NHL 15: GM Mode Commentary - Arizona ep. 5 "Trades"

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[@utubeseiz]

The waivers thing happens when you trade an NHL player on your team for an AHL player or draft pick on theirs (or the balance of NHL and AHL players is off). This happens because the AI teams usually have full rosters, so to receive an additional 1 way contract they would need someone to go through waivers. The teams that can trade either do not have full 1 way rosters or have an empty roster spot. The teams will also be willing to put a player through waivers if you account for something around 50% of the players value in the trade or if the trade is for big name players (a team would still take Crosby even if they had to put someone through waivers for him and the value was even).

[@utubeseiz]

One way you can guess which teams you can trade with is look at their rosters and see if there are any players on the bottom 2 lines that would probably have a 2 way contract. If they do, then they should trade with you. Additionally, they usually wont drop a top 2 line player (forward or defender) to the AHL even if they do have a two way deal.

[@utubeseiz]

and don't turn waivers off because of this, I think it makes it more realistic (think of how rarely teams place useful players on waivers in the real NHL) and adds a new level of difficulty to the trades.

[@utubeseiz]

Also I kind of hope you don't get McDavid just because everyone is counting on it.

[@GlassTcat]

Noah Seiz OVERRATED!

[@XxThEDarKSydExX]

Also, trade away Mike Smith. He could end up somewhat salvaging the season because he's 89 ovr, which we don't want because it would be great to get the 1st overall pick for McDavid.

[@utubeseiz]

problem is that NO nhl team would trade an elite goalie with some years left in him even for a McDavid. Good Goalies are very hard to come by.

[@XxThEDarKSydExX]

New game, never know what some goalie prospects can turn into...

[@utubeseiz]

Its true, but you've got at least 4 years off very high quality goalie in Mike Smith and then he'll still have decent trade value at the end of that, even if it isn't as high as it is now.

[@Shotyonly]

Also the goalie market in the real nhl is pretty dry right now you can get a starting goalie for a second and maybe 2 prospects. Centre ice men that are first liners rarely get traded young.

[@roguefactor2646]

I'm honestly not really sure what he should do with the remaining players, but holy shit there where a few trades he tried to make where he was only offering like half the value of what he was receiving

[@ZekromReshiram1]

John is uploading consistently, keep up the great work man

[@sidcrosby8798]

The waiver message isn't new, it was in 14, but it didn't occur as much as it does in 15

[@paulathekoala1699]

And Johnny didn't play with waivers on

[@ItsMeDWC]

He also played with waivers off ... Sooo yeah.

[@tannerolsen3334]

He never put waivers on in 14'

[@GlassTcat]

Can't you just make sure you trade the same amount of NHL roster players in the deal.. I think the problem was in each of the trades he had at least one more NHL player on his team going over

[@hockeystar2598]

Johnny I think what it means when they say they would have to put a player on waivers it means you're giving them and extra roster player so they would have to send one down through waivers.

[@37willdog]

That waiver pop-up when trading is not new. It's pretty obvious you've never played with waivers on before

[@privateaccount4460]

Why you haven't seen waiver declines: Haven't played with waivers recently...,

[@The19thStudio]

1 year later & Korp actually plays for Edmonton lmao

[@lilsquidlyn3619]

I was going to say that lol

[@Snifffman]

I had a 2,5 green star player turn out to be 82 overall

[@ccramit]

The guys you are trying to give away have higher overalls than some guys on their NHL roster so they would have to send someone down, either their own guy or the guy you are trading, risking losing them to waivers. The only way for it to work is for you to trade your guys that have two way contracts or trade for a guy that is on their NHL team, that way you avoid them having to and someone down to the AHL.

[@swagsquad7187]

The Canucks r always in denial with how good they are in this game

[@the_guy_nextd00r76]

You should get brenden gaunce from the Vancouver Canucks. They want to give him away and i have seen him turn into an 87 overall. Also just turn waivers off it would make it more enjoyable for everyone.

[@Witchkingrider]

i agree on the waivers being off but brenden guance might not turn out to be good in his gm mode run since it is like a dice roll

[@the_guy_nextd00r76]

Witchkingrider really because i have played 3 nhl 15 10 year gm modes and he turned out to be an 87 in all of them

[@Witchkingrider]

then you are a lot luckier than am, anything can happen with an overall but consecutive numbers are impressive, however he could still be a lower overall in any gm mode run, it happens

[@GlassTcat]

the_guy_nextd00r you've played 3 10 yr gm modes on day 3 of this game being out...

[@the_guy_nextd00r76]

GlassTcat yeah lol

[@THEYOFACE123]

trade everybody for Toews.

[@zhacce4920]

Not enough trade value tho..

[@soundescapemn]

If by 'Toews' you mean 'John Scott'. What is a Toews?

[@andrewcochrane2798]

morrisaurus17 No, Scott's trade value is too high. He needs to go for the Hawk's 7th round pick.

[@de132]

morrisaurus17 Hey, San Jose will never give up such a great player like John Scott. Gr8est hockey players ever: 1. John Scott 2. Matt Cooke 3. Matthew Barnaby 4. Petr Nedved 5. Alexandre Daigle

[@soundescapemn]

***** That list made me laugh a little harder than I should have

[@Retryskyy]

Take wavers off that makes it so much better.

[@SerFrogbert]

+TheMagicMan how about that datsyuk?

[@jacobdeboer8367]

Perfect for just coming home from school. Thanks Johnny!

[@dkarp07]

These episodes are awesome, I get to learn a lot about each team. Please do make more just trade videos.

[@Gongshow96]

Michael Bunting went to elementary school with me and I grew up with him haha. guy was playing AA and 2 years later he's in the NHL. Crazy how things can change!

[@hockeycool321]

Now he’s a leafs legend

[@killertim101]

johnny, try and grab all 3 Reinhart brothers, that would be pretty awesome.

[@L3TzZallTbAG]

It was there last year too u just put waivers off so it didnt show up

[@AngelicaCarlssons]

You could probably get Elias Lindholm and Carolinas 1st round pick for Mike Smith.

[@El_Travo]

Johnny, here's an explanation on the Cullen deal. Nashville had the maximum amount of forwards with one-way contracts on their main roster. So by trading them another player with a one-way contract, they'd have to send one of their guys through waivers.

[@intensemajick1597]

In the upcoming draft you should definitely trade some of your first and second rounders for high draft picks to get McDavid, Eichel, etc. to build a core and you can fill the supporting cast through free agency or a few trades. Plus I feel you should trade Mike Smith soon for a goalie or again maybe draft picks but hey, I'm not the one running the series. Do what you feel you have to.

[@SaintWarrior94]

Coming back 8 years later and watching him trade Bunting hahah

[@themarksman1313]

The placing someone on waivers thing is because they'll be over the player limit or salary cap and they'll have place a player on waivers to get cap compliant.

[@sportsmantrevor]

At the beginning who else imagined Johnny taking his sweater off , and then you were like "Oh wait I still don't know what he looks like."

[@Masterown35]

I like the way they made those trades work now. It's actually a bit more realistic with the waivers thing, and the fact that those late picks actually seem to be worth something now is awesome.

[@reverseaxis]

Smith and a second for MacKinnon

[@TG-dz9pd]

That trade for Watson and Salomaki would've benefited you in so many ways both players are great. Watson and Salomaki are great on both the PK and on the PP. Both players have it in them for multiple 20+ goal seasons.

[@TSGCards]

the waivers thing with MATT CULLEN is that you were trading them a roster player where they would have to send someone down and they dont have anyone up who is a 2way who doesnt have to clear waivers.

[@TheLoadedOne]

This was in NHL 14 too. As much as John plays GM mode I find it hard to believe he's never seen this.

[@felixeur1276]

TheLoadedOne he plays with waivers off cuz he is too incompetent to understand waivers

[@voodoodugas]

The thing about having to send Matt Cullen down is that you are sending them an NHL player and taking a non NHL player from them therefore having too many NHL players so they would have to send them on waivers, it was there in NHL14 btw.

[@iSyncKnifess]

i swear to god sean day goes to my school in michigan! he's soo good at hockey!

[@CanadianGuinea16]

With the vancouver Canucks when it said Markstrom would go to waivers, it was because you were sending Dubnyk to them when they already had Miller, Lack and Markstrom!

[@ThaAngelus1]

I like that new feature. If a team has three goalies over 80 ovr, you can't trade them another NHL-goalie simply because they would be forced to put a "too good" one on waivers. Kinda makes the trading more realistic that you just can't throw spare parts at another team if it's player they dont need at all.

[@chrisormie]

The message relates to the fact that they have a full roster in the positions you are trying to send them players (ie Dubnyk forcing Markstrom to waivers). They already have 3 goalies on the roster they would need to clear waivers, you sending them a fourth means they'll lose one for free (in most cases). Try changing the players you are sending them or at least trade like for like in terms of roster spots, then that message will not show up as often (or hopefully at all!).

[@matic_39]

Johhny you should start streaming ;) gta and nhl for example

[@tysonsmith8200]

The waivers trading thing was in NHL 14

[@benmarshall5132]

wtf Vancouver, is Gillis still in charge? Lol

[@hockeyplayer10able]

You NEEEEED first overall next year.Sean Day is 18 years 53 overall (I know its low) and hes FIVE STARS!!!!

[@typro769]

Not every time!

[@hockeyplayer10able]

Shouldn't he at least try? Because if he isn't 5 he'll be at least 4 1/2. I'd rather take my chances on a 5 then a guaranteed 4 1/2

[@a25Productions]

Tarek Itani he's a 4 star in my gm mode

[@ALEX-fn7pi]

Connor McDavid................

[@hockeyplayer10able]

Alex Capone This is year TWO draft....get both possibly

[@SuBZeR0TeMP]

1. Tank for McDavid this year 2. Use two or three of your four 2nd round picks as well as Doan to get another high first round pick 3. Trade Mike Smith (and picks/players if necessary) at the draft for the 2nd overall pick 4. Use the first two picks to draft McDavid and Eichel, setting up a sweet Domi, Perlini, McDavid and Eichel forward core for the next 10+ years 5. Use your other first round pick to draft a stud defenseman to play with OEL, Gormley and Schlemko

[@MonsterMuttsdoghouse]

Target McDavid, Barzal, Konecny first round. 2nd round get Sprong (4 1/2 stars)

[@miltonwillford1997]

I saw that waiver thing in NHL 14 aswell.

[@johnwinchester7850]

on ps4 the computer drafted austin lotz, a goalie and he was 85 overall with franchise potential

[@ThePenguinsfan2987]

Johnny, if you get to the draft and don't have the first overall try trading you pick + something like Hanzel or a 2nd/ 3rd depending on the difference in value.

[@randomhumor1]

I signed Sangeunetti (I can't spell his name right now lol) in my Quebec City Nordiques GM mode and he jumped from a 77 to a 83 in a year, not bad.

[@koryfenton2081]

If you add a draft pick that has significant value the trades will go through every time even if the waivers are stopping prior trades

[@fr0zt1337]

First time you've got waivers on in your gm!

[@owenhunter9169]

The waver notice was in NHL 14 but you played with waivers off and all you had to do was add another roster forward on there side to even out David moss

[@paulsunseri9468]

Here's how I'm interpreting the Cullen thing: They would have too many players on the roster and would have to move Cullen down. You'd need the same number of 1-way contracts being exchanged, or taking on more 1-way contracts than them in the trade so they wouldn't be forced to move someone (Cullen in this case) down and subject him to waivers.

[@mihmom]

The waiver thing means that should the trade go through the team would have too many players with 1-way contracts. The player stated would be put on waivers and some other team would claim him. So if the message pops up, you should get one roster player from the other team.

[@longliverocknroll5]

At least they fixed one game breaking AI glitch. In 2014 I got three first rounders because teams kept having to put Mike Fisher on waivers and nobody had the space to claim him lol. And this was with waivers and cap on.

[@MrTAKLAAJA]

Waivers has been in gm modes about few years but always in your gm modes you turn them off

[@f337]

The reason you couldn't do the Vancouver trade with the goal tender was because they need to have 2 AHL goalies listed. You were taking an AHL goalie which then would need Markstrom to replace him through waivers.

[@Mcadets]

Johnny, I need to know your thoughts on the rule changes for the upcoming season.

[@salmaankhan1807]

There was a small glitch in the game, some 29 year old was mixed in with the 28 year olds when he sorted by age. Not big but still a general detail which should be covered.

[@abchastek]

After 3 years in my gm mode there was a yellow 5 star goalie that was 86 at 19

[@holdencaulfieldkackel]

pretty sure your problem with the cullen deal in nashville was the volume of forwards

[@kmt78901]

The thing with the waivers is that you're giving them roster players but you aren't taking any roster players which forces them to put players on waivers.

[@Holtzy30PVP]

I picked a goalie in the 3rd round who was 4.5 star and 71 overall at 19 years old

[@GlassTcat]

what yo point...

[@aarong4493]

during the draft trade your first, a second and two thirds for the first overall pick

[@WorshipInglip20]

johnny are you gonna play minecraft xbox one edition with the goofs ? i really miss that series

[@Jurvay]

Same thing with Vancouver, you tried to give them Dubnyk so they would have had too many goalies.

[@baileypalyvos115]

the feature with matt cullen was in nhl 14

[@sportstelevison7024]

The waivers thing has been there since NHL 11. You just never turn on waivers.

[@Mclougle29]

That matt cullen thing isn't new, it because they would have to send him down to the minor and they don't want him to have to clear waivers

[@FrostyEagle]

that thing of being on waivers was on nhl 14 johnny, the difference is that you had waivers off

[@NoisyCartoon]

if you're trading away a defensemen for example you have to get a defensemen from their NHL roster back because they'll have 8 or 9 on their roster and they dont want that many

[@timometsanoja9666]

It is the whole one way/two way contract thing. Basically the teams have too many players on the one way contracts and thus would have to put someone to the waiver list. That is the reason. This is basically blocking just trading 3-4 guys for a single guy... And that is a good thing. I wouldn't want to see trades that basically get you the best players and have the other team putting players on the waiver list, basically making the trade very unbalanced.

[@scoldingwhisper]

my gm mode there were 5 5 star players in the 2015 draft. i got a 5 star goalie at 6th overall

[@joshuakwon8496]

It says they have to put Jacob Markstrom on waivers but it says he has a two way contract at 19:39

[@petterihuovinen4926]

2way contracts sometimes has to clear waivers.

[@konrad6047]

Try turning the waivers off and it should not be a problem

[@ccramit]

The reason you couldn't trade was because the guy you were trading to the other team would have forced them to kick Cullen down to the AHL and they didn't want to risk losing him to waivers because he might have only had a One Way contract.

[@10IanAnthony]

The waivers message pops up because if the trade went through they'd have too many players on the roster and would be forced to demote someone to the AHL

[@Looch1717]

The waiver thing is not new. It was in NHL 14 aswell.

[@Jurvay]

Hey I saw that Dauphin was in your system but unsigned. Should probably sign him while he's still young.

[@Jurvay]

The trade with Nashville didn't go through because in every instance you tried, they would be receiving more players than they would be giving to you. They must already have a full roster and would have to send Matt Cullen down to the AHL, and since he has a 1-way contract he would be put through waivers.

[@inky98]

how come your GM mode and NHL 15 in general, looks so much different than other youtubers? i have not purchased the game yet so I do not know exactly what the game looks like.

[@benjamin29471]

It's a cap hit thing, regarding the rejected trade things. A lot of times you're asking them to take on 5+ million dollars for draft picks, which are of no value for them.

[@FallenIconStudios]

it worked the same way in NHL 14. its because you keep giving roster players. If you put the guys your tradfing in the minors first it'll work

[@Fetakettu]

Get that salomaki from predators . he is going to be good !

[@joshf253]

In next gen NHL 15 I'm with the Leafs and I got Patrick Kane for JVR and a second round pick!!! :O

[@FuckitnFightit]

You probably have to give them a young 2 way player that doesnt have to clear wavers so they can keep their guy from having to be sent down and clear wavers. If that makes any sense. Idk

[@nozplayzgamez878]

Take waivers off for that trade then when the trade is done put waivers back on if you really want waivers on

[@GlassTcat]

Someone should try and explain why that waiver message is coming up!

[@mikeseidof6894]

Trade your late round picks (4-5) to generate picks for next year.

[@tememotti]

Thats happening because the teams have too many players in their top team roster so they have to move some players down to ahl. And they have to go through waiwers. U can only have 23 skaters and three goalies in your roster if im correct. And injured guys doesnt count. I dont remember specificly how it goes in real life on nhl but thats how it goes on the game

[@kurtissmith3924]

It wouldnt let you trade because they had too many in one postion so all you have to do is bring the same postion back as you were trading.

[@armanvirk4881]

Johnny are you going to make Live The Life for Xbox 360

[@eliaskosunen6958]

Smith and Ohlund(?) for high pick and a high potential young goalie?

[@AngelicaCarlssons]

Get Filip Forsberg or Elias Lindholm!

[@dbface1]

Trade for a decent first round pick. It helps even so for the trade deadline where if u need to move up in the draft you have an extra 1st round pick.

[@MxTribe]

why dont you live steam gm mode?

[@NYIsles55]

They've had that thing with them declining because they had to put someone on waivers in NHL 14. If it's a roster player, than you have to get the lowest rated NHL roster player back, it doesn't have to be the player they want to put on waivers. You just had waivers on last year so it hid the problem.

[@Chernostenmark]

Doan, Michalek, and Moss for another 1st round pick, then package one of the 1st rounders with another 2nd and 3rd for the first overall (use this to draft McDavid).

[@mattduncan7290]

Go for Anthony Mantha. He's a RW (Like you wanted) and he'll be a top player for the first line, for sure. Pick him up before his trade value sky rockets.

[@Elektronica11]

I once did a GM mode with Edmonton, with a stacked first line (the hall nuge eberle) 70-ish overall second line plus a yakupov, all 60 overall prospects on third and fourth line, absolutely no defense and goalie, went to conference finals, dafuq?

[@1990mcalex]

I moved up in the draft to get Connor McDavid and it cost me two 1st round picks and one 2nd round pick

[@loishiggins8738]

Mike smith for the fist ovr pick

[@jamesk1732]

that trade message isn't new.. it's when a team is getting more than 23 players that are currently playing in the nhl. they have to send down the least overall player to the AHL and through wavers. teams just don't want to give away their players.

[@xSweeeD]

Mike Smith for 1st, his value may drop so trade him while he's high in TW