Porsche 911 Targa 4S 992 with $60k worth of options

[@details78]

Love this type of video, Nick. Whenever I play with the 911 configurator I don't necessarily feel like I'm always understanding the various options and their value for money. This lays it out plainly. Along with the amusing commentary on which options are BS and which are not. Would love to see more of these if your time and access to new vehicles permit.

[@cvn6555]

The easy answer is that none of them are value for the money. Not possible when the name Porsche is involved. Can only be about the experience and desire.

[@details78]

@@cvn6555 That's an interesting perspective. Basically pay to play.

[@cvn6555]

@@details78 I walk into a Porsche dealership and I assume the same attitude as when I walk into Disney with my family. I know there is not going to be any type of deal or value for what I am about to spend. I know I will be continuously bent over a barrel and money hoovered away. But you can't duplicate either experience. They are the only ones that have what they sell and you either pay up or don't go. It is much more enjoyable when you aren't fretting over the $10 popcorn or $3,000 sunroof and focus on the products.

[@TheChannel1978]

@@cvn6555 Well said. I don't have enough play money yet to buy a Porsche so I just stay away. No point moaning.

[@cvn6555]

@@TheChannel1978 That's the way to go. I had an Acura then an Infiniti then a Macan S. Got decent trade value for all three. My Macan S got me 30k trade-in value towards my GTS. I paid 62k five years earlier. You'll get there.

[@Bonspieler]

My absolute favorite Porsche. Unfortunately I have a rule to never spend more on a car than I did on my home 26 years ago. Great video Nick Cheers!

[@markday5797]

Good rule, but what a lovely Porsche.

[@nickzarnetske9994]

Do you account for inflation in that calculation?

[@lollypop9580]

Is your house still Worth the same as 26 years ago ?

[@PH-md8xp]

Good rule, to be even more conservative, update the rule to “never spend more on a car than what your house is worth today” :)

[@Bonspieler]

@@lollypop9580 Fortunately not. Approaching Carrera GT levels. 😀

[@TobiasRieper047]

Still here Nick! Sometimes just quietly watching, The Targa is nice! Love that model.

[@jamiekins938]

Great to see you back like your old self. Sorry you've had a few bumps lately... it's life. Love this car. PS your long hair makes you look older. Stay safe and so happy to see the old Nick back in the saddle!

[@amanyejote]

Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m already all smiles because the 1st sentence on the preview has “manual transmission” in it.

[@bria52003]

I enjoyed this, Nick. Thank you for not taking the easy way out and declaring that the extensive option list was ridiculous and a waste of money. Everyone wants to option things their own way. This car reminds me of my Oak Green 992 C4S. I had a hard time not checking configurator boxes and wound up with a similarly bonkers options list. I plan on keeping the car for years and I don't want to regret anything so I went with my heart and spec'd it just how I wanted, without a concern for resale. I think I wound up with a pretty unique combination.

[@JakeDrives1]

It’s Nick saying “Ghetto” for me 🤣🤣 What an incredible spec. Thanks for featuring this one!!

[@larryle3572]

It’s not ghetto until you install the 22 inch chrome spinners

[@bbpleg]

I bought my Cayman S with 19” wheels and that’s about it I think :D Oh and the slightly better sound system… have fitted better brakes and will be fitting an lsd and coilovers. After 8 years of ownership, I couldn’t be happier with the thing :)

[@billtaglia2865]

Bought a base ‘19 Cayman 2 1/2 years ago. As a ‘launch’ vehicle on a year that they went to the turbo, it had all sorts of options put onto it. Build sheet showed it at 70k. If I was buying new, the S model might have been cheaper.

[@thefridgeman]

Really digging the new "Dirk Diggler" look. xx thousand that option, xxxx thousand this option...no Alcantara to see and touch...Priceless.

[@tomingrassiaimages8776]

Ordered Targa4s in August. Was 4th in line. Now next in line for allocation. Who knows I will ever have posession.

[@oomstu]

Congrats on reaching 200K subscribers Nick!!

[@scottkidd6046]

My Targa GTS is in production now. I added about $25k in options. Can't wait!

[@mitubevideos]

Excellent like always in your NO BS reviews. And, yes the GTS vs S No BS review is the one we have been waiting on. Is it worth it? Is it a noticeable performance difference? Etc. Include your pinch of humor. Thanks Nick.

[@turboman2019]

Crazy,there is no way I would be forking over $60k for just options,that $200k total approaches 911 Turbo territory that I would prefer.

[@jcnlaw]

Beautiful car but all of those moving parts to retract the roof could be a nightmare when the warranty expires. Enjoy!

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

I'd be more concerned about the 400 extra lbs of weight. If you can afford a $200k car, you can afford to repair the roof mechanism once in a blue moon, assuming it even ever fails.

[@pbbdmedia]

What a ride. Such a sweetheart. I agree with all of your spec judgements..

[@bkeen7013]

Always good seeing a Nick Murray video. Interestingly enough, Harry Metcalf (Harry's Garage) reviewed the 911 GTS a week ago, and gave very favorable reviews.

[@NickMurray]

Yes I agree with Harry’s review and they are one of the very best 911s on the road, but are they any better than a S?

[@steved2008]

First time I’ve watched this channel, seems like a cool guy, nice video 👍

[@jimmyamico4713]

NICK, another outstanding video you truly are a Porsche guy I want your opinion which Porsche do you like better the TARGA 4S or the Targa for GTS??? Please let me know when you can I know you’re busy I really enjoy your videos and I will tell you I’m Alexis guy. I’ve been buying Lexuses since when the company came out in 1989 and I will tell you I never thought in 1 million years that I would be considering buying a Porsche, but I’m falling in love with the car and you do phenomenal videos with the Porsches videos. I appreciate you brother you do a great job. Thank you.

[@antoniomarquez1782]

Thank you for illuminating how many options are very non-essential, I will have to save this for when I spec my 911 many years down the line!

[@DriverDude100]

It’s a beautiful car! Thanks for showing it.

[@RevTiberius]

Excellent video, as usual. When it comes to options, functionality beats design 100% of the time. If you MUST pay Porsche prices for an option, at least make it something that increases functionality of the vehicle...

[@steffydog]

Lovely colours, not sure on the list of options, but we’re all different. Thanks Nick.

[@edyb2653]

Indeed, my absolute favorite 911. Would love to have it as a 4S, but would drop a lot (a real lot) of those options. Nick, regarding your enthusiasm driving this particular car, I think you should consider putting it on your wish list??! Anyway, this video was a real treat, thanks Nick! 🦅

[@MrTedflick]

The rose colored glasses. An option we don't recommend! Congrats on 200k

[@chiraqvlogs]

Blessings to your channel from mine here in Chicago 🙏

[@denisbarry9436]

That’s a beauty, and a ton of options. Maybe the new owner can splurge another $200 to replace the amber markers. Enjoy all your video’s Nick.

[@eddstarr2185]

Hey Nick, wonderful detail video on the Porsche 992 4S Targa. What a beautiful spec, the Targa is the 911 no one can take their eyes off.

[@arielquintela452]

Nick, Great video. Just got my allocation for a 992 Targa GTS. Picking options and colors this week.. This video helped me. Not sure I like the idea of Steven Segal sitting next to me !! Appreciate all your videos. I am a fan of the Targa. This will be my third one. Keep up the good work.

[@gtperfection1596]

Nick thank you for being a beacon of hope for dorky middle aged white guys who dream about German sports cars.

[@sarmand7144]

Hitting the like button before the video even started. Not biased.

[@edjustice7755]

Good one NM!! Thoroughly enjoyed your review. Detailed as usual which is what we call except from your channel! Also happy to see you enjoying life again....keep it up!

[@charliecleanup]

thanks nick.. good review and good question about the GTS...

[@suitcafe]

Great color. Always liked the Targa, but I rather have a sunroof.

[@mahmoudobeid3397]

Nick.... as always, awesome video. I love your honest Porsche reviews. I will definitely buy a Targa 4S in the future. You're right, they are beautiful 911's

[@Lemonduh757]

love your channel Nick !

[@JamesSalvatore]

Great video! Congrats on hitting 200 k subs

[@dubstepsickness]

Gorgeous 992, gorgeous colour, great spec

[@erimei8478]

Man... the way you said "ghetto" at 8:16 had me rolling.

[@HawkMillFarm]

With all what's going on in the world its nice to have some Nick in a Porsche time. thanks for taking the trouble to do the videos. P.S. your classical music clip is the same as the ringtone I have for my wife, sometimes I let it ring and ring 😄

[@iamisraelvillafana]

This is really it the right review for first time Porsche to become owners and this guy answers all the ins and outs of the website options. Better than Doug De Muro

[@terry9703]

Hi Nick, Another use for the front axil lift is that it makes it easier to get out of the car. For example, a person with an injury or arthritis would appreciate the extra height when exiting the car. Plus, I really hate that sound when you drag the front of the car over a speed bump or the concrete at the end of a parking space. I have always really liked the Targa 911's. And although I don't hate the convertibles. Given the choice, I would pick the Targa. But given my personality, I would probably end up with a coupe with a sunroof.

[@glenobermaier8810]

Love your videos Nick. Picked up my 992 4 GTS convertible in December and it is amazing. Surprised how different it feels to the 991.2 I had before. Went for tge GTS because by the time I had specced up a 4S it was almost the same price, but GTS has a few extras as standard, such as the sport design package and not forgetting the few extra HP! I really like the Targa, but what puts me off is that you can't raise and lower the roof when driving. It is amazing how often I have done this in the convertible, especially with the unpredictable UK weather, and pulling over on a country lane, or even on a motorway is not always easy!

[@Dejan_23Unlimited]

Any update after having GTS conv for a year ? Thx

[@paulhenner8914]

Move to Australia and keep your Targa !

[@edanxkr]

You're the best Nick! Great video!

[@cefdcefd]

Haven't watched your channel in a year (youtube wouldn't remind me you existed until today...) what's going on with the hair?? :'D Congrats on 200k, happy i stumbled on your channel again!

[@billy00001]

Here's my theory on GTS models. Porsche makes all their non-GTS press cars full-fat models that end up rather heavy, and then all the GTS press cars ship with the GTS exclusive lightweight options. So, the journalists aren't necessarily _wrong_ when they say there's a huge difference between the GTS and the S, but that difference is largely due to the options that were selected. There's probably over 100lb difference just from the 18-way heated and ventilated seats vs the fixed carbon seats.

[@NickMurray]

yes suspect there really is no real difference at all between the S and the GTS experience

[@kopkar16]

I absolutely love this model. And this particular specification. Less some of the ridiculous options. Loved seeing it and I too love blue!!!

[@TTT-1961.]

I love puddle lights so much i even have them on all of my shoes now!

[@tyler9703]

The option I don't get the most is actually the full leather interior that's just in black. They offer some awesome interior color combos for the same price as just black; a tan, red or white interior would look a lot better here.

[@redskytitan]

I’m one of the lucky ones to take delivery of one of these beautiful manual targa 4S’s last summer. Mine isn’t quite as expensive, but super nicely appointed, and I would argue better looking than this one here. I went with dolomite silver metallic exterior and burgundy red/black full leather interior with carbon fiber trim. Definitely a dream car! If I can recommend anything is please get the front axle lift, it’s a must!

[@TheChannel1978]

lol why would axle lift be a must..

[@redskytitan]

@@TheChannel1978 because otherwise you scrape the bottom almost every time you get out of even a slightly inclined driveway. The axle lift works great and even remembers the GPS coordinates so that next time it lifts automatically. You can probably maneuver the angle to avoid this, but it’s not always possible.

[@Lerxstification]

The only fatal flaw in this build is the lack of personalized door sills. Oh, and leather air vent slats. Other than these items, perfect. thanks for the rapid dry towels, love them!

[@ak203]

no toaster oven or microwave either

[@jonathanwright8802]

The biggest miss by far is the lack of a leather bound rear view mirror.

[@ak203]

@@jonathanwright8802 Disagree. We always get the leather floor mats with deviated stitch that match the car color

[@ak203]

Platinum tail pipes are the new rage. Only $70,000 extra if you select the premium package.

[@biditnow8869]

The Targa's are aimed at old guys who just want to toodle around town. They are noticeably heavier, slower and sloppier handling than a coupe with a sunroof.

[@michaelblash3360]

Beautiful car and another great review, Nick. I’ve been watching your videos for some time now as I’ve considered buying a 911. I finally made the move last month, purchasing a very low mileage Carrera 4S. I love it! What a driver’s car. Keep the great reviews coming.

[@D992]

Keep up the good work Nick. Hi from a 981 BS owner over in the UK 🙂

[@johnopfer8065]

Thanks for pointing out the extra 400 lbs up high. How about the Targa4? How much different is than the Targa4S?

[@HiddenWen]

Wonderful review Nick, glad to see another one of your "traditional" Porsche 911 reviews. I'd love to watch a review on the 992 Turbo/Turbo S.

[@stephenlane9168]

Great video Nick you kiwi legend. Love the Targa versions of the 911’s. Prefer them over cab. Personally I would go PDK just my preference 👌the Targas are great cruisers , cosmetically the best looking. Rarer too. 👌👏

[@daraghmorrissey]

Gorgeous car, I've always liked the idea of a convertible but not keen on a cloth roof. A targa might be the best middle ground. 60K in options is a lot but in this car they do take it to the next level and could even see this car as a future classic.

[@lollypop9580]

Future classic ? 🧐

[@joetacchino4470]

The current (and 991 as well) cabrio have "cloth tops" that aren't really cloth. They are three magnesium panels covered in cloth. The only truly "cloth only" area are the sail panels. It is very rigid, quite quiet, and stows and deploys quickly.

[@jtn1920]

The right way to buy a Porsche - order it exactly how you want it!

[@scundoorsup5342]

Exactly I actually negotiated a better than MSRP FOR MY 2022 Targa 4s , and they threw in Porsche car cover and winter Mats. What a bargain

[@auchen888dolly8]

Nick back to his hunting ground what a car beautiful 😍

[@Sneakerfan_Chris]

Excellent video Nick. I do like the painted wheel option on that car!

[@michalish.4513]

Dear Nick, do you think we will see any time soon the new macan s and macan gts comparison?

[@john32son]

Another excellent video Nick. Also, I love the Elvis sunglasses!

[@romanslifestyle]

Love the details, but for me the wood trim would have elevated the car so much!! But that might just be, blue with brown looks amazing!!

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

We all have different taste. I'm not convinced wood looks good in a sports car of this vintage and calibre. I'm not a fan of carbon fibre trim either. Waste of money and is often overdone. I'm good with leather and minimal amounts of brushed metal trim.

[@vitusyu9583]

I like Targa the most always ❗️

[@soundofindividual]

Good looking targa! 18 way seats, those wheels and blue ext colour for me is enough options.

[@brianiswrong]

Me aswell👍

[@thedrivebygg]

Great video Nick, if you have the money why not, personally the basics work for me, lightweight all the way

[@maxmartz4665]

Porsche has wind buffering aced. Boxster top down 80mph in Mexico and my chapeau stays on. I really like the look of the Targa in DBM. 10k for no brake dust seems such a small price to pay.

[@carlrebeiro]

A new video and fifteen points! That's an awesome and unexpected treat, thanks! By the way, what's my current points total, Nick?

[@chriseagle9442]

So when are we going to see Nick Murrays’ 992?

[@martinboulden3540]

Cool video Nick - Nice Sunglasses too !

[@clownworld-honk410]

Struggling to wrap my head round 180 KGS extra weight for the Targa top. Surprised the Germans havent found a way to engineer a light weight mechanism. It weighs the same as my 1 litre motorbike! Congrats on 200K subs.

[@Rick2010100]

There are ways to make it much lighter, but that would completely spoil the price.

[@Hawk_Eye_Retro]

Due to that fact alone - the targa doesn't make sense to me. I would be fine it it were a self removable top that weighed less than the cabriolet - but in this configuration/weight I'd choose the cabriolet over this every time.

[@omarc473]

Excellent infographic at 1:08

[@christophhazy8080]

Can you drive a base carerra with only a few options on it?

[@blueman5924]

congrats on 200 K subs !

[@kpiskin]

Love the Targa!

[@Alex.AL_26]

Was just at my local dealer yesterday walking around the lot to see if I can find a Macan S, but not a single one, only a few base models. Although to my surprise I did see a 992 Turbo S and a GT3, I figured those were way harder to find than a Macan S but I guess not.

[@chrisyang598]

Hi Nick, awesome video! Will there be a review on the 2022 Macan S vs. GTS?

[@DougC83]

Beautiful car you got to drive there, awesome video as usual. I would love a PTS Brewster Green Targa 4S, but here it comes out to about 400K all said and done, chose to go with a PTS Dark Olive Green GT4RS. Perhaps when I’m older, too old to DD a track weapon.

[@lollypop9580]

IS the gt4 rs that Much cheaper or your targa configuration is specced over the Moon ?

[@weissachpassion]

WTF- how did you achieve 400k on a 4S 😅?

[@DougC83]

@@weissachpassion Well, I’m in Shanghai, local import duty is quite high, base price starts at close to 300k. Then it triggers a 10% luxury tax plus 13% VAT, with options come out to roughly 400K. Yea, that’s like Ferrari money in the US😑

[@DougC83]

@@lollypop9580 GT4RS came out to near 500K including ttl, but the worst part is the estimated 2023 Q2delivery, the wait is killing me. FYI, pricing is the result of insane import duty being tacked on here in Shanghai, Asia in general. Taiwan charges just as much, and Singapore is even more ridiculous.

[@weissachpassion]

@@DougC83 Uff - that's crazy. In Germany the car starts at 160k USD

[@eduardosoto6997]

In my opinion there are alot of optional extras that should be standard on a car of this caliber, for example, Power folding mirrors, power steering coloum, puddle lights, ventilated seats (if 18 way seat optioned), Porsche crest on seat headrest maybe even on the armrest, and leather covered steering column. For a starting price of $137,000 and options inevitable, these should be standard equipment.

[@Grenyas]

Good thing I'm broke. Having to decide which options I would and wouldn't want would drive me nuts.

[@blraider9724]

Those sunglasses - gives off a slight adult movie director vibe but it works on you, Nick.

[@SankyG]

Missed you nick and your beautiful videos. And yes 🎶 anybody ?

[@nigel.w]

Isn't a 992 Turbo S Cabrio only circa 10k more than this?

[@HDMF01]

Great review of a fantastic automobile. Appreciate your candor. Thanks.

[@ChoPi-Eww]

$3k should also include real Corinthian leather on wheel center caps, brake calipers, and stereo buttons. And a matching leather jacket, chaps, and cap!

[@RootBeerGMT]

I would NEVER paint the wheels unless my name was Tyrone

[@An.Individual]

I never want to see Nick without his top on.

[@DoctorSkillz]

Nick is the Targa of the 911 range.

[@robertweber6326]

Thank you Nick a great video

[@trevormacdougall9385]

Great video, Nick. I think I will keep my ‘87 3.2 with almost zero options and invest my $200k. Wish I could invest in Porsche shares given their likely margins on options!

[@RootBeerGMT]

87, solid year dude, hold on to it

[@DrivenNotHidden]

Wow wow wow. Magnificent. Glad you didn’t damage the glove box in this one…

[@NickMurray]

Almost

[@DrivenNotHidden]

It’s not a gts…

[@onecreative1]

I'm looking forward to see your side-by-side review of the S and GTS. From what I've seen the S has gotten softer and more plush to appeal to the aging baby boomers, while the GTS retains that sport driving feel. I'm curious to know if you agree or not with that statement. I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on either the 4S, GTS, or GT3 Touring.

[@beeeneee]

13:55 Does this car really not have automatic climate control??

[@rogeradshead7345]

Nick, is the 400lb weight increase as compared with a 2WD hardtop? I was thinking that the 4WD system must account for a decent chunk of the difference if so, and that all of this extra weight is low down...

[@ItisBean]

New car video finally!

[@brianiswrong]

No sure alot of the extra weight is up top,well not 400lbs anyway I suspect it has a few more bracing rails on the chassis, a bit on the roof and rollover " hoop" and I bet the rear glass is heavy, I also guess the motor arms and hinges are heavy duty.

[@Iloveyouallalittle]

My targa 4, not an s has 27K of GBP £ on it I think would have to check but it was about £127k all in

[@tonymanning3218]

Hi Nick. Great video and thank you for the review. I have ordered my 911 Targa 4 GTS very early in 2022 in Shark Blue. I appreciate your comments about options as I have time to make changes before I get my allocation which I expect Q12023

[@tonymanning3218]

Euro delivery which we hope will schedule Q2/3 2023 and looking for ideas on planning the trip and detailing. Please let me know if you have contacts in your network.

[@norevlimitr1602]

Looks odd in the rolling shots as the 20" front wheels spin at a different speed to the 21" rear wheels. Very visible because of the camera frame rate.

[@keithlehman2060]

Noticed that as well. I wonder how they get the all wheel drive to work if the front is spinning at a different speed than the rear.

[@norevlimitr1602]

@@keithlehman2060 Good point, Porsche probably has some kind of fancy differential between the front and rear.