of opinions and seeing the world differently despite so many similarities in upbringing and culture.
Playing college football at Florida, the Pouncey Twins played for Urban Meyer, who they credit for helping them develop into mature men at an early age. Mike shares his thoughts on why Coach Meyer was not as successful at the NFL level as he was in College. Fortunate to play for Coach Mike Tomlin, Maurkice spends time explaining why Tomlin is the greatest leader of men and how he doesn't get enough credit for the impact he has made on so many who have played for him. Ryan asks Maurkice about the infamous conversation that him and Big Ben had on the bench after the playoff loss in the 2020 season and what went through his mind that night to lead to early retirement. In a tearful explanation. Maurkice shares what that moment represented in his life and why it was so important for him to leave the NFL at that moment and also walk away from the game he loved with his brother on the same day.
Known for protecting QBs all of their lives, Ryan and Fred ask Mike and Maurkice their feelings about the new concussion protocol and how it's changing the game.
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[@diegotheyorkie1420]

I was visiting my boy Earl Everett at Florida one night after leaving the club in Gainesville and I had a box of pizza…Channing came up to me and took a slice out my box! He said “if you Earl’s boy you’re my boy!” 😂😂

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@@9summers393 I think it was lmao that’s funny. Drunk walking around with that big ass box 😂

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[@stevenweber4990]

Salute to Ryan Clark for not letting his emotions steer the conversation!

[@tuckerjerbs]

He did tho lol

[@jarrettshelton4591]

Yea he did 😂

[@tuckerjerbs]

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[@gmac_sports]

🤡🤡🤡

[@gmac_sports]

@@tuckerjerbs No he didn't

[@MrNoVimBr]

This was a masterclass in pivoting conversation and avoiding a shouting match but still letting everyone speak and express themselves and understanding each other and where they are coming from and seeing all sides 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Great work gentlemen! 👑👑👑👑👑

[@xilften1]

That's why Ryan Clark is here. He pivoted those uncomfortable topics with class while being firm.

[@bama40nhc]

These Pouncey twins are incredible, solid human beings... would never have known this without the Pivot. Big ups to this podcast and it's host!!

[@MrJROOTS99]

@@bama40nhc lol

[@tommyboy0208]

RC is horrible

[@scottsimpson8973]

​@@tommyboy0208 RC has said and I couldn't agree more , he asked espn to let him fill in on get up when greeny is out. They said no, bs . Bc he is so good at everything. Love that dude!

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[@garrickbaylie3721]

Ryan Clark deserve much praise for the way he handled the discussion regarding Trump. The way he explained everything was PERFECT!!! Was good to see a valid passionate discussion without everyone getting upset. Bravo to RC, CC, and FT!!

[@cjd9978]

Thank you Ryan Clark for having the courage, patience & professionalism to push back. You gave the Pouncey Twins another perspective. Great show today guys.

[@maxhostetter1912]

No pounceys gave him another perspective

[@cjd9978]

@@maxhostetter1912 true they both made good points. Pouncey lost me with his take on Police being more aggressive patrolling tougher neighborhoods. RC pushed back perfectly as he should. We’ve seen the data , videos Police de-escalated intense confrontations far more peacefully when involved with non POC.

[@breakingknight8940]

How exactly are there different perspectives here aren’t they both African Americans?

[@cjd9978]

@@breakingknight8940 for starters Markeese was of the mindset some Police aren’t automatically biased/racist towards POC. His position was tough officers are usually that way because of the neighborhood patrolling. Ryan disputed that notion, by stating how Police are able de-escalate violent encounters peacefully depending on the race of the individual. I’ve encountered more aggressive Police in my life than respectful ones sadly. I address everyone Sir/Mam too which probably helped me de-escalate those encounters. They. intentionally tried escalate encounters. Luckily I was taught how to survive the encounters.

[@JJayJ]

@@cjd9978 Just know that every "good" thing they said Donny did was wrong. Like Obama lowered African American unemployment a total of 9% and then Don only lowered it 1% more. They were just repeating lies.

[@DS00999]

People don't understand when someone in your family or close circle does wrong you still feel for the victims, but you are going to continue to love and support your loved one.

[@weezyg5084]

💯

[@jasonbailz6525]

The Pouncey brothers are such great dudes…. Loved the way they explained the situation with Aaron Hernandez ❤️💚

[@scottbivins4051]

Yea for gang bangers who were goddamn lucky not to get charged with something.

[@JenHam321]

@jasonbailz6525 I’ve recently listened to the jail calls with the twins and Aaron. This here gave me a whole new view on them, and Aaron actually. What a sad and crazy situation.

[@DevinMack]

Real talk, Ryan has some real skills.. Masterfully moved off from Trump and Hernandez and the debate/argument and brought it back to fun discussion. Ryan should really be the governor of Louisiana!

[@25McDermott]

BECAUSE HE CAN HOLD A DAMN CONVERSATION…. HE SHOULD MAKE POLITIC POLICY AND BE IN CHARGE OF A STATE?!?! 😬🥴

[@25McDermott]

Shit if you ever see him in an airport you might as well ask him to fly the plane, with this kinda thinking🎃

[@knighthawk34ps3]

Yet he’s the one who started the topic and instigated it 😹.

[@robertjosephjr3718]

Any thing Ryan does I’m going to support it. He and Deion sanders are among the greatest orators of our time.

[@thevinceberry]

@@25McDermott That's pretty much what politicians do, talk all day and do nothing.

[@najeebaker4197]

Ryan Clark reminds me of a older guy. Like born in the 50s. His wisdom and control of situations are unmatched

[@callsignoutlaw]

19:32 He is speaking truth. That’s never going to be an easy conversation to have. It’s clear Aaron’s family & friends have been through a hell they didn’t ask for or deserve.

[@patriciajohnson9191]

I am so happy as a black woman that I ran across this on IG. This is how we agree to disagree with others. This is how we become open minded individuals. I literally listened to what all of these amazing men had to say. I love the vulnerable moments, I love the transparency, I love EVERYTHING. I have never really listened to podcasts but this one is up. Gotta binge watch these episodes like I do other things that I like. 💙💙💙💙💙

[@ceofeleciafoster9250]

Yas! So respectful.

[@danielmeuler2877]

I agree, this Country really needs to learn how to have conversations where we can "Agree to Disagree". Respect for others' opinions has gone out the door. It makes it so tough conversations can't be had. I believe It's a "Divide and Conquer tactic" that America has fallen for.

[@keyfield8967]

Those pouncey clones love them some rebeccas down there in 'Deliverance' Florida...

[@soundwave6281]

​@@keyfield8967 smh...be better

[@LandonUesele]

Pouncey twins are DAWGS. We were blessed to have Maurkice in Pittsburgh.

[@withlove827]

As an identical twin that played two sports with my sister, this interview was phenomenal on so many levels! To see and listen to the love, respect, and support they have for each is something I’m uniquely blessed to also experience with my sister!!! I’m loving this podcast more and more!!!

[@zkash0824]

Pouncey Twins and Tracy Mcgrady!!!!!!!!!!! The Pivot is deep in the Polk County Florida waters. I really appreciate this Pivot.

[@theressakimbrough2867]

Great convo. Don't agree with the twins on Trump but appreciate them being able to explain why. This is how grown people have a disagreement and move on when you see there's no budging in opinions. 👏👏👏RC!!

[@jamesthomes303]

Stand on what you believe in PERIOD

[@repone817]

I agree with them. Especially with what we have in office now. Great show

[@Carolinakid1984]

@@repone817 I agree on some things too

[@walkerenterprise1764]

They from Florida and RICH of course they are down for Trump

[@user-ik5ze1sh7i]

Say what you will about trump but how can you call yourself black and support the dnc when they literally use to hang you from trees madness

[@dontask4515]

Ryan Clark killed this episode, loved how he explained a different view with the political discussion.

[@lamart7820]

When People Saying Ignorant Things You Have To Correct Or Balance The Conversation Cause People Watching Will Step Away With The Ignorant Things Are Facts

[@cpeezy02]

Dope convo. We can agree to disagree. And not name-call and cuss. Very professional on both sides. Dope ass show. Don't miss an episode

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[@dAaronL5]

Pausing this video to say how much an appreciate RC. He didn’t have to say anything and could have just let them go on misinformed about the actual issues on that topic. It often seems that when people speak about this they don’t necessarily grasp the true issues we talk about. Thank you Ryan Clark.

[@fredleeland2464]

The actual issues aren't the point they were making though They were addressing the one issue that people like to try and make something else Police are gonna be more nervous in areas where police aren't liked, same as the people in those areas are gonna be more nervous The thing that needs to be fixed is the perception of the police and the areas need to be made nicer, but those things aren't happening because of history and lack of help that darn sure isn't coming from Dems

[@theroninmike6017]

@@fredleeland2464 finally someone in the comments actually listening to what they’re saying.

[@legacychapterwealth5761]

They aren’t misinformed at all…they were saying that we need empathy on both sides to make real progress. If you are from the hood, you know this…

[@damonpenny5311]

I swear this was an amazing show. Not only because I’m a Gator fan and it’s a bunch of Gators in the room but the twins are funny. Man the Pivot feels like some guys hanging under the tree just chopping it up about life. Positive vibes. I love it.

[@Skittleboys]

Aaron Hernandez is the best Tightend in NFL History 👏 R.I.P 🙏🏼🕊🏈

[@laurenrussell9869]

No he is not....trippin

[@ryan8165]

He's not even top 50 lmao

[@treybrown3690]

Another phenomenal Pivot Podcast, gentlemen! Thanks, Channing C., Ryan C., Fred T., Maurkice P., and Mike P.! Appreciate you gentlemen sharing your story with us. Go Steelers!

[@luisc7453]

Great pod cast fellas I’m a police officer of Cuban decent And grew up in Carol City / I’m not a celebrity and I know it won’t happen but I would love to sit with you gentlemen and a good group of minority officers including black men and women to really discuss police situations and mentality . Our perspective is never seen . stay blessed

[@thecitykidz1371]

That would be so lit man

[@mechiloc7]

Ryan I salute you for. Being able to keep a level head and staying cool but at the same time able to stay professional as well as bringing that knowledge. Always well spoken Salute brother

[@johnhightower5364]

This so deep some of our youth High school football players went on a trip to Florida and they met Chico. They told me his whole vibe was so wonderful Aaron people were coming to him like freshman asking were this building was and just help around Gator land. They had a wonderful time with him. RIP AARON.

[@StrickMr11]

Great interview. Growing up in Lakeland, and being the same age as the pounceys, just at GJ, you always heard the legend of their athletic prowess. Nobody ever talked about their character. Both of them balled out throughout their careers, but the way they carried themselves, as men, is something that makes both of them legends.

[@judmagers7428]

As a dude that played offensive lineman, and also watched the Steelers alot growing up, this was so awesome to see. Was a huge fan of these guys, an now hearing their life stories and perspectives was fulfilling. Thank you Pivot gang, love y'all fr!

[@jamesmccarthy3429]

This was without any doubt one of the best & most powerful discussions on the pivot thus far. I have never had the chance to listen to the Pouncey’s talk in depth and I wasn’t expecting what we got here. We’ll done Pivot team. Pouncey brothers… keep doing your thing, using your voice/platform to spread knowledge. I don’t agree 100% with all their beliefs but man… listening to a calm, educated discussion like this was so damn refreshing. Cheers from Boston. - James M.

[@Retsamad]

Had a Communications class at Florida with the Pouncey twins. I will never forget the years they were at UF. It was good times. Didn't miss any home games during the 2006-2010 years and even made it out to FL vs LSU in 2009.

[@RentonThurston1010]

Pouncey Twins stood on their square 💯

[@craigodix7712]

Ryan was on game here and is a craftsman with his words and pushbacks. This was a great great episode. I'm from the UK so hearing black/biracial men discuss trump was quite interesting for me as I'm also biracial. The different people seeing things in other peoples shoes and walks of life is such a understatement to the society we are in. Massive respect lads

[@calvinfelton4077]

Ryan RC is an amazing moderator. He proves it every week. He really showed it today.

[@anthonyfalice2421]

I so agree that our government needs to do more for its people here.Not saying we can’t help other countries but we need to put millions into our people here.

[@ezed3354]

Wow, what a family. Thank you RC, Fred, and Channing.

[@TheSportsandFilmFellowship]

Love the Pounceys !!! They are legends. Amazing episode. Love the Hernandez talks 💪🏽💯

[@Stay_Dangeross]

Since we got twins, I want them to bring Tiki and Rhonde Barber on the Pivot in the future.

[@nickelbus7596]

Good idea!

[@kermitsippintea7433]

That would be dope.

[@aenriquez1987]

I can’t express enough how amazing this show is. The content. The pure authenticity of it all is truly amazing. Bcuz how these guys go about there business on this show I’ve been privileged enough to be able to see many different perspectives on so many things. We all know what social media can do to someone’s character and good name. Now I’m not speaking purely on this episode but the show overall. Thank u for giving the players and ppl a voice to be heard in there way. I salute all u 3 of y’all. Don’t ever break up. Always continue to grow and elevate each other. 🔥🙏🏻

[@n2olan7]

This was real man! One of the best episodes yet. You all are great at revealing elite athlete’s humanity-their struggles and triumphs. Powerful! Thank you Pivot Podcast!

[@craigslist9176]

This has got to be one of the best podcasts I've ever watched. FINALLY, a conversation about politics, where people can be civilized and debate, without getting mean and nasty. Very nice to see. Also, the ALL the stories they told, had me locked in to hear every word. Being a lifelong Steelers fan, this was excellent. Great job!!!

[@chelisajeffries3572]

PLEASE get Percy Harvin on the show!

[@jalenad11]

He was probably the most underrated player on that team. He was COLD

[@chelisajeffries3572]

@@jalenad11 Percy Harvin was the absolute TRUTH! Even when he got to the league.... when he was on the field he was a problem!

[@vernongoolsby851]

@@jalenad11 huh?? How was he underrated on that team?? Everybody knew it was him an tebow..unless you saying hes underrated compared to tebow..meaning tebow got the most credit..most QBs get the most praise

[@jalenad11]

@@vernongoolsby851 That's what I'm saying. Harvin avg almost 10yds per carry and almost 15yds per reception but it got overshadowed by Tebow.

[@vernongoolsby851]

@@jalenad11 agree 100%..he was something special. Probably coulda beat bama tebow senior yr if Harvin didnt leave for the draft. Helluva player

[@coreylens]

1:01:01 Channing just casual drinking out the bottle 😂😂😂

[@BrianArmstrong357]

You saw that too...🤣🤣🤣

[@dmarin272]

Bro this man is just naturally funny didn’t even speak and just watching him sip I’m crying 💀🤣

[@ingriddouglas6181]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@UhuruYusuf]

When you can have a guest on your podcast, disagree with them, but in a way that is colloquial and civil, is a teaching moment. "The Pivot", with experience by its hosts are journeying into the realm of next level viewing. Another enlightening episode.

[@FACTZ973]

Shout out to the Pouncey brothers. Them boys are REAL twins✊🏾

[@christianpaolantonioUFL]

Bro this show is so fire, NEVER change the format

[@shineobsessed4221]

Great conversation as usual fellas and props to Ryan for pushing back, one Id like to set record straight about is HBCU funding. It was more of a photo op for him as many other did the work to get it to his desk, at the end of the day it hit his desk and he sign but so did Obama, Obama just didn't turn it into a photo shoot (to Ryans point)...For Obama there just wasn't an actual bill attached it was included in his yearly funding request to congress and congress regularly approved. What they didn't mention is in the years after Trump signed that bill in 2019, every year after when his office submitted budgets they requested congress cut/reduce the funding earmarked for HBCU's......

[@johnrichardson595]

Probably the best total conversation out of all the shows...loved it...much love

[@InspectorButters4]

RC, Freddy T and Chan just killing it!! Every week I'm saying I just saw the best episode of the Pivot ever, then the next show Im saying the exact same damn thing!! Lol, The Pouncey Bros are a trip and this was a fun one!! No nasty talk from Chan did have me disappointed tho 🤣

[@taracrane2127]

Ryan Clark did great explaining and bringing the political conversation back to sports! 👏🏼 Th

[@alexandernunez245]

Another amazing hour of my time. Every single time. RC is special man. He truly can just run a room. Love hearing about his playing days too and the dog he was. He’s elegant, soft spoken, laid back but has a fire and dog in him that you don’t want to come out. Love it. Chan And Freddy are money too! Favorite show of all time. Seriously. Hands down.

[@cheylastar7]

I absolutely love Ryan Clark. He’s so intelligent honest and fair. He’s level headed. Listens to understand not to respond and he’s definitely great at communication. He deflected an argument and kept it as a discussion. I wouldn’t of been able to do that on this one

[@morrismanley2236]

This truly was a great show. You guys did a sensational job in asking the right questions.

[@dken1149]

Love this conversation and love their point of view on the game of football because a lot of former players are shunning football and not wanting their kids to play this beautiful game of football so I love that they don’t scare their kids away from the game

[@joshuasaylor3467]

Shoutout to the p twins for keeping it real and speaking the truth

[@davidbeck1081]

RC, Channing Crowder, and Freddy T y’all are amazing. I watch every episode that y’all drop. These episodes have helped me get through situations and difficulties in my life just by seeing how your guests and y’all handle the everyday situations and difficulties that we all go through. You guys are do amazing things that resonate with all races and cultures. Can’t wait for the next episode. Be blessed and stay safe out there and I love y’all.

[@DFRTKYND]

Another great episode guys. Salute to the Pouncey bros for always keepin it 3000

[@makeHimknown3]

RC is so respected thats was how he was able to control the room. great job RC

[@LJ5-40dad]

Great interview! Pouncey Twins for sure some real ones.

[@diegotheyorkie1420]

Damn these boys is YATTED 😂😂 Polk county in the building!

[@sherlena4836]

Great job RC on your push back against the twins narrative of 45. More importantly, RC’s response regarding tax breaks and his people (Black people) was on point. I’ve also heard Freddy T. respond in this manner in the past. Our individual bank accounts shouldn’t dictate our consciousness for our people. Great interview with the twins. Very talented.

[@03Man11]

“Our individual bank accounts shouldn’t dictate our consciousness for our people”. I love that! I will have to steal that quote.

[@plattjkp]

RC did a great job corralling it back to a civil conversation. Once you start talking over eachother, making points or not men don’t hear that.

[@MyBigMeech]

Good way to pivot, you guy's don't Miss. Flowers for the twins 💐💐

[@orlandusdaniels9386]

Great interview. Great podcast. Always enjoy the topics

[@jamesholyfield3304]

I’m amazed at how much they have slimmed down from being NFL centers

[@Nick-dq5fo]

Hard eating all that food to stay at that weight

[@byronblackmon4507]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@ChrisXCXCX]

It's about health. They get in get there money get out and slim down.

[@CharlieXFBA]

@@Nick-dq5fo LOL no it ain't. It's actually the other way around.

[@zelbongrimmage3770]

These some good dudes

[@marcsydell8391]

There is nothing stronger then a Brothers Love, another amazing show with 2 dope amazing dudes that have an incredible story to tell.

[@Freedom.1776]

Pouncey twins are good dudes. Major respect

[@Middy3]

These type of conversations are healthy and I love it

[@kynix3532]

Great podcast with the Twin Dawgs and salute to RC for maintaining the container and pivoting when the convo was getting touchy!

[@sandraammons3116]

Thank you guys for another awesome show man I learned alot about The Twins

[@tgunna45]

Love The Pouncey Brothers! Love This Podcast For Giving Them A Chance To Express Themselves

[@tlp1160]

Master interviewer Ryan Clark awesome job keeping your composure and making a great pivot In the Heat of the Moment

[@eriklatham9384]

Realist podcast yet. Pouncey twins always keep it 💯 being Florida boys!!

[@__Zeus7]

This was a great interview i felt every emotion in this interview shout out to the Pouncey Twins!

[@darecussmith7013]

Good conversation. Salute RC for grabbing control of the convo before it went left. Great careers Pouncey twins 🙌🏽

[@Dtducyduce]

I love this episode sm Man they both so real & authentic, such a breath of fresh air 💯🔥🔥 shout out da Pouncey twins 🤝

[@michelleharrison6464]

You all are Pros at this. You balance each other perfectly. Amazing content! Thank you!

[@rollinjeudy7878]

💯💯💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 , Once again Amazing Episode, Amazing Guests. SHOUT OUT TO CC RC FT AND The Twins. Overall Thanks to the ENTIRE PIVOT PODCAST CREW . KEEP it Coming.... I Appreciate It.

[@mechiloc7]

Channing brought one of the best questions, if you wasn’t rich would you have the same outlook

[@diegotheyorkie1420]

Fred Taylor from the Muck! ✊🏽

[@alesanaulu6623]

By far the best Podcast on any platform.. continue blessing the world Guys!! Happy holidays to you and your families..

[@buckybeaver1998]

I love this show it's fun informative and it seems like the convos go so smooth

[@kcsmith2176]

Great conversation keep it up! Something we as people need to think about it. From Hernandez and Politician!

[@terrydawson6799]

I went to the University of Florida with these guys. They threw the best parties in Gville.

[@damientrahan1186]

This the best interview I've heard was not saying I don't do a good job but the people y'all interview these brothers really opened up and showed the world who they was and and I really enjoyed this

[@papapeeps85]

Love when The Pivot brings on other Gators.

[@garre0034]

Dope Episode!!! I Love to see us have different point of views but keep it civil and still Love each other when it’s said and done…✊🏿

[@aquabayb4309]

I really like the Pouncey Twins! This was a really good interview.

[@DannyHoldStatenislandny]

Great damn PIVOT BOYSSSS. love the vibeee

[@Malitubee]

Bruh I love the authenticity of these dudes! I was a huge gators fan back when they played , but never really got to see their personalities up until now

[@2xxxx732]

Drunk and high that's a myth love these guys🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@c-richbudzz152]

Love hearing from them on aaron!much ❤️ very curious to hear from close friends and family he missed ❤️ ♥️

[@by_gravityz2063]

Loved this episode especially when they talked about Hernandez

[@krystalthomas4858]

Great job with navigating the interview RC! Discussing politics can be tough but you all just demonstrated how disagreements can be respectful. This is why PIVOT is my favorite podcast.

[@ceofeleciafoster9250]

This interview was amazing! Thank you. My first time hearing of them. Going to find every interview. I love intellectual independent thinkers. Black folk who think. I’ve been over waiting for the government to rescue me. I’ve always said with money the conversation is elevated. They need a podcast too.

[@Patrick-ml1mg]

Dope convo and episode. Awesome to see 4 of my Gators 🐊💯 get together and chop it up with a tiger.

[@MoneyClipsSports]

This was dope giving us insight on some legends that the culture needed 💯✊🏽

[@carlalexander6121]

The moral of this interview is there can be disagreement and people can believe and have differences in conversation but in the end are we coming up with a plan of action that’s going to benefit the situation for good. One thing we see is the twins are about action and passion for the community.

[@damonpenny5311]

Man there needs to be a part 2 because the show was just that great. I like the fact that the twins vote for themselves.

[@uncleblade4947]

Great show!! Great content! I love how they don’t hold back even on the political issues. RC, Channing and Freddie T…..keep up the great work!

[@the_red_wolf6196]

Great episode from start to finish, thank you Pivot for putting out great content