New car, Porsche Macan S, quick look

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Nick Murray

Nick Murray

Күн бұрын

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@NickMurray
@NickMurray 5 жыл бұрын
Just what the world needs. Another SUV 🚙
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 5 жыл бұрын
My sister has a Macan S. Slick little ride
@SuicidalWarhead
@SuicidalWarhead 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy and relieved that the Macaques doesn't replace the 911. As a more practical car or even daily it's a very good choice I think.
@octaane4763
@octaane4763 5 жыл бұрын
youre the greatest lol
@fbhacent
@fbhacent 5 жыл бұрын
Did u get ur deposit back on ur etron?
@julian987r4
@julian987r4 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Murray no leather around the steering wheel column! arrrgggghhhh :)
@jdlarson11
@jdlarson11 5 жыл бұрын
*Nick Murray:* "Audi is an annoying company to deal with" *Also Nick Murray:* (Buys another Porsche after returning 2 911's)
@JD_-_
@JD_-_ 5 жыл бұрын
Yep and etron in french means piece of shit... Stay away!!
@adamkwiatek318
@adamkwiatek318 5 жыл бұрын
* Family comes to visit * Nick: I need to buy an electric SUV.
@Dorianl98
@Dorianl98 5 жыл бұрын
*Family leaves* Nick: I'm trading in Macan for 992
@djbiltv
@djbiltv 5 жыл бұрын
put a bmw M40i badge on it and let's see if it disintegrates like the 911.
@ARFSPRYG
@ARFSPRYG 5 жыл бұрын
LOL =D
@Dynoflash
@Dynoflash 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 5 жыл бұрын
"Good news!!!!!!"
@MBisFrenchy
@MBisFrenchy 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully a strong discount off MSRP due to previous Porsche issues.
@thesaint8400
@thesaint8400 5 жыл бұрын
Free kick to the balls
@MrMustangrick
@MrMustangrick 5 жыл бұрын
Frenchy...what issues do they have ?
@MBisFrenchy
@MBisFrenchy 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrMustangrick Nothing that I'm aware of is wrong with the new Macan. Just Nick's previous two lemon lawed 911's that had severe random electrical issues which is why I would think he should get a special discount on another car.
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 5 жыл бұрын
@@MBisFrenchy In the video he mentioned that he got a very good deal. And he deserved a very good deal. The previous Macan had a number of known issues of which mine had nearly all of them. They have been great at fixing them but they will not give me a 911 or 718 as a loaner car.
@MBisFrenchy
@MBisFrenchy 5 жыл бұрын
@@cvn6555 Yes he did but I was stating it hopefully is below market pricing due to an additional incentive due to the two previous defective cars.
@duarte523
@duarte523 5 жыл бұрын
“Screw Audi” - buys a Porsche
@markbrix9385
@markbrix9385 5 жыл бұрын
Porsche is not Audi. What's your point now?
@philippk1125
@philippk1125 5 жыл бұрын
@@markbrix9385 This car is based on the Q5, it's literally an Audi in disguise.
@markbrix9385
@markbrix9385 5 жыл бұрын
@@philippk1125 Yeah, I know. It's still no Audi. And he didn't complain about the Audi models, but over the customer service of the manufacturer. Porsche is another manufacturer. So, there is nothing implausible about it, if he buys a Porsche Macan instead...
@Cornwall1888
@Cornwall1888 5 жыл бұрын
Brix X he’s had many problems with Porsche, it’s why his channel blew up
@jh5kl
@jh5kl 5 жыл бұрын
@@philippk1125 bentley is more Volkswagen, than this Porsche is Audi.
@terminatedphil
@terminatedphil 5 жыл бұрын
You had me slightly worried that this is the 911 replacement.
@erichwlim
@erichwlim 5 жыл бұрын
I asked the Porsche dealership about the air suspension when I got my Macan S and they said it’s more appropriate for more sporty models like GTS or Turbo. You used to drive 911 so you would have noticed the difference but for normal drivers the benefit is marginal. I think your car is perfect! Congrats on getting a Macan. Such a great car.
@harrisonsattley3243
@harrisonsattley3243 5 жыл бұрын
Nick you should make a farewell video for your lovely Golf before you donate it! Hopefully this Macan serves you better than some of your past Macan loaners :3
@baddbbug
@baddbbug 5 жыл бұрын
Got my wife a Macan GTS with a lowered suspension kit and a custom colour (P98) and it performs and turns heads . It’s a great car. Congrats.
@ohansol
@ohansol 5 жыл бұрын
Big congrats! Can’t wait to see it broken down!!
@dsp1970
@dsp1970 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new Macan S Nick! Really nice addition and sure Tui is very happy with new ride!! Use it well and drive safe!
@axelhofmann4897
@axelhofmann4897 5 жыл бұрын
You will not regret this deal. I bought my Macan years ago following your advise after the review of your parent‘s Macan in New Zealand - never had a problem, still love it!
@head911
@head911 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Nick!!! Got one in march with almost the same spec as yours. Looks really nice!! We are very happy with our Macan as a family car, perfect next to our 991.2 GTS(your favorite)
@chuck121370
@chuck121370 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats and nice job on the new Macan S. I have a 2015 Turbo and after 61,000 miles it’s still amazing and trouble free. Love the Volcano Grey, Spyder wheels and of course the full leather interior. Wishing you the best of luck buddy.
@MyNameIsUnavailable
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
Looking at a17 myself
@peterpoppe4855
@peterpoppe4855 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to the (Porsche)-family Nick ;-). Good luck and many happy miles and video's with the Macan !
@RN-lo6ti
@RN-lo6ti 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for long term reviews on this. I want to buy this badly.
@shelloiluk
@shelloiluk 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Nick. I have a Volcano Grey 2017 Macan S Diesel here in the UK and I love it awesome car and sooo comfortable just a wonderful wonderful daily. I’m always opening the panoramic roof FYI. As a weekend car for noise I have a cheap 2006 987 Boxster lovely little car and exhaust sound from a 6 cylinder. And the mrs has a Golf TSi 1.4 for when I want to feel like a kid again or going to the tip. I have my life sorted. Good luck with the new job and congrats on the Macan S.
@MrEli204
@MrEli204 5 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a Macan S who uses it as a daily driver in New England I would recommend the 19in wheels over the 20in. More sidewall makes for a smoother ride over crummy roads and more tractable in the winter.
@TheRobertjoaquim
@TheRobertjoaquim 5 жыл бұрын
I admire your forgiveness of the Porsche brand. I'd be too scarred if I'd had your experiences! Great spec on the Macan btw, looks 👌👌👌
@MatthewGaither
@MatthewGaither 5 жыл бұрын
Great choice, Nick! I have a CPO 2018 GTS in the same color and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Enjoy it!
@shaunhockley
@shaunhockley 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new car Nick, looks great!! Look forward to all the content coming
@MarshallPaisner
@MarshallPaisner 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats! You will be remarkably pleased with your choice. The Macan S, with your options, is probably the sweet spot for Porsche value. Enjoy! Tui please don't play with the center console buttons!
@Dynoflash
@Dynoflash 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new whip. My daughter loves the Macan S I bought her. I have been driving loaner Macans myself lately and finally picked up my 991 Turbo today boy did I miss that car. As always a great video
@dezigns80
@dezigns80 5 жыл бұрын
Had a 2015 S for 3 years and enjoyed it. Liked it 200% more after flashing with a Cobb tune. Highly recommend.
@edjustice7755
@edjustice7755 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Nick...like the color and the Macan refresh looks so nice.
@oomstu
@oomstu 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Nick!! Wishing you many safe kilometres ahead.
@leeandrews1072
@leeandrews1072 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations.....I love the proper buttons on the console vs the black panel electronic buttons in the new Cayenne Panamera etc
@strebrr
@strebrr 5 жыл бұрын
All the best with your new car. Your videos are still belonging to the best on KZbin 👍
@Banner1986
@Banner1986 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you stuck with the Porsche family. I'm not in it, but I admire your dedication to the brand, and love watching your content because of it
@vanceshaw3675
@vanceshaw3675 5 жыл бұрын
I agree w Nick on Macan Turbo. It’s a very higher performance vehicle. It “only” has 35 HP more than the GTS but it feels like 35% more. I suspect Porsche is VERY conservative with its numbers. You can feel it immediately as you touch the throttle. The extra power transforms the vehicle.
@shadboutine7081
@shadboutine7081 5 жыл бұрын
Congrat Nick, it's a beauty! I had an S as a loaner recently and I loved it. Keep up the great work.
@trevourmcgoon8499
@trevourmcgoon8499 5 жыл бұрын
Not a bad 2nd car Nick! Really like the panoramic sunroof perfect for the lovely NZ climate
@thomasmadden293
@thomasmadden293 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, congratulations on the new Macan. Love the color and the interior black isn't as bad as you think. Looking forward to hearing about how it perform regardless of the fact it's your "utility" vehicle. Oh, loved how Tui broke in the rear seat. Gotta love dogs.
@Jmoneypoprocks
@Jmoneypoprocks 5 жыл бұрын
So glad to see you behind the wheel of porsche again. Love the videos.
@Suction_
@Suction_ 5 жыл бұрын
Calling it now, if this one becomes a lemon like the other 2 Porsche's, they have a vendetta against you. Good choice getting off the floor instead of ordering. This way they had no idea it's going to you lol
@TheIantonna
@TheIantonna 5 жыл бұрын
I love porsche, but after 2 lemons I would be very very hesitant to buy one!
@Suction_
@Suction_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheIantonna I'd be after 1. Especially his first one. They dicked him around constantly and then finally gave in after his videos got millions of views
@porsche911luv9
@porsche911luv9 5 жыл бұрын
I drove my friends macan S and it is a fast fun compact suv. I can see this being a blast to drive at all times. congrats!
@lwlw55
@lwlw55 5 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to get a Taycan, Nick?
@Esteb858
@Esteb858 5 жыл бұрын
I love the camera that you're using Nick! The image is so crisp and sharp! Congratulations on the new Macan S, it looks like a fun daily car with plenty of utility!
@IGCameron
@IGCameron 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your new drive Nick.. great Choice. I would have one if I had the spare readies. Happy Macaning.
@Grenyas
@Grenyas 5 жыл бұрын
Just what we need: another SUV on the road. jk. I love the Macan. Congrats, Nick!
@christiancormier7847
@christiancormier7847 5 жыл бұрын
She’s a beauty Nick! Congrats!
@ScuuBdoo
@ScuuBdoo 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Nick and congratulations. I hope this one proves to be a good buy. Your perseverance with Porsche is admirable.
@bradw922
@bradw922 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, get the new Boxster Spyder, when it comes out. Perfect combo with this new Macan S
@danderoma
@danderoma 5 жыл бұрын
awesome can't wait to see all the adventures in the Macan! My Allroad lease is almost up and this is on the short list!
@yoyo11177
@yoyo11177 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new Porsche Nick. Lovely spec on the Macan. On PASM, i was just flipping through another old 959 article, can't believe the first PASM was used in the 80s.
@builtyankeegirl
@builtyankeegirl Жыл бұрын
I have this same model and color, but I had to have the red leather interior, it's a world of difference that makes it amazing.
@vaukman585
@vaukman585 5 жыл бұрын
Stealthy and understated yet such a great daily. Congrats, mr. Murray!
@adrianow77
@adrianow77 4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids Nick. Best wishes from Singapore!
@geebee222
@geebee222 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely car, Nick - congratulations! I hope it’s a great vehicle for you. As always, really enjoy your videos. Cheers!
@RemGb10
@RemGb10 5 жыл бұрын
Hearty Congratulations from a Macan owner. Welcome to the club. I am sure you will love it. It is the best driving SUV especially at this price range.
@scofair1968
@scofair1968 5 жыл бұрын
Looks great Nick. That colour really does suit the Macan
@AUav8r05
@AUav8r05 5 жыл бұрын
yes! I was hoping you would. This car is on my short list to compliment my 997.1
@shelloiluk
@shelloiluk 5 жыл бұрын
S Flynn just do it I have the same as Nick but 2017. My god I’m impressed so bloody comfortable as a daily and fun as hell on the motorway and backroads still. Just a fantastic car all round. My other car is 987.1 Boxster for summer weekend cheap fun and lovely 6 cylinder sound. Cheers.
@mark82421
@mark82421 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Nick ! great car ! I have the slightly bigger brother but had the Macan as a loaner recently, really nice, have fun !
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great color. I drove a Macan loaner last week in that color and thought it looked fantastic. The Macan S is the sweet spot in that line. The base Macan is not quick at all. The big "T" turbo is much more money for performance that most of us will never exploit. Hope this one works well for you.
@odl21
@odl21 5 жыл бұрын
I love that the new Macan has the steering wheel mounted sport knob. You might think it’s pointless but it’s one of two features I really miss on my old shape macan PP. having to look down and hit sport or sport plus before passing on twisty roads is a real pain. My 991.2 gts has the knob and I use it all the time. The second feature I miss that the new Macan has is the heated front screen
@NickLamie
@NickLamie 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you picked this after what happened to your beloved 911 I’ve watched your videos countless times and have been looking at a macan so I’m so glad you picked the new S and can’t wait for your awesome videos on it
@mrzanderlee
@mrzanderlee 5 жыл бұрын
Great job, Nick. As a Porsche car/s owner, the Mican is the best smaller SUV on the market. Handling, acceleration and response is closer to the 911 than most think. Thanks for doing such a great job on all of your reviews. You are the best! Keep up the great work.
@myaccount__7269
@myaccount__7269 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Nick. Great video and I’m happy you didn’t have to wait months to get it . Also good on you donating golf to a friend, you are an awesome human being (we will ignore the kiwi bit for now). 😂
@gizamlukeable
@gizamlukeable 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats. I'm sure you'll enjoy the 2019 Macan. Can't wait to see you toss this car around with Tui. I have a 2019 too coming from a 2014.
@gregorytrane7828
@gregorytrane7828 5 жыл бұрын
Been a BMW owner of different models and Mercedes as well for 20 years. Always wanted a Porsche. The Macan would be my first choice. I've bought new (2017) and own my first American vehicle in 40 years for utility, the Silverado and will keep it because it runs strong with no issues but will buy this later as a second vehicle for pure driving enjoyment, recreation and pleasure. Good review.
@MemoryLaneCinema
@MemoryLaneCinema 5 жыл бұрын
Nick will donate a car to a friend. How can some people write negative comments about this guy? Top man!
@edyb2653
@edyb2653 5 жыл бұрын
Great buy, Nick. As your second car, of course. A small remark... you were talking about the engines of the Macan S. The engine power would be more noticeable, you said, in the S Diesel, Turbo etc. Turns out Porsche said recently they would stop producing Diesel cars altogether. And that goes for all models, Macan, Cayenne and Panamera. They made that decision because of all the discussions over here in Europe on diesel cars. Diesels are being banned more and more. If you have one in Europe, you’ll have a difficult job selling it. With all but the newest diesels, you are already prohibited entering cities like Paris, Madrid, Frankfurt and so on. Hence the decision made by Porsche. Okidoki, thx for the vid Nick. A pleasure, as always! Cheers, Irwin
@NickMurray
@NickMurray 5 жыл бұрын
Edy B yes I am looking forward to the EV Macan that replaces it
@mozza7189
@mozza7189 5 жыл бұрын
It’s no slouch though 6 cylinders, 340bhp, 460nm and nought to 62 in 5.4 seconds
@sbpwjm
@sbpwjm 5 жыл бұрын
Small counter point, I absolutely love the blades in the exterior color. I think it goes back to my younger days when I spent time dealing with all the black plastic trim pieces on my cars growing up. Keeping all that black plastic shiny or at least not faded was a slog. Put the blades on in exterior color and no more fading black plastic to deal with - textured black plastic mind you.
@edwowen
@edwowen 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. My wife and I just got one. Really pleased with it. New PCM is spot on. Pan roof a must!
@piperbob2
@piperbob2 5 жыл бұрын
I finally took possession of my new Macan S on 4th May (in the U.K.), after putting a deposit down in February 2018 - so a wait of 15 months ! But it was worth waiting for - five weeks now, of very enjoyable driving. Mine is in Dolomite Silver (as at 5:22 in your video here), which I like very much. Most of the Macans and Cayennes I see on the road are black, so I wanted something different. Hope you enjoy your new Macan as much as I am, Nick !
@vandecar15
@vandecar15 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I just hope it stays reliable for you. I have second-hand PTSD about your last two Porsches.
@tbone1493
@tbone1493 5 жыл бұрын
Had a Macan loaner the other day, really nice car. Love the seating position, unlike most SUV's where they seats are too high the Macan allows to you lower them where you feel your in the car and not on top of it.
@iluka6809
@iluka6809 5 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw new Macan it was in Green color and it looked like a spaceship with that back light bar
@ashleylemmer8016
@ashleylemmer8016 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Nick, enjoy! In terms of colours, I have found that a light colour just makes a big car look bigger and this is made worse if the car has a round and smoothed shape. I have in the past chosen dark colours to hide black plastics. In terms of air suspension, it could come down to whether you will use it on gravel roads on a weekend. I mountain bike here in South Africa, so would want the plusher ride.
@PSA955
@PSA955 5 жыл бұрын
I've had these as loaners, really, really like them and would also consider as a 2nd car. Excellent daily driver. Best of luck with her.
@sagardaryani8181
@sagardaryani8181 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats, keep it up brother😎... really happy for you
@befitcycle
@befitcycle 5 жыл бұрын
Great choice Nick. I love updated macans great interior beautiful big screen analog gauges good amount of buttons best porsche to get nowadays
@john_p
@john_p 5 жыл бұрын
2:25 rumour has it the S and X will have a body refresh very soon, incl an additional rear motor
@EddyJoe
@EddyJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats, Nick! The Macan S is definitely on my radar for my next car. I would like something with some sort of autonomous driving features bc I go on many road trips, though. Can’t have it all, I guess. Glad the dealership gave you a great deal after all you guys have been through together.
@dennyjezdic5144
@dennyjezdic5144 5 жыл бұрын
Great choice Nick. When my S4 died I made a rushed decision and bought my Macan, thinking I would regret it. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I don’t regret going to the dark side at all. I can haul all sorts of things around practically, and then I can haul ass when the competition arises. Here in Canada, we were privileged (blessed?) by Porsche to receive the Exclusive Performance Edition. It’s basically a Turbo with the Performance Package and a bunch of cool options tossed in, for an obscene price. I plan to bring it down to the next get together. Enjoy your new ride, bro!
@davidblanton5146
@davidblanton5146 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Nick. Well chosen. Love the color.
@mickpov4708
@mickpov4708 5 жыл бұрын
Love it man! Congratulations on your new daily!🙌🏼 also perfect for the winter here in CT.
@ChipZilla69
@ChipZilla69 5 жыл бұрын
Interior looks nice. Love the moon roof.
@brunomihelic585
@brunomihelic585 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck Nick! It is very nice car!
@steffydog
@steffydog 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful colour, options and video, as always. Super pleased for you Nick, fingers crossed for its gremlins 🙈👍
@MrDGS999
@MrDGS999 5 жыл бұрын
Love my new Macan S in Crayon. Like you I had some issues with a previous Porsche and the company looked after us well. We bought a pre built car as well which was found for us. Similar spec with a black pack. Found out we had an electric tow bar as well, which we may not use!
@SelfishGreedyCapitalist
@SelfishGreedyCapitalist 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Very nice car. Love watching your videos!
@denniswagner3962
@denniswagner3962 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. For me the allure of the Macan as a daily is the easy ingress/ egress. You have to be 6’4” like I am to understand.
@iokone47
@iokone47 5 жыл бұрын
“Slight” update on the VW Golf 😅 Nicely done Nick. Congrats on the Macan 👌
@Harpreet06
@Harpreet06 5 жыл бұрын
What was the problem with the Jag I-Pace? Personally I'd go for a Macan too but just wondering.
@RandallJT84
@RandallJT84 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the GT3RS review, nice job on going with the Macan S. Good Luck in the new job!
@MBisFrenchy
@MBisFrenchy 5 жыл бұрын
Nick gets some PPF at least on the front bumper / hood if you are trying to avoid rock chips.
@NickMurray
@NickMurray 5 жыл бұрын
MBisFrenchy going on this week
@SteelRoninTT
@SteelRoninTT 5 жыл бұрын
New lense too? Congrats on it and the car Nick!!
@iwunder997
@iwunder997 5 жыл бұрын
Nice tall station wagon! Had one for a week while Porsche had my 911 in for service. Was so happy when I got my car back tho.
@kimchee411
@kimchee411 5 жыл бұрын
I agree the Macan is not a sports car on stilts like some journalists suggest, but I don't think you give its performance chops enough credit. I've had my S for a year and recently found that when you really push it toward the limit it responds with aplomb. Otherwise it can feel like a pretty pedestrian drive, soft and almost wallowy with its weight and roll. Really superb handling vehicle and fun when you need it to be. I think it would beat my 997 C2 around a track. Also PSE is a must IMO. Without it's nearly silent (boring) in the cabin.
@hangnguyen-lh8kw
@hangnguyen-lh8kw 5 жыл бұрын
Nick- I suggested this car. I have the 2018 Macan S with the same color and wheels and most of the options. One option I love that I didn’t hear you mention is the 360 assist - very helpful when parking. Anyway can’t wait for you to compare the 2018 and 2019 Macan S.
@jeromelangenderfer8853
@jeromelangenderfer8853 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the gt3rs video and the 18-19 macan s comparison. Thanks Nick
@RogerBaileyOnCars
@RogerBaileyOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
Macan is a great place to be Nick, I expect you'll enjoy it enough to trade up to a miami blue GTS variant in the fullness of time.
@NickMurray
@NickMurray 5 жыл бұрын
Roger Bailey say no to drugs Roger! 😆
@Only-one-life-68
@Only-one-life-68 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Roger as a guy in Uk I’ve got the 2018 macan gts in Rivera blue it’s lovely. Usually have a RR SPORT in the SUV but this macan is just special I also believe the quality is far far better than JLR
@paulpak1
@paulpak1 5 жыл бұрын
"...got the Panoramic roof...Don't know if I'd ever open it..." 😂 😂 😂 Nice car, Nick! Quite an upgrade from the Golf. Well done.
@jo05dk
@jo05dk 5 жыл бұрын
When i came acrioss this channel you were about to buy, or had just bought, the M4. A car i really don't care for (i did love the colour of it though). Now you're letting the Golf go, and that's my favourite of the cars you've owned..and you're replacing it with a SUV. I don't know about you Nick.. Anyways: It looks really good in that colour. By far the prettiest of this size SUVs, to my eyes. I guess you learn to live with the soulless sound of a turbo V6 instead of the fantastic five cylinder, after a while. It's a practical car after all. You deserve praise for holding on to the Golf for so long :)
@scotto8199
@scotto8199 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah we are gonna need to see a launch.
@ItisBean
@ItisBean 5 жыл бұрын
I am so happy for you or maybe for myself (more Porsche videos!) 😚
@atastefortheroad4475
@atastefortheroad4475 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the S and I think it's a great daily choice for New England - having grown up there. I may have to take a closer look at one myself at some point.
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