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Secrets of the Merseyrail - Part 1

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Nick Badley

Nick Badley

Күн бұрын

Inspired by Geoff Marshall's "Secrets Of" series, I bring you secrets of the Merseyrail!
Twitter: @NickBadley
Merseyrail is a rapid transit train railway network situated in Liverpool (Or Merseyside), serving said county, and also small parts of Cheshire and Lancashire. Running a 15 minute service on all but one branch, and a 5-minute metro style service in the city centre! Anyway, here are some secrets. Hope you enjoy!

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@CaptainMarmite
@CaptainMarmite 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve worked for Merseyrail for 18 years and you taught me a few things. Nice one.
@Mitch-Hendren
@Mitch-Hendren 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, you're doing what I used to do in the seventies armed with a 50p merseyrover ticket.. unlimited travel from 6pm Friday night till last service Sunday.. The reason you go up to go down at moorfields Is it was to be part of the abandoned Liverpool pedway scheme . A series of pedestrian walkways linking the city by pavements at 1st floor level , there are still bits of it at st Johns market, Williamson square, and the pier head /goree/the strand. Well worth checking out
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh! So *that's* why it is. Thank you!
@f0urstr1ng
@f0urstr1ng Күн бұрын
So as of mid 2024 I can say that this video with its views of the old trains has very quickly obtained a nostalgic feel to it. Enjoyed 👏👏
@gnhansen29
@gnhansen29 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to see Secrets videos of other cities in the UK. It's also a shame that the Liverpool Overhead Railway didn't survive.
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 2 жыл бұрын
Eyesore and nobody used it.
@majorpygge-phartt2643
@majorpygge-phartt2643 2 жыл бұрын
@@uingaeoc3905 The dockers used it to shelter from the rain, hence it's nickname, the "dockers' umbrella".
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 I am aware of that. There are not that many Dockers now either. Walks down Memory Lane - I used to deliver telegrams to the last Atlantic Liners (CP Empires) as a boy.
@PreNeanderthal
@PreNeanderthal 2 жыл бұрын
@@uingaeoc3905 I'm a Londoner, but I used it once, when I was a boy. Pity it had to go.
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it! I'd love to see a video about it and what the space looks like now... A before and after comparison...
@vanillasplash6198
@vanillasplash6198 2 жыл бұрын
Recon you'll blow up soon, keep at it. You have a great voice for these types of videos, not being rude but theres a lot of people who mumble into the mic without conviction
@Blubatt
@Blubatt 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Part 2 is in order, Nick. You have certainly got enough intel to do some more. I would implore you to cover the City Line too. I talk a little bit about Ormskirk station on my own 'Secrets of Ormskirk Town' video. It might even be helpful to do a bit on the expansion of the Northern Line, since it is being proposed that both Ormskirk and Kirkby won't be interchange termini with the new trains on the way. We could be getting yellow and grey trains into both Preston and Wigan Wallgate in the not too distant future.
@theheirophant7113
@theheirophant7113 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I grew up in Rock Ferry in the 1960s so I remember when the trains terminated at Liverpool Central. I recall the old Exchange station was dirty & the Southport trains were different from the rolling stock on the Wirral. My parents never owned a car as we had such a great transport infrastructure on our doorstep.
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 2 жыл бұрын
Central Mainline was the terminus for the mainline to Midlands and Central Low Level for the Wirral services. All the mainline stations were scruffy in those days - the big Beeching closures and then the major redevelopments from the 2000s have changed all of that. The Exchange facade fronts a modern office block and looks great.
@Lewsyther
@Lewsyther Жыл бұрын
As both a Merseyside film maker and someone who frequently travels on these lines, this video was extremely cool and a joy to watch!
@sweetchills-ky9mg
@sweetchills-ky9mg Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much what a excellent British English speaker you are, you helped me to learn British English too.
@Krakuun
@Krakuun 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, fascinating to understand more about these stations, appreciated the additional insight
@AnthonyFurnival
@AnthonyFurnival 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Really enjoyed this and learned a lot! Very well presented and put together.
@dtvfan24
@dtvfan24 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work and just awesome to see
@deiniolbythynnwr926
@deiniolbythynnwr926 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. I use these trains often and it's nice to learn more about the lines.
@AvgeekMelUK
@AvgeekMelUK 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Nick - thanks for taking the time to film it & putting it together so well - just subscribed too 😃
@joesimmons2406
@joesimmons2406 6 ай бұрын
Very informative and enjoyable. Thank you.
@tomburke5311
@tomburke5311 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. It brought back lots of memories. I lived in Merseyside during the 70s; we lived “over the water” in Rock Ferry and I worked in Liverpool, so I used the Merseyrail every day. Sometimes we went down to Chester for the afternoon, and the contrast between (what seemed to be) the modern electric trains to Liverpool and the old DMUs from Rock Ferry to Chester was very noticeable. Today, of course, it’s the electric trains that feel old, whereas a ride in a heritage DMU would be a treat. But it’s good to see how the network has been maintained & extended. Well done Merseyrail!
@johnnyonezero2
@johnnyonezero2 2 жыл бұрын
This is great Nick, thanks. I was born in Southport and lived in Maghull as a kid so its very nice to see them now. I must take a trip to Merseyside again soon
@gregvideo07
@gregvideo07 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video ! Well done !
@Shelfandtabletoplayouts00gauge
@Shelfandtabletoplayouts00gauge 2 жыл бұрын
I think you covered it Nick👍 fantastic video, the area is one in transition, hopefully going the right way.. …good to hear about the extension from Kirkby 👍 Great channel, Darren
@dickoon
@dickoon 2 жыл бұрын
Marshall quality. Thank you for making and sharing this.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I am honoured!
@larrydavid2728
@larrydavid2728 2 жыл бұрын
You just popped up on my KZbin and I really enjoyed and learnt stuff on my daily route to work. Well done. I would love to see more abandoned stations. Like the Lanchester station and maybe walks under the old lines. Like Crown Street station
@Class777
@Class777 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I knew all these secrets already, this was still a great video to watch!
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! If it's requested enough, I'll make a part 2 with some more, hopefully more obscure, secrets! Stay tuned!
@wollyxl
@wollyxl 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, you really do know the secrets of the Mersey rail.
@Robslondon
@Robslondon 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this Nick, great work 😉
@christopherwilson3442
@christopherwilson3442 6 ай бұрын
Very clear and concise. I worked on the Ormskirk and Wigan lines a long time ago.
@spatrompete2601
@spatrompete2601 Жыл бұрын
Great work
@nickmendes5458
@nickmendes5458 Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@RushfanUK
@RushfanUK 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Birkenhead and worked in Liverpool from 1989 to 1991 so interesting to see the changes, well done.
@danielo9703
@danielo9703 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, learned something new
@buffplums
@buffplums 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video chap… you are doing what I used to do in the 70s. I used to ride the Merseyrail network before the loop line and the old Cheshire lines Liverpool, Central to Warrington line was reopened as far as Garston and then into to Hunts Cross. So much to say as your video wants to make me jump in and add something here and there … I could tell you a lot of what I learnt but it would take so much time …. But great video and nice to see a young man with appetite for preserving our history.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Much appreciated!
@antoniograna7258
@antoniograna7258 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job!
@williamwatson228
@williamwatson228 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that Nick. I'd just point out that although Merseyrail terminates at Hunts Cross and Kirkby you can connect with Northern diesels to Manchester, Wigan and Lancashire at the same stations. Likewise at Ormskirk for Preston. Platform 2 at James Street is still in use; usually when there's a problem on the loop. I used the platform on Thursday 4 Aug 22.
@dan003
@dan003 Жыл бұрын
Stunning video! Really enjoyed watching. As a Little Sutton resident I've learned an interesting fact about our station there!
@andrewfarr9954
@andrewfarr9954 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video - lots of interesting stuff
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Happy to hear it!
@arthurgrowler5749
@arthurgrowler5749 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video 👍 Thanks for sharing
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
The _City Line_ *is* a part of Merseyrail. The stations have the same signage and livery as Merseyrail and ticketing. When commuter trains run by other operators enter Merseytravel's area they become City Line trains. The Line is on the Merseyrail maps.
@sidewinder3185
@sidewinder3185 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video.Look forward to the next.subbed and liked
@Infrastructure-Nerd
@Infrastructure-Nerd Жыл бұрын
Great video
@SpudderRail
@SpudderRail 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video, one thing that you missed is the abandoned platforms of Upton-by-Chester between Bache and Capenhurst on the Chester line.
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 Жыл бұрын
I'll say what I said on another video of yours: it's a delight to see our wonderful network get some much-deserved attention. I'm gonna miss the old 507/8s... ;-;
@guineagirl5078
@guineagirl5078 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! So interesting 😃
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
▪Merseyrail is the second oldest urban underground railway in the world. ▪It also has the first ever deep level stations - as mentioned. ▪Part of the City Line runs on 1830 alignments and through 1836 tunnels. ▪I believe the Northern Line also runs on alignments from the 1840s. I _believe_ older than anything in London. ▪If and when the 1829 Wapping Tunnel is used that will be the oldest underground part of any urban railway in the world. ▪The oldest _used_ station in the world is the 1830 Broad Green station on the City Line. ▪The Overhead Railway ran inland to Aintree to stations use by the current Merseyrail. So a pretty unique metro. The Battery trains will add to that uniqueness.
@xBurko
@xBurko 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video and I learnt a few things! Should’ve went to Ormskirk though
@garyley4270
@garyley4270 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@katefrost3788
@katefrost3788 Жыл бұрын
I like secrets if it is a old one i still love your videos and your Merseyrail videos are insane
@FromtheWindowSeat
@FromtheWindowSeat 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice work! 👌
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@sterlinghartley2165
@sterlinghartley2165 2 жыл бұрын
I have been meaning to check Liverpool of my list of city's visit and with the trains going sooner rather than later might be a good idea. This was a great video, would be cool to see some more in-depth look at Merseyside transit. Maybe then and now with the Overhead railway. Can't wait for anything else if it this level of quality.
@yessno8800
@yessno8800 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very interesting
@imsbvs
@imsbvs Жыл бұрын
Great video, of course this was filmed in 2022 and "Pre Eurovision" which is going to bring a new dimension to Liverpool and an influx of visitors like never before - including me and I look forwards to riding the new trains too!
@japanunravelled
@japanunravelled 2 жыл бұрын
You did a great job with this one. Nothing wrong with being inspired by Geoff either. +1 sub from me - keep the videos coming!
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I have several other videos planned for the coming weeks. Stay tuned!
@Steinwelt
@Steinwelt 2 жыл бұрын
You mirrored geoff perfectly!
@paulinecostigan8343
@paulinecostigan8343 Жыл бұрын
Very Interesting
@neilpotts9559
@neilpotts9559 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and very well presented. You should come up to the North East and do a program on the Tyne & Wear metro… although it was only introduced in 1980…. There is plenty of history as it uses some of the disused steam train coastal stations.
@tonyfenerty2516
@tonyfenerty2516 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one ….💙
@peterdawson2645
@peterdawson2645 2 жыл бұрын
Just been in Liverpool (by canal boat!) and went up to Birkdale to watch cricket at Southport CC - certainly a nice station. Despite often travelling on Merseyrail and walking round the city centre on visits I didn't know the Exchange facade was still there. Interesting stuff!
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
The Liverpool Lime St to Wigan Line, via St Helens, which is on the _City Line,_ was to be fully integrated into Merseyrail Electrics i the original plan. It was diesel run until 2015, when it was electrified. They use cast off Thameslink trains that had overhead wires and 3rd rail. The 3rd rail boot was removed. It was envisaged that the service would be run by Merseyrail Electrics rather than Northern. But as the Wapping tunnel from Central station to Edge Hill was not used, there is no way to get the trains to stabling/maintenance depots at Kirkdale and Birkenhead. So they stayed with Northern. Getting the Wapping Tunnel used would fully integrate the network. This is essential. Expanding overcrowded Central station and reusing the Wapping tunnel would mean even Manchester trains could run into Liverpool's underground section - shopping and business quarters. Or even to James St (cruise liner service).
@brianfretwell3886
@brianfretwell3886 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the City Line is included in the Merseyrail Daysaver ticket, in case anyone is worried. Also t here are still some 508 carriages in use in some 455 units used by South Western Railway from when the 508s were shortened from 4 to 3 carriages when they went north as Merseyrail couldn't use 8 carriage sets. We'll lose them when the 701 units are finally put into used. I wonder if that will be before the 777s are.
@sexyguy3647
@sexyguy3647 2 жыл бұрын
It is (assuming you mean a saveaway) up to Garswood & Newton le willows after that it's not because it becomes greater manchester
@garyphisher7375
@garyphisher7375 Жыл бұрын
@@sexyguy3647 And you could use the saveaway on the ferry.
@InternationalEdward
@InternationalEdward Жыл бұрын
The Merseyrail Daysaver (£5.95) is only valid for travel on Merseyrail Electrics Northern and Wirral Lines. The Merseytravel Saveaway (£6.00 for all zones) is valid on the entire Merseyrail Electrics lines plus the City and Borderlands Lines within Merseyside, the buses and the ferry. Definitely worth the extra 5p!
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! 😃
@peterdobson5726
@peterdobson5726 2 жыл бұрын
Think I've found my new favorite KZbinr
@Bond2025
@Bond2025 9 ай бұрын
At 4:03 before you reach Birkenhead Park Station there is an old "Home Guard" Depot used during the war. It is on the junction of Beckwith Street and Arthur Street, there is only a fence around it now, but that is where the base was. Looking on a map, it has new flats built right next to it or on part of it now. This served as a maintenance store for years.
@ste-fitzgerald
@ste-fitzgerald Жыл бұрын
THat water street entrance is interesting and James Street is amazing.
@ExpoAviation
@ExpoAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Nick, I always try to get a ride on the Merseyrail whenever I visit Liverpool (even if it is just a short hop from Lime St to James St) and it will be a shame to see the PEP stock going :(
@buffplums
@buffplums 2 жыл бұрын
Just one thing there was the Seacombe Branch but that wasn’t electrified but it used to connect near the 3 way split on the NB, WK and Birkenhead North
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think I was clear enough when I said that. I said "The Wirral Railway on its New Brighton and West Kirby branches" and not just "The Wirral Railway" specifically because of the Seacombe branch. Was mainly just to prevent the history segment from dragging on for too long.
@TheVleckChannel
@TheVleckChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I get off at Moorfields a lot to go to the nearby cigar shop. I read somewhere the ticket hall at the station is one storey above the ground because an elevated walkway was originally due to be built across the street to link up to the station.
@eddoh10
@eddoh10 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@Merseywail
@Merseywail 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video. Just a few extra things. The Southport line was electrified in 1904. Ormskirk got electric services in 1913. There were also two electrified branches, the North mersey via Marsh Lane and strand Rd, (Bootle new strand) & Aintree. And from Southport as far as Crossens on the west lancs line. Kirkby was electrified in 1977. The original plan at Lime Street was to have the escalators direct from the loop platform to the main line station, but this was changed at the planning stage to what we have now. At Hunts Cross the original plans would have had the line continue via Gateacre, Bell Vale, Broad Green, edge hill & back to Central via another underground station by the Catholic cathedral. There also would have been a North East loop via North mersey and West Derby
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, I see, thank you very much!
@majorpygge-phartt2643
@majorpygge-phartt2643 2 жыл бұрын
And there was some old pictures once at ormskirk which were supposedly taken in the 1950's, but they must've been much older than that because they showed all the tracks there without any conductor rails which as you rightly point out have been there since 1913, so someone doesn't know their local history.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that could have been interesting, are those lines still in use but not part of the electric network ?
@Merseywail
@Merseywail 2 жыл бұрын
@@highpath4776 no, the lines were closed and are now a cycle path. A short section of the tunnel that would have led to edge hill was built, but leads to a dead end
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 2 жыл бұрын
@@Merseywail The freight line through the North loop, Tuebrook, Breck, Spellow, Walton, is still active. With luck this could be operated by battery sets on the new stock 777s and the section re-opened for passenger traffic.
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I enjoyed it. Great to see that the old Liverpool Exchange building is stll standing.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the *facade* of the building is still there. The rest has been demolished and the site is now office spaces. Nice that they left it, though!
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBadley Thank you. That's what I meant, the façade. 👍
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, phew! Sorry, thought I'd misled you accidentally!
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBadley Most of the station's footprint is still there. Used as surface car parking, like lots of central Liverpool. The back section could be reused as a station. Exchange was mooted as a terminus for HS2 by extending the station over Leeds St. It is not far from the cruise liner terminal.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant honestly enjoyed it, shame you missed the train at Walton
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, Simon! Thanks for watching! Yeah it was a shame 😂
@Jacob-il4yf
@Jacob-il4yf 2 жыл бұрын
Total legend
@JosephRawsthorne31
@JosephRawsthorne31 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and you should do a merseyrail video on the Kayla bibby concept map for 2030, i love how the line from Blackpool to southport could be done and the semi fast services too :)
@williamdfr1715
@williamdfr1715 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Your editing makes it all look so seamless, but it all must have taken an age to film and then edit, so good work
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was quite an undertaking. Filming was done over 2 days, about 12 hours in total, then editing was about another 15 hours. Around 5 hours of which was just doing the animation at the beginning!
@RailwayDan
@RailwayDan 2 жыл бұрын
Good work Nick. Well done. I often wondered why Geoff never covered Merseyside. He did Glasgow and Newcastle, but forgot about Liverpool !!!
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the UK forget Liverpool. Strangely the city has karma outside the UK. Liverpool FC have over 300 outlets around the world selling only LFC merchandise. No other club in the world comes near. Yet Liverpool FC had nowhere near the success of other English clubs over the past 30 years. In the summer months cruise liners every other day disgorge thousands of foreign tourists wanting to see the city.
@JayIsWright
@JayIsWright Жыл бұрын
Hey Nick. Here’s a cool fact. After Seaforth & Litherland on the Northern line, There is a level crossing after each station.
@eddherring4972
@eddherring4972 2 жыл бұрын
Moorfields first floor entrance was built because there were plans to have elevated pedestrian walkways all around Liverpool but these plans didn’t happen. The elevation was dropped from the plans of Moorfields but the station had already been built.
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 2 жыл бұрын
Walkways in the Sky, the Curse of La Corbusier blighted all the major cities, you probably remember the really hideous contraption across the Gyratory next to the Royal Court Theatre. London has only just got rid of the ones along the Barbican. Hopefully the thing at Moorfields will be redeveloped and the situation sorted out. However, there is the Tithebarn Street entrance as well.
@eddherring4972
@eddherring4972 2 жыл бұрын
@@uingaeoc3905 Barbican was particularly hideous.
@northwesttrainspotting507
@northwesttrainspotting507 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I’m a really big PEP fan and it’s a shame that the 507s and 508s are being scrapped. I hope somebody preserves one of each of them. Also I have tonnes of footage of Merseyrail trains. I also saw the TfW trains at Birkenhead North Depot (TMD). Also know every Merseyrail station off by heart.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sad about the departure of the 507/8s too. They're really quite nostalgic for me. Fun story, I moved up to the North West from London when I was about 2 and I actually remember riding Merseyrail for the first time, and, because I was 2, I had no concept of moving places and different train systems yet, so I remember thinking "Huh, the trains are yellow now instead of red, blue and white. (i.e. The tube)" I also really loved, and well, I still do, the sound the traction motors make on the trains. No other train has been able to beat it yet, in my opinion! Anyway, yeah, their departure will be a sad one, for sure.
@northwesttrainspotting507
@northwesttrainspotting507 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBadley No, yeah completely agree traction motors are brill. It’s a slow gradual acceleration sound and it sounds awesome!
@deldirk7123
@deldirk7123 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great idea to explore secrets of the biggest electric network outside the South East to be on 3rd rail. It's the only one that I know of to survive, as the 3rd rail electric system in Tyne and Wear was decommissioned in the 1960's with the overhead electrified Metro opened there in the early 1980's. The Manchester - Bury line was 3rd rail but this was changed to overhead electric and incorporated in the tram system for Manchester, opened in the early 1990's
@1991Shablya
@1991Shablya Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick for video! And as for the Ukrainian railfan it was interesting to watch it.
@peterwhitaker4038
@peterwhitaker4038 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely Brilliant young man. i know the Merseyrail network well and this was fascinating. you researched well and presented well, with good editing all round. i wondered if you live local or just came from somewhere else to do this?
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I live fairly nearby to Merseyside so it isn't too much of a journey to visit the Merseyrail for me.
@iankingsleys2818
@iankingsleys2818 2 жыл бұрын
and at West Kirby, there was the adjacent joint station which ran along the coast to Neston and then via Hadlow Road to Hooton (closed in 1954) Now the Wirral Way Public footpath
@Samantharhylielloyd7652
@Samantharhylielloyd7652 2 жыл бұрын
I use to live on wirral and seeing again is crazy. but I live in port Glasgow now and the views are beautiful
@ezzbuttheyshouldntleavethe5529
@ezzbuttheyshouldntleavethe5529 2 жыл бұрын
honestly not surprised that little sutton is empty always, i live pretty close to that station and there's basically nothing to do there, other than a mccolls, and maybe a pub if you're lucky
@garyphisher7375
@garyphisher7375 Жыл бұрын
Always used the "secret" lift at Lime Street - when we bunked off school, we'd go to HMV and Probe Records - then to the Army and Navy stores. Using the lift meant we bypassed the ticket collectors thus getting a free ride.
@MikeGMcDermott
@MikeGMcDermott 2 жыл бұрын
Also originally the class 507s were usually confined to the Northern Line with the class 508s being usually confined to the Wirral Line but since the late 1990s both EMU classes have become intermixed on both these Merseyrail lines.
@ste-fitzgerald
@ste-fitzgerald Жыл бұрын
I thought Upton was the most unused station on Merseyrail. Great video by the way mate.
@InternationalEdward
@InternationalEdward Жыл бұрын
Upton is on the Borderlands Line which is operated by Transport for Wales rather than Merseyrail.
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 Жыл бұрын
I believe that The old Signal Box at Birkdale now has listed Building Status.
@MikeGMcDermott
@MikeGMcDermott 2 жыл бұрын
Also at James Street station is the junction where the spur connecting the Wirral Line with the Northern Line runs as this was the original route of the Wirral Railway from James Street into Liverpool Central prior to the opening of the Merseyrail Loop/Link system in 1977. This line is not used in normal service but it is used for stock transfers between the Wirral and Northern lines and vice-versa. Also of note is that the class 508s are the only EMUs to have served two different Waterloo stations - the Waterloo in London (between 1979 and 1984) and the Waterloo in Liverpool (from 1984 to the present).
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
The original 1800s tunnel from James St to Central is now largely a stock interchange tunnel as you mentioned. It was in passenger use until 1977. It is twin-track. *BUT!* where the tunnel meets the Northern Line tunnel (Link Line project), it is now down to one track as a large concrete support/wall was built on one of the tracks. This prevents the tunnel from being used for passengers. Dumb? Of course! But why? A line from the Wirral to Hunts X or South Parkway or even to the airport if a station is built could have been feasible. The heavy rumour was that the concrete was erected to curtail network expansion - more managed decline of Liverpool.
@ianhjan
@ianhjan 2 жыл бұрын
Before the Merseyrail days British Rail operated DMUs from the old central station to Gateacre via. Hunts Cross and the Halewood Triangle. You can still see this route on Google Maps as it is a Sustrans cycle way. I think the line used to go north up to Aintree and the docks. It handled a lot of steam hauled freight which went past my house both night and day.
@GD-ms7ut
@GD-ms7ut 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know why moorfields station has an escalated booking hall, it was part of the walkways in the sky from the 60s! Not sure if any of the walkways still exist today, I'm sure there will be information on internet for it. Great video 👍
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to think how the rail network compared to the Tram Network for competition. I think Liverpool Corporation may have been too hasty to withdraw trams, they went out quite a distance.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 2 жыл бұрын
Don't do yourself down so, Badders. That Marshall fella no doubt was your inspiration and top marks for crediting him. Nevertheless, you deserve more credit than you gave yourself in this production. As a TV insider, allow me to give you a couple of pointers: The 'cinematogeaphy' isn't far off ~ you got that beat, near as. Certainly for the moment. The editing isn't ½ bad either and keeping in things like the damn i've just missed it, wouldn't that have been great for the video if .. are nice touches of humanity which get polished out of most films to their detriment. They're priceless as they are instant links with your audience who've all experienced the same arrrgghhh! sensation. The sound ~ lose the bloody mike. Get a clip / tape it somewhere. It's an instant barrier between you and the viewer. Good luck with the next one and I share the encouraging to you setiment in the recent comments: Not enough time's spent at each place - and still you managed to tell a driver of thirty years standing new facts about his railway. There's three "more and more depth please" fillips for you to be chugging on with.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words! And yes I do agree, the mic does kinda suck. I'm getting a new one when I can as I do hate that I have to hold it up. And yeah the depth too, I understand. I kinda traded off depth for getting more stuff in one video. But nonetheless, thank you very much!
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
This comment alone has made me begin trying to get a new mic, 😂
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBadley Great. Best of luck.
@nicolasblume1046
@nicolasblume1046 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! Geoff looks different in this one 🤔
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, can't you tell? I've had a significant makeover! A nice three decade de-aging. Came with the side effect of the fact I now require glasses, but oh well! - Definitely Geoff
@DIEMLtdTV
@DIEMLtdTV 2 жыл бұрын
Good video....all for the price of a day saver ticket!
@MARTINEDWARDSVIDEOS
@MARTINEDWARDSVIDEOS 2 жыл бұрын
You missed out the faded London Underground Roundel on the side of the building just outside of Sandhills on the left heading towards Southport.
@ste-fitzgerald
@ste-fitzgerald 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Can you do a video on the City Line please and tell us about Allerton Station now replaced by South Park Way. It was also the the home of South Liverpool Football club. There is a West Allerton and Mosley Hill stations too. What is the City Line all about?
@chriswood1661
@chriswood1661 9 ай бұрын
Good video, however I wish you had took a bit more time to talk about the Water Street tunnel. It’s such a quirky and unique part of the network and real time capsule.
@longbranchmike7846
@longbranchmike7846 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative & interesting! Would've loved more footage & description of the disused platforms and stations, like you did with the station closed for Liverpool Parkway station. Also the fast forward walking segments give me a headache.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Noted, shan't do them in the future.
@Bond2025
@Bond2025 9 ай бұрын
Is there a cross sectional map of the loop line showing how deep the different platforms are in Liverpool and which streets they go under? I never knew about the Water Street exit until I had to use it one day due to work at the station. I needed a rest when I got to the top. It would be interesting to see where it goes from and the angle and why it was built. Are there any other exits? I also remember in the 70s that there was a department store in Liverpool that had it's own access to a train station from the basement or lifts to a platform. Does anyone remember this or which shop it was? Any pictures or video of it? Royal Mail still have access to the line for post.
@KirkNorthrop
@KirkNorthrop Жыл бұрын
Great video! Just wondering if you are sure that the escalator was turned into a staircase? In the 60s and 70s, London Underground didn't install some escalators because of the cost (both of electricity and machinery), and installed stairs instead. These have then (in some cases) been retroactively fitted with escalators because they were designed that way.
@expatexpat6531
@expatexpat6531 2 жыл бұрын
Merseyrail is a great network. If my memory serves me correctly, the trains in the 60s used to have the old manually opened doors (extend arm out through drop-down window and then twist door handle), first and 2nd class compartments, and string nets acting as the luggage racks. It was a great shame when Exchange Station closed.
@IanDarley
@IanDarley Жыл бұрын
I remember going in those old slam-door carriages when I was a small child in the early seventies (Southport line).
@expatexpat6531
@expatexpat6531 Жыл бұрын
@@IanDarley Yes, "slam-door" captures the character of the doors.
@dave_h_8742
@dave_h_8742 2 жыл бұрын
didn't bother going to Ormskirk then and also missed saying about the possibility of a connection to Wigan and one possibly to Skelmasdale from Kirkby's new station at headbolt lane. A part two on the cards in the future ? you could add about the war horses at Lathom Hall for WW1. Good video well presented and edited.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 2 жыл бұрын
Part 2 has literally finished filming today! Should be coming soon.
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