Can I DRY AGE Steak in a VACUUM?

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Nate From the Internet

Nate From the Internet

Жыл бұрын

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@GugaFoods
@GugaFoods Жыл бұрын
Got to say this was super interesting experiment Nate. I need you got to come over once again. I got a mad idea but need you to make it happen. It involves DANGER!
@OutOfNamesToChoose
@OutOfNamesToChoose Жыл бұрын
I can't wait!
@soumynonareverse7807
@soumynonareverse7807 Жыл бұрын
Me neither. Another thing: what if you dry age steak in the lowest freezedry setting?
@LordMegatherium
@LordMegatherium Жыл бұрын
If you want to reverse-sear with a laser: hit up @styropyro He might have the necessary hardware :D
@AlistairGale
@AlistairGale Жыл бұрын
We already saw what happened to Angel, can we afford to lose Nate too?
@dev0nklein
@dev0nklein Жыл бұрын
I will now wait and see what will happen
@Chevsilverado
@Chevsilverado Жыл бұрын
About grades, the whole cow is labeled “choice” or “prime”, not the individual cut. This leads to situations where you can have choice that looks like a prime and prime that looks like a choice, just because that specific muscle on that cow was especially good or bad.
@rustbucket9318
@rustbucket9318 Жыл бұрын
As a professional beef eater I will corroborate this comment.
@skm9420
@skm9420 Жыл бұрын
@@rustbucket9318 yes
@dk8278
@dk8278 Жыл бұрын
Good info. I always just use my eye not the grade. Now I know y.
@YouCanIwill
@YouCanIwill Жыл бұрын
As a butcher for many many years...this is a very factual statement! As a Certified Angus Beef dealer, this is even more true. The beef is graded, not the individual primals or sub primals... unfortunately. I personally regrade each cut...as an opinion, when I sell it. Have no issue telling someone this is more a choice grade than a prime. Even though I will make more just slapping the Prime label on it as allowed by law
@sgtslotter8634
@sgtslotter8634 Жыл бұрын
I often end up with lower cost cuts of meat such as chuck that beat the pants off of all the ribeyes next to it just from paying attention
@nicolasbazan5038
@nicolasbazan5038 9 ай бұрын
works great. i love that it has stainless steal pot inside kzbin.infoUgkxG-7WiT7ocumjytOpHDFt632PL0pxXRAg and not the one with coating. we used to have a coated pot before, and the coating slowly peels, and i am sure went into the food that we cooked. Absolutely love stainless steel, and will not use a coated product again.This pot has many settings and many buttons, and i need to sit down with a manual to figure out which setting to use. I used the basic functions, and even though i am not technologically skilled, i turned it on and assembled it without any help.Very satisfied with this product overall.
@meiru2453
@meiru2453 Жыл бұрын
I like how you are now collaborating and having fun with other youtubers. TKOR gave you experience to be a host and now you created something greater. I'm happy to see that.
@Thats-It
@Thats-It Жыл бұрын
Grant would have never let him go
@theaberrantdon
@theaberrantdon Жыл бұрын
I agree. I like seeing Nate go off on his own to do his own thing with the style he developed at TKOR. It's like watching a whole new arc of a show you really like!
@theaberrantdon
@theaberrantdon Жыл бұрын
@@Thats-It I was mad about that for a while and I don't really watch TKOR anymore, but I'm really enjoying the opportunity to see that energy go off in these new directions with food and knives. I feel like we gained something new, rather than lost something. The old videos of Grant and Nate are still up, so now we get to have both.
@goddums7549
@goddums7549 Жыл бұрын
Boil a soup in a vacuum chamber and taste it 😁
@theaberrantdon
@theaberrantdon Жыл бұрын
@HaloAceGamerTV he did a video about it. Look that up. It explains everything much better than any of us could just describing the video to you.
@HellOnFourLegs
@HellOnFourLegs Жыл бұрын
this video is so guga-ish, he got the fancy meats, the salt pepper and garlic powder, the wireless thermometer, even the badass red hot charcoal into the grill montage with rock music lol
@lani6647
@lani6647 Жыл бұрын
And meat dealer emilio
@gackmcshite4724
@gackmcshite4724 Жыл бұрын
He turned them with a fork?
@eigengrau7698
@eigengrau7698 Жыл бұрын
Smell some more collab tho
@dbuckleton
@dbuckleton Жыл бұрын
i wasn't convinced the BBQ was up to temp and the first turn seemed to show issues with the sear
@DrGreerIsRight
@DrGreerIsRight 8 ай бұрын
Guga's rock music on the montages are so cringey. It's literally like 50 year olds playing the most cringey, cliche fuckin riffs. Worse than nickelback's power chords. I'm serious guys, as a musician, a metal and rock drummer, the music guga uses is just awful. But I also am of the opinion that guga is an idiot and a pawn of the consume, sleep, repeat agenda.
@Mattiaskrantz
@Mattiaskrantz Жыл бұрын
Sear the steak in a 1 million volt arc!
@GR-ez7jy
@GR-ez7jy Жыл бұрын
HELLO
@mattheww.2386
@mattheww.2386 Жыл бұрын
Why not make a lazer piano and sear the steak with it? Collab of the week for sure. I would say the year but... Nobody watching KZbin has the attention span to remember it for longer than a week. 2 days is asking a lot actually.
@mattheww.2386
@mattheww.2386 Жыл бұрын
@@MadBeaver. Why not go full balls to the wall? Pipe Organ that fires mortar shells.
@SorenJohnsonGuitar
@SorenJohnsonGuitar Жыл бұрын
cook a steak with a piano somehow
@ferretly
@ferretly Жыл бұрын
piano man spotting
@HWK3R
@HWK3R Жыл бұрын
this is officially the new king of random. you’ve gotten grants editing style almost spot on. record from the kitchen, coming up with the most random yet interesting ideas. i love it, keep it up nate!
@naoiseleane7489
@naoiseleane7489 Жыл бұрын
what? this is literally nothing like the way Grant did it.
@VhonBautistaOfficial
@VhonBautistaOfficial 10 ай бұрын
I Respect your opinion but I Disagree. He is not the NEW king of random, he is the original Nate from the internet. To be specific, he is not trying to be the new king of random, he is being himself.
@notpiyoku9866
@notpiyoku9866 10 ай бұрын
no, i disagree, no one will take the title the king of random, thats kinda disrespectful if u think abt it.
@johnlongmore5750
@johnlongmore5750 Жыл бұрын
Guga did that one in wax (was it cheese wax?), and it worked fine without wasting the outside into pellicle so the drying doesn't seem to be that important, just aging without excess moisture or unwanted microbial action. Maybe you could just seal it up in a good clear bag and keep the outside sterile with a UV light (carefully of course, eyesight hazard there), or more exotically, put the sealed pack through a gamma sterilizer (if you have a USDA accredited irradiation facility around, the USDA site says the exist anyway) before refrigerating for 35-40 days.
@benedictul
@benedictul Жыл бұрын
Well, since we're on the subject of high-energy EM radiation, you could also try answering the age-old question: "Will synchrotron radiation tenderize/sear/cook a steak?". Maybe the folks at Berkeley could assist. To paraphrase an earlier comment, THAT would be the collab of the year.
@abydosianchulac2
@abydosianchulac2 Жыл бұрын
@@benedictul The follow up question would be "Is it hazardous to eat," or "Who among our taste testers had a death wish?"
@benedictul
@benedictul Жыл бұрын
@@abydosianchulac2 Those are valid questions. The formation and persistence of free radicals under the effect of X-rays would be a concern, as well as potential secondary reactions that would lead to stable, toxic compounds. However, more traditional methods for cooking steaks, such as searing or grilling, are also prone to forming those reactive and potentially toxic species. I don't see anyone batting an eye when Guga finishes his sous-vide steaks using a flamethrower - though, to be fair, that only affects the surface of the steak while X-rays would penetrate throughout its whole volume. It should be noted that, by definition, free radicals are unstable and reactive species, so they would eventually decay by reacting with nearby molecules and recombining with other radicals. So the question becomes: "Would the X-ray beam produce an unsafe level of free radicals in the steak, and for how long?". How long does one have to rest their X-ray steak, anyways? Important questions for science.
@Volt64bolt
@Volt64bolt Жыл бұрын
@@benedictul “species” lol
@monhi64
@monhi64 Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that ‘concentrating’ the entire cut by effectively evaporating off a large amount of the pure water in the beef was a big part of the dry aging process. Then again the wet experiments guga did went pretty well, that pellicle is super wasteful
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 Жыл бұрын
I can't help but laugh how hard Nate's channel absolutely spanks TKOR. I shouldn't enjoy that so much, but here we are.
@bargen0w
@bargen0w Жыл бұрын
while in terms of cutting costs i do understand why the financial team at TKOR did what they did with firing their old star hosts, but it was still a pretty foolish idea. i know long before Grant passed away, he already had nothing to do with the content making process anymore, but i am still surprised how nate and callie didnt have creative freedom with making videos. a lot of where the channel started to decline is from how disconnected it seemed from its fans and just did whatever the marketing team Thought may get the most views.
@jena_thornwyrd
@jena_thornwyrd Жыл бұрын
idk how TKOR evolved… I unsubed a while ago… It was not fun anymore.
@truejim
@truejim Жыл бұрын
Yah I was just thinking: this is yet ANOTHER video that’s more TKOR than what TKOR uploads.
@truejim
@truejim Жыл бұрын
@@jena_thornwyrd Yah, TKOR basically became experiments a child could do. “What happens if we pour Elmer’s glue on Fruit-Loops.“
@tevinabeysekera6038
@tevinabeysekera6038 Жыл бұрын
I remmeber their old videos. I attepted to copy Grant's microwave transformer welder when I was in 11th grade. First time I almost killed myself.
@lazerblazer528
@lazerblazer528 Жыл бұрын
You should make more videos with guga you guys work amazing together!
@NFTI
@NFTI Жыл бұрын
We plan to! What would you like to see us try?
@mattgio1172
@mattgio1172 Жыл бұрын
@@NFTI Make a knife out of steak!
@lazerblazer528
@lazerblazer528 Жыл бұрын
@@NFTI maybe a cheap vs expensive dry rub/marinade
@kamipls6790
@kamipls6790 Жыл бұрын
@@NFTI do another 1000$ Wagyu vid, so he can tell ppl how tender the meat is, while others don't have sht to eat 😍
@Random42
@Random42 Жыл бұрын
@@NFTI thermite steaks?
@jasonlloyd3984
@jasonlloyd3984 Жыл бұрын
The pump you had had an ultimate pressure of roughly 5 Pa. This is well enough to vaporize water, even at cold temps. Problem is, you kept your vacuum off most of the time. Water would be drawn from the meat and then condense and collect at the bottom of the chamber. You need to keep the vacuum running at all times. It doesn't help that you have poor conductance as well. I'm not sure that pump could handle running 24x7 for 4 weeks.
@bennyvontrap5843
@bennyvontrap5843 11 ай бұрын
Vacuum pumps are designed to run for very long hre
@BelviGER
@BelviGER 10 ай бұрын
​@bennyvontrap5843 thank God there is zero variations and all vacuum pumps are exactly the same and made for 24/7 operation
@bennyvontrap5843
@bennyvontrap5843 10 ай бұрын
@@BelviGER your being fasitious Any standard 2 stroke oil vacuum pump bought from any hardware store 9 desighned for long running hours , so the majority of vacuum pumps cam be run constantly
@dominik1985sulzbach
@dominik1985sulzbach 6 ай бұрын
Wenn man es richtig machen will dann mit einer Membranvakuumpumpe. Die Pumpe dauerhaft laufen lassen und eine Zukunft am besten Stickstoff eingestellt auf 6hPa. Unterhalb von 6hPa wird Wasser zu Eis, das wäre schlecht. Durch die dauerhafte Förderung wird Wasser entfernt und dich den Stickstoffdruck eine Eisbildung verhindert. Ich mache sowas beruflich. Allerdings hat man dann nach 2 Tagen Trockenfleisch
@SullySadface
@SullySadface 4 ай бұрын
​@@dominik1985sulzbachSo 12 - 24 hours should really be enough
@Fluffykunn
@Fluffykunn Жыл бұрын
I love how Nate's channel has more of TKOR energy Grant started than Grant's original channel has now. RIP Grant, Keep up the good work Nate❤❤❤
@senmetwo42
@senmetwo42 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video! You took the classic dry age video and added your own spin on it, your love of science and experiments will always bring me back
@Impossible_Fishy
@Impossible_Fishy Жыл бұрын
At first, when I learned about you from Tkor if I’m being honest, I really wasn’t on board. After grants passing I missed the old more genuine side of the channel, it just became so corporate. But after seeing you make content on your own let’s me realize you have that passion that grant had, thanks Nate for all the work you’ve put in.
@Brok3nC4rrot
@Brok3nC4rrot Жыл бұрын
I would reccommend a weekly re-pressurise--drain--turn--revacuum cycle to make a more consistent dry age on the vacc'd steak now that you know the water doesn't leave and the meat had a moisture gradient when untouched
@dougfoster445
@dougfoster445 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see your channel is thriving Nate!
@marcusmello69
@marcusmello69 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nate, what about Botulism? Isn’t that a concern on low oxygen environments such as a vacuum chamber? Thanks
@itninja9503
@itninja9503 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a terrible Idea... If it goes bad you're gonna get really sick.
@Excludos
@Excludos Жыл бұрын
The bit that was sitting in its own juices wasn't dry aged, it was wet aged (which is akin to leaving the meat in a vacuum sealed bag in the fridge, which Guga just did a video on a few weeks ago). Wet aging does indeed make the steak more tender, but doesn't come with the typical dry age taste. It would be interesting to see if it's possible to combine the two. Perhaps wet age first, and then dry age. But wet aging does have some health concerns that needs to be ironed out before it can be replicated safely. It will rot if left too long, even under vacuum
@Verriks
@Verriks 9 ай бұрын
Maybe dry age and the reintroduce moisture in a vacuum over 2 weeks? the low temps and the vacuum should keep the meat from spoiling. actually seeing the other responses concerning the vacuum being pulled only for 4 min/h and then saturating with water again happend to not harm the wet age process, maybe even a small pump sitting at the bottom pumping meat juices over the cut to get it to be homogeneous?
@CarlWiles
@CarlWiles 4 ай бұрын
Typically the method is to dry age followed by sous vide or reverse sear in order to slow cook the steak which helps break down the fibers in a similar manner to wet age, without the rot risk
@Tootyfart760
@Tootyfart760 Жыл бұрын
I just want to take some time to admire your dedication to science and these cool experiments. The amount of time and EFFORT you put into your work speaks for itself!!! I don't know much about knifes, meat, or welding, but the way you speak about these things in your videos it keeps me watching! Awesome videos Nate. Long time fan😊😊
@Gabugaburere
@Gabugaburere Жыл бұрын
Man I'm so glad Nate's ideas and efforts are doing great in his own channel. It's great to come back and see his subs and views all up
@joshsickles1163
@joshsickles1163 Жыл бұрын
I got super hungry watching this. I need to get some dry age bags now!
@BlooCollaGal
@BlooCollaGal Жыл бұрын
The hard part is waiting 35 days.
@1NSX1CH7
@1NSX1CH7 Жыл бұрын
🤤
@yodatw
@yodatw Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting. I really enjoy when we can test science to see immediate benefits! It is fun!
@markthebeat406
@markthebeat406 10 ай бұрын
Nate I am so happy for you, your channel is doing amazing!
@LeesReviews69
@LeesReviews69 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad your channel is popping off after your last gig. Amazing content as always!
@NFTI
@NFTI Жыл бұрын
If you want to see a time lapse of the steak in the vacuum chamber, check out the story on my Instagram, nate_from_the_internet now!
@Aaron-zu3xn
@Aaron-zu3xn Жыл бұрын
wet brine should absorb when you release the vacuum right?
@DynamicWatcher
@DynamicWatcher Жыл бұрын
My dude, include a link to the video you did with Guga in the description! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYTCYXanbL6SgrM Cross Promotion!
@zeroblackenz344
@zeroblackenz344 Жыл бұрын
ham is also dry aged try making ham
@creach34
@creach34 Жыл бұрын
I like this Idea and water is a good thermal conductor.😀
@LambGoatSoup
@LambGoatSoup Жыл бұрын
Don't do this. Get a new vacuum chamber, and drain it properly, hang the steak higher, and use a bigger piece of meat for a better chance of big steaks from the center.
@PaulDominguez
@PaulDominguez Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video. Nate, I feared for your health every bit
@qara_ch
@qara_ch Жыл бұрын
This was amazing to watch! Would love to see more nerdy/sciencey food experiments by you for sure :O
@Mtd013
@Mtd013 8 ай бұрын
So cool to see different youtubers collaborating! Nice experiment!
@BrominatedVegetableOil
@BrominatedVegetableOil Жыл бұрын
Follow it up with the bag inside the vacuum chamber. I bet it would hold moisture it does keep more consistently yet (assuming the bag releases enough air not to expand) allow moisture to escape and age further.
@etuanno
@etuanno Жыл бұрын
Depending on how the bag exactly works, more of the smell/taste will also be left in the steak. The smell is mostly from volatile substances, which have all been sucked out by the vacuum. Additionally, the question of pressure of the vacuum chamber is important too. Most likely his pressure wasn't low enough (due to the juice beeing left at the bottom), I'd have wished for a quick explanation of the pressures he had during the experiment.
@SirUmnei
@SirUmnei Жыл бұрын
You should probably re-do this experiment to reaccount for the water that was in the vaccuum. Maybe a different result if all the liquid evaporates first?
@kstricl
@kstricl Жыл бұрын
If did this, once a week pull the excess moisture from the bottom and rotate the steak.
@flummi6966
@flummi6966 Жыл бұрын
maybe line the vacuum chamber with some porous sandstone.
@TheSensei88
@TheSensei88 Жыл бұрын
Hi Nate! Good to see you're still in youtube! I don't know about that refrigerator hole, maybe i'd use salt/sugar to avoid needing the cold so that moisture can be boiled by the vacuum. What made me think: If a "Jamón Serrano" could be made in a vacuum the lack of moisture would actually benefit it a lot. It does not take THAT a long time as dry aging and gives you the opportunity to like idk build some fancy smoker for it afterward or something. Keep it up!
@AgentWest
@AgentWest Жыл бұрын
Interesting that you mentioned pineapple smell. Pineapple juice has enzymes that break down meat, that is why it is sometimes used for aging/marinading. May even be same stuff that is naturally in the meat, hence the smell. As for other video ideas, well, if jerky is all about just getting moisture out of the meat, then how about "making beef jerky with a 20 ton hydraulic press" ? I mean, who _doesn't_ like some over-pressurised meat planks! :D
@saintsabbathi
@saintsabbathi Жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping the spirit of TKOR alive.
@Semicon07
@Semicon07 Жыл бұрын
Great job Nate, glad to see you making your mark.
@elforg
@elforg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. I have been thinking about this since you started making experiments with vacuum on TKOR.
@JT-ir6vw
@JT-ir6vw Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a part 2 w/ it being raised 1-2 inches off the bottom, in an Umai bag while under vacuum. See how it performs. And please buy a pair of grill tongs for flipping the steaks.
@jorickversteeg6378
@jorickversteeg6378 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about this one as well, basicly a normal umai bag dryaging but then in a vacuum. but then i have suggestion: put it under half a vacuum, like 0.5par or 7psi. This way the flavour that is lost in the puddle stays in the beef becuase of the bag, it doesn't get to dry like with the full vacuum from this video and if you rotate it weekly the moisture content will spread more evenly. Maybe even daily in the first week. Or combine dry brine with dryage, the salt might retain the moisture in the vacuum
@squrlboy
@squrlboy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this Nate, I was asking guga to do this in the comments for months lol.
@tonythedonluciano
@tonythedonluciano 8 ай бұрын
Really great collab between some of my favorite tubers! 👌
@aymanabdellatief1572
@aymanabdellatief1572 Жыл бұрын
It’d be interesting to see the effect of excess oxygen on dry aging by dry aging in a hyperbaric chamber.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn Жыл бұрын
I think the oxygen will make it go bad fast, but doing it in a pressure chamber might be interesting.
@Embassy_of_Jupiter
@Embassy_of_Jupiter Жыл бұрын
100 atmospheres of pure oxygen lol
@synthwolfe8906
@synthwolfe8906 Жыл бұрын
oxygen would likely cause the meat to go bad faster. but a nitrogen pressurized chamber might be cool. like a pressure pot equipped to hold nitrogen instead of oxygen. increased pressure without the reactivity of oxygen.
@isaiahcaswell4116
@isaiahcaswell4116 Жыл бұрын
You might be able to control the humidity by changing the temperature in the fridge. Get the right humidity, maybe the dry aging will work better. Also, put a frame under the stake, but you probably already know that.
@chuckhoyle1211
@chuckhoyle1211 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem you will always have in a setup like that is inconsistent moisture content. It may help to suspend the meat above the bottom of the container so it is not marinating in it's juices. Add either some sort of rotisserie setup or just flipping it daily would help too.
@StressfulGengar
@StressfulGengar Жыл бұрын
Nate I'm glad you are still making videos.
@BlooCollaGal
@BlooCollaGal Жыл бұрын
3:30 The thing you're looking for in marbling is low grain size but high grain density. You want flecks of fat all over the place, not big veins of fat running through the meat.
@Marie-ct4td
@Marie-ct4td Жыл бұрын
Thank you for answering a question I've had for years!
@joshs3229
@joshs3229 Жыл бұрын
Would've been nice to see how much moisture was lost in each of the dry aging methods via pre-dry age weight vs after dry aging.
@brian4623
@brian4623 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you on your own channel. I wish you well
@Lumencraft-
@Lumencraft- Жыл бұрын
This was a good idea for a video Nate. I'll bet we see other videos just like it popping up as a new trend.
@bargen0w
@bargen0w Жыл бұрын
amazed TKOR didnt decide to make this video a long time ago with all your other various steak experiments you can calli did on the channel
@gauravlall747
@gauravlall747 Жыл бұрын
Guga's next video: "I dry aged steaks in the vacuum of space"
@synthwolfe8906
@synthwolfe8906 Жыл бұрын
"houston... we have a steak."
@aleisterlavey9716
@aleisterlavey9716 Жыл бұрын
Solarflare seared Steak supreme
@arschery1
@arschery1 Жыл бұрын
Hello, there are two type of vacuum pumps: 1.High vacuum 2. High flow For your experiment you need an automatization to eliminate the excess fluid on the bottom. I suggest a solenoid that decompress each day the chamber for 1 min and opens to drain right before the 4 min working tyme of the pump. Second methode would be to use high flow pump that will keep vacuum at lower value like 70Kpa but will sustain the negative pressure with a constant small air flow. This will accelerate your process as you will lose water trough evaporation and also cancel the fluid build up. Sorry for my English.
@CreateTeen
@CreateTeen Жыл бұрын
Omg I just rediscovered you, and I remember where your from. Glad you have quality interesting content
@TheMichaellathrop
@TheMichaellathrop Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the combination of the Umi bags and the vacuum chamber would do anything.
@nikkiewhite476
@nikkiewhite476 Жыл бұрын
That is a good idea!
@FJB-bl8xg
@FJB-bl8xg Жыл бұрын
No Umi bags work great. He just wrong.
@allthesevens
@allthesevens Жыл бұрын
so it seems like an obvious suggestion but what if you put the steak in the membrane bag and then in the vacuum chamber. might be the best of both?
@kkonvicka25
@kkonvicka25 Жыл бұрын
A splendid dissertation, Nate.
@failorrise7093
@failorrise7093 Жыл бұрын
Truly, great video.
@TheDragonCoach
@TheDragonCoach Жыл бұрын
Guga is crying internally after seeing those Well Done steaks
@aydenkinley1387
@aydenkinley1387 Жыл бұрын
It’s always so weird to watch these videos and think about how this video has been in the making for the past few weeks.
@why6212
@why6212 Жыл бұрын
While you partied, he vacuumed his meat.
@GnarlyPayne
@GnarlyPayne Жыл бұрын
@@why6212 real
@sirspoonkm.
@sirspoonkm. Жыл бұрын
Definitely seems like a lower budget 2018-19 tkor vid, great work. This is the two if content i subbed to tkor for back however long ago
@exoc1
@exoc1 10 ай бұрын
When vacuum pumps are used in food processes they normally use food grade oil in the pumps. Back streaming of oil vapour is a thing and if you left the valve open to your pump when it was shut down, you risk oil running from your pump to the chamber.
@savagesarethebest7251
@savagesarethebest7251 Жыл бұрын
I hope Nate is okay, as botulinum can thrive in a vacuum environment
@andarkelorin8797
@andarkelorin8797 Жыл бұрын
True, but it cannot thrive in a refrigerator or a saline environment, and the toxins produced are destroyed by cooking. I bet he'll be fine.
@JO-ih7uc
@JO-ih7uc Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's one of the reasons he cooked it lmao
@mrhankbotful
@mrhankbotful Жыл бұрын
@@JO-ih7uc if only cooking killed botulism toxin.
@TheHuntermj
@TheHuntermj Жыл бұрын
Boiling for a 10 minutes will kill Botulinum spores but the toxin they produce that actually kills you needs a lot longer and higher temperatures. He obviously has a medium rare steak so it hasn't reached anywhere close to boiling!
@mrhankbotful
@mrhankbotful Жыл бұрын
@@TheHuntermj actually reversed, spores require pressure canning heat levels, while the toxin can be neutralized with a little time at 185°F which is hotter than any good steak gets cooked to.
@boiardi
@boiardi Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I have a couple thoughts about the vacuum chamber dry age. What if you had a rack on the bottom to elevate it and like the umai bag, flip the cut every so often? Maybe every couple days? Yes the vacuum would be broken, but the meat would have more of an even dryness to it. The only thing I would really worry about would be the chance that having to break the seal multiple times and the multiple vacuuming thereafter could make the meat too dry. Or you might achieve the dry aged effect sooner.
@haloavp
@haloavp Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know you had your own personal KZbin channel, but I'm so glad I found it
@Tom-yc8jv
@Tom-yc8jv Жыл бұрын
"Dry Aging" moisture removal happens with the moisture is removed from the meat AND the surrounding area. This did not happen in the vacuum chamber without a desiccant, so it's not dry aging, but instead it was "Wet Aging"
@PJeBenn
@PJeBenn Жыл бұрын
I would like to see what would happen if you put the stake in the vacuum chamber for 20 days and then in the UMAi bags for 20 days. Maybe dump the liquid out of vacume chamber after 10 days. See if you can get the benefits of both methods.
@mberglof
@mberglof Жыл бұрын
Or just put the bag in the chamber, if vacuum is good.. double vacuum must be better :)
@dreamCatV6
@dreamCatV6 Жыл бұрын
i love when something shows up on my timeline and the next thing i know i'm nerding out on vacuum aging meat
@drewrobinson9120
@drewrobinson9120 8 ай бұрын
A large part of dry aging, is in fact the controlled humidity and air around the meat. The humidity and air allow for chemical and microbial processes to occur that change the texture and flavor of the meat. I bet that the "tenderness" in the vacuum aged meat came from the vacuum opening the space between meat fibers, effectively allowing the enzymes easier access to more of the meat fibers or a more uniform access then normal dry aging.
@aznmutt15
@aznmutt15 Жыл бұрын
Lighting will effect color of the steak. A bright white light can mute red color. Also the dry age steak will have a different color. Dry aging does three things. 1. Drying which will concentrate the beef, and making the meat denser. 2. Texture break down. Enzymes and bacteria will tenderize it. Making it break apart more. 3. Aromatics. The bacterial breakdown will cause an aroma bringing forth an umami flavor. Notes of mushrooms and aged cheese tends to be present.
@rowanalbright7711
@rowanalbright7711 10 ай бұрын
Great video!
@buckwheat6722
@buckwheat6722 11 ай бұрын
Thank You! Very Interesting
@justyn5086
@justyn5086 Жыл бұрын
This video is the kind content that your fans want. We also enjoy videos with Callie :)
@robylove9190
@robylove9190 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, Nate.
@kstricl
@kstricl Жыл бұрын
Vacuum chamber marinated steak vs regular marinated. Give the regular 24hours in the fridge, do 8 hours of repeat vacuum cycles (1 per hour of restore pressure then pull vacuum again) on the other. On the vacuum cycle one, pull some cycled samples from the chamber to finish their 24 hours in the fridge and have some continue the last 16 hrs under vacuum in marinade. Edit: also pull and test some of the control and vacuum cycled steak at the 8 hour mark.
@uncivilized_caveman
@uncivilized_caveman Жыл бұрын
As a kid me and my sisters used to joke that Nate was the “Prince of Random” when he first started hosting videos. I guess this is the full circle of that joke. He really is the true King of Random now
@perecernunos5924
@perecernunos5924 2 ай бұрын
as I know Umai bags let oxygen and moisture pass through it. In the vacuum chamber, you create an anaerobic environment. With steak moisture and absence of oxygen, it's perfect for the developement of Clostridium botulinum. Well.. at 35F for 40 days, it's not that bad but it's not 0 risk at all. Don't try this at home guys.
@tristanwegner
@tristanwegner Жыл бұрын
After pulling the initial vacuum, most of the gases building inside should be water vapour. Thus be regulating the pressure inside the vessel, you can regulate the partial pressure of water vapor and can tune the drying process.
@trigerdatnigga
@trigerdatnigga Жыл бұрын
Great video I just kind of want to see you try it again with a better vacuum or a way to get rid of the extra liquid inside
@bambamfreddyable
@bambamfreddyable 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for keeping the original King of Random vibe alive! You're the man!
@FSEAirboss
@FSEAirboss Жыл бұрын
Here's one for you. Another internet opinion, who'd have thunk! Use the umani bag in the vacuum chamber. Size cuts to lay flat, flip once. Can stack, but leave air gap and lift bottom one up and put absorbent pad. Perhaps something as well to keep the upper ones from dripping on the lower ones. I'd also try shorter times, as reducing the time would as well make it more appealing to use. I would think planning 5/10/15 days versus 35 would make a huge difference for those of us that would like to plan something special in a shorter time span.
@joshuakarr-BibleMan
@joshuakarr-BibleMan Жыл бұрын
Man, you had me for over eleven minutes. When you did that second flip, I began to question. At "medium well," you lost me for sure.
@NFTI
@NFTI Жыл бұрын
Single flips for steak is a myth, you want to flip often.
@sithlordbilly4206
@sithlordbilly4206 10 ай бұрын
WOW, Nate amazing dude! 😮
@DudeSoWin
@DudeSoWin Жыл бұрын
"Moral of story: Gotta go fast!" *yeets the steak*
@Skunkstew
@Skunkstew Жыл бұрын
Glad you are back doing videos, I think I speak for many people when I say keep it up we missed you man
@johnekare8376
@johnekare8376 8 ай бұрын
Great experiment! I'm glad it all went well. I would have been a little concerned about clostridium botulinum growing in the vacuum, since it grows fine in an anaerobic environment. But maybe that's no different to the Umai-bags that are designed to let moisture out but also to keep air out as well. So, I'm not sure how they compare in that regard - just my initial thought.
@johnmurner2418
@johnmurner2418 4 ай бұрын
Luckily he cooked it medium well 😅😅😅
@namirahdotpdf
@namirahdotpdf Жыл бұрын
heuy nate, i find you from safety third podcast... great video structure.. just a tad but dark with the lights. looking forward on your next fun thing😊
@martinkasse1932
@martinkasse1932 Жыл бұрын
The view of you washing the bags with the stake in it with a sponge and dishsoap killed me... I just would've spraye it with isopropanol, destroys all the germs and evaporates without a trace afterwards!
@russellzauner
@russellzauner Жыл бұрын
The vacuum bag for dry aging presses the fibers together, and much like a wadded up towel won't dry out real well, well... Next time we put a vapor trap on the vacuum chamber so the liquid is captured when it is pulled out instead of the meat sitting in it. I noticed that with both the bag and chamber the pellicle loss is much much smaller and mold almost nonexistent than naturally open air aged meat.
@ins344
@ins344 10 ай бұрын
I think that "dry age smell & flavour" you noticed was the bacterial action on the beef. Good beef just needs to change texture, not taste imo, so the vacuum method was a success. 👏
@RipplesLab.
@RipplesLab. Жыл бұрын
tbh this better than the TKOR chanle i used to love TKOR now it has become a vlog chanle thanks for giveing us the joy of The King of random style vids keep going brotha
@TheGamingGuyYT
@TheGamingGuyYT Жыл бұрын
The bottom part that was sitting in the juices is probably closer to a wet aged product which is basically like dry aging except the water stays it's also the preferred method of aging for companys
@swampcooler8332
@swampcooler8332 Жыл бұрын
I think it tenderized in the vacuum because of the violent extraction of water under vacuum, similar to the ultrasonic cleaners cavitations. The water was yanked out vs the regular dry age which let it slowly drip dry
@KillianTwew
@KillianTwew Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "Frost Burn" is actually just natural Freeze Drying. What happens is if you don't seal something in a vacuum, the ice will sublimate out of the meat into any open space and then recondense on the surface of the meat, effectively drying it out the exact same way a freeze dryer would (except the vacuum pump would evacuate the water instead of it recondensing on the meat) You did basically the same thing in this video. Just higher Temps and less vacuum
@dholaholics
@dholaholics Жыл бұрын
Sick editing skills 🔥💯
@leefisher6366
@leefisher6366 Жыл бұрын
1:23 - Ooh! My bags got a mention!
@chepex21
@chepex21 Жыл бұрын
People should always use pink salt (sodium nitrite) to prevent botulism because it is produced by an anaerobic bacteria that could develop in this method.
@the_nap_king
@the_nap_king Жыл бұрын
"I drilled a hole into the side of my fridge..." Me: "Oh my God, please no."
@tropicalbartender6510
@tropicalbartender6510 Жыл бұрын
The lower part wet aged. To reproduce that on a easier level. All you need to do is vacuum the meat and leave if in the fridge, no special bags needed just vacuum bags so the moisture does not leave and let the fermentation do its thing(probably why it smelled fermented, because it did). good part: gets very soft, bad part: can smell a bit funky and taste like metal. So you need to play around with it for a bit.
@guillaumeproux7877
@guillaumeproux7877 Жыл бұрын
It was funny to see you say "I'm going to keep it real simple, with a fair amount of salt...". MiniGuga!
@joshuajackson6442
@joshuajackson6442 Жыл бұрын
Great job
@muratkabilov
@muratkabilov Жыл бұрын
that is so cool you've started your own channel
@everetthancock2043
@everetthancock2043 Жыл бұрын
Lol! I laughed about the 'black gloves' They're heat resistant, so that's why they're popular w/ cooking meat. No worries, blue looks great on you :)
@calevan
@calevan Жыл бұрын
Not an expert, but as far as the tenderness explained - because of the lack of oxygen in the vacuum, it allowed the steak to degrade differently that the dry age one in the Umai bag, which explains the tenderized texture. It looks like it was kept at a pressure of 0.8-0.9 bar? You could try to increase the pressure to try and differentiate the tenderness of steaks at different pressures (e.g. 1 bar, 2.5 bar, and 5 bar). Also, you could note any physical changes right after the vacuum release (i.e., marshmallows before and after vacuum pressure).
@Holpip_
@Holpip_ Жыл бұрын
multiple birds with one stone; a video, results for an experiment, and dinner for the next week or so. efficient.
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