NFL owners discuss QB salary cap; 18-game season (Full PFT PM) | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

In this edition of PFT PM, Mike Florio discusses Travis Kelce's reaction to the Super Bowl ring typo before diving into a potential QB salary cap. Florio wonders who could be the first NFL QB to make $60 million per year before giving an update on the impending 18-game season. To close, Florio opens the mailbag to answer fan questions. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #nfl
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[@BruceLeeRoy-m8f]

How bout put a cap on tickets and stadium food n beverages?

[@madnessontheisland]

The typo on the SB ring is just one more dig at Tyreek for taking the bag over more rings with KC. I love it.

[@UnnameableGreviance]

I bought Playmakers for my father when it came out. He had been waiting for the release of it. It was the last book he reqd before he passed away and enjoyed it greatly. I read it after I inherited it. It is a great book. Thank you.

[@jflopezfernandez]

Sorry for your loss

[@joe2thesequel]

So glad you are ok. Good news for anyone. You make the NFL better so stay healthy

[@Spdrcerjt-f4m]

You're the best Florio! I am glad that you will be sticking around for a long time.

[@jnieting]

You should do more court/law things in the office season. Your take is refreshing

[@patriciablyler6484]

Getting the word that you're not dying is always a plus!

[@turosianarcher8771]

Significantly better than the alternative, that's for sure.

[@slyhuot]

Nobody cares

[@spyder1364]

​@@slyhuotobviously you do, since you took time to reply

[@goldenbear8250]

Imagine if someone had actually left a message to someone that they were!

[@coreythompson4556]

Amen 🙏🏽

[@quiddity131]

Brady’s teammates got more because Brady got less. That’s the way the salary cap works! Florio blatantly lying about this so often is ridiculous!

[@scottrowlandrowland1098]

Exactly, it's not a complicated formula. Mahomes and brady took less and have 7 out of the last 10 superbowls because they were able to build better teams around them.

[@angelsanchez-zb2rj]

I think florio missed the fact that because mahomes took a team friendly deal they were able to keep more pieces to keep winning like look at caleb sure we don't know what he will be yet but he's already setting himself up for not needing a big contract.the big company's pay a shitload for sponsorship deals and you only have those types of deals if your winning

[@johnnyrohrer8870]

QB cap is needed. Cannot be paying QB's 55MIL when they cant win a playoff game, or beat Mahomes .

[@bmcdaniel93]

Great news from the Doc Florio!!

[@baldmafia]

Florio: you have a flawed NPV calculation on winning. Brady sacrificed salary in short term for long term legacy and now has the real equity you miss: he has brand equity as the GOAT. He can get paid tens of millions just for being himself. Shaq appeal

[@bradleymaravalli2851]

I have PVCs too. 1 out of 10 Americans have PVC. A lot of times it is unnoticeable. That "heartburn" or "heart attack" feeling is typically due to caffeine. Making your heart work overtime. My doctors recommended cardio exercise in order to strengthen the heart. The fact that you are constantly doing cardio is likely why you are doing so great AND why you never really experienced PVCs until now. Just my two cents. Don't sue me. :-)

[@alexgonzaleztx]

Mike, hear me out. You and Simms on a podcast, he smokes his weed, you drink or smoke a cigar and just talk ball. F-bombs encouraged! "Blunts and Blitzes" w/ Simms & Florio. Make it happen!

[@lukeluna3732]

Off brand, won't happen.

[@CapeCodPhilip]

You might be on to something: PFT on NBC is regimented and corporate - a chill conversation from the barn would be a nice change...

[@lukeluna3732]

@@CapeCodPhilip a conversation from the barn, has better ring to it for a NBC product from 2 NBC employees, then blunts and blitzes lol

[@Tony525_]

Contracts should be based on performance...

[@timothythompson2369]

Weird take. Most teams use up their entire cap. Florio acts like the owners pocket the cash. They actually share the revenue and dole out per the CBA.

[@CH-qt4hr]

very few teams use up their whole cap

[@josephmesser5180]

I spent 15 years in Southern West Virginia. A lot of Vikings fans in that part of the state. Still a lot of love for Randy Moss

[@dylanehle6816]

Hey, Mike - just really glad to hear you got good test results. I know a tiny bit about how it's tough to get behind the mic and entertain when you have a lot weighing on you. Thanks for being real and sharing!

[@HaydenKile]

“Funny How” I’m dead Mike lmao🤣🤣🤣

[@jonosay854]

Move ALL THE BYE WEEKS to weeks 8-10, or 9-10. Makes ZERO sense for 2 teams to have a BYE Week 6, and 2 have a BYE Week 12

[@helmetculture]

LOL

[@robertschoelerman7496]

18games u spread the 2 bye weeks out

[@idiocide6609]

how do you maintain any competitive bidding on QBs if there is a salary cap on the position. It will shortly just become every QB making whatever the cap is.

[@EdByrns]

I feel NFL should have pay based on play time as starter or backup cause I feel it ain't fair if a backups has to do a starters job for way less n if they do they should get that starters pay not backup pay every game should pay half the salary n the other half is ur base pay for all the other stuff it would work just a lil complicated at first then all players get paid the same at ur position n rank

[@alphonsis6183]

The Bills will take care of Josh, maybe before this season. I'm confident that Josh will be reasonable with help making the cap dynamics as flexible as possible.

[@mykofreder1682]

As far as exercise goes in your 60s or 70s listen to your body when you exercise. At 35 I could run a 5-minute mile, in my 60s maybe a single 8-minute or higher, I would never push myself to the ragged edge of that midsummer race doing a 5-minute mile in a 5k. You are diminished at those ages if you have a measuring stick to compare and the ragged edge is probably not wise.

[@GoKU-xx2vg]

Wow. I couldn't do a 5min mile in my 20s lol.

[@lukeluna3732]

Ive been arguing caps on positions for years now. Then the stars become capped out then as the cap raises other members of the team start getting the benefits from new money.

[@lukeluna3732]

Then caps on position can raise together over time.

[@mymodely7755]

I would not give up two first round draft picks for Lamar. I don’t even think he’s a two-time MVP.

[@anthonygambitta6220]

They should have a QB salary cap, this is spiraling out of control.

[@OhioVworld]

18 games, fine. Expand rosters to 60, and make mandatory snap counts across rosters, etc, so players are playing less snaps, done. Also, with 18 games, it makes sense to have 2 bye weeks.

[@chrisculhane3777]

Qb's salaries are getting ridiculous this next man up breaks the bank is ridiculous. Teams are held hostage

[@johnwager6704]

The ring will be highly valued for collectors down the road.

[@ScottVansel-qg8ik]

Yes..Just like error sports cards are...some are very valuable!

[@Mediocre_Bass_Player]

There is a great episode of Modern Family where Phil gets a phone message from his doctor and this is his reaction...it's comedy gold

[@chrispage8716]

They need to restructure quarterback contracts by skills you can't have the 15th best quarterback make the most just because he was the last quarterback signed it's absurd.. now every other quarterback that is just as good or worse is it going to get paid more outrageous

[@kents1911]

Everyone is dying he just isn't dying faster than normal 😂

[@zachmcquillan1922]

Quality Bad Santa reference (RIP Bernie Mac)

[@brianmurray7980]

Id love to see a 24 week season with 3 bye weeks for a toral of 21 regular season games. The 3 bye weeks is the only way to sell it to the union, and it should be able to guarantee each team gets a bye once every 7 weeks.

[@CapeCodPhilip]

Mike is the Mr. Rogers of Sports: speaks intimately as if he's talking to one person (you), not 20,000...

[@timbryant2969]

I've never really understood how labor getting together and saying, "no one will work for you for less than this amount" ISN'T collusion, but management getting together and saying, "we'll only pay this much" IS collusion. If these guys (the players) were having to get 2nd jobs so their families could eat, I could understand all the shade you're throwing at the owners, but this is quite obviously not the case. We've arrived at a point where ONE personnel decision can sink a franchise, and if some action isn't taken the league will be in real trouble. I'm not saying a QB cap is that answer, but an answer needs to be found and the owners have every right to discuss it.

[@ShonTV15]

The difference is we assume that 8 year old is gonna grow up to work a regular job where that mindset wouldn’t be healthy. If you’re getting paid millions to play a game then yeah winning at all costs is the objective, even if that means taking a few less million to do so.

[@QuarterbackTCG]

Qbs don't have a right to feel any type of way with this, their slice of the pie has nearly doubled since 2007. Top rbs career earnings are closer to one year of these qb salaries.

[@mattchew6426]

Didn't KC pay Mahomes half a billion dollars for a 10 year contract? Since then, $50 million per year for a QB has become the standard offer for the position...

[@NathanRhwmf]

why? if he’s the best why are they payed more

[@aaronclay4665]

Yes and it was a dumb contract, it wad heavily home town for cheifs, but he is also guaranteed all his money( it rolls every 2 years, first 2 years guaranteed then next year , year 2 and 3 guaranteed then next 3 and 4 ect ect) It's why when ppl gay mad at deshaun watson guaranteed money I laughed, the only reason mahilmes is like that is because his owner DOES NOT have 500 million in cash to give the. Nflpa( guaranteed money is payed to the nflpa UP FRONT and kept in escrow till that year they then give it to the player at the start of the new league year) Again, a lot of ppl know nothing on these subjects but act like they know what's good and what's bad.

[@pierrekid]

Mike why are the people that pay the players and the owners never discussed?? US! And we have no vote or say in anything. Pay them means higher ticket prices etc. so annoying

[@ravenken]

You know Mike, I NEVER hear you justify why all the money should go to the QB and screw the rest of the players. I know you know there is a salary cap. I also know you know the law of subtraction. So, please spend some time justifying why everyone else should get less because the teams have to overpay the QBs. I would really love to hear your explanation. Again, all the other players with many years of sacrifice and effort to be where they are, are going to be limited all b/c someone is the 'face' of a franchise. That is wrong in my book and I would like to hear why I'm wrong.

[@ace448]

If I were the players, if you expand the season you es t a guarantee of some money if your career ends early due to injury. Something like an annuity of 50% of the contract over a certain time. That’s the only thing I would take

[@NintendoSphere]

Isn't tom essentially getting this info confirmed out there a good thing though? We know what's coming down the line and what the badge wants. This is good to know.

[@bryantreese6060]

Thats awesome for you so glad results are good news stay healthy stay safe your life is always more important then 🏈

[@grizzlybear9419]

No player is worth 60 million a year. No player should make more than 10 million a year period. This is totally ridiculous. There playing a game. If they don't like it don't play.

[@pierrekid]

Mike a Vikings fan since 1969. I think we were going to draft Pennix. Too much talking about everyone else. Just a hunch. I was bummed Atlanta got him. Please discuss this.

[@AEFisch]

18 games, up 2. Don't you need a larger roster? Just injury math, more games, more opportunities to get injured and unable to play. No one can change that on either side.

[@rushman2k3]

4:43 as a chiefs fan I literally dont care at all about it and not even remotely embarrassed, so I can totally get Kelce not caring either

[@travisstoneking4049]

Thank you Cleveland for making ownership want a cap. They should cap screwing fans on tickets. Then again what do I know. 😂

[@meepk633]

I would take some measure of petty solace if I were in the Miami organization. It's not a particularly warm comfort, but it'll do.

[@chrispage8716]

They will be the most valuable super bowl rings

[@Kim-cv2qv]

The players tried to have All Hats game during an strike year in the mid 80s and the league went to Court and squashed it

[@JohnSmith-ls3um]

My answer to Belichick if I was negotiating with him and he asked if I thought I was better than Brady: no, I don’t-but then again, I don’t have a super model wife who makes double what I make.

[@Dean_H.]

Florio is the Goat 🐐

[@FelixvonSnidonkloffer-vg8fm]

Mike, when asked about which team(s) are poised to this season to get hot, the teams you mentioned are all NFC teams until the end when you haphazardly mentioned the Chiefs. What gives?

[@j.anthonybattaglini6650]

I'm part of Bills mafia and I really don't mind you calling out my organization. You called out my coach and GM back when that Matt Ariza thing happened. That punk may have not done what was alleged but he didn't just have HS girls at a party and is completely innocent. A decent man would've kicked those girls out of the party and made sure no one messed with them, and the response by my organization made me sick. McDermott always coaches to not lose, when you need to coach to win. He has no balls on the field and when it came to doing what's right, he showed he has no balls. Keep calling it like you see it, your the only one that seems to do that

[@2jjordan124]

As much as I hope Anthony Richardson is the answer in Indy…I still say the Colts should’ve tried to go after Lamar

[@lyndelf]

If they want to enjoy the benefits of the "equity" then they should be willing to take on part of the debt!! Everyone is making too much money but only a few are holding the responsibility of keeping it all going!

[@spyder1364]

I was diagnosed with chrons disease, back in the mid 80s. I know what you're goin though. Anyday above the dirt, is a good dau

[@dyne313]

The infrastructure can be provided WITHOUT THE OWNERS. The players need to create their own "player owned" league. They need to just set it up, not as leverage, BUT AS AN ACTUAL LEAGUE. The owners have no power beyond their money. The players have more than enough money and support from the public.

[@OlBoo]

The problem with your story is that they have to pay a minimum percentage out to the players from the salary cap. So this is all just a bunch of malarkey, because if they don’t pay the quarterbacks, they have to pay someone else. Maybe they have more confidence paying the other positions, but the NFL and NBA have almost 50% or more of the Divine gross revenue. Going to be paid to the players. So cut it out Mike.

[@rogerbeck5664]

Whatever happened to living up to the old-fashioned idea of living up to the contract you signed? Allen has won nothing, so far, on the field.

[@alexvankeulen7171]

When the kid's 8 years old and is always winning, you got yourself a goddamn prodigy, idk what you're on about florio

[@carrite]

Josh Allen "underpaid" at $45M year? You're nuts. No wonder the NFL needs a QB salary cap, with you talking heads ginning up the fan idiots...

[@craigpridemore7566]

No matter what they agree to on the QB salary cap, there WILL be a Haslem out there who's going to say, 'I own my company! Don't tell ME what to do!' (Snicker) Of course, people could look at how that turned out and shy away...

[@geraldjeffcoat392]

My issue is the owners got the rookie contract. Knowing that they got a certain amount of years to pay everyone else before you have to pay up. Now for QBs they always have to one up the previous QB. Why? Don't cry now, I remember what they use to pay rookie QBs

[@andrew_7539]

McAfee during the day, Florio at nite 😈😈😈

[@cheezits3632]

Come on mike, everything in moderation don't have to exercise everyday 😅

[@OldGuard53]

6 min later actual football

[@ketolorabaltimore1843]

Yes congratulations you’re doing well

[@justinrakestraw4142]

Notice Florio never brought up Mahomes??? He should be paid 70-80 million a year but takes a pay cut!

[@reconn3cted276]

Diet is far more importimportant than exercise. Don't worry about cholesterol most people who die of heart disease have normal cholesterol

[@sirripsalot420]

That Lamar situation is actually insane when you think about it. Blatant collusion.

[@stevepickering9697]

Wheeling feeling

[@johnbienaszii7729]

Get a better camera, move your mic, Mike.

[@craigburgess7105]

a salary cap on QB's would imply it being relative (as a %) of the salary cap / which links to previous discussions about how these contracts are negotiated ( am not thinking about unions for player positions at this point ) -IF they come to some sort of cabal type agreement there's three things that spring immediately to mind 1 the question amongst the cabal will always be 'is there one of us that will break (the illegal - it probably is) agreement ? 2 the 'formula' would get worked out, by leaks or chronological evidence etc, and THUS most teams surely would end up having to pay, even less optimal players, to the limit of the 'secret illegal' cap 3 teams with an elite/stud QB would surely try and find ways round the edge for their player

[@craigburgess7105]

there would be a lot more consequences but would have to think deeper about what they may be and/ or see how that pans out

[@JohnWilliams-wz9vk]

Cap all..salaries .go to..14..games .

[@IronCladBushido]

love you Florio , but your vikings fandom is showing when you imply wanting to win is childish

[@lukeluna3732]

Florio why do you always come off like a darren having karen on when it comes to this stuff. CAPS ON POSITIONS is a great idea. Qb's can be paid the most but they dont need to take it all, wr 35$ cap d line 35 qb 60 o-line 35, cb 30$ rb 20 then let the money move to the team as a whole B & C list players

[@jesselawson224]

They are going to ruin football if they just keep adding games.

[@archibaldmcglasson7111]

2:05 dik broke

[@walkerdefaul8487]

Seriously who cares about the inside of the ring. Just mike hating on the chiefs again

[@moose2577]

He's really trying to make it a big story. 🤡🤦🏻‍♂️

[@sirripsalot420]

Seek help ​@@moose2577

[@sirripsalot420]

😢 you do

[@anthonyslazas6413]

If Dak gets to ture FA some team will give him 60 million a year! Kirk got 100 million guaranteed from the lame Falcons!

[@j2398]

I doubt he cared whatsoever. It's literally nothing. A 7 instead of 6. On the underside. And all it represents is the seed the team was. Who cares lol

[@hiramabiff2790]

🛑🛑🛑🛑 …….We the people are under paid 💰💰💰💰, they make to much money 💵

[@cag19549]

There's no such thing as smoking in moderation. Smoking is smoking no matter what it is. When smoke enters the lungs, it damages them. Just admit that you like to smoke cigars, and it's your choice, which is fine.

[@clos24]

Do you know what moderation means lol. He never said smoking doesn't damage your lungs.

[@jayfisher7726]

So winning shouldn't be the objective according to Mike. Just get money. And we they max out their money and don't win he will criticize them. 😅

[@jackgreen1261]

Okay okay we don't care if you're dying get on with the NFL news

[@planeben]

Still dying, just more slowly.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

No they could fix it ! The problem is at what cost and who paying! I agree with Mike on this subject!

[@cag19549]

It's a minor issue! For God's sakes. Get a grip.

[@ryn8068]

Terrible conspiracy video. Great interesting subject poor content.

[@SuspiciousMinds65]

Lamar Jackson is a glorified running back at best....look at his playoff record yall need to get over him

[@truthjester]

the typo rings will be worth more in the future because of the mistake.....people value oddity...

[@truehearz]

The problem is if you pay a qb alot then you don't have money for the rest of your good players. Detroit is going to be in trouble in a few years they got a lot of young great players. All the great picks that holmes got will be up for contracts we can't pay them all so we have to work some type of magic to keep them all.

[@iceberg54321]

Watson is already over 60 million for the next three years.

[@iceberg54321]

So... it has already happened.

[@peterburkhalter6344]

The 32 separate businesses come together under the CBA and they also revenue share. Does this give them a special privileges when it comes to colluding

[@Tygawoodz6]

He’s not dying guys

[@135SlimeyKeno]

Should have been made a qb salary cap. They'll end up making 100 million a year at some point

[@ChrisH421]

Why there is already a salary cap for players why single out one position?

[@Mr_Mcfeely]

​@@ChrisH421 if they can single out and separate the position under it's own salary cap, it 'COULD POTENTIALLY' open up larger base contracts for other positions depending on what they do with the current cap after removing the QB. Everyone can win here. League could cap QBs and get their 18 game season and players could get larger deals across the board and the reworked off-season/extra by week. Just takes some open minds sitting at the table.

[@JRobGCTeamEnergy]

Really glad to hear that you got some good news Florio. The UPMC crew really is resilient, and they do some fantastic work down there. I’m about an hour outside of Pittsburgh, so we’re wishing you a fast and speedy recovery! We need your voice within the community. Your experience and wisdom takes quite a long time to build and it’s been a pleasure to listen to your commentary over the years. It really would be a shame to lose you man.. Must’ve been all those times that Simms was bustin your balls, it finally got to ya! 😜🤣. You know I’m just joshin around. You’re the man Florio, you got a whole community of people that care and support you man. Prayers headed your way that everything continues to progress positively. 🙏🏻🎉💯

[@robertschoelerman7496]

Lamar was over rated every jne new that hevis a aystem qb any team interestwd in lamar would gave to change there team around the fact nobody offerd lamar anything and even unquir about gim twlls u wverycrhinfvu need to know his mvos are fake no one cares about them lamar chokes in big moments playoffs rhere are a lot if wbs i would pay before lamar

[@jenniferaceste8823]

Can you repeat that in English???