NFL Week 4 Power Rankings: Bills dethrone Chiefs; Vikings in top 10 | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

[@Springy26]

Seahawks are 3-0 with a top-3 Defense and they sit at 16th behind the Commanders, Falcons, Ravens, and 49ers? That's the biggest travesty on this list

[@freeindeed5393]

Florio is a total joke!

[@JDderd]

Yeah this list makes no sense. They’re behind the commanders lol. I’m a bills fan and I don’t think the bills belong above the chiefs until they have common opponents. The commanders moved up 11 for beating a 0-2 team. Awful stuff

[@codyalger2792]

You realize the list is composed to cause reactions. Thats the point of television.

[@zmanmartin]

The Seahawks look really good and I’d put them above my Commanders, but the Seahawks schedule so far has been a little weak

[@sirtheodorefranciswindsor]

We played 3 back up qbs, stop crying until we get a quality win.

[@Airman297]

the disrespect on the vikings is insane

[@RyanatorMusic]

💯

[@UserTNumbers]

It's the QB question

[@grizlee1719]

They get past the Pack at Lambeau and then the Jets with Darnold playing well, the sky becomes the limit with this team.

[@laudanum669]

​@@grizlee1719 I'm a Vikings and to win both the Packers and the Jets games would be great, but I'll be happy if they go 1-1. After the Jets game the Vikings have a bye and both Hockenson and Addison should be back by then and the schedule gets easier.

[@zackaryolson7921]

@@laudanum669if you told me after week 5 we’d be 4-1 I wouldn’t have believed you, but there’s now here we are. There’s a real chance they’re 4-1 or even 5-0.

[@katmumn]

Thank you Packers should not be above the Vikings. Delusional.

[@Huntinggolds]

Bikes should be number 2 on this list

[@codyalger2792]

Lmfao R.E.L.A.X… relax People who know football know that the Packers are a better organization. It has only been 3 games. You can’t expect people to just sell their houses and buy stock in the Vikings already. The Vikings haven’t been good in a long time. It will take more convincing than just 3 games.

[@Nj-mt6bz]

They will objectively be above the Vikings next sunday

[@tswig]

Either should the eagles

[@blackermamba4321]

@@Nj-mt6bzso u agree it’s not objective this week. Good.

[@adamhelmen5842]

Even Tom Grossi doesn't put the Packers over the Vikings. Idiot list

[@HendersonHinchfinch]

Really he hates them lol

[@RaymondWard-c1y]

They don’t belong above the Vikings. SKOL!!

[@dennisgreen3757]

Florio typical Vikings fan SHTTING on the Vikings

[@xc.b3075]

😅

[@RedTideRTS]

The Vikings at 7 is a joke.

[@shav12]

This is the result of ranking with emotion and not logic

[@chetjablonski1993]

So happy for Sam Darnold!

[@buddysteele7624]

Sam Darnold wouldn’t be such a surprise for you guys if either of you ever bothered to watch film but we all know that’s never gonna happen, despite how much you guys say you love the game

[@bullzeyez3236]

Chiefs fans complaining about the Bills having the #1 spot. Both team have played so called weak teams but the Bills are blowing out those weak teams where the Chiefs are barely winning by a full score. Take a look at both teams point differential. Better questions is, why are the Chiefs struggling against weak teams?

[@peterwilson4865]

True statement.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

Facts

[@answeris4217]

@@bullzeyez3236 The refs are handing the Chiefs wins... the first game they only called penalties on the Ravens O line. The second they gave them a PI to give fieldgoal at the buzzer...and the last game they literally said that no refs saw the receiver getting tackled when the ball was in the air...in the endzone...

[@thefrozengoat]

@@answeris4217 STRONGLY AGREE. Anything to get Taylor Swift to jump up and down and smile on air. Insane.

[@AKA2PM]

The Chiefs never blow anyone out. They just win. 9 games in a row. One of them over Buffalo.

[@laudanum669]

Lions, Eagles and Packers all ahead of the Vikings? Makes no sense. After this week the Vikings will definately be ahead of the Packers.

[@knighthawk34ps3]

The Steelers at 4 is utter lunacy with Justin fields and their lackluster offense.

[@slumpt420]

Their defense is great tho

[@ajgarcia4359]

Florio is a die hard Steelers fan…

[@knighthawk34ps3]

@@ajgarcia4359 he says he’s a Vikings fan

[@knighthawk34ps3]

@@slumpt420 yet a great D and an average to below average offense warrants #4? That’s Ludacris. They havnt beat a “good” team yet. LAC are just solid.

[@slumpt420]

@@knighthawk34ps3 so the 49ers and Texans aren't good teams?

[@Jcs57]

How are the Packers and Eagles higher than Minnesota? You rank them where they are not where you are scared that they could potentially end up. 🙄

[@justsaying5633]

The only reason I would put the Chiefs ahead of the bills is because of the caliber of teams the Chiefs beat.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

Yeah all losing records.

[@answeris4217]

@@justsaying5633 Mahomes threw 4 INTs in 3 games and only manage to win games because of bad officiating. Everybody watched those games. Two were in primetime and the other one was a great game overall.

[@Nickdamamurray]

I agree, but in my opinion the dolphins are a solid team, not anymore, i dont care what any one says the cardinals are good. I agree that chiefs have beaten better teams tho thats obvious

[@adamant5550]

Uh Chiefs opponents have a combined 2-7 record lmao

[@adamant5550]

@@Nickdamamurray Is it? 0-3 Bengals, 1-2 Ravens, and a 1-2 Falcons. You are what your record says you are and, sorry, but they aren't very good teams.

[@lindabe11a]

Same here dude, 50 years, missed watching 1st bowl game, but saw the next 3 and cried after every loss, i know your saying and doing what your doing because u don't want to jinx the vikes

[@dawonplace]

Cheifs are 3. Vikings and Bills 2 and 1 respectively.

[@venom18s]

As a Packers fan even I have to say we shouldn't be above the Vikings RN. They have 2 wins over quality teams. We dumped on the Colts and Titans with a backup but those two are far worse than SF and Houston.

[@R3CIP3S]

You must be delusional… Vikings at seven? Yallz zmokin bad crank.😂

[@answeris4217]

Look at the teams ahead of them. They are all perennial playoff teams. This is September. My guess is that the Viks will move up after this weekend.

[@Gravnaut]

Mike, I agree. I'm a Joe Kapp era fan. My biggest fear is the Turf Monster taking a bite out of our qb without McCarthy to back him up. If Mullens could just learn to temper his gunslinger attitude just a little we'd probably be good.. Lord knows the "next man up" works for every other position on the Vikings roster with all our depth... but qb???? The Packers have proven they have 2 qbs.

[@RBCharger]

Last week Florio had the Seahawks at 21. I thought they would get a big jump this week - not because they improved so much, but because Florio was so wrong about that ranking. Out of all the rankings out there, Florio always has the Seahawks at the bottom of the spread.

[@dgoodman1484]

Heck I’m just happy my Niners are still hanging around the top 10! The way they have started, they could have been 23! lol ❤️💛💪

[@travisdayle5102]

The vikings at 7? Stop over compensating for your Fandom. Easily top 5. Should be number 3.

[@BoomMC_Inc]

Steelers, eagles, and packers above the Vikings are insane. The lions above them is just wrong.

[@klardfarkus3891]

Rankings are more appropriately viewed after the games. Reveals how little these people know.

[@glennnewell1896]

As soon as florio starts chirping you know he is ready to fly lmao!

[@billg5522]

Funny everyone else... someone check his medication 💊 1-KC chiefs: 0-3 Ravens, 1-2 Bengals, 1-2 Falcons, struggling in each game. 2-Buffalo bills: 1-2 Cardinals, 1-2 Dolphins, 0-3 Jags, two good games, one struggle. 3-Minnesota Vikings: 2-1 Giants, 1-2 49ers, 3-0 Texcans, All 3 dominated games, Defense: leads league in sacks, 2nd points allowed, 2nd in interceptions's. 4-Seattle Seahawks: 1-2 Broncos, 1-2 Patriots, 0-3 Dolphins, scores avg mid 20 per game. 5-Pittsburgh Stealers: 1-2 Falcons, 1-2 Broncos, 2-1 SD Chargers, number 1 in points allowed and 2nd in time of possession.

[@mythrapi73]

Florio trolling Seahawks fans as usual...also Florio for the fouth week a row had the most idiotic rankings in all of NFL media..should get Tree's LOL Cow of the week lmfao this is pure comedy relief probelm being he's dead serious but that's what makes it comdey GOLD

[@imaboss6244]

Vikings should be top 4 minimum. Who have the Lions, Steelers or Packers beat to prove they’re better? But then again, as a fellow Vikings fan, I understand

[@evanrichter3893]

The bills defense look pretty good on defense and both starting linebackers and their nickel corner are all hurt.

[@gdahlberg55]

These rankings are absolute garbage, I better not see you in a vikings jersey come Monday.

[@jaredmaciej7315]

As soon as you have faith in the Vikings, they let you down. So thank you for putting them 7th

[@answeris4217]

I'm a Bills fan. The only reason why Josh Allen played this good against the Jags is because of the media putting shade on the Bills for bad losses against them. The media crowned the Pats after a win in Orchard Park. They went back in the playoffs and Allen had 7 TDs on 7 drives. The only reason it wasn't 8 out of 8 was because the Bills took a knee to end the game.

[@craigwilliams7224]

Dude the Bills have been beating up on weak teams

[@bullzeyez3236]

So have the Chiefs, all teams have losing records right now. the Chiefs barely win by a score while the Bills are blowing out the opponents.

[@peterwilson4865]

Lol KC's opponents have 2 combined wins and they needed help to win all 3 of them. Buffalo games have been done by halftime.

[@Mr.Martin1996]

​@@bullzeyez3236 the Chiefs are still finding ways to win games regardless how terrible they're playing lol Yet if Buffalo plays against a weak team and doesn't look good, even with a good record, you'll find some excuse for why they would play bad.

[@bullzeyez3236]

@@Mr.Martin1996 Its ok to admit your are afraid. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[@Mr.Martin1996]

@@bullzeyez3236 lmao afraid of what? Just because they're not playing good doesn't mean they're gonna be like this forever lol Even if it's just three weeks, everyone knows the Chiefs'll get back into shape by the time the playoffs come around, I ain't got nothing to worry about. So keep trying.

[@dragonore2009]

Y'know, this is the third week 4 power rankings done by professionals that have three NFC North teams in the top 10. Doesn't that mean, the NFC North is the best division in the NFL?

[@CompleteProducer84]

Steelers fan but at the very least, the Vikings should be ahead of us. I personally would put the Jets ahead too since Rodgers has had 2 excellent games in a row which is scary. I think 6 or 7 sounds more realistic for the Steelers

[@peterwilson4865]

Jets have beaten 2 garbage teams and gotten dog walked by the only decent team they played. They're a fringe wild card contender at best

[@RaymondWard-c1y]

The Vikings look flawless, against a Super Bowl participant and a very good Texans team and well the Giants. You’re thinking about the past and even if they lose a close one to Green Bay yeah vault the Packers but put the Vikings right there too.

[@dathao9692]

They gotta drug test these guys everyday

[@Paul-e3n]

The Chiefs have played some very strong teams and i believe the Chiefs are above the Bills but we will see in a few weeks who will rise up

[@chriserickson7559]

Sam Darnold is America’s Quarterback !!

[@JasonBrendan-td4qb]

Seahawks are better than the entire nfc south and the commanders. The fact that they jumped up 5 spots and are 16th is hilarious, but not surprising.

[@connorwalker9073]

The Eagles, Bucs, and Texans in top 10 makes me question which season you are watching.

[@laudanum669]

The Chiefs are only 3-0 because of the Ref's help.

[@joseaguilera2145]

Vikings not being Top 3 is disrespect

[@mikeday8470]

Remind who the Bills have played? Talk to me after the Ravens game.

[@fahada1921]

Cancel Chris’ podcast and let us have more Florio and Simms please.

[@milesnugent5916]

Nah Florio is 4D chessing it and trying to give the vikings billboard material lol

[@grizlee1719]

Chiefs should be 1. And I like the Bills, but they have not played the same competition as the Chiefs. The Vikes should be above both the Steelers and Pack based on wins against competition.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

............ both Buffalo and kc have beaten teams with a collective 2-7 record....

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

KC is barley bearing the bad teams they've played. Buffalo is dominating the ones they've played.

[@grizlee1719]

Granted, neither have played great competition. But I'll put up Cincinnati against anyone the Bills have played. Again, I like the Bills. Just can't put them ahead of the Bills - yet.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

@@grizlee1719 yeah no. Cincinnati is a far worse team this year than Arizona and Miami WITH Tua. Buffalos wins have been far more impressive, and they have been more reliable on both sides of the ball.

[@grizlee1719]

@@JohnDoe-kh6mtCincinnati is not far worse than the Cards. Possibly a toss up. Miami without Tua. And this edition of the Fins even with Tua are not dangerous. No D. And the Jags are just bad. Chiefs have played the Ravens, Connecticut and Atlanta. Buffalo has played the Fins, Jags and Cards. If the Bills dominate the Ravens or beat them convincingly - I'll concede.

[@answeris4217]

I found that the Chiefs looked bad last couple of weeks. The Refs new Cheufs gear looked great though. Wonder if Netflix will do a doc in a few years about fixing games like Pro Wresling...you know for the betting "partners"

[@chriserickson7559]

WTF is Mike smoking? Seahawks way down at 16 and Packers up at 6 ?? 😂😂

[@sirtheodorefranciswindsor]

We played three back up qbs stop crying until we get a quality win.

[@chriserickson7559]

@@sirtheodorefranciswindsor I’m a Vikings fan. IMHO, the Seahawks have done more than the Packers.

[@AlijahGray-w4d]

Why are the buccaneers in the top 10💀💀💀💀💀

[@allenroy1638]

Lions above the Vikes? Nice joke Florio lol

[@richardoconnell3214]

Power rankings mean nothing! The Bills need to get past the Chiefs in the playoffs to show me anything. My Vikings are doing well...for now...despite the "experts."

[@samueldrazkowski2908]

Until they lose the defending Super Bowl champs should always be 1, Vikings way more complete team and beat 9ers and Texans

[@michaelangelos5117]

Generous spot to the Raiders. Should be lower. Like 50th.

[@eddiecastro5088]

seahawks 16 wtf

[@charlesezell7043]

Florio represents the cry baby Viking fan better than anyone.

[@RayWagner-v3b]

Cremin Prairie

[@DanielJackson-y6i]

Bo Ports

[@Chiefs555]

Buffalo fans are already printing their September Super Bowl Banners. 😂😂😂 povery fanbase

[@raymond5482]

Cheese heads not better then vikings they haven't even played anybody

[@scottdickson1473]

Here we go again with the Bills. Reigning September champs.

[@bullzeyez3236]

Here we go with the Chiefs, cant hit 30 points a game or win by more than 1 score. Barely scratching out wins.

[@scottdickson1473]

@@bullzeyez3236 lol and winning actual championships. Unlike the bills.

[@bullzeyez3236]

@@scottdickson1473 lol..old comments never die, they just get reused. try again.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

Both teams have played bottom half teams..... kc is barely winning those games, and Buffalo is sitting it's starter by the end of the 3rd quarter in 2 games and absolutely destroying their inferior opponents. Allen is playing FAR better football than mahokes again this year.

[@BrianMccallumstudioart]

Wow. Bills are September champs again. They take the throne along with the Chargers who have won the AFC west 9 of the last 8 Junes.

[@gregajohn6732]

Great rankings .

[@buddysteele7624]

Oh my God this new guy is so boring and talks for wayyyy too long. How does he manage to take so long to say the simplest thing? Every time he talks my internal voice is yelling “spit it out. Wrap it up Jesus” very similar to McCourty. Just boring and then to make it worse they talk wayyyy too much and beat around the bush all the freaking time

[@freeindeed5393]

Ultimate joke rankings! Seattle at 16?!?! You actually get paid for this nonsense! lol!

[@charlesautrey9176]

Yea everyone knows the bills are the September champions we will see in the playoffs who is who

[@sportstalkwithadrink2023]

Bills will choke as always

[@arrowheadnation8425]

Bills beat Dolphins (they ALWAYS beat MIA), then struggling JAGS? So that's what makes then #1? BOGUS!

[@STEALTTH7]

+64 point differential with taking their foot off the gas in 2/3 games? Yeah, that's pretty substantial.

[@JamesK-z1y]

Lets see where the Bills are after the next 3 games. I'm guessing the Chiefs are going to reclaim the #1 spot

[@STEALTTH7]

I mean...maybe? But it's not like the Ravens have been doing well, the Texans just got blown out and the Jets are the Jets, so who knows. Bills have put up massive points and have a plus 64 point differential in 3 games and they took their foot off the gas in the last 2 games...

[@jabencarter88]

Both are 3-0 but The Chiefs have beaten way better teams than the Bills.

[@STEALTTH7]

Chiefs haven't looked good. +13 point Differential. Bills have looked amazing. +64 point differential with taking a half of the game off against the Jags and taking their foot off the gas in Miami. Chiefs are lucky to be #2 honestly.

[@peterwilson4865]

Way better teams based on what? It's not W/L record.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

2-7 both Buffalo and kc have beaten 3 teams each and those teams both have collective win/loss of 2-7.

[@AKA2PM]

@@JohnDoe-kh6mt It is only 3 games. Wait until week 10 and compare The Jags/Dolphins/Cardinals record to the Ravens/Bengals,/Falcons. If the winning percentage is higher for the teams Buffalo beat weeks 1-3 then they are winning the Super Bowl, no doubt.

[@nicklanger9600]

Florio sucks!

[@arrowheadnation8425]

Chiefs beat RAVENS and BENGALS! Both heavyweights. Chiefs get NO credit for that? Your "professional opinion" is pathetic 👎🏽

[@shanechristopherson7582]

Same with vikings san Fran and Houston

[@STEALTTH7]

Learn to be an objective fan. Your team won the last 2 superbowls, don't be so insecure. You're really going to sit there and pretend like they have played well the last 3 games and should be a number 1 ranked team after 3 weeks? It's a power ranking. Who is hot NOW. It's not KC.

[@fochjr4223]

Refs cannot throw penalties for opinions bro. Your team is in 2nd. Relax

[@peterwilson4865]

Heavy weights at 1-5 combined. 😂

[@jaredhill4425]

Steelers should be #1

[@marks5759]

Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh

[@answeris4217]

Lol...funniest thing I read ever

[@answeris4217]

Lol...funniest thing I read ever

[@jaredhill4425]

@@answeris4217 offenses cant move the ball against this defense

[@slimvickins5059]

@@jaredhill4425Steelers offense averages only 17 ppg and 172 pass ypg