NFL Week 16: The Overreaction Monday Podcast with Rich Eisen & Chris Brockman - Dec. 23, 2024

[@darkritualpass]

Thanks for getting this out during the holidays for us! Happy holidays to all the cast and crew of the show, see you guys in the new year!

[@mochabean5692]

My overreaction: it’s time for the Cardinals to have conversations about Kyler Murray’s future

[@robertpawelek]

But who else would want him? He has already peaked, and hasn't impressed anyone in doing so...

[@CalebsCars]

Been that time for a while.

[@seqouiaflame]

Not an overreaction.

[@lancesilvis4085]

You should never pay someone a ton of money when you have to tell them in a contract that they are required to do their job instead of play video games. Unreal that adults thought that a clause like that was necessary and that it was justified to pay that much money to that player at the same time!

[@adampratt1925]

Kyler to NYJ! Book it!

[@SenorHomeslice]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Rich’s ring light reflecting perfectly around his eyes is… wallpaper-worthy.

[@mattcarberry368]

it's actually very distracting lol he's gotta adjust that thing

[@atg1338]

So nice to have guys not talking about Aaron and the Jets.

[@ButteryAftertaste]

The logic of complaining about the college football playoff having too many teams due to the potential for blowouts, while almost the entire mystique and entertainment value of the NCAA basketball tournaments is built upon the acceptance of blowouts and the mere possibility of upsets and Cinderella runs absolutely baffles me.

[@cipher4e]

yeah maybe alabama should have just not lost 3 games if theyre gonna cry about other games being bad. who cares? its a sports competition not a hollywood movie

[@hemp4haters]

Basketball and Football are 2 different sports? There are CLEAR differences between the 2-3 best teams and cute cinderellas (ie: Indiana, etc). Boise State might win a game - but to go through a gauntlet of superior teams won’t happen in between the trenches of Football. Imo

[@wingedbuffalo4670]

Great points. I think -- secretly -- the only people who are really complaining about "blowouts" are the "poor sport" members of the SEC and other big conferences who believe they are "ENTITLED" to be in the playoffs just because of their "name" and past "legacy" (never mind the fact that they lost multiple games they shouldn't have if they wanted to be in the playoffs). So they badmouth the teams who lost handily in Round 1 of the playoffs but who had nonetheless EARNED the right to participate in the playoffs (having achieved much better records with only 1 loss).

[@ButteryAftertaste]

@@hemp4haters you are entitled to your opinion, but other than your point about basketball and football being different sports, I completely disagree. It is basketball, and not football, that has had more historically dominant teams and unstoppable dynasties. This is true for both college and pros. Whether UCLA winning 7 straight in mens, UConn winning 4 straight in women's, or the Celtics winning 8 straight NBA titles, it is as a matter of fact basketball that has the greater propensity for separation between the haves and the have nots, not football. By this logic, we should be MORE open to a football playoff, and LESS open to one in basketball. The truth is far more likely that people became used to what was in place, and anything that changes the status quo was always going to upset some people.

[@benoitwaffle5439]

A lot of this is simply the legacy of the role of perception in college football. The history of the college basketball tournament makes it so that fans can embrace the full spectrum of possibilities because we know in two of three years Duke can lose to Lehigh and Mercer in the first round or Kentucky can lose to St. Peter's and Oakland in that same span. You cannot remember who Purdue thumped in the 1st round last year, but everyone remembers Farleigh Dickinson beating them the year prior. Ultimately, though, the champion wins it, and earns it. College Football has never operated in a functional way. It is a setup where champions are given not won. It creates these delusions and entitlements, because nobody's favorite team ever loses the imaginary game that only takes place in their head. Alabama lost to Vandy and got smoked by a bad Oklahoma team. Nothing that happened to SMU, Indiana, Clemson, or Tennessee takes that off their resume. In its final seven FBS games, Oklahoma was outscored 162-66 in its six losses and beat Alabama 24-3. Yet, there are people who think there is no possible way Alabama gets smoked @Penn State, @ND @Texas, or @OSU. It is possible no matter who gets those final spots, because when games actually get played there is a full spectrum of possibilities. It is also possible the games are actually good next year even if the same exact process of selection is used.

[@snoworicehockey]

I think Darnold’s poise in Seattle on the game winning drive was MVP caliber. KOC’s headset went out and Sam calmly called a QB run play to the sidelines by KOC for 9 yards, then got the play call from Kevin on the sidelines before he ran back to the huddle. Then throws the dagger to Jefferson stepping up in the pocket, knowing he’s going to get blasted by two defenders.

[@pretzelhunt]

All evenly-valuable cogs to the machine. He isnt individually standout enough.

[@Jigman51]

@@pretzelhunt If only he had lost 5 games so far this year, he would be a shoo-in.

[@allend5399]

​@@pretzelhunt L take

[@burgersworth4870]

@@Jigman51lazy take. Stop it.

[@pretzelhunt]

@@Jigman51 Wins isnt a quarterback stat, newb

[@frankez99]

I’m 50 and have suffered many a poor Redskins/WFT/Commanders season since 1991. This is refreshing for us who stayed loyal for the players (not Snyder). I was spoiled growing up in DC with the Redskins in 4 Super Bowls in 10 years. Anyhow, the biggest acquisition this year for the Commies wasn’t so much Daniels, but year 2 of Josh Harris as the owner. He’s mended so many broken relationships with former Redskins legends and with investors and businesses. I’m proud to be from the 202 and call myself a Commanders fan. Have a Merry Christmas everyone (yes, including Cowboys fans) 🎄

[@OotoriKyouya]

Prepare to add another backlash to the list of teams formerly known as Redskins. Commanders will be replaced with a new name within the next 2 years

[@Ice-Blade]

Redskins!

[@frankez99]

@OotoriKyouya I don't doubt that..... uniforms need attention too

[@hemp4haters]

Can u please get the team to ditch the sparkly matte-red helmets? Just stick the traditional burgundy & gold!!

[@frankez99]

@ ummmm 1983? 😂 Football much?

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

Patrick Mahomes finally broke Brockman! 😂😂

[@BK-hp8cj]

He's been off his rocker about Chiefs/Mahomes for several weeks now. The closer KC gets to 3-peat the more absurd his brain breaks. At some point he will find a reason to flop back

[@mildchaos6037]

@@BK-hp8cjfunny thing is. The Chiefs could lose in the 2nd round and people would jump all over them. But to be back to back champions already is insane. A 3 peat is bonkers. The Chiefs have the least to play for in the entire AFC. All the pressure is on the other teams

[@stevendaniel6784]

It looks like the Chiefs are starting to make him depressed

[@mikemorgan5015]

You DO realize that these are "takes" he floats for controversy, right. Chris is a sharp dude. He listens to the buzz and pick out some common narratives and some wild ones. It's fun and entertaining, but it's not always or even usually HIS opinion. It's a slice of some of the BS from Bart Scott or similar taking the opposite stance against reality. But it's mixed in such a way that he doesn't come off as and idiot like Scott does.

[@Jerid58]

@@JohnDrummondPhoto He's showing cracks. Hope he can hold it together until February! 😁

[@jemas09]

Brockman still has a few steps left in the 7 stages of grieving about the chiefs

[@brandonhubbard5258]

Still hilarious that they will get there with some weird call by the refs that will decide a game. Best team in history who also gets the luck of the penalty gods. Just kinda dumb.

[@sirhoopalot1125]

@@brandonhubbard5258game is 3 hours long and the ref ruined the entire game by one call 😂

[@mattcarberry368]

@@brandonhubbard5258 people really gotta stop crying about this stuff as if there aren't bad calls/missed calls/no calls in EVERY SINGLE FOOTBALL GAME EVER PLAYED EVERY WEEK lol like seriously it's so soft and clueless..... don't hear people crying that the Texans were getting help last week when their first TD play had TWO BLATANT penalties against Houston that weren't called (obvious hold as Stroud escapes pocket, Schultz massive push off to get wide open in end zone), yet nobody is saying the refs try to help the Texans win or what about week 1 Buffalo winning on a 4th down at the last second when they get away with a blatant DPI at the goal line, how come nobody starts making lists of all the "lucky" breaks they get along the way or what about last year when the refs called back an awesome lateral play because Toney was 6 inches offside, a call that we almost never see made in any scenario over something that literally nobody on Earth would have noticed if that one ref didn't call it, which essentially lost KC the game AND gave Buffalo playoff home field advantage.... yet nobody was saying how "unlucky" the Chiefs were, nobody was saying there was some ref conspiracy to help the Bills this selective whining about the refs when it comes to Kansas City is actually just reaching pathetic levels, it's all people do now and it's simply just *WEAK*

[@skysoldier1733]

Love this segment. Something fresh to think about

[@walterhollman8735]

As a Washington C's fan, I'd normally agree about Atlanta, except Penix played college ball at the University of Washington. Cold ain't bothering that guy or his arm. Definitely not taking him for granted.

[@allend5399]

Redskins? Right on. Skol vikings. But big respect to Daniels

[@atg1338]

I watched every game he played in Washington and yes weather doesn't effect the kid

[@georgelucas2571]

He also played in Indiana for the first 3 years of his career.

[@drewposey5014]

Favorite part of Monday!

[@JourneyOfPurpose]

"...and you know, like a hand over your face at a horror movie"....LOL classic by Rich explaining Patrick at end of game..

[@darcyj0980]

SKOL! Thank you for acknowledging how awesome the Vikes are doing this year!

[@mattcarberry368]

Hey! The Vikes are doing awesome this year! you're welcome lol 😎

[@rickhaavisto9023]

Here’s a prediction. A 14 win team from the NFC North is going to go on the road in the wild card round and there are going to be talks this offseason to have divisions only guarantee a playoff spot, not a home playoff game.

[@michaelmaniloff9297]

Should have happened a long time ago.

[@drewblock1365]

​@michaelmaniloff9297 if they do that they should get rid of divisions. No reason to have them at that point.

[@michaelmaniloff9297]

@@drewblock1365 im good with that. I'm good with just taking the best 7 from each conference.

[@tomvan6008]

I agree a division = a spot in the playoffs The home field is determined by win/loss record.

[@LionsTigersPistonsWings]

There is an easy fix. The division winner with the lowest record doesn’t automatically get a home game. They need to have a better record than 1 of the other 3 WC teams. Thats a simple enough adjustment without blowing it all up. This would mean that Atlanta would have to travel to Minneapolis or Detroit if they limp in. Fair enough.

[@upstatenydude8322]

I just made a game changing discovery. Going forward, I will always watch these clips at 1.25 playback speed.

[@James-hd4ms]

I’m going to try it right now.

[@James-hd4ms]

Excellent. Thanks.

[@upstatenydude8322]

@@James-hd4ms Enjoy

[@mdsable]

Brockman has just cursed the Chiefs. LOL his last shot.

[@Chiefs555]

This is definitely his hail Mary 🙌

[@codyw5404]

"hold your hand in front of your face like you know what's coming in a horror movie" - Rich, you are so good

[@namenotavailable7365]

The 1 thing you can count on watching the Rich Eisen Show is a different NFL season MVP front runner (or sometimes aleady locked up) being touted every week lol

[@MioInTheLandOFaraway]

Week 6 was the Vikings bye week. They were still undefeated when you guys made the prediction of them missing the playoffs

[@kbrewers]

As a vikings fan, im glad they are finally getting some media steam. And also, even the packers, who did beat Seattle handily the week prior. They are going to be a tough out too. Playoffs are gonna be nuts in teh NFC

[@KCgirl-66]

I swear I saw tears in Brockman's eyes when he talked about the Chiefs winning! 😂

[@catwmn2345]

Like passing a gallstone 😂

[@richardhairgrove3993]

And he’s a patriots fan! He got all of these supposed “BREAKS” when his team was winning all the time. So all this crying is Rich (pardon the pun) coming from Brockman.

[@TheLumpyOne]

Yup. Funny how the Bills losing to the Texans & barely beating his 3 win Patriots is fine, but he had nothing but trash to talk about the Chiefs' close wins over multiple playoff teams. He's so petulant and salty. Chiefs living rent free in Brockman's dome.

[@TheLumpyOne]

For real. Brockman looked like someone ran over his dog or something. But the audacity to not give the Chiefs ANY credit for any win, and allege that they've only been lucky for the entire season. Old Chris Bayless, oops, I mean Brockman has finally jumped the shark.

[@quinnjackson9252]

@@TheLumpyOne Its because the Bills have had three bad games this season and lost them all, whereas Kansas City has had 13 bad games and won them all.

[@Scaryharry55]

Good to see Brockman finally bend the knee to the chiefs

[@quinnjackson9252]

Chargers, Broncos, and Texans are all too squishy, but the Steelers, Ravens, and especially Bills would rather die than let Kansas City get to the Super Bowl again. Does Kansas City have what they need to kill all of them this time around? More than likely going to have to play 2/3 of them, and that is a tough combination.

[@bennyri2140]

@@quinnjackson9252They did it last season on the road. They will do it again at home this time.

[@quinnjackson9252]

@@bennyri2140 I don’t doubt the refs will try their best to make that happen, but KC hasn’t beaten a team over .500 by more than one score and has only beaten one good team so far. We’ll see how they look against the Steelers.

[@Longevitypersonalfitnessnj]

Steelers fan since 1971. Same OLD. Same OLD. Congrats on another winning season. Miss you Big Ben!!!

[@SafeUntilDawn]

LOVE the 10 week look back!

[@dylanholman3]

Jayden Daniels is having a great rookie season, but to say “best this century” is an overreaction. In 2004, Ben Roethlisberger went 13-0 in the regular season as a rookie to start his career, with 5 game winning drives, and beating the previously undefeated patriots and eagles later in the season on his way to a playoff berth. He then led a game winning drive in the divisional round, taking them to an AFC Championship game. All as a rookie.

[@brandonjusblong]

True but the he stealers was the stealers and was solid before big Ben and the commanders have been pretty bad for a long time but their both great qbs

[@sy12]

Sorry it’s not close. Especially when you consider how many pro bowlers were on that 2004 roster. Ben had 3 just on the oline with a great run game with bettis/staley and had the #1 defense. They rushed for almost as much as their passing per game lol

[@holdwhatdoor7629]

The Steelers went 13-3 in 2001, 10-5-1 in 2002 and had a down year and went 6-10 in 2003. Ben was drafted 2004 season, didn't throw for 3000 yards and had 17 tds to 11 ints in 16 games, with a solid supporting cast. The Commanders have been one of the worst teams in the league for years, earning the #2 overall pick last year and Daniels in his rookie season, with only Terry McLaurin. In 15 games so far has eclipsed 3300 passing yards with 22 tds thrown against 8 ints, with another 6 TDs rushed with over 700 rushing yards and he even missed almost all of the game with a rib injury against the Panthers. He still has one more game to add to his already better stats than Ben and technically because he missed a game with an injury the 17th game on the schedule could be included to accurately compare 16 total games in his rookie season to Ben's 16 total games started. He has his team at 10-5 currently that was 4-13 in 2023, 8-8-1 in 2022, 7-10 in 2021, 7-9 in 2020. The Steelers before Ben were 6-10 in 2003, 10-5-1 in 2002, 13-3 in 2001, 9-7 in 2000. They had a culture of winning, had a down year prior to drafting him. Daniels went into a far worse situation with a history and culture of losing in recent memory and took them from the second to worst team in the league to 10-5 and a great shot at the playoffs, with very little talent and putting up far superior numbers than Roethlisbergers rookie season.

[@thehallsofvalhalla7212]

What do you call a dollar for an ear of corn? Buccaneer.

[@colemilz]

A special Ho-Ho-Hovereaction Monday!!!

[@richardbuchko4910]

At this point, you change your "best team in the NFL" every week based on the results last week -- The Lions were the best and then they lost to a really good team, and so they weren't; The Eagles were the best until the lost to the Commanders and then they weren't; The Vikings are now after almost losing to a .500 team? If they lose to the Packers - then who is the new #1 - whoever had the best style points this week? Their game was better than the Lions? Don't forget who beat those Vikings. It's an overreaction because they have yet to beat the team in Detroit. The Lions lost to a very good AFC team, and even in that loss they showed they are still best in NFC, and over the course of the season, best in NFL. I can support that without even needing to pretend to fumble the ball!

[@JaredBruski]

😂 fact lol who have the vikings beat in the second half of the scheduling that is supposed to scare the top 2 teams in either conference?

[@quinnjackson9252]

Bills fan here and I completely agree. Had we lost to the Lions, we'd be number 10 in the power rankings right now. We beat the Lions, everyone says Josh Allen has clinched the MVP, then still beat the Patriots but in a way that hurts people's fantasy scores and everyone freaks out and says Allen isn't in the top three MVP candidates anymore. So stupid.

[@HlGHENERGY]

@@quinnjackson9252the bills were the first team we played this year that the fans werent horrifically annoying. I respect the hell out of the Bills, if I had to choose a team that wasn’t the Lions it’d be the Bills. Hoping for a Lions Bills superbowl

[@quinnjackson9252]

@@HlGHENERGY Thanks man, Bills Mafia loves Lions and their fans too. Lions fans are honorary Mafia members whenever we're not facing off against each other. Bills Lions Super Bowl would be a dream come true, although I have this horrible gut feeling that the NFL wants a Kansas City vs Philadelphia rematch, which I personally would HATE. Cmon NFL, let the Bills and Lions get a chance! Here's to 4 back to back Bills Lions Super Bowls where we split the record 2-2!

[@brianstickel6811]

It’s nice to see the Vikings getting the attention they deserve. Most sports commentators are still hating on them.

[@Scott-wq5lk]

Damn man I feel like I’m playing Star Fox in Rich’s glasses with the ring light effect

[@moasto02]

Getting to see Chris deliver his BS from the zoom angle is hilarious. 😂😂

[@tjhoward8412]

How about the Bengals offer up Jake Browning + a pick for Miles Garrett??? 🤔

[@jacobsims8307]

Who is Jake browning? Not happening.

[@Jeffdow1987]

They’d never trade him within the division

[@iamalan4221]

Tee for Miles straight up.

[@smallmouthmaster]

ya i love it

[@RFRRadioNetworkGaming]

The Bengals back up QB. He is darn good. ​@@jacobsims8307

[@jongrabbe5253]

@Brockman, I love it when you get that "cross examination attorney look" after Rich says "I'm gonna push back on this". Because you know you are going to agree with 90% of what he says, but you gotta play devil's advocate. Lol. My fav OR pod since you first started on the flagship.

[@tedsexton5406]

Same Vikings team all year, but Rich had them at #7 most of the year in his power ranking. Little late to the party . . .

[@Gungho73]

They have been unfairly maligned at this point as the team they are awaiting to turn into a pumpkin due to Sam Darnold, waiting for the other shoe to drop in January even when we were talking October ball. It's honestly getting a bit baffling to have Rich state his case for the rankings to be week-week and then week to week underrate a team with 13 wins that plays competitive in every game. I've said this elsewhere, my COTY vote would go to Dan Quinn for his absurd turnaround, but the fact the top 5 COTY lists rarely mention Kevin as even a 6th is beyond baffling at this point. I'm thinking half of it was some irritable pre season predictions assuming the Vikings would be 4th!!! In their division and seeing those boys up there continue to challenge Detroit for the division and potentially top seed in the playoffs and those pre-season analysts are holding it against them out of sheer pettiness and salt.

[@keithstone69]

#7 is fine, everyone was waiting for a collapse and it didn't happen and he was surprised

[@yl9941]

Why not wait till the playoffs and see? They might be one and done. Nobody knows until the last game.

[@davidgittleman2802]

Jared Goff is in the top 5 of all significant QB categories. Allen is 22nd in completion %.

[@JMichael-xc7uu]

Yeah, I like Goff. He has brought a lions team from being a laughingstock to being a team to beat. That Bomb to Jamiston I didnt think he could throw like that

[@quinnjackson9252]

Goff is great, but you can't call Allen worse than him. Allen is working in a completely different sort of offense this year, with 9/10 of his weapons being people who any other team in the league would have as option number five, yet he has led the Bills to be the second team overall in points scored. Allen had a far better completion percentage last year when he had more talent around him, and the Bills offense is set up completely differently this year. Last year it was throw the ball every time to one really good weapon for a high completion percentage, this year it's throw the ball to any one of 10 different guys, none of whom are elite top tier pass catchers and will have drops, but all of which are capable of stepping up when needed to break the back of any defense in the league.

[@corey2232]

Since when was completion % the defining factor of how well someone is playing? Yards? TDs? QBR? Turnovers? Passer Rating? Wins? But you went with completion %...to which Josh Allen is sitting at 64%. Big deal. He's also got 38 total TDs vs 7 turnovers, is number 1 in QBR, and is currently the 2 seed in the AFC. Biggest difference - Lions were predicted to be SB contenders this year. The Bills were expected to finish 2nd AT BEST. Most people predicted the Jets & Dolphins to finish ahead of them, and the Bills to regress significantly this year. The Bills receivers are averaging the 2nd lowest separation in the league. Compare that to the Ravens whose receivers lead the league in separation. Allen's played 2 months with a broken left hand & a glove on, defeated the best team in the AFC & NFC, and yall are acting like he's undeserving. Allen's got a great OL, but he's got the least impressive skill position players of the high winning teams. Not only that, but the ones he did have were often injured & missed significant time this season (Kincaid, Coleman & even Cooper for a couple games).

[@quinnjackson9252]

@@corey2232 Agreed, Allen is doing more with less. Not taking anything away from Goff, Allen is just doing unreal things time and time again.

[@ledhedded6393]

As a Bengals fan, I think it's cool that Rich finds a way to mention Cincinnati for one reason or another every week. A win against KC hasn't happened in awhile, but Rich made a point of mentioning the Bengals' success against Mahomes. (Ya gotta grasp at straws during a mediocre year!)

[@EraofDawn]

I'm a Chiefs fan, and I still get nervous when they play us, no matter how bad their record is. The Bengals are always going to be the team that has the blueprint, and it just so happened that the team let Joe Burrow down. The guy is a monster and makes it close or beats us at home. That said, I don't know of any QB that has a chance against playoff Pat unless it's Tom Brady or Joe Burrow playing. They beat all the others when they had the advantage years prior.

[@popuri48]

When the Chiefs win ugly against mediocre teams, the sky is falling. When the Bills do the same, they’re “gritty.” 😅

[@norrismannjr]

So true! Especially skip bayless

[@milokaye5662]

The exact opposite is true but if you wanna play the victim after winning 3 SBs in 5 years then be my guest

[@masterp2269]

Yup. People are just sick of them. It's a testament to how dominant they've truly been. Patriots got a lot of hate, but I don't think that was even this bad. Maybe because their dynasty hadn't even cooled off before this one got started.

[@ajfatca]

I feel like I have been watching different talk shows then you. Every ugly win by the chiefs its "ohhh they did it again, they find a way to win no matter what" (which is true)

[@distractedmasses8345]

No, you’re dead wrong. The media HATES that they are forced to cover the Chiefs. A midwestern media market compared to LA or NY? Please. We’ve ALWAYS been ignored, if it wasn’t for the 3 super bowls, we’d still be ignored. Even with the 3 super bowls, the media can’t wait to not have to talk about them. Big city smug media HATE my fly-over-state team

[@mildchaos6037]

I’m willing to call a truce with the Patriots fanbase here as a Chiefs fan 🤝 let us have our turn, you guys had 20 years 😭

[@Lsmokestrong]

This is so soft

[@quinnjackson9252]

1. Patriots fans would never accept that. 2. Every other team in the league would never accept that.

[@blakeandotherstuff]

17:10 in a three way tie scenario where Denver, colts and either Miami or bengals finish 9-8, colts get the 7 seed because conference record is the initial tiebreak. Then, Miami and Indy’s 7-5 conference record gets tie broken because Indy beat Miami head to head. Very interesting scenario but they have a chance

[@Gungho73]

Gonna say it again till im blue in the face. If you're arguing Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson are both MVP candidates, neither are.

[@paulmayer8654]

That makes 0 sense 😂

[@oblivionpro69]

@ paulmayer8654 It makes all the sense in the world if you know the history of the award and how it actually works bud

[@paulmayer8654]

@@oblivionpro69 🤣🤣 I somehow read that as Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson... Probably because Derrick Henry isn't really in the mvp conversation.

[@oblivionpro69]

@@paulmayer8654 I think he was at some point as #5 on some people's list's. Honestly if Saquon is he should be. I think they're tied in TD's and he's maybe 150 yds behind Saquon.

[@ThatTruckerCarGuy]

If the bengals somehow make the playoffs on burrows back he should be in the top 3 of mvp

[@jacobsims8307]

It’s his turnovers(12 I think) that have cost them some of these games, the strip sacks, 7 2nd half picks.

[@iamalan4221]

@@jacobsims8307 39 TDs, 8 INTs, 5 fumbles lost

[@ajfatca]

people thought that about Allen too last year after the bills won the division after being 6-6 at one point, it didnt happen

[@AFL67pitt]

Yes it’s should be most valuable to the team not best stats Lamar is great but Ravens can win without him Bengals ain’t beating anyone without Burrow

[@ThatTruckerCarGuy]

@@AFL67pitt i agree. Bengals would have the #1 draft pick without burrow with the way the defense has played

[@Blank-jt3nj]

A positive Lions overreaction? Is the world ending?

[@luvtasinga]

I hope so 😊

[@quinnjackson9252]

As a Bills fan, welcome to bandwagon central! You have a great team and great organization, but every time you win everyone says you're going to the Super Bowl, and every time you do anything less than win by 30 points and do something crazy they will drop you like a bad habit. Get's old fast!

[@rongardner9733]

Every week you guys have a different best team in the NFL.

[@giorgikharchilava7258]

That's why its called overreaction monday. The media always promotes the flavor of the week, at least these guys have the grace to tell you it's all just an overreaction

[@rongardner9733]

@giorgikharchilava7258 I haven't heard anyone in the media asked if the Vikings are the best team in the NFL. This year you have to wait until the super bowl ends. Right now there is no best team.

[@clintenos]

​@rongardner9733 there is a team that people think have the best odds to win the superbowl at this time... aka best team as of right now. So yeah, there actually might be a perception of best team right now.

[@alexroberto6353]

Big Ben was the best rookie QB this century. He led the Steelers to 15-1.

[@benliftin4awhile]

Jayden is about to beat his record for most rookie of the weeks awards, but ya, unless they win out and go deep in the playoffs, I’d say the crown is still Ben’s.

[@JerryGigowski]

I'm a lifelong Lions fan, but, I have to admit, the Vikings are a very good football team, that, for some reason, everyone keeps overlooking. They lost to a healthier Lions team by 2 points (albeit a Lions team without Hutchinson) and then lost the following game, as teams that play the Lions often do. And that was against a pretty good Rams team. These Vikings aren't fool's gold. Keep overlooking them and they will beat you. You can bet MCDC isn't going to overlook these guys. Obviously, I want my Lions to win the SB, but, if that doesn't happen, I hope it's the Vikings.

[@quinnjackson9252]

I think everyone has flashbacks to that season a few years ago where they performed similarly in the regular season but then went on to choke hard in the playoffs.

[@martymcfly7473]

The 2024 Quarterback class might be the best ever. Williams/Daniels//Maye/Pennix/McCarthy/Nix. Beautiful.

[@Razorbacks1]

McCarthy still hasn’t taken a snap yet in an NFL game.

[@martymcfly7473]

@ Maholmes didn’t start right away either. Rogers sat for two years. Just because he doesn’t take over immediately doesn’t mean he won’t be great. Darnold will sign a two year deal and we’ll develop McCarthy. He’ll be a great franchise Quarterback for many years. Culture and structure attract players that are willing to sacrifice money for championships. SKOL4LIFE

[@TheOsfania]

Good discussion, boys.

[@bigger680]

Problem with media talk is that they don't do research. Last year, Lions defense. Was a hodge podge of players, and they made it to the NFC conference. The Lions defense has a leader in Jack Campbell. Brian Branch, the two defenses are not the same.

[@quinnjackson9252]

Bills beat Lions: "Okay, Josh Allen has clinched the MVP." Bills beat Patriots: "No way Josh Allen is the MVP. He's overrated." Hot take bandwagoners are so stupid.

[@jeffhamilton8907]

Thanks for the sacrifice, working from home. ;-)

[@Neckrollios18]

I don't think Penix will win a playoff game. Heck, it's not even because of him they are on a trip to the playoffs - for that you can thank Cousins, and the Bucs totally blowing it in Dallas.

[@mythrapi73]

Happy Holidays to all.

[@chrisuncleahmad789]

The headline we overreact to next week: Miami Dolphins- not dead yet!

[@RobertParks-h7r]

As a Fins Fan,we need alot of help,but we have seen stranger upsets.

[@brianforney2098]

Rich the lighting on ur home office makes your eyes funny when your wearing your glasses

[@thefeezie]

Brockman. It’s your beloved Patriots man. I hated Tom Brady and the patriots for most of my adult life. Why? Because they always won, always hung around, got “lucky” and did it with guys off the streets sometimes. Now you are what we all were. Tried of seeing greatness.

[@nikky8000]

Excited for my weekly dose of Brockman Chiefs cope

[@pillarsofserpents]

back in the summer, I was saying 12 was too much for CFP. even if all the games were close and good, still too many. 8 is a perfect number.

[@montyzawinski6767]

The Steelers are still in it! Injuries on defense are hurting but George is coming back!

[@scottdickson1473]

Chris saying Chiefs will win the AFC? Is this the right channel?

[@Jerid58]

He bumped his head on the flight. 😂

[@cwagner4704]

That’s def uncharacteristic. Someone certainly must’ve bumped his head .

[@rodmills737]

No they won’t

[@bsmoove2357]

@@rodmills737they will keep hating

[@bennyri2140]

@@rodmills737until they do.

[@gman7495]

Chiefs defense is what's keeping them in the games. The Chief's defense is ranked 4th total, and 3rd against the rush.

[@hdrogers2909]

How confident Washinton looked in their win? Against Kenny Pickett? 🤣

[@michaelprenez-isbell8672]

The two NY teams, plus the Browns, only teams scored single digits in week 16

[@jacobsims8307]

Some sad teams.

[@axe2grind244]

There’s 1 NY team and they score 30+ points a game. NJ teams are terrible, that is true.

[@circletrianglesquaremusic]

A1. Happy Holidays. Go Buccaneers 🚢🏴‍☠️🏟️🏈🎄🎁

[@atg1338]

🤣🤣🤣they suck

[@circletrianglesquaremusic]

@atg1338 Buccaneers never claimed a winning season. Just because we're on wrecking crew time, Doesn't negate the prowess, that is a buccaneer. Pirates only attack you at sea. Buccaneers attack from Land and Sea. A1.

[@kimoakes1619]

Next year watch out for Drake Maye! They will make the playoffs if they draft the right athlete. 💪😄

[@jh-thorne151]

Brockman - where has he been? Has he heard the saying “The Chiefs are inevitable”? 😂😂

[@chrisuncleahmad789]

Here’s my Overreaction Monday Overreaction: The Buccaneers need to be all in on the Mike Vrabel Sweepstakes

[@eddiewinehosen6665]

They should lose Bowles and hire the OC they have now as HC!

[@ricknd97]

Nah, that's the Bengals

[@televisionsupervision]

I swear I’ve heard the Calais Campbell bit before

[@adam-bf3mi]

Y is it Not an overreaction when the Chiefs barely beat an opponent, but if Buffalo barely beats a team, there’s a problem. Very hypocritical

[@silkyhank]

When the Bills routinely win close games with amazing plays and incredible time management ON PURPOSE, then you can give them some leeway. But the Bills don't do that. They rack up as many points as they can so when they barely win a game, its a bigger worry because its not their norm.

[@NathanielGross1994]

Seems to be the same thing with the Vikings: Vikings blow out a team or never trail once (like 49ers): “San Francisco has never won in Minnesota since the 90’s” Vikings win by 1 score: “the other team has x amount of players out” Vikings lose by 1 score: “they have been frauds all along” It’s a tired argument.

[@oblivionpro69]

@ silkyhank I almost spit out my my drink reading your comment it was so ridiculous. Who kneeled out the clock yesterday instead of throwing down the field when they were inside the 40? I also need it explained to me how somebody fumbling a snap or the Chiefs a blocking a FG last second is some kind of “master game management strategy” please make it make sense

[@ali191]

The Texans fumble return TD wasn't called back for roughing, it was called back because the play was ruled an incomplete pass.

[@RyanHail-u4l]

Overreaction: The Eagles won’t get a post season win

[@jaketomtishen8607]

Not an overreaction

[@RedMage117]

Thats a very real possibility

[@seanulrich-qj3cf]

Definitely won't maybe 1 lose in the division round rams winning the superbowl dog lg

[@ji8044]

They would have killed the Commanders yesterday if Hurts hadn't gone down.

[@ericci85]

The Vikings were a deliberately missed holding AND facemask no call on their last scoring drive away from losing to Seattle and Philly lost three starters including their QB DURING the game. Pump the brakes already. Healthy Hurts vs Minnesota and they absolutely dismantle them. Not even a question.

[@adambliefernicht181]

Brockman is finally sounding like the public. When the team with the best record clearly doesn’t deserve it and is clearly being helped by the league. Welcome to the National Fixed League Chris.

[@brettinnis1807]

19:30 Does anyone else think that having an impact player easily switch teams after the deadline for 0 compensation is ridiculous?

[@BigRaji1981]

Yup it's equivalent to KD going to Golden State

[@Antwan50mobile]

It's weird that superbowls mean so much in such a prestigious league and yet these things still happen

[@SteveHancock-b7z]

Lol, nice try Brockman! Roughing the passer excuse when the replay showed a hit to Mahomes head, as opposed to Brady in the 2018 AFCC game that was called on Chris Jones when he brushed Brady’s upper shoulder pad.

[@kenbattor6350]

Mahomes' arm was moving forward. It wasn't a fumble.

[@quinnjackson9252]

Ball was flopping around before his arm went forward without it. That a fumble.

[@kenbattor6350]

@@quinnjackson9252 His arm was moving forward.

[@rhaegar_ii]

​@@quinnjackson9252arm was moving forward and it was a clear rtp (forearm to the head is called every time on any qb). If it wasn't the chiefs that replay doesn't get circulation anywhere it was a clear example of both rules being called correctly

[@quinnjackson9252]

@ yeah, arm was moving forward without the ball. All of the live play by play analysis’s agree with that.

[@kylorobb]

"Don't hate the player hate the game", Brockman. It was fixed for you too. JJ Watts said it's fixed on Mcafee in response to Farve taking a dive for Strahan.

[@johnprice7057]

How do you not mention Cam Newton when talking about best rookie QB seasons? Especially when talking about a scrambling QB

[@mazengwe28]

I wanted to say that, but 🐔' D out because I don't remember specifics of that season in case I got challenged. I know he had two 400-yard passing games with 100 rushing or something like that.

[@michaelbayha5557]

How can any knowledgeable football fan ignore Mahomes arm going forward (how did the ball go towards the line of scrimmage?). Not only thst but he took a forearm shot to the head too? Refs have been told to let any potential fumble play out as they can always put the time back on the clock. Brockman: "Chiefs got lucky they overturned that Texans fumble return.." With yhe next KC loss this season he will course correct and have a Cheshire Cat grin on his face.

[@Jeffdow1987]

Vrabel should coach either the Bengals or the Cowboys

[@EdByrns]

I was the coach btw

[@RawCiabatta]

Everything they said about Caleb, happened to Bryce last year Caleb even has Bryce’s former on and off playcaller as his interim HC

[@Mikethatguy7]

Vikes bounced round one

[@martyenglishiii5099]

They just won their last game of the season yesterday

[@darnell16player]

Happy of the Sam Darnold praise at last! You can’t be a QB that carries a whole team or organization. The Jets and Panthers are organizations that never learned to develop and build around the position as a whole. Sam is showing that he needed the cast around him and time to grow, and look at him! He’s balling this year!

[@andrewhern4736]

12 is perfect for CFB just like the basketball playoffs are perfect!! Maybe there wasn't an upset this year but maybe next year there could be. If every wildcard/divisional game in the NFL playoffs were blowouts there would never be a discussion about making the playoffs smaller. I think this format should stick around

[@jacksmith5562]

What this season has shown is how terrible Chicago organisation is with rookie QBs!!

[@Layahhayal]

Josh Allen did that to Goff and the lions with 20+ defensive players on IR!!!

[@corey2232]

Oh c'mon... If you want to go that route, you'd have to toss out all the injuries on the Bills D too. Also, Allen's been playing injured himself. But if it's so easy to defeat the Lions now because they're so hurt, guess we'll see the 49ers & Vikings do the same thing, right? They both have better weapons than the Bills, so obviously they'll put up 40+ points too!

[@ericneuharth3463]

Vikes were always going to be 11-6 or 12-5 this year with the roster and the coaching. Not sure what you were looking at on Week 8 but the weak part of the schedule was coming up. So 7-0 expected and they went 8-0. Sam got experience and talent, just takes great coaching to bring that out. Am not surprised at all as he has progressively gotten better all year with some rough stretches where we kept winning. I'm not sure we can win it all, but we do have a Top 5 offense and Top 5 defense and can make plays in the clutch to win. What else does a team need? Nothing

[@russellayers3408]

Didn't the Ravens get to the AFC championship with Flacco as a rookie?

[@warrencooper8155]

With the Vikings it’s gonna come down to Sam throwing a pick late in the 4th against the eagles 😢

[@SuperBadMcQueen]

Remember when Brockman guaranteed the Vikings were gonna miss the playoffs? 😂

[@darkwulf2k]

What is interesting is the #2 pick overall in the past 2 years is doing better/ has done better than teh #1 QB. Though Young is starting to look good, and Caleb hasnt been bad overall, but the fact Stroud and Daniels have out performed em....amazing.

[@thewerfs]

Rich always talks well of Vikings during these segments and then cheats them in his power rankings.

[@Getdadub_DC]

My overreaction is that the circular lighting reflection in Rich's glasses is very distracting. Lets go with overhead lighting when you wear glasses and the circular selfie lights for contact days?

[@robgotcher5908]

Been waiting for mahomes to break brockman lol 🤣😆😆 beautiful

[@martyenglishiii5099]

Going from 4 teams to 8 seemed more logical for the CFP

[@tervalas]

The 12 team playoff has been perfect so far. We've seen clunkers on a 4 team. We've seen clunkers when there wasn't a playoff and there was just bowls. To say that a couple clunkers this year means we shouldn't have done it is MASSIVELY SILLY. Also, wouldn't then you have to admit that if all the lower seeds had won that MORE THAN 12 should be happening? And that argument would be even more silly.

[@stevenmartinez872]

Shout out to uncle fester for filling in

[@GKL1954]

Chiefs had two missed balls in the end zone. And Hunt played down at the end. Game wasn’t close and they could have had another +21 points. They owned Houston

[@NathanThomas-ic5tq]

My Overreaction Monday: cheerleaders need more screen time than the referees.

[@RobertParks-h7r]

YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT

[@quinnjackson9252]

YES, and I don't even like the cheerleaders. Wait... what if we make the refs and cheerleaders switch places??? That would make the cheerleaders useful and the referee's entertaining!

[@DenBover-pf7xk]

26:11 he finally relents and then talks smack 😂 least we broke him 😂