Foxeer Toothless 2 Micro // Nano or Micro - Which do you prefer?

[@bighornriverpaul]

Both cameras seem to handle night flying really nice. You always do a great job reviewing fpv products. Thanks for your efforts.

[@FilipRadelic]

10:30 that's the "new" "standard"(ish) VTX connector used by TBS Unify, Tramp, some AKK ones etc. All micro and bigger Foxeer cameras have had it for a while, I don't remember seeing it on Predator 4 nano... Anyway, camera looks great, but I don't see any obvious differences between nano and micro so I'm happy that I ordered the nano after your review 👍

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Looking forward to the Ratel comparison.

[@itsme-fr5fr]

This is somewhat off topic but your neighbors motorcycle is sick!!! I love the look of a street bike with an extended swingarm and a fat back tire. For me riding a motorcycle and flying fpv are similar in a way that they both were the most freeing feeling things I've had the pleasure to do in my life. Nowadays I like to keep my risk factor to a minimum though (in other words I'm too scared)so I don't ride motorcycle's anymore and when I go out to fly fpv I always wear a helmet because safety first!!!

[@tonyh6438]

I fly the same way in my neighborhood, unless you stop and hover in front of someone’s windows it’s all good.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yea, none of that. I don't see the point, I am not interested in what they are doing, I just want to fly. My neighbor across the street as aDJI Phantom, he was shocked at how fast the little drones are and also disappointed from the fpv view. I had to explain that a bit.

[@Bliss0011]

I'm the same way when I start chasing my quad's shadow. lol

[@Gosuminer]

I will replace every broken cam with a Toothless from now on. I think the image quality is as good as it gets for analog video. Thank you for this thorough review. The connector looks like JST-GH which is used by some VTX but I haven't seen them on FCs.

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

As long as it fits my frame and the image quality is 👌 then I'm happy

[@argyleskyfpv461]

Another great video Nick. I just installed the micro one in my hawk 5. The picture is amazing. And wow what a FOV. Now it needs to quit raining and blowing 30mph outside!!!!!!

[@LittleMissRollerCoaster]

I also love chasing my quad's shadow like a silly dog! LOL!

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying, Nick! Great review!!! 😃 About lens flare, every lens has it, unfortunately. I see it with the Nano version as well, but it's very small in both of them, so it's not something that could harm your flight some way. BTW, I had to read a LOT about it in the time when I helped a Brazilian ufology group to analyze pictures. 😬 (But they were really fine people, not the crazy types.) Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@grizzfpv3321]

Love playing with my kids with my drones we all get a kick out of it and I like how this camera looks

[@fpvclub7256]

Looks pretty good.. Nice HDR look. but the light is not messed up.. I like it.

[@dcsmith5839]

Thanks for posting.I enjoy the low level flights over the how many times can I change direction flying.The interaction with your son looks like good fun.I would think your are more impressed with your control skills,than be annoyed

[@joshgalbraith931]

All the akk vtx's I've owned use that style plug. I think it's a quality connector just a bit bigger than normal ones.

[@ruftime]

Nice Nick! I’ve got very cool neighbors too......and now some new flyers😎 That looks like the connector TBS and immersion rc used on their older vtx.

[@audiogek]

I prefer the micros over the nano for image quality(bigger lens option). And this one looks really good!

[@wingsuitist]

Thanks again for how thorough your reviews are. Best out there.

[@echobeefpv8530]

I like your routine for checking cameras !! That is a pretty good looking Cam !! As long as your neighbors are cool, your not hurting anyone, and peeking in windows is for the media, not real life. We are just having fun. I just bought the Baby Ratel ( on your recommend, as such ). That connector I've only seen on old Diatone equipment ( Tyrant's)

[@ch3w3yfpv42]

That image is amazing!!!...good stuff and great review thank u very much Sir Nicholas of Midwest! ⚔️

[@friendlynomad9840]

At this point, I vote nano camera every time. The later releases like the Baby Ratel and Toothless are just as good as my micro cameras--might as well save the weight. The way you talked about your neighbors all being friends makes me want to move to fly-over-country. Seriously, you're home town sounds really cool. Great video!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its a good neighborhood. We have been here 13 years, seen kids grow up and get married, friends retire and celebrate birthdays. The neighborhood also has collective outside dinners, Easter egg hunts, fireworks etc. While we aren't hype close we know each other and a bit of our histories.

[@nasa1man]

That’s one of the new type of connectors that Use on VTX and FC It’s called GH1.25 Connectors

[@sixtofive]

I've always gotten a kick out of picking up my own shadow as well. This one looks good!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Most interesting view I have in the neighborhood. :)

[@DrMacca]

Great video! 👍 Nick, you really don't need to defend flying around your own neighborhood to a random KZbin commenter! 😉

[@spartan-fpv6936]

Gday Nick, my opnion is that the nano looked slightly better at night and day about the same as the mini, i prefer nano fpv cameras now Nick as I'm really only building micros up to 3 inch thanks to you Nick, great review as always and leave that young teenager alone we were all young and strange at times when we were young mate, lol.👍🛸

[@lordmalix3141]

No dislikes at all, only good ytbers have that

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, they will come I get 3 minimum eventually on every video.

[@Tump2010]

camera size depends on the on the quad for me, 14mm for whoops but the 19mm is what my 3" frame was designed for, my 2" frame also only accepts a 14mm camera

[@valden]

Hey Nick, off topic, and I rarely make requests lol, but you really ought to check out the microheli mobula 6 conversion frame without the ducts. It's actually something like a half gram lighter than the original ducted frame and is carbon fiber and tpu. Pretty cool and I think it would be right up your alley! Maybe even for a 2s setup.

[@rc-fannl7364]

Looks nice again. Maybe, if the post delivery people finally do their job, I'd be able to compare these cameras as well some day. The connector is an existing one, I've seen it being used on several VTX, like the Holybro Atlatl series. It's a JST-GH type connector.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Seems like a roll of the dice with the history of experience you have. :(

[@rc-fannl7364]

@@NickBurnsFPV Yeah, and I usually lose with games that use dice. So much nice flying days at the moment, where a new camera could really be put to the test. But maybe even more annoying is my new whoop batteries having gone missing, which would come in really handy should the lockdown get intensified, and going outside for recreational activities no longer be allowed. But the most frustrating is that the delivery company doesn't want to look for what went wrong, they just tell me to have the sender ask for starting an inquiry, which takes weeks and weeks, and still no result. And no parcel.

[@enriquepazwebdevelopment]

So imho I didn't see much if any performance difference in the two cameras Ive watched both videos now. I did however notice that on this larger camera there is a connector on the pub attachment and not solder pads. Does it look like that connector is removable and one could solder directly to the board? Is this an older version maybe that has the connector or vice versa? Thanks for the video and the info. Keep flying and having fun.

[@brknpropfpv3899]

Thanks for the video Nick, did you mention you are using an onboard dvr? If so could you ad the link. The picture looked really good to me. Honestly it looked like GoPro 5 footage, well done! 😎🎮🤙🏻stay up

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its this one, it can be bought all over the place. shop.runcam.com/runcam-mini-fpv-dvr/

[@bryanfanning3715]

Looks like a pretty good camera

[@peregrineflow7354]

I like the grain of the nighttime image. Sweet camera overall. I think the images looked substantially the same also but I like control. Looking forward to the Ratel comparison. The lens flare was a bit harsh. That can be difficult to test and can certainly vary with lens size. I do enjoy the tree/sun tests. I am interested in two areas, 1.Tiniest/lightest cam & 2.Best Image cam whatever size assuming it to be appropriate to a sub-250g build. I dig smart audio. I think you could take a more leisurely stroll through the settings maybe. Thanks for the test platform info. RunCam Mini FPV DVR, correct? Your video made my day. Happy Easter/Passover/Equinox

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes the recording is direct to the runcam mini dvr. Thank you for all the input.

[@DroneOn]

I'm probably wrong but it looks like connector to a tramp vtx. I prefer nano because weight. These cams are awesome. Thank you for taking the time. Sorry your having render issues. :(

[@jackmaddox4960]

4:30... Now THIS is pod racing...!

[@electroddxful]

Great review Nick👍👍👍

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you.

[@blakedubord4550]

It's a VTX connector that's on some of the cheaper VTXs that I've come across.

[@zanniemcrae9958]

I have seen that connector on vtx, such as the HV Tramp and FuriousFPV

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Interesting. Thank you for noting that.

[@fpvattitude8163]

The connector is foxeers new standard its on all there new micro cameras

[@Tump2010]

I remember connectors like tat on FCs back in the days of multiwii boards.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Several have indicated TBS and AKK use that connector on some vtx. Not surprising I haven't seen it in micros, connectors take up space and limit installations.

[@shinuza]

The connector looks like a JST GH.

[@skylerbrehm1443]

Im 15 too o_0. He is kinda lucky to have a dad who loves drones so much :/

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Those high school years are rough. He is doing pretty well with all we have going on. He isn't into drones much though :(

[@cristianalpha7257]

We need more HOA like yours. Mine is crazy, led by nazis, and there's a physical fight every year at our meetings.

[@fpvphil3289]

It’s always the ones that attend all those invents that are the creeps! LMFAO just joking brother! Great video

[@ripperfpv9880]

Nice job I am also a casual flyer because that was good as usual squire

[@Dangeresque14]

Wasn't the nano version the starlight edition? Was this one standard or starlight? Either way it's a great image.

[@yogarajgowda]

I dont had drone like fpv but big i had it was amazing video

[@Reecefpv]

I need to get one of these for the toothpick . Anything is going to be better than the zo2 and this new bando we found is kinda dark but freaking awesome. And really need a new one for the 5" the owl plus 2 isn't cutting it. It's ok inside but now for everything else. not clear enough

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I presume eos2? That camera can be hit in a miss, sometimes very red sometimes its okay. At that price point I buy runcam nano 2.

[@Reecefpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV I think it was zo2 it came on the betafpv 75x cam vtx combo but I took the cam of and used it on the toothpick

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Reecefpv ah yes, Sorry I thought it was maybe a typo.

[@propsoff]

What VTX where you using in this video? Was it the same VTX used for the nano review? A 2fer for ya, thanks Nick...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The vtx is the eachine 03, the recording we are watching from the runcam mini dvr

[@propsoff]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you

[@TheXanUser]

I prefer nano for weight and size. ,but ill happily fly micro on slightly larger quads. this toothless 2 micro has its own osd voltage and it can also be tuned off? correct?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes the osd can be turned off in the settings.

[@JamesWilson-mz5xk]

Just putting it out there that I've bought 2 of these expensive cams (micro version) from 2 diff suppliers and both had problems. The first will not let me access osd with the dongle or cam control so I'm stuck with factory foxxeer and voltage text at bottom of feed. The second gets extremely hot and shuts itself off in about 45 seconds completely unusable. The inductor right next to the connector actually has melted the plastic label protector on the back. Nothing against foxeer I love my toothless 2s and Falcors but beware

[@ZukiManDan]

I would go nano anyday as long as there picture quality is not poor.

[@nikodelrey]

I have a 12 and 15 year old and I just can’t get the into FPV. Do your kids fly? Just seems like the perfect hobby at that age. Especially since they can just take my stuff 🤷‍♂️

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Our youngest does have a interest, but its pretty mild, she runs the emax fpv car around the house a fair bit and sometimes show people how she can fly a whoop in level mode. The other two will go for a ride along from time to time, but just not there thing. Or at least yet.

[@BoneBear]

I'm a little late to the party, but is there any way to change the name from "FOXEER" on this camera like you can on the Predator? Those have a separate menu on them, but I can't find anything on how to do it for this cam (and the usual way doesn't seem to work). Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am not certain, but generally as you say we can switch the name to something else. I think it was a long press on the right button to get into the camera osd to customize, but it could be a long press on one of the other buttons.

[@broken4999]

Sick video nick👍thanks.

[@beauson1983]

I have a request Can you use one of your many epic drone cameras to take some footage of that sick motorbike up the road with the extended swingarm? For comparison purposes only obviously 😉

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. The guy that rides that bike works with/for the neighbor. He came over to check one out one solid. Seemed like a solid dude, he was only used to dji drones. The next time I am out with a camera review I will circle the bike if he rides it that day.

[@dronedaze]

great review nick

[@monstermechanic8670]

Lens flare... J.J Abrams would be proud. 😁

[@fpvnme4845]

FOXEER all day great great camera > or is it nicks awesome flight

[@djilly75]

It has a huge sensor

[@AlexDaviesXD]

I've seen that connector on tramp vtx's before

[@beauson1983]

2:30 I don't get what the big deal is hey, I just drop over and saw my neighbours when I bought my first drone and told them if they see a drone flying around it's just me and if they doubt that I'm just racing around and think I'm being creepy, I've said they can check my DVR No problems for at least the last 18mths 🙂

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am not sure why others have issues or think there is an issue, could be just some people don't understand and fear what they don't understand. Or its the pilot behavior.

[@Airbrushkid]

Hello Sir, Do you know what the smallest AIO camera is? I'm looking for a camera w/vtx but very small.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

probably the same as comes on the mobula 7, sorry I don't recall the model name. many are about the same size and weight at under 4 grams.

[@elvedinzdionica9732]

akk vtx has similar plug

[@Quadtastrophe]

the wow effect at 2:58 😳 how you record your dvr?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

dvr is on the quad it is the runcam mini dvr.

[@Spideystrat]

What vtx was this on ? No break up at all ...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

When I do camera tests I use an onboard dvr so we can concentrate and see just the camera rather than looking through the breakup to see the camera image.

[@fpvrehab8310]

What quad do you run all these camera tests on?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

its the tomoquads.com kaiken

[@coolcoyote1893]

Did you get your receiver antennas on this time?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes, that is fixed :)

[@wooler78]

Nothing creepy about it now if you were flying a mavic or something like that window level I could see how someone could find that creepy with it been a dedicated camera drone

[@tomijaakkola9661]

What is the differense 4:3 narrow vs 4:3 wide ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

image is a smaller field of view.

[@alexmoil6256]

Nice, dvr inside kwad ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes, dvr is on the quad flight stack. Runcam mini dvr.

[@imothy]

what DVR are you using onboard?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Runcam mini dvr. It’s a board fits right on top of the fc

[@unnamedchannel1237]

Mom wants to see your stickers

[@TheEviling]

It doesnt come in bright neon green. That is as far as i can tell the real difference between this and the nano :)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. no, no green

[@yodayedi2325]

very nice

[@dr.dougdroneson4239]

I'm a micro fan

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Is there a performance or another feature the micro has that nano doesn't?

[@dr.dougdroneson4239]

@@NickBurnsFPV just a visual to me

[@v_ktr4358]

I remeber being a 15 year old like it was 4 years ago. Well it was...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol.

[@onclefly8450]

Bad connector 😥

[@jayward7536]

Wait until he hits 20 like my son and they say im an adult.now lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, legally yes, still move development to do at that age.

[@Switch180fpv]

No stickers :)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah dang, I forgot, its right there in the thumbnail. Shoot!

[@itsme-fr5fr]

Nano

[@NeilGaede1]

It's creepy because it's dark...

[@blalien777]

Creepy flying around your neighborhood? Get a life to whomever said that! He's not window peeping, Geez!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yea, ya never know their experience or there own fears.