NFS Hot Pursuit 2 - Vehicles changes (Alpha 0.98)

Recently a new build of NFS: Hot Pursuit 2 for PS2 has been dumped! Alpha 0.98 is the earliest build we ever got in the Black Box era and there are tons of differences between this build and the final game to check out!
Playable traffic/cops mod download: nfsmods.xyz/mod/360
Music:
A.I. - Blue Harvest
Rom Di Prisco - Cykloid

[@379Felipe]

Regarding the TRUCK01_SKIN1_DK_BLUE, a matching model for it has been found in UG1. Read more here: kzbin.infoUgkxUgeJmUFtXFuQjVyhnp-foazzv66rmwGI

[@379Felipe]

Btw, happy new year!

[@tonyfox_47]

Happy new year to you too! I'm very glad you're here again uploading these types of videos 🎉

[@CharlemagneAkira]

Thanks, same to you 🎉

[@florinszasz5506]

you too

[@cruise1o1]

Same to you

[@DaRealBruner]

Blackbox mindset: DEV 1: "Hey, so you know how, typically on taxi cabs, they have this checkered pattern on them? It's one of the main defining characteristics of your typical taxi?" DEV 2: "Yeah?" DEV 1: "And you know how we decided to incorporate such a key detail onto the taxi model in our game?" DEV 2: "Go on..." DEV 1: "What if we just, y'know... got rid of it for no reason what-so-ever? If we like, went out of our way to straight up remove this detail from the texture? Just because whatever?" DEV 2: "Genius..."

[@tropixx_xlr1549]

Very weird, same thing with rereleasing this game on PC but as a different title.

[@Housesider]

@@tropixx_xlr1549 That's coz Black Box did the PS2 version, and the Xbox, Gamecube, and Windows version were all basically the same bespoke version done by EA Seattle.

[@Victor_2000s]

What a shame, the cut 360 Modena and McLaren F1 cockpit models, showing the developers wanted to bring back the first person view for all cars just like happened to the first Hot Pursuit. Possibly they doens't got much time to finish and let only 3 cars have the cockpit view.

[@25Berlina]

Wdym? Only 3 cars have cockpit view 360 spider 550 barchetta F50

[@Victor_2000s]

@@25Berlina If forgot about F50.

[@Gigidag77]

I find the track changes more fascinating. Tropical Circuit had the longer PC layout (I guess they had issues with the PS2 handling that huge of a track) + Rocky Canyons (although VERY unfinished in this alpha) had a full course layout like seen on it's map even in the final game. (It's still a 1 lap sprint course in-game)

[@Kraklin]

happy new year bro, been here since the ug2 secrets days. A toast to health and our never ending nostalgia to old nfs games.

[@379Felipe]

Happy new year for you too!

[@TheRageLivesOn]

i was exploring this build for myself and i was so caught off guard when Complicated by Avril Lavigne started playing. one of the Blackbox devs must have been going through it 😂

[@derosiflo6524]

ngl, i kinda miss it when traffic cars were unlicensed. also would have loved to have the police cars be in different colors/liveries depending on the location. Like Hawaiian police from the tropical setting to Greek scheme in the mediterranean setting, etc edit: the golden M5 slaps, damn it looks good

[@flame_101]

And the Local Police feature that was in High Stakes

[@QF_Dan72]

Not to mention having race circuits in the game. In High Stakes, you work your way from being a street racer all the way to being a GT racer. I wished they do that for HP2 too

[@Wheresthepepsibismol]

​@@flame_101I swear that game had the best features of any 90s NFS game I still play it on the PS1

[@Victor_2000s]

Finally a pre-release version of PS2 Hot Pursuit 2 was found! I hope someone can dump and post the PS2 demo for the public.

[@hameedi229]

PLEASE ... I am an Hot Pursuit Fans from Malaysia🇲🇾

[@Victor_2000s]

@@hameedi229 ?

[@RedPolarBearRanger]

The numbers on the police cars were seen in promotional artwork for the game before they were changed for the final release.

[@Victor_2000s]

The traffic Mustang model was the tailights changed in final version.

[@alexsaffamerica]

1:38 No wonder the hatchback had unused Focus-like textures all this time. By the way, I'm interested in the build having cut music. EDIT: Nvm, the cut songs are all listed on NFSSoundtrack.

[@Kacpa2]

I still dont understand why they run Traffic car level of detail so horribly in Underground 1 and 2. HP2 models look so good and have various colours, while UG1 and UG2 models look blurry and lost the variation.

[@DaRealBruner]

It gets weird when you realize the fact that in the universe of Underground and Underground 2, there exists both the real life Ford Focus and a fictional counterpart simultaneously.

[@RedPolarBearRanger]

These models are the same across all these games you mentioned including the 00-05 Chevrolet Impala Sedan & Taxi cab for example it wasn't until Need for Speed: Most Wanted that the traffic cars were changed. Those models were kept until Need for Speed: World while Undercover on PC, X-Box 360, & PS3 got new traffic cars. While on PS2 & Wii the Most Wanted/Carbon/World traffic cars also are used.

[@BraiaCorno]

​​@@RedPolarBearRangerand nfs undercover strangely use burnout paradise traffic

[@DaRealBruner]

@@BraiaCorno I saw an interesting theory a while ago. Skate 3 actually has some higher poly versions of NFS:MW's traffic, and what they thought was maybe Blackbox wanted to remaster all of MW's traffic the same way they did with the Civic Cruiser and Rhino, but eventually ran out of time to remake every single traffic car, so they had to resort to recycling models from Burnout. Then eventually those models they had gotten around to making found a new home in Skate 3.

[@Kacpa2]

@@RedPolarBearRanger Yes but the way they were rendered and textured deteriorated severly compared to HP2. But then so are player cars since both ug1 and ug2 and all other ps2 releases didnt have interiors or animated driver models.

[@Housesider]

I gotta get a hold of this, the Black Box PS2 version of HP2 is legitimately my favorite entry in the entire series. Amazing tracks, fantastic vehicle handling, gorgeous visuals that still hold up today, and the bangin soundtrack, honestly just a masterclass of a game. Thanks for the video!

[@SonicBoone56]

Been awhile since I've seen a video from you. Nice to see you're still around.

[@379Felipe]

Hey, thanks!

[@mrredchevelle2672]

I couldn't believe all of the NFS Ed. cuts they made, and the interior models! Great video!

[@cleitoxl]

FELIZ ANO NOVO FELIPE

[@nathanshome]

First Hot Wheels Velocity X beta dump and now this? I'm super excited

[@Rutekos]

Oh god Perfect! My first and favorite nfs

[@tropixx_xlr1549]

Awesome stuff! I wish they would have kept that Focus look alike, but they probably won't because of licensing issues

[@heimanlee5955]

This could be a start if PS2 Hot Pursuit 2 gets a Plus mod. What stopped the BMW NFS editions, really? They are really protective for their cars in video games these days.

[@alexsaffamerica]

Back in the 2000s, BMW was strict about tuning, hence why they were cut in Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition and there were no BMW cars at the Car Lot in MW.

[@heimanlee5955]

@@alexsaffamerica Perhaps that explained why PS1 High Stakes has a cut color for Z3 & car models were very basic in Gran Turismo until 4. They finally got the note by Most Wanted 2005...

[@0047sssss]

It was like that up until Prostreet, that why the M3 GTR in MW & Carbon can't be modified as well

[@Phantom-YT19]

This is my first time seeing the Alpha version.

[@Leyuhm]

Happy New Year bruh! Thanks for showcasing the alpha of my favorite NFS game. Possible to find this anywhere to test / play?

[@379Felipe]

Happy new year! You can find it in HiddenPalace

[@elaymm4]

poggers video

[@379Felipe]

thx

[@alexandregamer0001]

Feliz Ano Novo 379 Felipe

[@379Felipe]

Feliz ano novo

[@NeoGraena]

Beta Cop Murcielago looks kinda dope ngl

[@xijinping2732]

So what tool are you using to export nfs hp2 ps2 textures and models? If you have this tool please provide it to me.

[@nerdius8204]

Traffic 12 looks like a golf mk2

[@Andrometer_]

14:40 As a person from the Gran Turismo modding community, i am happy that BB fixed the issue of having the wrong CLK right away. In GT's case, Polyphony (accidently or not) misinformated people calling the CLK-LM Race car as the CLK GTR in GT4 and GT PSP and never fixed it for some reason. Though id honestly love to see the CLK-LM Road Car in the final HP2

[@379Felipe]

imagine all CLKs in one game LM, GTR, Strassenversion, SuperSport, Convertible etc NFS CLK Unleashed

[@Andrometer_]

@@379Felipe Does CLK DTM count lol?

[@379Felipe]

@@Andrometer_ofc

[@DJTHEDGames]

By the way, if you don't mind me asking, are there tools that exist to extract model and texture data from HP2/PS2? Wanted to do something with the models of the cars or even the tracks a while back, but ran into a brick wall finding anything that can read the internal archives of this particular Black Box game.

[@379Felipe]

Modelulator can extract some of the console stuff. It can be found in NFSTools discord or by contacting @þulim#9816

[@ryosuketheberserker7701]

That BMW M5s livery looks great. Maybe someone will make a mod to receive it

[@firajessica806]

when is the new version of the improvement mod?

[@SonicZR1]

Is debug cam or some kind of noclip functionality possible in this build? I would've loved to explore The Lot map, which seems to be an early version of desert area, but everything besides a small loop is blocked off with invisible walls.

[@379Felipe]

Press select in the second controller

[@SonicZR1]

@@379Felipe Thaank you! ...hey, this looks nothing like final desert area: i.imgur.com/13SZ64x.png

[@379Felipe]

​@@SonicZR1 Yep, its quite interesting

[@flame_101]

As good as this game was, it was a huge downgrade from High Stakes. No mirrored tracks, no bad weather mode, no night time, no local police feature, no upgrading cars, no cockpit cams except for 3 cars, cars info are much more smaller and shorter, and etc.

[@QF_Dan72]

Not to mention the progression system is really monotonous. They added a tournament tree that let's you pick your own path but man.....some events were way too long with so much races or laps. Unlike in High Stakes where you take part in each events where you have to buy cars, upgrade and repair them. Some events require entry fees too. I really like the details they added here as opposed to HP2 which seems....empty

[@flame_101]

@@QF_Dan72 as much as i like HP2 it gets too much praise honestly, and people rarely points out the bad things in it

[@RetroGameplay731]

Não sei bem como começar a explicar mas olá, notei algo muito interessante no seu mod, Que está disponível para este jogo, Quer dizer pelo menos a versão final dele, Percebi que se você usar a aparência duplicata azul skin do BMW Z8 quando você se afasta demais da câmera a skin simplesmente muda para sua versão Alpha/Beta NFS version, Não sei se você vai entender bem o que estou querendo dizer mas parece que a skin da versão Beta ainda está dentro do jogo de alguma maneira, Bom de qualquer maneira não sei se você sabe disso mas eu notei pelo menos.

[@379Felipe]

Isso são mipmaps, que se for explicar de forma basica, são LODs para texturas. Sobre a Z8, Incrivel, nunca tinha percebido isso

[@AuToMaNiAk005]

22:04 Except the tachometer code is assigned to speedometer needle and vice versa :P

[@379Felipe]

Finally someone noticed xd

[@satsumagt5284]

Nah, he’s just going THAT slow while his engine revs to the moon

[@bloroxcleech]

How'd you get access to all the tracks and cars? i for the life of me cannot figure out how to do so lol

[@379Felipe]

I did some changes so they could show up in the menu. You can even use them but the game will crash once you finish the race

[@TheRageLivesOn]

i figured it out, you just press L1 in the car selection screen and they all unlock. you dont get the traffic cars or hidden ones like he shows in this video, but you do get the other ones. same for the tracks, just press L1 on them and they unlock

[@379Felipe]

The video's description has been updated with a link to a mod for the build Alpha 0.98

[@NismoRacer00]

Btw didn't "The Making Of NFS Hot Pursuit 2" behind the scenes showcased a weird footage of another cut dash model?

[@379Felipe]

Thats just the 550 Barchetta

[@NismoRacer00]

@@379Felipe ah I see, my bad!

[@379Felipe]

@@NismoRacer00no worries

[@ToyosatomimiNoMikoTaoism]

AI traffic Focus? My life could've been so much more complete

[@QF_Dan72]

Ford Focus as an AI traffic, i don't think they would license an actual car for traffics that you can't drive.

[@Enrygoesbrrrrr]

You can select traffic cars without any patch in this build?

[@379Felipe]

You can't. I did some changes so they could show up in the menu. You can even use them but the game will crash once you finish the race

[@Enrygoesbrrrrr]

@@379Felipe aww thats sad, im really interested in unusable cars like traffic cars in racing game lmao, thanks for answering

[@379Felipe]

The video's description has been updated with a link to a mod for the build Alpha 0.98

[@nebulafdv2]

How did you got traffic cars unlocked ?

[@379Felipe]

by editing the game memory

[@379Felipe]

The video's description has been updated with a link to a mod for the build Alpha 0.98

[@nebulafdv2]

@@379Felipe thanks

[@user-rx3sd3ih6d]

Why they dont use a licenced traffic cars? Ford focus look much better than ordinary hatchback. And they got police victoria, why not use a taxi version?

[@RcaMan100]

Hi! How did you unlock every car and play as traffic cars?

[@379Felipe]

I had to hex edit the game

[@RcaMan100]

@@379Felipe Do you still have the hex codes? that's like gameshark stuff from what it sounds like

[@379Felipe]

@@RcaMan100 Nope, its complicated

[@379Felipe]

The video's description has been updated with a link to a mod for the build Alpha 0.98

[@RcaMan100]

@@379Felipe Sick bro! Thanks man!

[@shydra1]

Hi Felipe, can I somehow get in touch with you? Cheers

[@379Felipe]

Yeah?

[@shydra1]

@@379Felipe not sure if my reply went through because of a link I’ve posted. Check your hidden replies.🤝🏻 Either way as a dedicated long-term player of HP2 I have some suggestions for your awesome HP2 mod, if you’re interested.

[@379Felipe]

No other commend of yours showed up, weird. Anyway, what suggestions?

[@shydra1]

@@379Felipe It involves some more tweaking of the game if it’s possible. Mod expansion suggestions for 379Felipe's mod: General tweaks * 6, 12, 18 or more Laps races * Spikes only instead of roadblocks * 2 cop chases instead of 1 with a full grid of opponents Car tweaks (for better balance) * Fix the loose controls of the Murcielago (uncontrollable when over 180mph) * Move the CL 55 to the B class * Move the HSV to the C class * Move the Vanquish to the B class * Move the F50 to the A class * Move the Corvette to the C class Miscellaneous * 0.98 Prototype Car paints port * 0.98 Prototype Soundtrack port

[@379Felipe]

@@shydra1as much as i want, those are mostly likely impossible currently

[@spear1534]

just here to ask not to upload broken or duped ISO files that dont work. did all instructions which there is only 3 steps and nothing but a duplicated ISO file

[@379Felipe]

??????????? no isos have been uploaded

[@spear1534]

No no, me and a group of friends downloaded your ps2 mod for 20362 while using delta. We got nothing but a brand new save file with the same cars but different iso name

[@379Felipe]

@@spear1534 NTSC? It should be fine if you applied the correct .xdelta file. Several other people installed this mod just fine

[@spear1534]

Yea! I tried both! All for the USA version. I load in and the default cars are there nothing changed. Even after following all the instructions. Can you send me the modded iso? I’ve tried over 5 times now

[@spear1534]

What’s supposed to happen when you start the game up? Should all cars be unlocked?