Nick Szabo - The Quiet Master of Cryptocurrency | Co-Hosted by Naval Ravikant | The Tim Ferriss Show

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[@kevinriordan5428]

Nick is Satoshi; however, he learned from the mistakes of the past (ie. the scapegoating of figureheads by governments etc.) and wanted for Bitcoin to to be a technology "for the people, by the people". Thanks Nick.

[@davedewsnap288]

LMFAO

[@CHURCHISAWESUM]

The government knows who it is. Why do you think they’d respect his anonymity? If you think they can’t figure out who it is, then lol, you need to learn more about PRISM

[@salted19]

Listened to 4 years later and it's still so relevant after so many changes. Great pod

[@karnazacss]

Ty Im new to this world and I was wondering how relevant it still is, so thank you!

[@tecnica-de-voz]

I have to say Tim, you are a TREMENDOUS interviewer. Exactly when a conversation topic like this can turn into a dark nerd kind of thing for the regular listener you have the incredible ability to stop these techy people and say: for those out there who don't know what [weird tech acronym name] is... For that I thank you very much. Gracias.

[@TheMisteracdc]

O

[@hassangideon1915]

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[@claytongunnar6111]

@Hassan Gideon instablaster ;)

[@hassangideon1915]

@Clayton Gunnar thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm trying it out now. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.

[@hassangideon1915]

@Clayton Gunnar It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy:D Thanks so much, you saved my ass!

[@nmills5367]

Man, it would be great to get Nick Szabo on the podcast!

[@jonathanderin503]

Nick Szabo is one of the smartest minds in the crypto space

[@mudcoff]

in the space in general?

[@pittsburghhodlr4613]

The smartest, hands down, sir.

[@neio4201]

Craig Wright is the master.

[@jordanw2009]

4 years later and I still think this confirmed Nick is the real Satoshi. “When I made Bitcoin-gold I…” that section of the convo pushed it over the edge for me. Anybody else?

[@densoislove]

+ Hill Phiney + Elon Musk 😂

[@jamint.jaddua1771]

Naaa I just think he just wants to take the credit

[@mariolongtin8271]

It's either him, Hal or Len

[@BluewatersBlackSails]

1:35:42. Wow, Freudian slip? Only a student of law could be so clever. Thank you NS=SN

[@renman140]

A. M. Definitely a Freudian Slip

[@EricDBruce]

Ohhhh shit. Very much so a freudian slip

[@davedewsnap288]

So he was with Kleiman Wright & Finney. There were Four

[@AntonioAugusto1010]

There is even a statue of Satoshi nakamoto in Nick's homeland Hungary

[@nilkonom]

when did satoshi ever claim that he designed bitcoin with two layers?

[@Ctgregory5]

I wonder if Naval knew he was sitting next to Satoshi Nakamoto, he would let Nick talk more

[@MrJonboy31]

Pl

[@MrJonboy31]

Ppppplppl

[@davedewsnap288]

But ofc, he wasn’t

[@labandonaldhock80]

Paul LaRoux is Satoshi, but Nick, Hal, Craig and Adam and several more conducted the implementation of bitcoin.

[@labandonaldhock80]

Paul LaRoux is not a popular subject, but he most likely is a victim of his handler’s boss being attacked by another boss, as LaRoux was an informant who was too smart for his own good, due to intra-agency wars

[@filmmakinglifestyle]

Ostensibly a Nick Szabo interview, but more a Naval Ravikant lecture on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

[@jenniferl8714]

True. But you must admit Naval added a lot of clarity

[@fredfood5204]

@@jenniferl8714 he subtracted opportunity for szabo to even talk. Naval added 0.

[@jasonturner5286]

How has Bitcoin/crypto been trending so high, but this episode only has 79K views...? Thank you for your work and passion Tim. I'm grateful to have virtual mentors like yourself and Naval. Thank you for the influential and thought-inspiring material. Please do not ever feel like you and Naval collaborate too much.

[@GregoirePtrue]

Ignorance and greed

[@lianlight8447]

I wish nick szabo actually had a chance to talk in his own interview

[@spceboi]

@@HenriZava naval does well explaining what nick is talking about, but ends up interrupting a lot. I wish they gave him a chance to finish his thoughts then dissect them

[@EGarrett01]

@@spceboi Naval is a good speaker and sounds like a nice and intelligent guy, but Nick's opinions and explanations are historically significant in this case. It's like getting a chance to hear Robert Hooke or Edmond Halley talk about the origins of the laws of motion and Principia Mathematica.

[@kingwill3k]

I just listened to this and was super confused. I thought it was a Nick Szabo interview but the guy can’t get a sentence out before he’s interrupted. For a sec I thought he had a split personality. I had to find this on KZbin to make sure there were 3 people on the podcast and not 2 as is implied.

[@benjaminkaarst]

Somebody needs to make a version with just Nick and Tim.

[@MrJti8899]

This was a great conversation, an incredible balance between the three of you that left me feeling like not a minute of my time was wasted. . .until I viewed the comment section, will never grasp the value of "first". Much gratitude to all of the contributors, I feel very much enriched by being allowed to listen in. Lots of recommended reading to work on.

[@melvinreyes]

This is the Real Satohi Nakamoto, no doubt.

[@relikpL]

I hope not, especially given his recent political rants on Twitter

[@ayayyay]

relik That’s the best part about him.

[@jaked5947]

100%

[@bperez8656]

He’s unhinged rant fanatic He ain’t shit

[@offdagoop2030]

I think whoever Satoshi is, he/she would be politically neutral being that it’s impossible to please everybody.

[@GregoirePtrue]

Years ago, i stumbled upon this gem here and ive been white-knuckle flying down the rabbit hole ever since. This podcast was the catalyst that forever evolved my current mental models regarding blockchain and crypto. From die-hard silver stacking bitcoin hater, to die-hard silver AND Sat stacker. There is room, if not necessity, for both. ❤🎉

[@hvbris_]

This interview would be x100 better without Naval interrupting Nick every 5 seconds

[@quinnrsligo]

44:33 "As the stock market is becoming more efficient it's actually becoming more volatile, because it's reacting faster and faster to information changes."

[@nqobilemahlangu3812]

Man, this interview should have a billion views seriously!

[@Mrsdstry]

katrillions

[@bent9953]

I liked this interview, except for the 2 hours that Naval talked and cut off Nick when he was saying something more insightful and intelligent. If i wanted to hear a bunch of Charlie Munger quotes I'd buy a quotebook Naval. Shush.

[@peterrodriguez5590]

I have been listening to about 1/3 of the interview. This is more an interview with Naval than with Nick. Naval keeps interrupting Nick. Annoying!

[@ofereliassaf]

The other dude didn't let Nick talk. This is a big miss, since it could have been historical interview and now we hear the other dude talk instead of Nick. Too bad.

[@beartowitness]

this

[@JacobRitter]

Ofer Eliassaf who was that dude?

[@DuncanAitken]

Naval Ravikant. Quite the genius too. hackernoon.com/reflections-on-the-best-blockchain-tweets-ever-written-d488af960d4f tim.blog/naval

[@Greg_P611]

I know its sucks

[@robmack1205]

Naval would be the most interesting person in the world talking about Bitcoin 99% of the time, but this wasn't one of those times. He wasn't that bad but he sure did interrupt at some bad times. I really felt like he was trying to impress his idol (Nick) more than anything.

[@jeffdoyle]

This interview got me into cryptocurrency in 2017. Thanks!!

[@boysenberrydracula3599]

My goodness. What a quality conversation!

[@BinanceUSD]

Amazing man thank you. Mises and Hayek lives on.

[@bitcoinbelle]

A protocol is a rule set. That's all. Tim, what were you thinking having Naval on this episode?

[@RakibFiha]

NS- Nakamoto Satoshi NS- Nick Szabo Nick Szabo = Satoshi Nakamoto

[@SoundAsleepSpace]

Szatoshi Nickamoto

[@Scorch428]

If hes not Satoshi, then he better be mad as hell they stole his project

[@alex_sharp]

Naval needs to stop talking, Szabo is more educated in this space by a long streach but he keeps chiming in with his 2c on every topic.

[@pc-mz6rn]

Thank you Nick Szabo for giving us Satoshi Nakamoto 🔥

[@TheHHPodcast]

"You could pass a border with a billion dollars in your mind."

[@eganesan]

Need an edited out version of the talk where we can hear just NS

[@_rytube]

🤯🤯🤯

[@noelsphinx3968]

Nick Szabo is Satoshi Nakamoto. He just admitted it.

[@adeelzafar3299]

56:10 Naval how can you say Nick isn't a serious programmer? He created Bitcoin.

[@mrsalilg]

A Computer Scientist isn't necessarily a programmer. Bitcoin doesn't require that many lines of code, it's not a traditional application, and Nick might not spend his day to day programming, as programmers do.

[@adeelzafar3299]

@@mrsalilg "In early years Bitcoin* only had about 3k lines of source code, as described by Greg Maxwell. Currently, the Bitcoin Core source code contains more 100k lines of code which is roughly equivalent to Monero." Even 3k lines of code is quite a lot. And it's not like anything else. It's a lot of logical code that requires a lot of architecture design, trying, failing and debugging beforehand too.

[@salilgupta9427]

@@adeelzafar3299wow, thanks for sharing. Do you have any favorite crypto projects?

[@putosprogres]

I agree that Nick is SN, but that doesn't mean necessarily that he's a programmer. Gavin Andresen and Adam Back are programmers, but none of them are Satoshi. If you see Bitcoin whitepaper, you'll see SN always speak as "we" but never "I"

[@DoritoWorldOrder]

1:35:19 ... there you have it folks! By way of Freudian slip.

[@cryptoholic5120]

Amazing stuff everyone needs to watch this

[@DiceyJJ]

2 and a half hour video with maybe 20 minutes of Szabo speaking (other guy kept interrupting, annoying)...a frustrating listen!!

[@duudleDreamz]

Nick Szabo is great. So why did he need to be interrupted a million times during this interview?

[@benjohnson1x1]

XEN crypto is the next Bitcoin. Don’t miss it. $XEN

[@GeneralSalt]

Next interview idea: Vitalik Buterin with David Lee Roth

[@manjunathchandran613]

Thanks Guys! Air, Earth, Space, Sun, Water... 🙏

[@manjunathchandran613]

Not Money?

[@rag98709]

"Money is a bubble that never pops..."

[@mikebasketball11]

The currency popped. But 'Money' didn't.

[@toddmaek5436]

@@mikebasketball11 word

[@schlachtfilms7179]

Nick szabo and hal finney are satoshi nakamoto

[@stockstar6175]

Nick Szabo is Satoshi Nakamoto

[@GregoirePtrue]

Also, Nick Szabo for president.

[@kumaravelrajan]

WHAT. A. PODCAST. I was too dumb to understand the entirety of it, but boy it was a great conversation.

[@HardikBhakhar]

Hello Tim. Bring Nassim Nicholas Taleb here. Thanks in advance.😁

[@user-dd5kx5md5o]

Great interview, it would have been better with just Tim and Nick. Can you do another follow-up interview? Naval just keeps talking too much about nothing and mostly himself.

[@iamripoff]

Sounds like Naval

[@EGarrett01]

I love that this was posted by an account with the name Nick.

[@jasonturner5286]

Totally disagree, just another perspective, information bank, and curious mind to inspire better conversation.

[@susymay7831]

What do people think about the future of linkchain (LINK)?

[@Farrajification]

Why is Naval talking over the people who actually create things...

[@TSBOFRLM]

Who is this intelligent to even think like this?!!!...Wow! So impressive!

[@DuncanAitken]

A Polymath. :)

[@Greg_P611]

I am very very interested in hearing anything that comes out of Nick szabo's mouth but this interview is not a good reference for researching Nick's work because Tim is interviewing two people at the same time and you can never tell who's talking

[@officialdropnation]

szaboshi

[@Metabrotropic]

Szaboshi Nickamoto

[@Nikzww187]

NS = SN

[@moeinhasani8718]

the interview starts at 8:08

[@spatyo]

I really liked Naval until this interview. Why couldn’t he shut up and let Nick speak in his own interview? This podcast should have been re-recorded with Nick only...

[@muhammedbaldeh559]

I need a transcript of this podcash. Just soo much data in here.

[@budingermichael5327]

Tim, we don't know who Naval is and don't really want to hear him.. You as the host are obligated to let the guest- Nick- speak.

[@neoanderson367]

Why the hell does this guy have my last name as his first name 🤔

[@richmar103]

@@neoanderson367 lol

[@bperez8656]

Awful host. I will not be subscribing as a result

[@youretheai7586]

Anonymity doesn't exist online. Sure encryption helps to an extent but do people use keyboards? Is there a graphics card being used to display data on a screen? It's best to assume everything you've ever done is recorded and archived. Seashells were likely used as "money" for their calcium carbonate. This alkaline molecule was used in agriculture, architecture and medicine. In my humble opinion, I don't care what money is. I just want to pay for goods and services in a convenient way. It's an argument that's equivalent to believing ASE or Metric is better. They're just units of measure. I believe good genetics in plants and animals is far more valuable then anything else in existence. It's a blend of biological software with hardware. Good genetics is genuinely priceless. At least that's my opinion here and now. I could easily be wrong. Hopefully I learn more wisdom along the path I take through life.

[@0ptimal]

Lol, when naval explains mining and finishes Nick says "anyway so umm"

[@Jay-yy5rp]

Great interview!

[@diegocabrera7303]

Is there any transcript of this?

[@njabulo8209]

1:22:38 Personal reminder why to get in on the ground of blockchain and crypto.

[@bperez8656]

The intro waiting for the interview to start was elongated and insufferable

[@IAR2014]

Should change the title to: Satoshi Nakamoto Interview

[@bitcoinbelle]

"Nick can take a stab." Naval's ego . . .

[@mr.fusion9872]

Exactly. Also kept interrupting. Naval is an idiot

[@wasimshaikh1665]

1:35:35 " I designed Bitcoin...gold" that's only confirmation we will ever get.

[@jordanw2009]

I think one day when they’re old or ready we will get a confirmation. Gavin seemed to always know who satoshi was an came out later as having lied about Craig Wright being Satoshi. Of it, Gavin has said it’s creation was “like a Hollywood movie.” When he took over as head of BTC devs for Satoshi. Nick finally got it right here and between him Hal and Adam Back they seemed to get it done.

[@wasimshaikh1665]

People will comeback to this podcast after 10 15 years and realise that Naval had it figured out way before anyone else.

[@joaoandrade6182]

1:35:40 is what you are looking for.

[@gubatron]

love Nick, but I can't help to think of Beavis and Butthead when I hear him speak

[@danandersson7768]

Thanks, now I can't unhear it

[@FixedWing82]

Yep. Cannot unhear.

[@mikejamieson419]

Hal Finney was John (Lennon) & Nick is Paul

[@cruzilla6265]

I wish Naval would shut up and let Nick (the expert) talk

[@mr.fusion9872]

Naval ruins this with his ego. Like wtf. Navals small brain cant process nicks immense knowledge and thoughts. This guy man wow… nick needs to come back solo..

[@bradynields9783]

24:47 Forget scarcity, when will elasticity be a characteristic of a good money?

[@bidask123]

If the entire contents of KZbin (including, importantly, the comments section) were downloaded into a computer to process (how to process is key), there would be a reasonable result of the output that is close to AGI.

[@brandonrcstudios]

we're getting there

[@bidask123]

@@brandonrcstudios I made this comment 2 years ago, so how fast are you "getting there"?

[@brandonrcstudios]

@@bidask123 pretty fast I'd say

[@bidask123]

@@brandonrcstudios Yes, you are right, it only took you 4 minutes to reply to my comment this time! That is fast.

[@brandonrcstudios]

@@bidask123 Lmao not trying to argue, just debating AI is advancing at a much faster rate than expected

[@investquest4551]

Naval is going to need to eat his words about the singularity. Goes to show these guys are intellectual giants but elon is on another level

[@benjaminkaarst]

Naval is insufferable. Interrupting people more informed and articulate than himself.

[@iamripoff]

lol rekt with truth

[@bperez8656]

That is what you call insufferable for sure

[@hottentotta2]

In Hungarian the family name is the first name Szabó Nick Satoshi Nakamoto

[@viralvideos7952]

Is this episode 244?

[@fredfood5204]

Actually unbelievable that this Nobodynaval made szabo a third wheel in szabo’s own interview. One of the lamest podcasts.The guy actually derails szabo biographical discussion. “Yeah so anyway as I was saying….”

[@valamerkozlowski7915]

The Eastern Europeans are the people with the highest IQ in this world. Nick Szabo Hungarian created Bit Coin protocol and software, Vitalik Buterin Russian created Ethereum protocol and softwere to support it.

[@vineelgunja]

username checks out

[@charliem123321]

Great vid

[@kryptotrader4699]

he is it.

[@euclideszoto997]

It appears we are approaching Matthew chapter 12.

[@Scottyboyhvacdude]

If only we knew then what we do now, we'd all be rich

[@Bud189]

Nick had a freudian slip and said "When i was designing Bitcoin, i mean Bitgold" He was satoshi or at least part of the group

[@MonstrinhosdoAlfabeto]

"some people are more qualified than others" yet naval did not take the hint to let nick talk.

[@gloriamariadc7757]

Nick was pure click bait. This was not a Nick Szabo interview. Other than th promotion of his blog. Nick was a guest, to a convo btwn Tim & Naval. Lol

[@bitcoinbelle]

Point of clarification: the blockchain has all of the on-chain bitcoin txns.

[@paulparent5628]

The hour glass . Yes a singular hit

[@BrunBacken]

But.. is he Satoshi Nakamoto?

[@gregchristie2936]

Hey Satoshi Nakamoto

[@jalam5298]

YOU CAN LIVE THROUGH ANYTHING IF MAGIC MADE IT

[@jalam5298]

HUNT ME DOWN LIKE THE CIA BAD BITCHES....RI RE

[@inancgumus4125]

1:35:42: "I designed bitcoin..."

[@sonushetty2435]

Guys let Nick talk for god's sake.

[@AmikaofMan]

BITCOIN IS NOW $70K !!!

[@JamaaLS]

soon it will be 500k

[@AmikaofMan]

@@JamaaLS Been saying the same thing but what I've seen over the last 6 months does give me pause.... and disappointment

[@oldturk7517]

takes 8 minute to start the podcast ??

[@tenniesshoes]

lots of podcasts have advertisements at the beginning skip the first 6-10 minutes normally

[@cristher5685]

What an annoying guy, so ducking rude interrupting mr Szabo and acting like knowing it all, he is a computer/models/science/...all expert, even as saying other guys ideas "I use to think of bitcoin as the internet of money" is a term described by a guy who wrote a book title like that, which I don't recommend. A good book to get the basics of Bitcoin and the economic theory is The Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous.

[@slobrat3556]

God damn eths market cap was only 8-9 billion... 👀

[@harekrishna1519]

Mr satoshi nakamoto we ❤ u

[@呀你可]

45:00 China mentioned

[@Maydaymusik]

Coin Bureau?