Sydenham to Sydenham Hill - Pointless Journeys

Been a bit since the last Pointless Journey! Here we are with another London-y one! From Sydenham on the London Overground, to Sydenham Hill, served by Southeastern!
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[@dougdougsnacks]

IDEA: Travel from the Alphabetically 1st station to the last one.

[@Lexzim9098]

Abbey Wood at the end of the Elizabeth Line to Ystrad Rhondda in Wales

[@tag2412]

They could go to Paddington from Abbey Wood, and then get a train into Wales and use TFW for the rest of the journey.

[@NickBadley]

Abbey Wood to Ystrad Rhondda, I'm guessing?

[@dougdougsnacks]

@@NickBadley probably yeah 😅 sorry, I am from Hungary and obsessed w/ trains

[@Iestyncompton18]

You'll have to wait until at least February since the Rhondda line is currently closed for metro upgrades

[@robbiemorrison7085]

Good one also Dorking to Dorking Deepdene

[@JoeTW67]

2:44 you should make a series visiting abandoned platforms and look at their past and what they were used for.

[@goldenboat9106]

The unadvertised stop at Selhurst is fairly normal on most Saturday afternoons, to deter people from using Selhurst station when Crystal Palace FC are playing at home due to the fact it cant handle large crowds

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

I once went to a wedding in London, and it was interesting listening to all the London people at the reception saying "How did you get here?" with replies like "We changed at Wimbledon onto the District Line" then - "Really, how interesting, how long did it take?" After property prices, it seemed the second most popular thing Londoners talk about is how to get from A to B. (The reception was in Chiswick btw).

[@Nooticus]

lol i love doing this :3 its so nerdy and fun

[@ordinaryorca9334]

Maybe you could go from Waterloo (Merseyside) to Waterloo (Belgium) possibly via Waterloo station in London. Thought it'd be cool

[@diyaaldeen1097]

I never even knew there wasa waterloo station in merseyside and belgium

[@ordinaryorca9334]

@@diyaaldeen1097 All the places named Waterloo are named after the battle of Waterloo, named after the Belgian town of Waterloo nearby. As a town of 30000 it of course warranted a station.

[@Teesbrough]

This great little video brought back some good memories for Christmas! Back in the early 1980s I lived close to East Croydon. I moved to Sydenham in 1987, then near Sydenham Hill in 2000 (my closest station would have been Crystal Palace [High Level] which was built to be even grander than the surviving Low Level station) and finally to Manchester in 2019. When living at Sydenham in pre-Oystercard and Overground days, Penge East was at the other end of my road. I tried applying for an annual season from Penge East to Penge West via London Terminals. Sadly, the answer was no. There are, of course, several pointless journey opportunities between Sydenham and Sydenham Hill. The expert track-basher’s one, if you time it right, is Sydenham-Crystal Palace/Norwood Junction-Streatham Hill-Tulse Hill-Herne Hill-Sydenham Hill. Or you could do what most people do and take the 450 bus. 😁 Merry Christmas and Happy travels in 2024!

[@grahamcutress47]

As far as I recall, the unadvertised stop at Selhurst is due to it dropping and picking up of staff from the nearby Selhurst Depot

[@136ctrh]

and the overtime ban meaning that on Saturdays Southern ran the "RMT strike" level of service so because of football overcrowding they closed Selhurst that day.

[@willmill82]

Ahh, Sydenham, my hometown. +1 for the missed opportunity to have included Lower Sydenham, which could have been done by a further train from Sydenham Hill to Kent House, short walk to Clock House, then two more stops to Lower Sydenham

[@astropenguin7]

Dorking (main) to Dorking Deepdene

[@tommarshall1660]

Ah, the three musketeers are in train mood again. Hope you all have a wonderful Christmas especially you Nick, for coming up with all these "pointless" ideas.

[@NickBadley]

Three musketeers, I like that! Merry Christmas to you too!

[@fussyboy2000]

Now do Sydenham NIR - Sydenham NR. You missed out going via Sutton, or changing at Birkbeck for the train into Beckenham Junction.

[@ccityplanner1217]

A year ago, there used to be one train each weekday of the London Bridge - Caterham via Streatham 75 that went non-stop from Streatham Common to Selhurst, skipping Norbury and Thornton Heath. I went on the last run of this to be operated with a class 455, & the driver out of habit stopped at Norbury anyway, and someone got on & asked me where the train was going. The driver then realised he was supposed to be the fast service & skipped Thornton Heath.

[@AFCManUk]

Pssst! Nat....blink hard twice if you're there against your will, lol :D

[@JBMtravels]

Mate you are at my local train stations..... I love your channel and content. Keep up the great work 💪

[@NickBadley]

Thanks!

[@MrPsDJServices]

Blackhorse Road To Blackhorse Lane Or Woolwich to Woolwich Arsenal (50 meters apart from each other)😊

[@ReubenAshwell]

Brilliant video Nick and brilliant to see Coastway Will in this as well. Lol, I've found Croydon to be quite tame everytime I've visited there.

[@qwertyTRiG]

There's also a Sydenham in Belfast, if you want to go there!

[@SpudderRail]

the 3 musketeers are back 😂

[@victorpalmer-cole6533]

Can you please do a a pointless journey from waterloo to waterloo east?

[@laurafisher8095]

Love it❤❤❤❤❤

[@Clivestravelandtrains]

Sid in a mill.

[@Nooticus]

Great route from Will, though I expected you might've done Balham, northern line to stockwell, victoria line to brixton, then southeastern to sydenham hill!

[@CoastwayWill]

My brief was "Pointless Journey in South London that involves trams". I think I did a reasonable job despite the long connections 😂

[@Nooticus]

@@CoastwayWill ahhhh that makes sense! and you did a great job!

[@davejoey]

Great video as usual Nick. Maybe you could do a Pointless journey for Chester (Merseyrail) - Chester (Transport for Wales)

[@nigelkthomas9501]

The first step of your journey from Sydenham to Crystal Palace used to be very difficult at one time. Only a token peak hour service used to use that line.

[@willmill82]

Not only that, but to get from Crystal Palace to Sydenham on the once-a-day doodah back then, you had to use the now abandoned platform!

[@nigelkthomas9501]

@@willmill82 I didn’t know that. When I finally managed to score that line it was a London Bridge - London Bridge circular service.

[@willmill82]

@@nigelkthomas9501 that sounds about right - Connex South Central started the more regular services on the Sydenham to Crystal Palace spur, from memory I think they changed it to the London Bridge to Victoria service, might be wrong

[@nigelkthomas9501]

@@willmill82 I remember doing it in both directions to get both alignments at Sydenham!

[@JoeTW67]

For a Point to Point, you could do Skipton to Shipton.

[@NickBadley]

Good one!

[@OfficialGTV]

Pointless journeys ideas: Dovey Junction - Dovey Junction (it’s possible on a TfW map) Blackpool North - Blackpool South Birmingham New Street - Moor Street or Snow Hill Manchester Piccadilly (Railway) - Piccadilly (Metrolink) Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Victoria (no direct TPE allowed) Point to Point ideas: Charing Cross (London) to Charing Cross (Glasgow) Newtown Powys to New Mills Newtown

[@quintuscrinis]

Great ideas. If I might add some extra ideas: Sudbury Hill (Pic tube) to Sudbury Hill Harrow (Chiltern) - pointless. Or Sudbury (Sussex) to Sudbury Town (TFL) - PTP. Victoria (Manchester) to Victoria (London) - PTP. Or Appleby to Apsley.

[@Thornaby37]

There are so many railway routes criss-crossing each other in London, the possibilities for pointless journeys are almost endless

[@kentonfisher3190]

You could have done a first in this series and linked THREE stations. There is a third Sydenham, Lower Sydenham on the Hayes line. Also seeing you call at at Beckenham Junction you could go from there to New Beckenham

[@rogersanderson1725]

This could also be a trilogy if you add Beckenham Hill

[@mattevans4377]

Alternative title: Where there's a Will, there's a way.

[@CoastwayWill]

There were many ways with me planning it! 😂

[@rikufryderyk]

Welcome back to London again, Nick!

[@CelticGoals]

It's funny how many different ways you could do this Easiest being go to penge West and walk to penge east Or crystal palace to Beckenham to sydenham Hill or sydenham to crystal palace to Tulse Hill to Herne Hill (which would allow some class 700 action) to Sydenham Hill, i can think of about 10 other ways too

[@muskratmik]

An enjoyable video: thanks. It would be an interesting challenge to visit all three Pontefract stations in one journey 😊

[@adamlawrence-slater9848]

There’s a Sydenham station in Sydney Australia

[@eugenedonaghy1]

One in Belfast

[@Liam-js6di]

You could have skipped Balham and West Croydon and got the direct train from Crystal Palace to Beckenham Junction. Lots of route combinations possible in South London!

[@InkItOut]

I think on the day we did it there were rail replacement buses there 😅

[@Liam-js6di]

@@InkItOut makes sense plus you got the joy of seeing more bits of South London!

[@danlastname9002]

Once again asking for Canary Wharf to Canary Wharf via Canary Wharf.

[@paulmayhook8755]

New Cross to New Cross Gate Camden Road to Camden Town Edgware Road (Bakerloo) to Edgware Road (Circle and District) Hammersmith (Hammersmith & City) to Hammersmith (Piccadilly and District) Bethnal Green (Central) to Bethnal Green (Overground) Harringay to Harringay Green Lanes

[@quintuscrinis]

Great video as always - great team as well. Shame about the strikes because as you say there are some wonderful options in London, strikes permitting. All the Ruislips, Ealings and Actons. As well as the Wembleys and Sudburys can be very confusing. Even the three Watfords.

[@Bruhmomentum-0010]

Your channel is unique, but you make lovely content 🙂 keep up the great work!

[@jacobporrett]

Thank you for sharing Nick.

[@danielhanley-thurkettle8904]

Have a Happy Christmas and a Happy New Year

[@ashbridgeindustries]

Here to ask again for St Budeaux Victoria Road to St Budeaux Ferry Road. The two stations run parallel to each other and are separated by an embankment just 20 metres wide. You can walk from one station to the other in less than a minute. The only downside is that the next station along, Keyham, is also close by, so it would be a very short video...

[@SouthernRailSpotter]

Point To Point Ideas: Berwick (Sussex) to Berwick upon tweed Sheffield Park (Bluebell Railway) to Sheffield Pointless Journey Ideas: Porthmadog (F&WHR) to Porthmadog Shepards Bush (Central Line) to Shepards Bush Oxford to Oxford Parkway (the long way round) Bicester to Bicester Village (the long way round) You should also possibly try out some Steam action on the Mainline, or travel on one of the tours.

[@aviamonix]

Great video, seeing your channel grow has been a real treat, though I’ve never really commented before.

[@chunkyboyjames]

Had you used the side exit from the platform you arrived at West Croydon on, you’d have made the first Beckenham Junction tram, and then not had to run to catch that last train.

[@mildlydispleased3221]

There's also Lower Sydenham nearby, in the area you can also find Beckenham Road, Beckenham Junction, Beckenham hill and New Beckenham.

[@Gregdotgreg]

There's loads of stations all within walking distance of each other in that part of London to change between different lines

[@Foxy_AR]

You should do Stratford International (DLR) - Stratford International (national rail)

[@officialmcdeath]

Opportunity for bonus round missed: taking the most extreme and direct walking route back to your starting point, up Low Cross Wood Lane and along Wells Park Road, you'd've passed the site of the former Sydenham Wells Station on the old Crystal Palace High Level route - not really one for a winter's night though \m/

[@europeantransportspotting]

I have a good pointless journey in London Sudbury hill Harrow and Sudbury hill ( Piccadilly line) they both have a walk between station's

[@melbutterworth7976]

All the london in this video reminded me you could do Dalston (Cumbria) to Dalston Junction as part of the point to point series

[@stevenevans7872]

Brilliant video

[@kevanhubbard9673]

You could try Catford to Catford Bridge around south London too although they have loads of them like that.

[@northern-class_331]

Next time in London you should do Catford - Catford Bridge (I have a feeling you were going to do it anyway but train strikes ruined it)

[@SWTR11]

when the proposed Cambourne station opens, you can do a pointless journey (or a point-to point) from Camborne to Cambourne

[@NickBadley]

Will keep that in mind 😉

[@rogersanderson1725]

But not on a Wednesday as the train don't stop Cambourne Wednesday, just ask Jethro!!

[@ThomasRBXOfficial]

Idea - West Croydon to East Croydon (no, you cant use the trams)

[@rogersanderson1725]

Via Epsom Downs & Tattenham Corner is quite an interesting way to do it

[@chiefpred9982]

East Croydon - West Croydon (no trams)

[@lukeainley9528]

You should do Bradford Interchange to Bradford Forster Square

[@danielhanley-thurkettle8904]

I love going on trains I'll travel to Scotland just for a day

[@andydaly6586]

Have you ever tried Catford to Catford Bridge? 2 stations literally next door to each other but not connected.

[@Howezy]

You should try Southend Victoria to Southend Central if you get the chance. One is at the top of the high street and the other in the centre of it, but to go by train you have to go via London Overground or the Tube.

[@Thornaby37]

Southend Victoria to Southend Central can be done entirely by National Rail Southend Victoria - Shenfield - Romford- Upminster - Southend Central, or Southend Victoria - Stratford - Gospel Oak - Barking - Southend Central

[@Howezy]

If you count London Overground as National Rail then Yes. Both require Overground (Romford - Upminster or Stratford-Gospel Oak and GO - Barking are both Overground). Similarly Stratford - West Ham then West Ham via Jubilee Line then WH to SC is also viable.

[@Brtitishrailwayzuk]

Amazing video! Idea: east croydon tram to east Croydon train or the other way around

[@CelticGoals]

Surprisingly easy, tram to Wimbledon. Wimbledon to Clapham Clapham to east Croydon as the quickest probably Or tram to elmers end or Beckenham junction then Train to Victoria then Victoria to ecr

[@Brtitishrailwayzuk]

Oh ok@@CelticGoals

[@Andrewjg_89]

I don’t know why that there is a disused platform at Crystal Palace that could have been used for London Overground or Southern trains. I have been to Crystal Palace. And as Southern got rid of the Class 455 they have allowed more Class 377s on the suburban services. And Southern could have ordered new trains that would have been used on the suburban services in and around South London.

[@officialmcdeath]

Upside is the influx of de facto declassified First Class sections on some services, bit of pot luck for you there \m/

[@Group51]

Lovely. My local stations. An easier journey to get mad trains between than actually walking between. Really super steep hill up from Sydenham Hill Station. (which is deep in the valley). More ridiculous than this would be Catford to Catford Bridge.

[@CelticGoals]

I used to live on the Kingswood Estate (those stairs from the back of the estate to the station were killer) and yeah when we'd go sydenham it would either be get the 450 or get the train from sydenham hill to penge east and bus from there or walk to penge West and get the train

[@stephenclark9917]

"Balham, gateway to the South".

[@tinplategeektoo]

Beat me to it. I wonder how many people will understand this ?

[@officialmcdeath]

Chips are off \m/

[@grapejuice116]

Point-to-point idea, Mitcham in london to Midgham.

[@TransportVloggerIan]

You know I actually forgot Sydenham Hill even existed Mainly because whenever I am filming in that area, I'm always filming and vlogging at Sydenham, especially around Southern divert time but the fact remains

[@michaelpierce826]

I hope you will do Coulsdon south to Coulsdon Town soon

[@rogersanderson1725]

What would be your chosen route?

[@caydenstransport]

Heres a 'Pointless Journey', Catford Catford Bridge

[@Jsone260]

You could do Catford bridge to Catford.

[@hamishhortic9739]

another great video, u should come to devon to do some

[@rachaeljuddx]

You should do Wakefield west gate to wakefeild kirgate

[@johnrafferty8087]

Possibly do Catfor to Catford Bridge

[@ianhosier4042]

How long would it take to walk between the two Sydenham stations?

[@officialmcdeath]

It's a big old hill, so longer than it looks on an A-Z \m/

[@omsi2videos251]

Maybe try do New Brighton to Brighton or the other way round?

[@nathanw9770]

You've probably avoided this because of strikes and delays and whatnot but you missed an opportunity to go via Lower Sydenham. As for point to point would love to see something like Hayes (Kent) to Hayes & Harlington or from there to Harlington (Bedfordshire).

[@WestCoastMainlinetrains]

Should do a pointless journey Woolwich Arsenal to Woolwich love your video you do

[@PurpleRoblox677]

Do one from Paddington to Paddington by circle line

[@BusesFromHanworth]

Oh cool I was in the area

[@davejolaurencharlie]

Upminster to Upminster Bridge using as many lines as possible.

[@christiangraham1]

Nick Badley pls Do a pointless journey from South Wimbledon to Morden road

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

Nick Badley you could do, Reading General to Reading Southern for pointless journeys. Wokingham to Woking for Point to Point. Farnham to Fareham for Point to point. Ashford (surrey) to Ashford (kent) for point to point. Gillingham (dorest) to Gillingham (kent) for point to point.

[@networkerfan]

next you should do Penge west to Penge east

[@Skibidijesseohiosigmer]

How about Northolt to Northolt Park?

[@annabelholland]

Try Birmingham Moor Street to Birmingham New Street next (without walking)

[@africa26423]

Try Bromley North to Bromley South

[@boodsmaster]

I think you should have walked between both stations to show how near they actually are

[@officialmcdeath]

Word of caution: they look close on an A-Z or similar flat map, if you consult the contours involved, you'll see a stonking great hill and an ancient forest in the way - takes longer than you might think \m/

[@hi-viz]

When is the Catford to Catford Bridge episode. Maybe invert the concept and walk it?

[@shaunhouse8469]

Ideal for point to point has to to be Gillingham (Kent) to Gillingham (Dorset)

[@Sayoriwastaken]

Hello Nick

[@FENIXfatboy]

Chaps at Sydenham you could of got the 450 bus towards West Croydon, get off at Kingswood Drive/collage road, walk back up to collage road, follow it down and you're be at the station

[@ArchiezVidz]

Suggestion:Sydenham(overground) To Sydenham (Sydney trains)

[@lipkinasl]

How about Waterloo to Waterloo East?

[@willingshelf]

Idea for Point to Point: the Southernmost station in Scotland to the Northernmost station in Wales

[@henreereeman8529]

Catford to Catford Bridge pointless journey would be good! They are pretty much next to each other

[@laurenceskinnerton73]

Interesting.

[@Mubstransportforlondon]

Nice video

[@flyingduckmedia]

You missed out linking in the tram song

[@thomasjenkins8928]

Could you do canary warf on the dlr to canary warf on the elizabeth line pls

[@frozenlightthequietviking489]

To guarantee that last connection, you could've alighted at Beckenham Road and walked to Kent House