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[@tayche1]

Josh Reynolds’s dropped 2 huge passes that either one would have won the game. Jamyr Gibbs ran to the wrong hole an fumbled on damn near the goal line. Gardner Johnson with that terrible unsportsmanlike. there was alot of reasons we lost, none of which were goff

[@justicestyles]

You sound like a crazy fan. … he had a 24-7 lead and folded like wet paper … it’s on Goff

[@DetroitLions23]

You’re delusional if you think that game was on Goff. Rewatch it. Didn’t turn the ball over once. His teammates let him down.

[@jasondeslatte7611]

@@DetroitLions23 ff he could use his legs even just a little,the niners whole defensive plan wouldve crumbled and theyd have won but he couldnt do it,its not who he is and teams know this.Heck Rams almost beat them

[@DetroitLions23]

@@jasondeslatte7611 what are you saying lol. Almost beat us? Almost means nothing. Goff didnt turn the ball over once in the posteason this year. Won 2 playoff games and should have been in the superbowl if vildor, gibbs and reynolds did their jobs in that game. Watch the tape.

[@jasondeslatte7611]

@@DetroitLions23 dude drops happen to everyone,use the legs and extend plays

[@richardastley1168]

Florio was dreading this day. Having to talk for 15 minutes about the Lions.

[@theronin9984]

🤣🤣🤣💯👍🏾👍🏾

[@dankill9131]

For real! I knew there was a reason I never liked this guy. This little bit of "journalism" just proved me right.

[@PaulHilburger]

SUFFER FLORIO

[@MrInTheBlack]

That was a good one!

[@jacksonlandry1017]

Funniest part is that he doesn’t even acknowledge it. He lays out his arguments and acts like it’s any other day but it’s so blatantly obvious to everyone else

[@SiberianSneaks]

Goff over the past 2 years is top 4 in yards, TDs, TD:INT ratio, and first down rate. He earned this with the playoff run last year. But hey let’s talk about that 2019 Super Bowl where Tom Brady was mostly ass too lol.

[@johnthrasher8146]

Just look at the list of QBs getting 50 million dollars, Burrow, Herbert, Hurts and Jackson. Goff has accomplished for his teams as much or more in his career than any of the other quarterbacks making those big bucks. Also, the throw to Reynolds was on the money and hit him in the hands. That's sports.

[@Sky_Blaze]

Bingo and theGMs are all dumb paying these players this much anyway. Smh

[@joshlewis575]

He's the 2nd best QB of the 50 million club and he's being paid as such. People freaking out about this are really gonna flip when Tua gets 55. Least Goff is top 5ish league wide. Tua is barely middle of the pack

[@Rockerboys1]

Around 12 minutes is so stupid Jared has been in Allen park for involuntary workouts for the past 2 weeks 🙄

[@Bainer744]

Goff has quietly been a top 5 QB for the past 2 years, if it wasn’t for McVay throwing him to the curb, he would be in the discussion with some of the top QBs in football

[@stackonez7182]

I wouldn’t put him above Pat, Josh, Lamar, Joe or Matt. Any where under those 5 tho.

[@Bainer744]

@@stackonez7182Matt as in Stafford? As a Lions fan I have a soft spot for Stafford, but since the Rams won the superbowl Jared has simply been a better QB by every metric

[@shadybrain3424]

@@stackonez7182 josh allen has alot of good, but man he also has ALOT of bad, dude will straight up give games away sometimes, he has not been better than goff the past 2 years.

[@stackonez7182]

@@shadybrain3424 that’s a horrible take. Josh Allen is the 2nd best QB in football. 30 other GMs will tell you the same. No one in their right mind is taking Goff over Josh Allen. Get real bud.

[@Bindy5000-qu3px]

Delusional. He’s a bottom 15.

[@craigpridemore7566]

You're talking about a game that was FIVE YEARS AGO. What about the last 2? 'Goff being good doesn't fit the narrative, so we'll just stick to the narrative'.

[@coreypatterson1007]

Last two just shows Goff losing in important games just like he did with the rams!

[@Bainer744]

Sean McVay ruined Jared’s image throughout the league and with fans, he’s been top 5 the last 2 years

[@Brent6437]

@@Bainer744yes Sir. You’re 100% right

[@hotsauce879]

@@coreypatterson1007lol. Ok please explain. I will wait

[@softjones3128]

@@coreypatterson1007 you eat a lot of paint as a kid?

[@thenerdyarab7622]

Lions will play 14 games indoors this year.

[@bears653]

Better hope the packers dont win the division and he gotta play at Lambeau during playoffs

[@youtubecommenter1533]

So u saying they suck in the elements, what a bad way to build a team

[@carterfarris39]

@@bears653already showed he’ll go in there and win.

[@Bainer744]

That’s how many games they will win too

[@theshinybisharp962]

​@@bears653they've smoked them the last two times at lambo

[@user-dr7md1fm3x]

In response to Florio's "tag" statement. Detroit is building a culture. They determined that Goff is one of the core pieces. Tagging individuals must impact their play prior to the contract ending (tough negotiations) and after with the "tag" decision (disrespect?). Why would Detroit desire to upset their locker room? They have worked so hard to create a new culture. Additionally, after two years Goff's contract will be under market value if he continues his performance of the past couple of years.

[@ReoBandss]

Tagging your QB is never a good idea, simply put.

[@righteousisthelord180]

Right on man. You did your homework. The pundits did not.

[@RickDesotell]

Give it rest already. Guy has been a terrific player for the lions.

[@July.4.1776]

The team wins a Super Bowl not just the quarterback. TEAM.

[@user-bk6uu5hu6o]

Yeah but the QB decides if you do or don’t

[@Sam16Walker]

Don’t worry bro they said the same about Eli Manning

[@user-bk6uu5hu6o]

@@Sam16Walker way different type of league now

[@robbogart6266]

Jared Goff isn't the QB he was back on LA. He has confidence now

[@jasondeslatte7611]

he sure showed that in the 2nd half against SF

[@nathanhoughton8951]

@@jasondeslatte7611 What showed he had a lack of confidence in the 2nd half?

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@jasondeslatte7611he didn’t do anything wrong that game. You don’t watch any of the games confirmed 💀

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@jasondeslatte7611he didn’t do anything wrong that game. You don’t watch any of the games confirmed 💀

[@jaalsburg]

Funny thing is we paid Stafford the highest QB salary as a Lion that quickly became not the highest. This time we didn't top out, but definetly reset the market with Love, Dak, Tua, and others eye balling this contract. If you have a franchise guy, pay him.

[@001Khy]

“We”😂😂😂😂

[@jaalsburg]

@@001Khy Until billionaires pay for their own stadiums I think it can be a fair statement.

[@joshlewis575]

The lions reset the market for a bunch of their biggest competition in the NFC. Imagine what the cowboys are gonna have to pay dak and cee dee. Or the vikings with Jefferson and darrisaw. One of the best parts of their off-season, getting out in front of the market

[@jaalsburg]

@@joshlewis575 I figure Dak has the most potential to really blow up in the teams face. Jerry is weird on who he likes to pay.

[@Nogo-Bronco]

Herbert at 52 mil and Hurts is at 51. Goff got what he is worth based on the market. Cousins got a little less because of his age and he is coming off an injury. Dak should get 50 mil just as a starting point. Lawrence is coming along with Tua. Should be interesting

[@RP-bx5un]

Up 24 to 3 against 49ers does he play defense?

[@smoke_u_sum]

Lions need to send Simms autographed Goff Jersey. He lowkey loves Goff, but don't tell anyone i told you😂😂😂

[@tylorclark4219]

He loves him florio hates him lol

[@johnchedsey1306]

The reality is who would be better than Goff in Detroit? No one. It seems he is finally hitting his prime years as a QB and Detroit fans are in for a fun time for awhile. Winning a super bowl is incredibly hard, so if he's helping them push for it every year, that's all you can ask for.

[@Baalzz302]

I only hope Goff doesn't lose arm strength.

[@robertkurtz6691]

He has more playoff wins than every qb on that top 10 board besides mahommes, and tied for the most superbowl appearances with everyone not named mahommes. Clowns🤣🤣🤣

[@Sky_Blaze]

Goff had alot of hate for no reason. Just like Baker Mayfield. Two competitive guys that really care about giving it their all. Yet people don't believe in them. Goff been to a superbowl before and has taken the the Lions into the nfc championship. The lions are only getting better. So yes, I believe can get the a superbowl. I was rooting for them last year and im a die hard Redskins fan (I dont use the C word)

[@CompetitionSportsNetwork]

Goff only went to a Super Bowl because the Rams had a killer defense. Their offense was garbage which is why they lost.

[@sonhuynh8222]

U know what they say ….. those who CAN’T, teach/talk. example: Chris Simms 😂

[@mcsibs]

Does Stafford or Rodgers run the current Lions offense better than Goff? You want off script gun slingers bc they make pretty plays, but the lions offense is for a Drew Brees or Tom Brady. Timing, checkdowns, smart mistake free football in a clean pocket. I'm fine with it

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

What are you talking about the “kicker was good the whole year”? They released Patterson with 4-5 weeks left, after which Badgley took over. In the 4 regular season games he played in, sure, he was 4/4 on field goals. But he was 13/15 on extra points. That’s not good at all.

[@jamescain7287]

Dawn of the Detroit Dynasty!! We winning the next 3 SBs!! In Goff We Trust!!! 🦁 🦁 🦁 🏆 🏆 🏆 💍 💍 💍

[@July.4.1776]

There is a reason you two are not a GM somewhere.

[@SlackerHead83]

😂. First time I ever heard you say something positive about Jared Goff and the lions. Also first time I ever left you a like

[@alschbachb]

Goff is not the same QB he was when he played in the Super Bowl. Sean Mcvay didn’t let Goff grow as a QB. Mcvay controlled everything at the line. Now Goff makes checks, he’s amazing at reading where the Blitz is. Stop comparing this Goff to the Goff of 4 years ago.

[@stephensdygert7600]

Goff had nothing to do with the Lions choking against against SF. Five dropped passes by Lions receivers. Two by Josh Reynolds. Thats why Reynolds is in Denver now. Florio hates the Lions. Always cuts the Lions down. Lions would of whipped the Chiefs. A healthy James Houston IV will revitalize the Lions defensive pass rush.

[@justindwainright]

Over the last two seasons, Jared Goff was top 5 for every major QB stats. (Yards, TD, comp%, INT,) But "hes not worth #2 highest paid QB" Yeah, okay... National media still clowning on the best team in the NFC.

[@DetroitLions23]

Does no one actually know the story about why the rams traded for Stafford? McVay and Stafford were vacationing coincidentally at the same place and they met for the first time. Whatever went down on that vacation is the reason why they traded for Stafford and sent Goff away. If that didn’t happen I doubt the rams would’ve traded for Stafford.

[@justinchilcutt5114]

Goff is an absolute superstar at QB he don’t have to be a Patrick mahomes. What’s so good about Tom Brady? They are both super smart football player and natural born leaders and Goff is last breed of pocket passing football. Goff is great and there is no other QB I want on me team than him

[@helmedon]

I think the blown lead falls more on the defense than on Goff.

[@ndbobby1]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time Chris says "Right?"

[@Baalzz302]

He said it at the exact time I read it on your comment, hahahaha

[@christopherjones9487]

In guaranteed money it comes out to an average of 42.5 million a season. I think that’s a pretty great deal for the Lions.

[@righteousisthelord180]

Is is a bad thing to have an entire offense and scheme built to succeed with a QBs strengths and limitations? Lions fan here and I am 1000% on Campbells calls and Holmes not getting us a super reliable kicker.

[@wpl8275]

Goff gets paid and they criticize Detroit. Dak Prescott is twisting in the wind and they criticize the Cowboys. Jalen Hurts gets paid and they say it's wonderful that Philly got their guy paid. Make up your freaking minds.

[@greatwhite3676]

jalenzz huRtzz is da manz thou yo

[@craigburgess7105]

NFC North is stacked - great rosters, coaching and, finally, the front offices. Tough tough division. Excited to see how it plays out

[@CompetitionSportsNetwork]

The NFC North is trash. The Bears are a mess, The Vikings are rebuilding, and Greenbay is average at best, so you are way off on that division being great! Typical Lions fan being dramatic all because you had one winning season last year LOL.

[@craigburgess7105]

@@CompetitionSportsNetwork ha ha ha I ain't no Lions fan pal / you've got your football binoculars the wrong way round. Turn them round and look at the real picture.🙈

[@BrianWiland]

Badgely was only on the team for 12 games of the season and went 10-13 from 40+, 77% make rate. Both drops by Reynolds were very catchable and it is literally how we got to that point in the playoffs, going for it on 4th and 2 from the goal line against the Rams and getting the TD to LaPorta and we won by 1, so that was the difference. You don’t change who you are in the 20th game of your season! Period!

[@Baalzz302]

The point is that DC has massive balls, and don't worry, he will not change. Because his balls are thaaat massive.

[@danzo626]

The nfl is never easy. I always said, I want the lions to reach the point where people hate on them, looks like we're there 😎.

[@truehearz]

Why do you talk down on goff he puts up min 21 points a game our defense now looks great so now we will see if this defense can step up if they do we will be in the superbowl this year and years to come.

[@MK22DeT]

Its almost like these two guys have said Goff was terrible in the past ✅ Now that he's successful just talk about past failures to support your already stated opinion✅ Now backpedal into he "could" win a Super Bowl, if everyone else wins it for him. Cause he obviously cannot be good cause they said he's not.✅ 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@michigunsanta8680]

The thing they fail to mention is both Gurley and Kupp were injured for that SB and Cooks dropped two huge passes. Another thing is is that Belichick system has always owned McVay! Even a terrible Lions team shut their offense down in their SB year in 2018 sans two long Gurley runs. Patricia actually gave Belichick the blueprint how to shut down their passing game. It’s not Goff problem it was McVays immaturity in his inflexibility of his system. He couldn’t make adjustments against that defensive scheme. He scapegoated Goff cause his own ego. He basically recently admitted it.

[@alschbachb]

Yes the total dollar amount for the Jared Goff extension was top of the market but when take as a percentage of the Salary Cap at time of signing his AAV is only 10th most. Goffs contract legit isn’t going to cripple the Lions at all, and it was smart to get him signed before, love, tua and Dak, and the QBS next off season which will probably be making 60mil a year. Cap is about to jump from 235 to 285 next year.

[@timwalsh8954]

I love listening to never was and legend in his own mind talk about, I'm best friends with Shanahan that is the greatest that can't win

[@alschbachb]

The 49ers loss didn’t stick to Goff because Goff had a great game, didn’t turn the ball over. Reynolds dropped a pass on 3rd down, and 4th down and Gibbs fumbled on the. All in the 3rd and 4th quarter. If one of those things doesn’t happen, the Lions win that game and go to the Super Bowl.

[@CompetitionSportsNetwork]

It was a lot more than that, you have a coach who refuses to kick field goals.

[@alschbachb]

@@CompetitionSportsNetwork that too, that being said the one kick was over 50 and our kickers percentage of making it over 50 outside was awful. We’re gonna get Bates I hope and we won’t have to worry about that issue this year.

[@Sam16Walker]

I think Dan Campbell had to gamble last year cause the Defense couldn’t get key stops in games. I think this year you’ll see a more refine game plan from Dan Campbell, his Defense can get a stop they have the players to make it happen.

[@righteousisthelord180]

And he could not trust his kicker over 40 yards. Drives me nuts. Get a damn kicker.

[@righteousisthelord180]

You guys need to calculate how much State Farm is paying Mahomes. I’m so sick of those dumb commercials and that’s my dang insurance company.

[@jasony8002]

Chris Simms you have been doing great on your podcasts and yes they are pretty popular. Florio you are also well liked and listened too in my opinion. You fellas are my two personal favorites to listen too for the right knowledge and McAfee comes after that. ☯

[@buckfiftyaverage]

The fourth and two ball was not way outside Chris. It was catchable, and by the receiver only. A good throw. And you guys need to get off Campbell’s calls. I detest playing it safe. What do you prefer, three runs up the middle, punt, and play prevent defence with a lead? Hate that! Don’t change, Rooster. Play to win

[@claylarson3021]

I wish I could take a bet on the Lions winning this and next years SB. JG is a great QB, get over it. Lions are the most complete team in the NFL this year, both the O and D are improved. And NO-ONE has their heads wrapped around how hard it is to beat the Lions when this season Lions will have a top 10 defense.

[@stefanpeters7449]

Does it not occur to Florio that maybe it’s the players who delay deals to try and get the biggest bag? I’m sure teams are well aware that the longer they wait, the more the price goes up, but so are players and agents…

[@tonyjordan6664]

It’s not Goff.. Dan Campbell’s aggressiveness will constantly bite their team in the ass in the worst times. For every time it works, it will ultimately fail against the top teams

[@righteousisthelord180]

My biggest fear along with AG coaching. If I was Shiela I’d stick my nose in and say get a damn kicker.

[@user-lr4nd1vb9w]

Way to go Harrison. These people will sue you for the truth. But the truth is the truth.

[@philbradley5599]

Didn't hear anything about the superbowl ! GO LIONS

[@julianlangdon5618]

I hope so

[@Brent6437]

Why is Mike talking about something that happened long ago. Goff is a Dawg. He might not look the part. If everyone does their job Goff can be that guy. 💥💙

[@Brent6437]

The Rams where hot. What’s Mike talking about ?

[@weontopdough1008]

Mike a sour Vikings fan 😂

[@Brent6437]

@@weontopdough1008 no kidding. Mike never has something nice to say about our Boyz.

[@gitchegumee3726]

Goff needs to step up

[@juliopaez4516]

McVay screwed up big time trading Goff. Goff is durable and still young. The Rams could’ve won the Super Bowl with Goff. Goff & Stafford have almost identical stats. Stafford maybe has a couple of years. I am a Rams fan and I wasn’t happy when McVay gave up on Goff. If Goff wins a SB with the Lions I bet many people will credit the OC, Campbell, the receivers, the OL, the stadium, but Goff. t puzzles me how much hate he gets.

[@martylucibello3087]

Stafford is signed through 2026? What are they talking about

[@FullMetalAttackTitan9tailsHero]

3:27 well i mean 31 points in the nfc championship game seems sufficient to me. Maybe the defense, j rey, gibbs, cjgj, etc could be responsible but what doni know??? I just watch every game, pay attention to every stat and interview...

[@McKennaMcKayVlogs]

Seriously. Them trying to put the blame on Goff for that second half is wild to me 😂🙄 last time I checked, Goff doesn’t play defense or kicker.

[@travesotom6890]

I give Goff about a 10% chance to win a Superbowl if everything falls into place 😆

[@codyb.3015]

Lions fans on r/nfl are generally not delusional at all, but the ones in this comment section clearly are. Never seen so many "Jared Goff is a top 5 QB" claims before in my life. No he is not, but that's okay, doesn't mean he isn't really good (When protected perfectly, ofc)

[@ck1011Original]

Bro, they talked about the clock thing with the bucs all the time, for a week until the next game. wtf is he talking about

[@thetealmustang]

This should be good. Florio glazed Cousins and always has something sideways to say about Goff

[@2Duv4Luv]

Mike Florio is the biggest Detroit Lions hater around. Get a damn grip Mikey. Bad teams don't stay bad forever.

[@yooperlite]

This wasn’t like the Rams decided to get rid of him, they were half in half out with him, and then the Lions situation presented with Stafford wanting a trade

[@michaelroberts6450]

There won't be single game on the schedule they can't win. Home or away.

[@lupinschocolate]

JJJ starting for the Vikings this year?

[@drthunder57]

Is Florio seriously going to talk about the clock management in the bucs game? Even IF the bucs called that timeout, they would have got the ball back with AT BEST 18 seconds left AFTER the Lions kicked a field goal to go up 11. His vikings bias and bitterness will hold on to anything and EVERYTHING to rip the Lions.

[@MattK754]

Wasn’t his fault we lost the NFC championship our defense couldn’t buy a 3rd down stop in the second half

[@johnnygazsports]

Tagging him was not a good option. Other good quarterbacks would then be making almost 60mil by that time and you want to alienate your winning quarterback because you’re afraid to pay him. Nah man!

[@wpl8275]

Who won the Eagles their Super Bowl in 2017? Nick Foles. Is he the guy who wins you a Super Bowl? What a really dumb question. Super Bowls are won by teams. Teams win Super Bowls. Not individual players. I bet you if you asked Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes about that they would say the same thing.

[@nsd_respect]

Hey Mike Flores, I mean Florio. How does it feel to be owned by Demeatrice Lamar Jackson?

[@fredricclack7137]

Lions TEAM 📴 D;$T!⚒️💙

[@user-bk6uu5hu6o]

I don’t see it working

[@nathanhoughton8951]

So when did Jared Goff act all whiny and then not show up at OTAs??? Why go off on all the what ifs and talking like Goff is acting all prima donna?

[@weiranjiang2874]

Goff is my QB even my classmate at Cal. He’s a great guy and I’ll root for him no matter which team he plays on. But I gotta be honest to say this is such a big contract. And even though I love Goff, he’s not worth that contract…he’s a Top 15 QB in the league for sure but not Top 5

[@Baalzz302]

Past two seasons he has been top 4 in every major category for QB's, and the #1 QB at his pay range (not named Mahomes) in playoff wins, super bowl appearances and not to mention turning around a historically bad franchise. Because Goff is a system QB, and doesn't have the arm talent as many other QB's, others and people like you write him off. I wrote him off before he was even traded to the Lions. I was nearly sick to my stomach when I head Goff to the Lions. Now, I couldn't be happier to admit I was wrong about him.

[@thenoseknows9391]

Dan Campbell should've been FIRED!!!!!!!

[@KennyPowers.]

3:48 Missed one FG😑😑😑😑, the exact reason I stopped watching these guys talk about the lions 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Jeremy-cg9re]

How many picks did he throw last year? Were they all against the Bears?😅😂 Bears DBS had his #

[@djdanicp]

Hey Florio.....calling out Goff's mistakes & failures from several years ago, rather than focusing on the fact that he is an entirely different & much better player than he was with the Rams is lazy journalism. Clearly your Lions hate has kept you from watching most of their games & as a result, you have failed your audience. Focusing on his time with the Rams & basing your criticism of Goff on it is like a financial advisor citing 4 year old company reports as a reason to avoid buying stock in a company that is currently crushing it & poised to continue to grow in value in the years to come. Goff is objectively one of the top 5-7 QBs in the NFL today statistically & is without a doubt capable of leading the Lions to a Super Bowl win (even multiple Super Bowl wins). It's true that he doesn't play off-script & isn't mobile, but the Lions offense doesn't ask that of him. Brady & Manning weren't mobile off-script QBs playing hero ball either & they are 2 of the best ever to play the position. I think Mahomes has distorted people's understanding of what it takes to be successful as a QB bc he has won so much recently, but he is one of a kind & not the new standard for what it takes to succeed as a QB going forward.

[@helmedon]

I don't think Goff really rates the big contract, but...he's the only known quantity they have at QB. Nobody knows what we have in Hendon Hooker. My opinion is they roll with Goff and wait for Hooker to develop into a better passer. I'm not a huge Goff fan for exactly why they pointed out. He's not going to put the team on his back. He needs everyone to play well or he will falter.

[@Baalzz302]

Hooker is like 3 years younger than Goff. I doubt they hold Hooker to replace Goff.

[@helmedon]

@@Baalzz302 Yeah, I thought about that after I posted that. More likely is they play Hooker extensively in preseason and use him as trade bait for draft capital. I'd like to see Hooker in this offence though. I've seen rumors that the Giants might be interested in getting him. Goff's contract goes 2 years after Hooker's rookie deal.

[@Baalzz302]

@@helmedon ya, I'd like to see Hooker play too, but i think if the Lions saw something in Hooker during practices, they probably wouldn't have extended Jared for more than a year or two.

[@helmedon]

@@Baalzz302 I was thinking about that too. It was likely why a deal took so long. Players, especially QBs wanting term stability in a contract. 4 years isn't really that long and Goff will be 30 in October. 2 years is the likely window for him and the Lions before we start to hear trade talks. Hooker just turned 26 I think and is I the 2nd year of his 4 year rookie contract. I think they're going to hang onto him for a couple years at least without another viable backup option to Goff. I honestly think he would do better in this offense if he can play up to his college potential. I believe they drafted him with that in mind. A mobile, strong armed QB who can create and push the ball down field. Basically everything Goff is not. I like Goff but he has to have structure around him to excel. He's just not that type of player. Not like Stafford was with us. Looking at the way Brad Holmes is building this roster I would expect heavy preseason play for Hooker to see where he's at mentally. He has the physical tools. Goff will be the unchallenged starter for the next 2-3 years with Hooker under contract. If they plan on elevating him to starter they will resign him on year 3 while Goff is on his 2nd year. Ideally keep Goff, in his prime,, starting but know that Hooker will be moving up into his prime years as well. Gonna have to decide whether to trade Goff or Hooker because we probably won't be able to keep both. Hooker has the size, power, athleticism and big play ability to make him a franchise QB. But we don't know if he can put it all together yet. Going to be a big camp and preseason.

[@Baalzz302]

@@helmedon still, with Stafford I kept thinking to myself, he is great "but" there was something he was doing wrong that I couldn't quite put my finger on. I figured it out finally, Stafford wasn't able to read the defenses pre-snap at even an avg level, he relied on his elite arm and post snap reads. Goff seems to know exactly what the defense is doing pre-snap, in turn motions a guy into a spot that creates the opening he needs to succeed, and has avg at best arm talent. Goff is a Field General same as Montana and Brady were, Brady just has a bit better arm, more consistent spirals and better pocket presence than Goff. Montana had better pocket presence and agility that made him mobile as well. Goff is just very underrated because he took 4 years to finally put it all together. I'm not saying Goff is Montana or Brady, just saying he is reminiscent and not that far behind Montana especially. Heck you could throw Manning in there too, Manning was very similar to Goff minus Mannings elite precision, timing and spiral.

[@alschbachb]

Minnesota is going to win 5 games, the Bears will win 7 games only because the Bears Schedule is so easy. The Packers will win 9-10 games and the Lions will Dominate the North again and go 14-3, first seed and make it to the Super Bowl.

[@CapnDan57]

Mahomes is making $20 million a year from State Farm alone! Add Adidas, Oakley, etc. = Big Bucks!

[@itsthisguyNeil]

Ah yes, lions content from the talking heads. When 40% of the segment is about the lions and the remaining 60% is waxing poetically about the teams that beat the lions and about how their head coach was once on the Super Bowl several years ago and how much they want to get back instead of…well you know…Lions content. “You can win a Super Bowl with Goff” 2 seconds later “And Shanahan wants to get back to the Super Bowl”

[@brandonchristopher9657]

The Raiders should be blowing up the Detroit Lions phone to trade for Hendon hooker. I would not let the Detroit Lions off the phone until I got a deal done. The Raiders are so desperate. This guy had a first round grade before he blew his knee out and he's 100% healthy. He's had a year to learn NFL way of life. He's had no off the field drama. That's huge for going to Las Vegas. And if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. The Raiders will still have their first, second and third round pick to make decisions on getting a quarterback next year, but they need to add talent to that quarterback room because what they currently have isn't good enough. They need to add competition and this guy. He needs to demand a trade through his agent because he'll never see the field

[@scattau41]

They got a quality backup for multiple years on the cheap. Raiders would have to drastically overpay.

[@brandonchristopher9657]

@@scattau41 What are you talking about? He's a rookie quarterback. You can get him for a draft pick LOL. What's the dramatic overpay? They don't have any leverage because they can't use him. He's a useless backup for the Detroit Lions, but he could be a valuable starter potentially for someone else. Remember Justin's fields was traded for a sixth round pick LOL And the contract they gave to Gardner minshew is not that much money. It's literally 2 years $25 million. That's nothing in the NFL. He's there so that if all else fails you have a solid quarterback who could play. He's basically Ryan Fitzpatrick at this point lol The Raiders need to add competition big time and a rookie quarterback who hasn't played yet who has a higher ceiling and was drafted higher than Aiden O'Connell is a move I would make in a heartbeat

[@coreypatterson1007]

​@@brandonchristopher9657he should be the starter the useless one just got overpaid!

[@brianwelsh2810]

Well said!

[@555calex]

My Raiders could have had the top shut-down corner on the board and draft a position they don't need and I'm not knocking the player drafted it just was the wrong pick.

[@jamesbond1586]

All the blind witnesses are talking about narrative. There is no narrative. He has never won a Superbowl. Everything has to be perfect for this man to win. You can win with him, but if youre going to win a superbowl then every single star player must be healthy. Every single one. That simple. Because if that isn't the case, then you'll be debating whether it's time to get rid of him or not.

[@klardfarkus3891]

They talk about every QB winning the Super Bowl but claim lamar Jackson has zero chance. I count lamar is the worst QB in the league.

[@Lionize728]

Florio is full of bs speculation and insulting while "complimenting."

[@CompetitionSportsNetwork]

ZERO chance! They had one good year and now they think its time for a Super Bowl?

[@Baalzz302]

It all depends on the reffing team they receive. If fair play refs, 100%

[@gerbertron3226]

They will come back to reality this year… sorry Detroit

[@jimnfl7134]

Don't crown them yet, ask the 49ers and Eagles.

[@noahm7977]

Lets see what certified lions hater florio thinks 😂

[@henrywallacesghost5883]

I think he has a 1/32 chance of winning the Super Bowl😂

[@djdanicp]

It's at least 1/28.....considering the fact that the Broncos, Cardinals, Panthers & Patriots have a combined 0.00% chance of winning a Super Bowl this year & shouldn't even be considered as part of the field of teams that could potentially win it as a long shot.

[@brianwelsh2810]

There are 10 quarterbacks in the NFL that could easily win a super bowl with the Lions team as stacked as it is and Detroit pays a guy with zero mobility who does intermediate very well but struggles with every other throw. Should have just let him play out his contract and let the next team pay him.

[@jasondeslatte7611]

bingo thats what ive been trying to tell Lions fans,in 2 years theyll be cursing this contract and itll be back to the bottom of the NFC north

[@Siberian_Chipmunk]

I shouldn't even reply but I'm going to. You should actually watch film before you comment. JG doesn't struggle with every other throw that's not intermediate. Considering he led the league with the deep ball last year, which apparently you don't know, tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of JG. Do some research before you comment

[@jasondeslatte7611]

@@Siberian_Chipmunk you clearly didnt do your research to come up with that take

[@hotsauce879]

@@jasondeslatte7611hey dip s*it he led the NFL in 20 plus yrds completions. Has the best QBR in football over the last two yrs in the 4th Q and in the Redzone. Has thrown the most TDs in the NFC the last two yrs and led a top 5 offense in that time as well. Ya may wanna do some research before popping off. Lamb

[@silent1759]

​@jasondeslatte7611 lmao stay salty kid.

[@mr.williamh2924]

Mike Florio is so full of crap, dude.😂😂😂 He's the epitome of a Vikings fan..😂😂FOH GO LIONS!

[@troll_hunter9141]

lol... Deshaun Watson high on the top 10 and he's accomplished absolutely nothing in 2 years on the roster. Embarrassing.

[@scottymo8597]

I said lions jump the gun paying Goof all that money. Probably gonna flop like Flaco Did . After the Superbowl. Win. Yeah.

[@kclark8080]

Did this guy just try to scheme dissention into the Lions org with a fantastical, imaginary scenario?

[@brianwelsh2810]

History will show the Rams killed it in the deal for Stafford.