How they STOPPED my Max-Upgraded Fliegerfaust - Battlefield 5 Pacific

[@jordandomingue9310]

Patch Notes: Fixed an issue where one Japanese soilder is able to completely demolish U.S. Marine air capability.

[@schretlenaugustijn2391]

When you are the 69th liker Nice

[@jordyvanimmerseel2857]

😂😂😂😂

[@TheCHEOCUPEY]

Patch notes: Fligerfaust removed One can only dream.

[@bliksem0325]

Jordan Domingue I am so happy now, because it was dirty

[@schretlenaugustijn2391]

@Leyn man dude you just killed my vibe, that swiqatiwaqe yo

[@duttythedude7562]

This is like telling a bunch of teenagers how to do drugs, where to get them, and how much fun they are, and then telling them not to do drugs...

[@Guhonter]

As if "I'm doing it for a vid" makes it okay and cool to be a tool... You're a douche, Niccaman.

[@TealJosh]

@@Guhonter this is super easy to counter, it's acually better that this is widely known so people can solve the problem when someone decides to troll.

[@MrDeathenergy]

@xXlegit_ opsXx Did you not read what he just said? He already told you "how".

[@OpRaven-62]

DuttyTheDude, lmao

[@adamk8376]

@Colin Williamson beat me to it

[@fin5494]

3:49 can we just appreciate how cool and cinematic it looks when that plane crashes

[@alejandrojimenez4277]

It's way better than the BF1 plane destruction animation. I saw bomber planes doing a bunch of loopty loops after bing destroyed. They looked like kites lol

[@insertunfunnyjoke3729]

@@alejandrojimenez4277 when you think about it they were practically kites

[@Purp1ehaz3]

insertunfunny joke Kites with machine guns

[@02baby_]

0:36

[@goofyman955]

Ikr i was thinking that

[@user-ps5qm1fl6s]

1:27 This man right here, he deserves a badge for clutchness and honor.

[@Keatoil]

Lmaoo

[@W1HURI]

He used more energy on that moment than i use in whole match

[@amulyasharma4860]

@@W1HURI what's that soundtrack name btw

[@AmarettoTheFurry]

@@amulyasharma4860 Phoenix Rising by Edgar Hopp

[@funni_noises]

Imagine you and 4 of your friends all did this together the enemy would never be able to stop you

[@warrensean8131]

that would be sick but imagine having friends!

[@grzmotmine]

I did that & it was fun af no planes managed to get out of the carrier.

[@potsandpansimcold]

imagine typing to the entire team to get them to do it as well lmao

[@theeyeofra7368]

Sounds fun haha

[@peytonperdue9185]

It’s cowardly

[@ethanblevins1116]

“No no no I want revenge” You can legally continue spawnkilling planes now

[@amychan811]

Talk about fligelfaust

[@DylanBegazo]

Yes.

[@djnorth2020]

What a hero that medic! Threw his body over yours to cover a wounded soldier. :D

[@abdulhamid2369]

Yes. Heroic scene in bfv

[@bloodlove93]

@@abdulhamid2369 ah yes let me count.... Thats... OK and the next and that one too.... OK yeah... First time ever.

[@StealthSwith19136]

And the cool thing is, he wasnt even a medic! Such a brave soul exposing himself for you!

[@HappyFlapps]

@@StealthSwith19136 He exposed himself alright. Friggin' necropheliac.

[@lovesuka114]

That ain’t a medic chief, he was an assault

[@arrowshot3000]

"nicca why?" "ok ok i stop lol" "NO I WANT REVENGE" "ok i stay" LMAO

[@Am4ndeepSingh]

69% Health xD

[@chris-o2v9c]

😂😂

[@Сүбэдэйжанжин]

"NO I WANT REVENGE " "Pls" "ok i stay"

[@haiderangry1721]

7:24 you can feel the pain

[@randorookie8587]

As a medic main in this game I’m proud of that guy from the start who tried to revive was cheering for him actually

[@yacobz]

The "not on my watch" had me dead 😂

[@taneli5026]

"max-upgraded fliegerfaust" But... It's a gadget.

[@Mysohvaperuna]

Tanelixd 1 jokes jokes

[@ArchaicStigma]

I am glad I'm not the only one who was like what?

[@fpslifelegacy6902]

Well... You got a point...

[@brotherscro]

I got baited so hard I went to the game to check if im tripping lol

[@taneli5026]

@Ganja merchant or just small clickbait

[@NGC-7635]

3:20 dude, I played a game where an entire enemy squad was on that boat with a tank, and then stole one our tanks as well and they just kept spawn killing people to the point where half our team was launching an assault on them instead of actual going to the island.

[@majorblow01]

NGC 7635 honestly that would make it pretty fun tho and make the game unique

[@NGC-7635]

It was not fun. It was REALLY annoying lol

[@majorblow01]

NGC 7635 I’m sure it was but it’s gotta be kinda fun right😂?

[@ArtflPhenix]

I was wondering if i was part of that squad. as far as I remember, I was wondering why most of my squadmates are near enemy base, so i spawn there and there was addtional 1 or 2 squads with us. It was the most mixed infantry with medic, recon, support & assault(both with anti tank & anti air gadgets). the enemies try to attack us with tanks & boats but with anti tanks & mines it was impossible to get near. the 2nd tank came, but the driver was stupid enough to jump out before it was destroyed so we were able to fixed it and take it.

[@NGC-7635]

ArtflPhenix yes that’s exactly what happened lol. Maybe you were in that game.

[@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82]

You make the most mundane gameplay exceptionally entertaining.

[@brandenjones7823]

Yup wasted money on it because of this dude.

[@mockingbird5832]

Everything is fair in War and in BF. 7:25 that scream of agony and pain and Failing.

[@GamerzFanz1]

one japanese man with a bottle rocket vs the entire american naval air force

[@jasperjenks8118]

*shoots at JB-2 once* nope can’t do it it’s impossible sorry guys

[@marsvoltron]

I've tried to shoot it down from the air with planes with no success. Seems like it can't take damage.

[@marsvoltron]

Even tried tipping it with the wings on my plane like pilots in WW2 would do, nothing just damages your plane.

[@jasperjenks8118]

Marciano Garza I feel like if dice changed the game mechanics and flight models, and made the planes faster they could implement that as a feature. Rn it’s too easy for planes to strafe targets, and if rockets could take damage they’d be sitting ducks. I feel like realism things like that are some of the things that dice can pay attention to and consider

[@أحمدالعمار-ن1ط]

The only way to take out a V1 is to hit with a plane while it's falling

[@ClingyCrab]

@Marciano Garza Not really idiotic, the planes they did that with were built to tip v-1’s

[@Ochi3003]

“I fear no man” “But that ... thing” *Fligherfoust* “It scares me” I’m so happy niccaman liked this thanks

[@JustJohn505]

I cant believe overused comments keep getting likes...

[@kalashnikov6222]

Your spelling of Fliegerfaust scares me

[@bremo2059]

@@JustJohn505 yep i feel you... same as those ''like if'' comments that get THOUSANDS of likes... makes no fcking sense to me.

[@stevejones1503]

tf2 meet the pyro lol

[@Ep1cSh0tz1]

@@brokkoli4794 but is ugly and has too many words for stuff...

[@uiio2391]

1:25 this man is giving it all he got

[@codmw2man1]

Lmao

[@axelmanning5055]

thought he was Hitler when i first saw him.

[@matheussullivan8772]

@@axelmanning5055 me too lmao

[@ambulance8657]

Whats the music

[@ambulance8657]

Name?

[@dinomantherifleman7616]

1:02 this is the reason I get my boats 10 feet on land

[@raulcalimann7738]

😂😂😂

[@guybob548]

0:07 What Hitler imagined when he was pitched the Fliegerfaust.

[@imanidiot7709]

ah yes shooting at a japanese plane

[@guybob548]

@@imanidiot7709 I was thinking more like it actually working against planes, being the super weapon of his drug induced dreams, but he probably did throw in a Japanese plane gundown in his daydream.

[@loveaddicted717]

@@imanidiot7709 japanese was with same axis armies same as germany

[@joefuller1207]

@@loveaddicted717 It was nothing but a deal of convenience, Hitler would’ve turned on the Japanese, the Italians and his other allies if he won.

[@ariald869]

@@joefuller1207 source: some gay alt history scenario loser lmao

[@Torsk1007]

0:08 Niccaman you became the very thing you swore to destroy

[@brattlready2314]

Niccaman: casually plays game in a fighter Also Niccaman: “NOW I WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO SPAWN KILL THE ENEMY TEAM’S CARRIER AND SECURE AIR SUPERIORITY FOR YOUR TEAM!”

[@andreasantoniades8162]

1:25 When you have a teammate that actually cares about you!

[@easthulk99]

" NOT ON MY WATCH!!! "

[@anthonyc4138]

@@easthulk99 lol

[@koisj8310]

Me playing medic in every battlefield game like

[@ytn675]

I always do that and get killed like him

[@ytn675]

@@koisj8310 same

[@MohammedKhan-bt7el]

Me when watching Niccaman spawnkill: Now this is entertainment Me when getting spawn killed in bfv: *angry pilot noises*

[@Kungfuheros]

1:35 "I got you homie!!"

[@taxiuniversum]

This video is just STUFFED with so much hilarious stuff: The guy who dived after saving you. Then the quaint music riding the boat. 😄 Then the guy who hate-kamikazed you (after which he probably ragequit and deleted the game). 😆🤣😆

[@antihypocrite510]

taxiuniversum seeing others people suffer is so funny ...

[@TheOttomemeEmpire]

Hate-kamikazed? Where's the kamikaze?

[@realname5332]

Anti Hypocrite Well not always. But in this case, yes it is *very* funny.

[@GODS_21]

Dude the diving medic..... epic... I laughed my a** off with the cinematics

[@Gerdalagerwei]

Whats the music in the boat

[@Sulu-s_Apocalypse]

nicc, you've started terrible thing just yesterday I had 7 matches on that map with full enemy or friendly squad squad sitting there and blowing up the enemy planes on spawn

[@DylanBegazo]

Realistically tho, war isn’t about “playing fair”. Fairness only exists in videogames because they are designed for “entertainment” whereas war in real life is all about winning. So when I see “fairness” applied with game patches and nerfing... doesn’t exactly rub me the right way. In real life, war is about getting as many advantages as you can to win and eliminating the enemy without giving them any chance to come back to haunt you. Which is why this video is extra funny for me because he has all the advantage and he’s using it. He’s racking up kills and maintaining his advantage with the supply crate and med crate. He’s winning and not giving the enemy any chance to come back to haunt him by killing them and stopping their planes ASAP. That’s called realistic. Realistic Warfare. Not entertainment. Obviously war is bad and I’m not condoning a 3rd world war, all I’m saying is nerfing/balancing robs from realism in regards to the subject of war. That’s all.

[@Sulu-s_Apocalypse]

@@DylanBegazo so the best video games are the masochistic ones that let u know u waste Ur time playing them and u should go back to work?

[@DylanBegazo]

@@Sulu-s_Apocalypse I didn’t say all that. I clearly and plainly summarized everything in my original message. I can’t summarize any further.

[@lHawkel]

@@DylanBegazo Realistically tho, that's a game for entertainment, and not actual war...

[@DylanBegazo]

@@lHawkel You’re right. I know it’s for entertainment.

[@tsuaririndoku]

“the enemy has been reduced to half” I wonder why XD

[@AntiY]

I like how they probably put the ammo box there long before they added the fliegerfaust, so that players could damage planes before they take off, not reduce them to atoms :D

[@donr.wetter2522]

Wasn't it there from the beginning of bf5

[@DrAlexandrius]

In case anyone is wondering, the songs at the start of the video are as follows Phoenix Rising - Edgar Hopp Refined Enlightenment - Howard Harper Barnes That Impossible Last Breath - Da Sein

[@davidrodgers8546]

02:06 I can’t believe that turtle survived getting chopped by your propeller

[@statoilbensin2190]

David Rodgers Poor koopa troopa

[@ClingyCrab]

It was made out of metal, not plastic straws!

[@hassandabo6288]

Omg i didnt know there were turtled

[@sethjansson5652]

You don't want to hurt Jackfrags feelings now, do you?

[@lookarabbit2888]

This comment is giving me "deja vu" FOR SOME REASON

[@muhammadawan5074]

The poster British should have used during London bombing. "Keep calm and fliegerfaust".

[@macmarcusstudio2653]

Muhammad Awan only that the fliegerfaust is German, so was the planes bombing London.

[@joeblack363]

@@macmarcusstudio2653 I think that's what some people call a joke

[@macmarcusstudio2653]

Joe Black Must be something new, never heard of this “joke” you are talking about.

[@bloodlove93]

@@macmarcusstudio2653 I think it's a farce and conspiracy set in place by Obama that make us think we should laugh and smile.

[@macmarcusstudio2653]

Reapers breath last death must be...

[@portland573]

"Why are you calling an artillery strike on out spawn?!? We need those RP for the next sector..." "Because reasons."

[@ProLeagueOfLegends]

This is what I loved about BF was finding some stupid condition to exploit that would absorb at least 3-4 of the other players on the other team and easily winning the match .

[@eeeguba432]

Tilting plane users is pretty easy and fun, you basically just flack them and then teabag in the killcam, after a bit they forget about the objective and just bomb you, if they get in range first of course lol

[@SamHoward-l9q]

Doing dumb things and somehow making it help your team win is always fun

[@Archadiaes]

You blew me away with your choice of soundtracks. That entry at 9:30 was right and it got me on my seats. Subscribed immediately. And of course the stunning performance on destroying the enemy team. You sir have a showman’s taste

[@kpeters909]

do you know the song?

[@evolxzione]

1:52 l laughed my ass off in that part 🤣

[@PsychoKern]

KZbinr spawn camps for a video: *just a bit of innocent fun* I spawn camp: *gets reported for hacking and gets called different racial slurs* KEKW

[@chrisward3161]

I mean in my eyes its pretty scummy regardless of who does it

[@richcarp8403]

Heh

[@loyalitiy]

Camping isn't bad thing, never in history you will see people running around with their sniper rifles. I like to compare those games to csgo or ARMA series, it called defending. "don't hate the player, hate the game"

[@BoltBandicoot]

If the game allows it, I don't see an issue with it... It's up to Dice to fix it, if it's not meant to be.

[@dlyonthescreen2657]

Camping is a shitty playstyle that ruins it for other players. You kinda deserve it.

[@lovedonny4118]

That guy diving just made my day!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@thelonelypigeon9554]

1:26 I was hoping for a cool medic save dodging bullets and diving and reviving you and making a second wind run. But nope, the world is too cruel for that crap.

[@warden2096]

Wait a second, isn't there an already AA gun on the ship he was on...

[@tristannichols7222]

Yes but I’m sure you can’t go over there anymore but I’m going to try next time I’m on 😂

[@dopezstorms]

Someone I actually like to watch

[@dracofury1173]

Niccaman: “it’s for a vid! I stop now.” Guy: “no no I want revenge.” Everyone else: “Pfft, your funeral bud.”

[@bensmallwood3948]

You legit killed me 3 times in a row as I was taking off.

[@mail8074]

Ben Smallwood how do we know its you

[@thegermanempire489]

Account meme just shut up alright, he said he was one of the players so he is alright so fuck off

[@PU8698]

@@thegermanempire489 i don't see any reason to get mad

[@bensmallwood3948]

He was doing it for a while

[@_R_R_R]

Probably was someone else

[@bronobro1292]

Song used: That impossible last breath - Da Sein

[@zetzwaykiritsugu]

i love how in your vids you dont get one shot or the whole enemy team comes down on you, you make it seem so easy but on ps4 you cant stay in the air for 5 min at a time, its brutal

[@BryanMiraflor]

2:11 "i should probably help him" *continues to drive away* lol

[@sole5962]

The Fliegerfaust, the most historically accurate thing in BF5 since when BF5 was historically accurate

[@OpticStriker98]

It was an actual weapon produced in 1944

[@Bruh-fc7ik]

Chase Mehalick yeah but it was pretty horrible

[@sin5231]

@@OpticStriker98 yes it is real but it was more of a failed expirment more than an actual used weapon .

[@Noobalishus]

@@OpticStriker98 literally everything you just said is easily proven incorrect with a 2 second Google search over 184,000 pages 🤣 there were only 80 made and used for combat trials, which all failed to due to some with a fire rate of 2 seconds per rocket which was too slow, the spread was far too large and unpredictabile and none of them surpassed 150m even though it was designed for 500m. This is the most OP weapon put in BFV that never truly existed 🤣

[@OpticStriker98]

aaemd actually 3 were possible used in the final stand of Berlin since they found them used so historians think it’s a possibility

[@arcticbreeze7524]

Yesterday my squad and I went to that ship and started destroying their planes, it eventually led to a tower defence where we were defending the ship from 15 plus enemies and some tanks. It was a ton of fun

[@fireball8109]

You destroy the fking game. Are u to Bad to get kills on normal way ?

[@fireball8109]

I bet you wouldn t find it funny when u just fly a plane and get killed before u Even get up The air

[@Bruh-fc7ik]

The__Bazz it’s obnoxious but just bite the bullet and take the first sector, they’ll get deserter killed after that

[@arianas0714]

@@fireball8109 Ever heard of trolling?

[@arcticbreeze7524]

@@fireball8109 Bruh the enemies were messaging me and were talking about how fun it was. One of them actually became part of ny everyday squad

[@X7EvolveV]

5:15 you gotta admit that one also was pretty cinematic

[@BlaDeKke]

i still come back for that scream @7:20

[@absentapple]

5:40 “what the hell are you dong here? “ says niccaman I’m the enemy home spawn.

[@swolzer]

in*

[@lucidfox.]

nice editing. I enjoyed it really much.

[@notisac3149]

Ah, reminds me of the good ol' days in BF 1943, when people would spawn camp the aircraft carriers.

[@joeyreta4761]

1:30 you can dolphin dive in BF5?

[@dottyd5457]

Probably the best battlefield v vid I’ve seen you have a new sub right here 🤙🤙

[@Boeing-vi4qj]

Niccaman: *Shoots at the CV's superstructure* Also Niccaman: 'I m i s s e d h i m'

[@astartespete]

The lack of forethought on dice's part for that is staggering.

[@Necrodermis]

There seems to be a distinct lack of after thought at well considering the state of the game

[@SylasTheGreat]

The fact that there's ammo and health shows that they actually wanted this to be a thing. Seems like you lack fore thought

[@astartespete]

@@SylasTheGreat Or maybe, just maybe, there is ammo and health there because its a base spawn genius.

[@SylasTheGreat]

@@astartespete ... Why would you need ammo and health if you just spawned? Nice fore thought genius. You've out shined yourself yet again!

[@astartespete]

@@SylasTheGreat they are literally in every base spawn location as part of the attrition system. try again?

[@boiyoumother4909]

When that message showed up (whats that sound..) i tought the hero would save you (1:31)

[@Niccaman]

If only!

[@psych0play418]

What’s the name of that song

[@giovegas702-8]

The song is Phoenix rising by edger hopp

[@mickymcnoobster1214]

@@giovegas702-8 you sound like alexa

[@walterpelaez1146]

This gives me bf3 flashbacks where everyone would spawn camp the carrier

[@alexmclachlan6431]

At 6:00, if that guy just emerged from the smoke cinematically with cool music. Man, that would be cool

[@Y34RZERO]

This reminds me of sniper camping the heli spawns in BF4 on the siege of shanghai so many years ago when the heli spawned on the roof of a building.

[@mattevans4377]

Yet if those pilots get out of the plane, they are out of bounds. Dice logic at it's finest, lol.

[@imashbuttons1734]

I'm so glad your starting to upload a lot of videos your channel is gonna be at 1 mil before you know it

[@justagamer9808]

how niccaman pinned your post

[@mirkyly1775]

Dice had to reduce the fliegerfaust to 2-bursts and it still claps plane easily

[@brotherchrisgr9070]

5:43 What his doing here? Enemy- imma gonna ask you the same!

[@Mega-P71]

Her: Come over Me: I can't I'm at work Her: my parents are out Me: 1:30

[@mataramasukomaya]

@@ekonomija8718 nice one dude

[@antianti2397]

The Moment her parents come Home is you wehn the guy got just shoot down 😂😂😂 you know the Song Name of the scen

[@beanosmeanos8650]

5:37 if he got on the carrier so can you

[@BacklogDrifter]

Just when I think this game sucks you do something like this lol I love your videos dude

[@rezenking8426]

lmao i love the American who comes out of the water instantly spraying the flamethrower

[@Elktech_gt]

3:45 the best shot ever of a plane crash

[@Sam_Aconitum]

it feels soooo weird seeing a german weapon in pacific theatre

[@zhk0v]

Niccaman: *uploads video called: "how they stopped my max upgraded fliegerfaust"* Me: You can't upgrade gadgets can you?

[@rosaria8384]

1:30 most dedicated Japanese comrade ever. I bet Hirohito is proud of him.

[@maxutragamer469]

Airplane people: stop spawn killing Niccam:ha ha fligerfust go pew pew pew

[@DualDesertEagle]

If I had this game I'd assemble a Fliegerfaust squad to do exactly this!

[@hidekitojo9406]

5:13 this dude was not supposed to join the US...Japan will recruit him,i mean look at that talent

[@lasttempest3286]

That thing is hella scary if you're the target😂😂

[@ferhaanrodjan8794]

Niccaman: i love this guy Guy: i love you too!

[@thebikehub7421]

That edit of the dude jumping and just dying in you is frickin hilarious bro bravo

[@Torsk1007]

Update this has been fixed so you can’t do it anymore

[@intensellylit4100]

Ok

[@imanidiot7709]

amazing

[@thetype97chiha2]

Thanks USS Torsk for the update

[@FredTheJust]

i should try this too. these planes ruin my game everytime..

[@MasterofBlitz]

FREDDY NDHLOVU If they ruin your game imagine being on the end of it during times of war. Especially a good example is massive air bombardment before Operation Cobra especially in the highly elite Panzer Division Lehr.

[@JakesterK74uELITE]

This is how to counter the Americans from mineing the Japanese airfield

[@Qureas]

The japanese also mine the us carriers :P

[@Ferranimo]

Love the positive energy!

[@7firefly763]

Hellas Power was a fucking legend, sneaks a tank behind you after demanding revenge 😂

[@Caliburnz]

Who would win? A highly trained Air Force or one bazooka boi

[@rjshobbies4369]

Under rated comment

[@charlesbirt6928]

@@rjshobbies4369 The comment sucked just like you're sence of being funny.

[@rjshobbies4369]

@@charlesbirt6928 wasn't trying to be funny but ok be an assuming asshole, you are now blocked and I will no longer see your comments enjoy your day

[@AngusCNH]

I wonder why a US ship's ammo stack will have the ammo of Germany's weapons 🤣

[@jordanwhitecar1982]

In the Pacific theater even.

[@RagnarCracker]

Because it's a video game.

[@otabekurazniyazov9145]

2:25 who knows what song is it?

[@ronnybrowning8319]

7:25 very load scream 😂😂😂😎

[@madmaxluciano5370]

That scream😭😭😭was Krazy loud

[@msgtjamest.2205]

What's the song? 1:27

[@gert_inator6370]

All star

[@pwnzus]

Phoenix Rising by Edgar Hopp

[@grrlpurpleable]

DICE PLS!!! They actually designed this??? :O

[@Sulu-s_Apocalypse]

dice has problems with logic, ya know...

[@Arnisho]

0:34 "that was on target" ??? you literally missed everything lol

[@theburritobanditoi5613]

He missed because he literally can't hit it

[@lumberjackv8393]

i probably enjoyed this more than i should

[@gemmabutterworth1208]

When the guy dived in to try and save you that's me as a medic doing anything to save teammates

[@solarray8484]

Name of song starting at 0:46 that sounds so familiar I just can’t put my finger on it.

[@safaakar9090]

that impossible last breath da sein

[@SigmaFish]

@@safaakar9090 how about song before that

[@lucj134]

What’s it called

[@JustJohn505]

Dont worry niccaman I've done worst I spawn camped the enemy airfield with my fully loaded corsair I understand is dirty but this guy keep killing me and I grew such anger and hatred inside of me I'm learning how to stop but ot just feels so goooood

[@blackzim9231]

They need to half the damage for that thing, its just broken

[@owarida6241]

Doesn't matter when the whole enemy team carry those xD

[@GameOver._.]

Make the damage low as fuck make it only short range and very slow rockets or just take it away....

[@zenyxd45]

1:25 idk why but that save was just too epic

[@anubisd613]

1:36 da best pall ever

[@SilkOCE]

I'm gonna have to ask you to stop making these aircraft carrier related videos. I've been mined that many times and it's your fault!

[@JohnMacbeth]

Someone mined the end of the aircraft carrier?! 😂😂😂

[@David-eh9le]

Cry me a river lol. Like they wouldnt do it ontheir own