Mottingham to Nottingham - Point to Point

[@thetflthree]

My condolences about the 465. Also, I like that we’re basically Nick’s official London partners at this point! ~ Daniel

[@richardbutler4488]

He certainly gives you the plugs 🔌 so that’s certainly a good start plus let’s go 😊

[@planeguy7777]

Cheeseman

[@PamelaBane]

You three are South Eastern contributors to Nick's video, Jen on the Move is the contributor of the North, I enjoy all of your content, many thanks.

[@andrewbeadle9168]

465 = better seats! 707 = ironing boards

[@planeguy7777]

mhm@@andrewbeadle9168

[@torspedia]

Next time you're in SE London, you can do Catford to Catford Bridge as a pointless journey, especially as you can't buy a ticket between the two as Geoff Marshall discovered... that might be a nice collab, between the two of you! 🙂

[@DanBen07]

Yeah he should also do Bromley South to Bromley North.

[@simonsv9449]

@torspedia That would go via Nunhead and Lewisham.

[@simonsv9449]

@@DanBen07You’d go via Pett’s Wood and Grove Park for that one.

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

What about Waterloo to Waterloo East without walking between them!

[@DanBen07]

@@Clivestravelandtrains Good.

[@SuttonTransportHub]

Got a few suggestions: Sutton to Sutton Parkway or Sutton Coldfield Three Oaks to Four Oaks Preston to Preston Park Newport (South Wales) to Newport (Essex) Southfields to Northfield

[@DanLoudShirts]

Can’t believe you didn’t go via Cottingham!

[@chriswinter6672]

Now that's a great idea. I used to travel between Nottingham and Cottingham quite a lot in the early 1980s.

[@NickBadley]

Would definitely be up for a form of redux later on!

[@Toasted_IQ]

@@NickBadleycan you do manchester victoria line to manchester victoria but in a really complicated form? i’d love it if you do

[@TLJOHN2007]

A couple of suggestions for more of these point to points. Gillingham (kent)-Gillingham (dorset), Milford (surrey) - Milford Haven (Pembrokeshire), Rainham (kent) - Rainham (essex), Newport (essex) - Newport (Wales)

[@Eurobrasil550]

Could the Rainham Kent /Rainham Essex journey include travel via the (previously railway owned) Gravesend /Tilbury Ferry?

[@villageorganist]

Chichester (Sussex) to Chichester (Tyne & Wear)…..

[@IamIncognito46]

Hayes (West London) to Hayes (Kent) too

[@t0by_is_the_best]

Hartford (Cheshire) to Hertford (Hertfordshire)

[@ReecesTrains]

Definitely sounds fun going point to point again! Great video! Looking forward to seeing more soon!

[@Ro99]

3:48 I wish the low level platform were connected to the Undeground station without having to go upstairs and then back down

[@Nooticus]

THIS!!!!! I’ve been seriously wondering why this couldn’t be the case. Reason being I expect that they need two gatelines between the two, for people travelling on Thameslink to outside London. But even still, they could definitely do it. I personally believe it is one of the most needed small-scale additions to the whole of London’s network right now.

[@jacksebsmith]

@@Nooticus Not neccesarily. Waterloo East has a dedicated internal connection to Southwark Jubilee line with two gatelines seperating the two stations

[@Nooticus]

@@jacksebsmith I literally just agreed with you though.. "but even still, they could definitely do it"

[@rbrwr]

I had a training session at work a few months ago and the trainer's journey home was, genuinely, Stroud to Strood.

[@NickBadley]

Hah! 😆

[@chiefpred9982]

5:39 the reason is because the EMR connect services run non-stop from St Pancras Straight into Luton Airport Parkway, acting as an express service, so EMR promote it as Luton Airport Express.

[@Nooticus]

Correct , but only since the opening of the Luton DART

[@Sim0nTrains]

Dylan in this one makes it up for not being in the last video lol (Class 730 video) But a great point to point as you finally got to ride on a Class 222.

[@westmidlandstransport]

nice to see Dylan from the TfL Three and nice that you got to ride the MML for the first time! Great video, Nick, as always! :)

[@ReubenAshwell]

Brilliant video Nick, nice to see this video includes the one route I've been down many times because it's my local route, the Midland Main line. Nottingham is a place that I always enjoy visiting. :)

[@MercenaryPen]

in the interest of things that sound the same, we needed a longer change so we could seek out catering at Kettering

[@AngelWedge]

Nice coincidence that this came out today, when I've just arrived in Nottingham :) And am trying to pick somewhere interesting to go tomorrow.

[@Diamond-Star5official]

I just thought about an idea for Point to Point: Adlington (Ches) to Adlington (Lancs) Also, I love this series (and the pointless Journeys too)!

[@donovanemery597]

GLovesTrains has done that recently, I think

[@jacobporrett]

I used to live in Wellingborough and back then it was Midland Mainline HST'S in that green livery. Occasionally a virgin HST as well.

[@TransportVloggerIan]

1:18 Yeah the 707s are either on the Cannon Street circulars OR out of Charing Cross heading for Dartford or Gravesend, well, they were last time when I went down there in August unless they have now switched diagrams again

[@MrGamingMan928]

Suggestion - Portsmouth Harbour to Portsmouth Arms also, love the video!

[@TTravel.Adventures]

Here are the station that sound the same that I know There is Stevenage (North of London, England) to Steventon (Ayrshire, Scotland) There is also Johnstone (Renfrewshire, Scotland) to Johnstone (Pembrokeshire, Wales) Fantastic videos

[@philipduong2085]

Gillingham (Kent) and Gillingham (Dorset) as well

[@philipduong2085]

Oh right, I didn't know that @ChilternTransportProductions

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

It's Stevenston, or the town of Steven as is evident from the bilingual station signs.

[@punkemoandy]

If you want to try mainline to heritage, Sheffield to Sheffield Park can change from mainline to heritage at East Grinstead :)

[@bl.jackkk3231]

This would be a cool one to see. Gillingham (Kent) - Gillingham (Dorset) I may even be able to join for part of it lol

[@michellebell5092]

Coincidentally, Someone suggested this “railway connection “ to me on,y yesterday. So well done you beat me to it.

[@Going-Full-Circle]

Another great video. You are great on camera and have great knowledge with what you do. It's always good to share your hobbies we other people.

[@quintuscrinis]

Great video as always, the MML is quite beuatiful (Luton notwithstanding) used to use it as an alternative to getting the East Coast from Leeds to London when I was a student. Pointless journey idea between the Dorchesters (avoiding Weymouth). Or point to point Appleby to Appsley?

[@SuttonTransportHub]

Brilliant video Nick, great to see you alongside the TFL three again, despite only Dylan, enjoyed this one a lot!

[@camerondent9390]

One that would be fun to see (at least for me), would be Clapham - Clapham, via Clapham, Clapham, Clapham, and Clapham Visit every Clapham TFL station before going to Clapham (North Yorks)

[@paultidd9332]

Great video, track scratching is always good and lots of variety of rolling stock too!

[@HesterClapp]

Welling to Wellingborough next? ;)

[@connorgeorge6294]

Video 2 of pushing Portsmouth Harbour/& Southsea - Portsmouth Arms in Devon. Would be quite the adventure

[@MaxBarnish]

Most of my journeys growing in that area were 465/6 and I always liked them, though some seem to have been refurbished and aren't as nice. It's the 376 I don't like. You could have made it even more fun by going via Cottingham!

[@bashgaming591]

Hey Nick. I have a good point to point idea. You could you Buxton to Cuxton?

[@iXBiiGSteve]

As someone from Sheffield who visits London a lot, a point to point idea I have is “Shenfield” to “Sheffield”. Every time I see an Elizabeth Line train to “Shenfield” my brain always reads it as “Sheffield”! 😂

[@shaunhouse8469]

Have you done Gillingham (soft "G") Kent to Gillingham (hard "G") Dorset yet?

[@LBfootball2]

Great video Nick 👍 I think another good ‘point to point’ would be Ashford (Kent) to Ashford (Surrey)

[@aviationtrainsfc1]

Nice! Can't wait for more

[@fuun17]

May I suggest East India DLR to West India Quay DLR via walking between Catford and Catford Bridge with Geoff :-) 3:44 It would be interesting if you film RER stations. Love your videos as always.

[@kapage74]

Having recently done St Pancras to Nottingham, both outbound and return journeys were absolutely rammed for the duration of the trips, you were lucky to get a seat at Market Harborough

[@peterplus6859]

How about Ford to Vauxhall? Controversial for a train channel

[@nathantozer2554]

I vote for seeing Keyham to Keynsham or vice versa!

[@MichaelSebastianTodd]

brilliant vlog

[@kimpossibleyescruelladevil4960]

You should do Ashford Kent to Ashford Surrey as a point to point episode

[@LordEverythingtrains]

You should go from Gloucester, the station with the longest platform at over 600m, to Beauly at 15m.

[@quintuscrinis]

That would be one hell of a journey. Also a lot of voyagers if you go the direct way.

[@rockerjim8045]

longest platform in Britain is at Cheriton on the Le Shuttle services 750m

[@acfbrown1]

There's quite a few train journeys between stations with similar names that can be done such as Burneside to Burnside, Wilmcote to Wilnecote etc as well as the obvious examples of identically named stations such as Adlington to Adlington which the likes of Glovestrains have done.

[@johnwhitfield4361]

Your Nottingham train at Kettering was late because it was probably running behind your late running EMR Connect (which uses the fast lines most of the way to Kettering).

[@russmcarthur]

Nice Video! How about going from Hayes (Kent) to Hayes & Harlington to Harlington (Bedfordshire)?

[@jacksebsmith]

Both stations are in Greater London now and have been since 1965. Hayes only still uses (Kent) in brackets for historical reasons to differentiate the two, with Hayes & Harlington previously being in Middlesex prior to 1965. It was never in Bedforshire, Harlington singular is though.

[@SamsVlogstrainsmore]

Great vlog Nick, I’ve visited Nottingham before but not Mottingham.

[@giannihallett4951]

Great video never heard of mottingham

[@DanBen07]

I've looked at a lot of Southeast London train maps over the years and I didn't remember this one.

[@Nooticus]

Excellent series :)

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

Point-To-Point suggestion Ryde to Rye? Dont rag on the 465s with the old motors but the 465/9 feel free lol

[@suchcone]

Meridians are Voyagers that have gone to therapy and dealt with and overcome their flaws, bettering themselves in the process.

[@TrainspottingTrio]

Do Radcliffe(Nottinghamshire) to Radcliffe(Greater Manchester) My local station is Radcliffe(Notts) so on my channel, there are some videos from there.

[@TPtyla]

Nice to see you on my local trains I live in sidcup

[@donovanemery597]

West Kirkby to Kirkby (all Merseyrail) as a point to point suggestion

[@ahuman9143]

We need a Redbridge(London) to Redbridge(Southampton) or a Cromford to Romford journey

[@quintuscrinis]

Isn't Redbridge (London) a Borough rather than a station?

[@ahuman9143]

@@quintuscrinis there is a station on that circle part of the central line called redbridge

[@MaidaValeTom]

@@quintuscrinis It's a station on the Central Line too, Same situation with Greenwich (borough) and Greenwich (station), along with Westminster, Hillingdon, etc.

[@stanmarsh14]

Greetings from Long Eaton (LGE), smack bang between Derby (DBY) / Nottingham (NOT). Done the MML many times, along with the split ticketing (I'll be doing this again in a weeks time), which normally split (For me anyway), at East Mids Parkway, a v short 7 mins run from LGE, however now I see the splits happening at Market Harborough, and making use of the Corby Connect services..... weekends, often found I can get two CDR tickets from LGE to STP, with a split at Market Harborough, which means long as the respective services stop here, can come / go as you please, no need for bookable advance singles, which have not been a massive deal cheaper.

[@ArjunanVTech12]

Some more Point to Points are Ashford (Surrey) to Ashford International (Kent). Kingston to Kings Lynn. Leicester to Leicester Square.

[@FinnMaclennan]

do Southampton to Northampton ( i wonder which is quicker via london or Birmingham)

[@Anonymoususer_8823]

London I think plus you can pick up the Northern Line from Waterloo to Euston via Charing Cross.

[@chiefpred9982]

Another really good vid mate

[@ADAMEDWARDS17]

Re Luton Airport Express. My experience as a commuter on Thameslinas is that most Luton Airport passengers are not major rail users, so on Friday evenings my stopper from Hendon to St Albans was full of passengers who got on as the train said Luton as the final destination even though the Bedford trains are faster, and were then getting stressed by the slow journey. So I am guessing EMR make those announcements to reassure people they are on the correct train and not heading for Leicester non stop. Also the LAE service is linked to the DART shuttle up to the airport to provide a 30 min service from St Pancras to the Airport. You'll have a to do an All the London Airport stations in one day video as an excuse to ride the DART. (Don't forget Southend Airport, that's 6 airports to do.)

[@Andrewjg_89]

What about Gillingham (Kent) to Gillingham (Dorset), Rainham (East London) to Rainham (Kent), Liss to Diss, Alresford (Hampshire) to Alresford (Essex), Woking to Wokingham or Dorking and Newport (South Wales) to Newport (Essex).

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

....followed by a bus ride to Newport-on-Tay

[@Thornaby37]

Great video Nick 👍 I totally agree with you about the confusing announcements on the EMR class 360s. Luton is an awful town with an awful station

[@matthewbartlett1977]

A thought for another Point to Point video, How about Redbridge Underground Station on the Central Line to Redbridge National Rail Station in Southampton.

[@danlastname9002]

Here's an idea inspired by someone's comment about Catford to Catford Bridge... OSIs by rail. For example, Southwark (Jubilee) to Waterloo via Waterloo East. Both Waterloo and Southwark are connected to Waterloo East by pedestrian routes, so how about trying to connect them via rail? Obviously that's quite a boring example, but if you could find any more triple-station OSIs, that'd be pretty interesting. Canary Wharf to Canary Wharf via Canary Wharf would be spectacular!

[@Anonymoususer_8823]

Perhaps you should do Liss to Diss in your next video if possible. Nottingham and Mottingham does rhyme. Are there any other places that have names that rhyme exactly the same.

[@jasperjenkin6645]

Point to point reccomend action, new Malden to malden

[@robertrawley1115]

Nick, what was the Cost in lost time with the split ticket? And, what was the $$ Saved by using the split ticket purchase? Was the saving at least 20%? Thanks for the ride along. It was interesting to see the variety of EMR moquettes!

[@TrainsWithEthan]

Point to point: Stratford-Upon-Avon to Stratford international

[@johntauren]

I just glanced at the wikipedia list of stations for a bit, so here's some fun ones: Alexandra Palace (London) to Alexandra Parade (Glasgow) Castleton (Manchester) to Castleton Moor (N Yorkshire) Church Fenton (N Yorkshire) to Church Stretton (Shropshire) Johnston (Pembrookshire) to Johnstone (Renfrewshire) Stone (Staffordshire) to Stone Crossing (Kent) Whitchurch (Cardiff, Hampshire, and Shropshire) Abbey Wood (London) to Ystrad Rhondda (Wales) (alphabetically, first to last)

[@theburritoo]

You could do Portsmouth hourbour to Portsmouth arms

[@tubetrainboy]

What about: St. James Park T&W - St. James Park (LU) Newport (Essex) - Newport (Wales) Gillingham (Kent) - Gillingham (Dorset) Chichester (T&W) - Chichester (NR)

[@sophiaevans9908]

You definitely need to do Buxton to Cuxton after this

[@josephredford3880]

Could have gone from Mottingham to Nottingham to Cottingham in a day

[@DanBen07]

Pointless journey SE London: Bromley south to Bromley North. Point to point London Waterloo to Waterloo merseyrail. Point to point Bank underground to Warrington Bank Quay. I'm not sure there are any other bank train stations. Point to point London Road Brighton to London Road Guildford.

[@PiousMoltar]

Wow I'd never even heard of Mottingham!

[@DanBen07]

No I've looked at a lot of train maps of South East London over the years and I just didn't remember that one.

[@aaronlegg1702]

Would love to see Woking to Wokingham but feels way too close to do, but there is loads of routes you could do

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Gillingham Kent to Gillingham Dorset? Newport Gwent to Newport Salop (or Newport IOW)? Bradford West Yorkshire to Bradford (on Avon) BANES (that is BAth and North East Somerset!)?

[@N30-JLI]

I'm fan of trains but keep up with your video mate 👍

[@H4RL3Y448]

Could you do Hackney to Hinckley next?

[@johnrafferty8087]

Been waiting for this one

[@billmilligan1705]

Amazing fact Nottingham is still legally part of Scotland thanks to a 1584 treaty. Also how about a race to see who can do the fastest pointless journey from Charing Cross to Charing Cross as a colab

[@grahamwhitworth9454]

Do you mean from Charing Cross, London, to Charing Cross, Glasgow?

[@elizabethmh_465]

think so​@@grahamwhitworth9454

[@grahamcutress47]

The 1st on the class 360s isn't actually 1st any longer! The 2+2 seating in 1st is much nicer

[@Brtitishrailwayzuk]

Hi nick I love your videos

[@LiftFan]

Another suggestion- Queen's Park (London) to Queen's Park (Glasgow)

[@simonsv9449]

Are we gonna get Brighton to New Brighton in the future? Or Hayes to Hayes & Harlington?

[@MrBobSter82]

2:46 OMG STEPFORD EAST

[@cj-br9mq]

Good video nick

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

Wokingham to Woking would be a good point to point journey video.

[@quintuscrinis]

Or Workington to Wokingham?

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

@quintuscrinis8032 Woking to Wokingham would be cheaper and quicker than Workington to Wokingham or Woking.

[@networkerfan]

next you should do Welling to Welwyn Garden City

[@thetransporthub]

You can't diss a 465, far better than the other SE metro stock, and worlds better than 700s!

[@JeSuisRene]

I had a negative first experience with the 465… the train smelled of urine and the seat I chose was particularly cold. Still miles better than the 376s though, and the 465/9s aren’t bad at all.

[@trainman86trainstramsandmore]

I agree. Never travelled on one but they sound and look good. Myabe the interiors might be a bit shabby as I have seen on the Tfl three but still better than the 700 easily. 700 is a hideous thing and the seats look like ironing boards

[@LoneSheWolf09]

I liked going on 465s whether was in London or London to Cambridge. Miss going on them

[@epislog178]

How about Shoreham-By-Sea to Shoreham (Kent)

[@yuritrainspotting]

Point to point idea: Shenfield to Sheffield

[@TransportFan2003]

The email 360s are nice but it's very confusing as the luton airport express brand is interviewed with the existing connect brand as its the same trip but they just have 2 brands for the same service pretty much

[@Aidankiwi]

Well how does Charing Cross (Glasgow) to London Charing Cross sound as a challenge?

[@Aidankiwi]

To make it more interesting - only national rail services permitted.

[@TheTrainiac377]

You gotta do the two Berwicks dude, that would be pretty damn cool!

[@DanBen07]

Do you meen Berwick-upon-Tweed & Berwick a small village in East Sussex?

[@HSTHoward]

@@DanBen07Yes

[@DanBen07]

@@HSTHoward I've gone past Berwick East Sussex on the train lots of times.

[@HSTHoward]

@@DanBen07 Same for me but both ones.

[@TheTrainiac377]

@@DanBen07 Yeah, one’s south of the Scottish border the other is on the East Coastway

[@driverdoozer]

Another 1 letter difference, Davenport to Devonport

[@harrierjames7727]

Could have changed the letter again and ventured up to Cottingham, too!

[@officialmcdeath]

Only issue with split ticketing is there's no opportunity for banter with conductors \m/

[@fynnjones8742]

An idea for point to point: monument (tyne and wear) to monument (underground)

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

More original than some of the others!

[@swtransport099]

I think you should do Farnham to Barnham, they sound pretty similar

[@jonnystrains]

bromley south to bromley north