Whoop Longer // WeBleedFPV XL90 465mAh

[@glynwarren]

Thanks nick, merry Christmas

[@SHess65]

Merry Christmas to you and your family Nick.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

thank you. To you and your family as well.

[@anseljohnson9954]

I feel like this is perfect for all the 1s 1.6" toothpicks

[@melvinstewart3718]

Im here Nick! thanks for the review appreciated

[@AGZFPV]

Happy Holidays Nick! Hope you and your family have a great holiday season!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. You and your family as well.

[@TRITONFPV]

Thanks Nick. Now I have to go out and get more batteries 😂 Merry Christmas Brother.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol, well "have to"....or "have to" because the "want to"? :)

[@lynsmith1096]

Good comparison video Nick

[@mark6302]

oh wow that's a sick battery :0

[@sullytrny]

Merry Christmas

[@Tokyo_Dom]

Looks really easy to bend on a crash (especially if it hits the battery). I have bent many folded cell packs (hence now mounting my batteries sideways in all my whoops) but this looks very vulnerable with that length

[@turboomni848]

This might be interesting to try with my Meteor Pro65 with the 35mm props. If I try just for run time with easy flights on a tattu 300mah I can easily get 4:30 as these 35mm props seem to really raise the efficiency. Interesting video Nick and thanks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes, generally as prop size increases so does the efficiency. With the 35mm props it will also handle the weight of the xl90 better.

[@Shauny_D]

I run regular 450mah batteries on 65mpros and they are fantastic if you’re 250000kv or higher motors

[@turboomni848]

@@Shauny_D Very interesting. I am still stuck on stock motors but now you have got me thinking. What motors do you use on your Meteor 65pro?

[@Shauny_D]

@ 25000kv 0802 is my preferred but those are pretty hard on the 300mah batteries. I have a 19000kv one still that i can do a lot with but definitely miss the extra umf of 25000

[@initialachannel]

Wow amazing

[@silverotto05]

Well see how good they are. I just put my order in after flying 500 1s for my 40vision.

[@whoopsquad]

I was just wishing for something like that for my Cobb LED whoop.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic! Thanks a bunch for all the testing and comparison, Nick! 😃 Merry Christmas! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@FrederickGFPvHOe]

Might just have to get a pack of em for the air 65 hmm cause it's cold n I fly outside would love it to hold on a bit longer ...

[@midnitejesus]

Good idea! I live in a cold place too. The added capacity could make up for the loss of flight time in the cold.

[@blbills]

Do you have a picture of them installed in the whoops? Also be interested in a flight time comparison at your normal pace. Great content!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No picture. But I can see that the length of the battery connection could be an issue to keep the battery in the CG. I tend to use a fair bit of forward bias for my battery mounting. Rarely fly backwards for more than a moment.

[@dondupuis4007]

Not bad, digital didn't draw as much as i would of expect

[@BlyaCyka]

Im saving up for my first custom drone, i love the small drones but i wanna record stuff.

[@johncarold]

Hey Nick, WOW, that's a battery. Unfortunately I only have one 1s whoop, my mobula 6, and I doubt it would get off the ground. Thanks for the video and info on these batteries.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am flying 65mm in all the flight samples, so yes, it will require a bit more throttle but your M6 should be fine.

[@LoganimFPV]

Haha saw this one coming when you said longer flight times in your last video.

[@LoganimFPV]

I saw this on webleed a couple days ago lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yep, took more runs than I thought it would to get 4 reasonable flights to compare. When I mentioned it in that video I had yet to review my footage, found it all to be a no go :)

[@flasholiver69]

Very Cool! Thanks more flight time is always good!

[@Hotahseh]

Call me crazy but I’ve been using my 550 batteries on my air75 with 5min fly times respectively. Tight fit but seemed fine to me. I do feel the weight compared to my 300 but I’m still to much of a rookie for it to personally effect me

[@NickBurnsFPV]

With a 75mm whoop the battery tray will natively fit larger batteries. This isn't true of the 65mm whoops, the battery tray on these are natively for the 300mah size of battery.

[@Hotahseh]

@ ohhh okay gotcha. I don’t have the smaller size so makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

[@andi67951]

2:55 You think? 😀

[@solongbattlestar]

I would get these to make better 2s batteries. I've noticed that running 2 1s 300mah in series with an adapter work better (less voltage sag, more flight time) than regular 300-350mah 2s lipos. Might be a better option than the 1s 450-550mah lipos I've been using on my 75s. Nick, please show a comparison between these batteries and the traditional 450-550mah 1s on the Mob7 HDZero. Please, with sugar on top?

[@mike_at]

there is bt3.0 too

[@JeanFrancoisPoulin1]

On a parallel subject, which goggles and controller would you recommend for flying these non-DJI drones? Please let me know.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I use the hdzero goggles with the rapidfire module. I cover my analog video setup, link in the video description. I also use the radiomaster zorro remote. But there are so many options, depends on budget and preferred style.

[@KlownFPV]

Nick, you didn't cover a really important factor which I would have thought you of all people would.... Do they come with any stickerrrrrrrrrrrrrzzz?? 👀

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, no stiiiccckkeeeeerrrrrrrzzzz. I think stickers with batteries only purchase are pretty rare. Or I can't remember.

[@smika710]

Technically the emax open ipc board will fly on 1s but blacks out at 3v😊

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah, I skipped looking at the open IPC products recently launched. Only so much time.

[@smika710]

@NickBurnsFPV no worries, few of us fly this system

[@derrickcraddock2022]

Mr Nick, lol, what sre presentces? Im curious. Could it be giveaways from Ole Aint Nick Burns?!? Just teasing. It's been a great 2024 spending time watching your awesome and very helpful videos. I'm looking forward to 2025. Thanks for everything, Nick, and Merry Christmas. Good Sir!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you & Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.

[@brunog6237]

Thanks for your video and Merry Christmas ! Wath do you think about de 350mha Ovonic we can find it on aliexpress ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't know much about Ovonic batteries, to my knowledge there are only three true battery manufacturers in FPV. I would venture a guess the ovonic are made by the same company that makes GNB labeled batteries

[@crs768]

the air picture looks almost better then HDz, 🤔

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Probably better view of the image with just a touch of sun through the house windows here kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4iQdaevp91mgsU

[@mike_at]

dont know if its worth tho, if my math isnt wrong its not even 50% more flight time even tho they have 50% more mah. the handling has to be worse too so im gonna skip these

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Weight, as weight increases we have to use more motor rpm to produce the thrust and with that we use more battery mah. Handling in a slower flat style is impacted yes, but its very minor in my opinion. I certainly wouldn't try to freestyle or go fast.

[@FPVYeti]

The amount of flight time won’t be directly linear in its relation to the size of a battery. A heavier battery is gonna require more power to carry, and therefore won’t be as efficient for flying. You will get longer flight times as it’s a bigger battery, but the flights will also drain the battery faster. Going up in battery size to get longer flight times is kind of like 2 steps forward and one step back. You’re still getting longer flight times but not to the extent you might think. You’re also getting worse flight performance by going up in battery size. On the flip side, by going down in battery size, you’re getting a more efficient quad that flies faster and is more agile. However, the flight times simply just won’t be as long. For this reason, one good method for choosing the right battery for your quad is to start by deciding how much flight time you need and then choosing the smallest battery that will get you that flight time. Any extra flight time above what you need is going to impair handling, speed, and efficiency. The extra flight time you’re getting is gonna be a diminished return. This is true across the board. It’s not a situation where it’s like “if you go above 300mah you get a diminished return”. No, any size you do is getting diminished returns. If you could get a 100mah battery, it would be more efficient and offer better handling than a 300mah. Going up to even 300mah has diminished returns. Of course, if you could get your hands on a 100mah, the flight times would be so short that it wouldn’t be a practical battery to use. So that’s not to say lower is always inherently better. It really is just recognizing that any amount of mah you’re getting is at a diminished return, and so being strategic about how much flight time you need and pairing up the right battery for that, no more and no less. Hopefully that makes sense!

[@elstukov]

What about the BetaFPV LAVA 550mAh?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

doesn't fit the battery tray of 65mm whoops.

[@Dorff_Meister]

I have a red one from Amazon.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah, they very well could be selling them all over. Hard to remember where I buy from :)

[@ChristianBouffard-cb9vh]

xl90 link not working?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

working on my computers. Maybe some local security application doesn't the link shortening from Tinyurl?

[@stevejobs5]

@@NickBurnsFPV I can confirm its not loading. Its a 404 error. Also I cant find any batteries on their store through searching.I tried in incognito mode and on another device. I am in canada but order to the US

[@stevejobs5]

If I use vpn it works

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@stevejobs5 Don't know what to tell ya. I also tested via vpn from canada, LA, & Minnesota in the US, London in Europe and Manila in the Philippines, fireFox, edge and chrome.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@stevejobs5 I wonder if your router has some security settings. I have seen various security not like url shortening. It likely believes the redirect is some sort of browser hack or dns poisoning or otherwise.

[@8BiT_fpv]

!! hay

[@NickBurnsFPV]

hay back...right?

[@8BiT_fpv]

Ah yea! 👽 what up man, how ya doin? This battery is kinda cool, i could see some applications for that kinda battery. A 1s wing? Seems to be a good option. Idk, I hope to get a couple of them to experiment with one day. Pretty cool. ​@NickBurnsFPV

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@8BiT_fpv 1s wing, didn't even know that sort of thing was out there. I presume 1s wings aren't fpv wings?

[@8BiT_fpv]

@NickBurnsFPV Oh they can be fpv, thats the plan man 🖖👽😊​@NickBurnsFPV

[@zoide-777]

Thanks for the video! It would be great if they made something like this for micros: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjJkIKIhtKnpdEsi=-oc4vg5NFjaSw0y-

[@W1rbel]

pointless just go 75mm biblade with 0802