Nightblue3 vs. 5 Iron Players (1vs5) - The Rematch

[@Red_Lycoris1309]

12:20 "no iron player plays that aggressive" i have seen iron players that are the definition of aggression. i played with a guy who didn't even take out the tier one tower, and still fought 3 guys at their inhib tower.

[@supreme_flecs6086]

the truest comment i've seen

[@Doschy]

sir, thats called "running it down"

[@khathusignio696]

the truth is iron is the train section for high elo dude professor akali have iron acc for example

[@Red_Lycoris1309]

@@Doschy it would, if those players didn't survive somehow. you sometimes get to see the wildest stuff in iron.

[@Red_Lycoris1309]

@@Doschy same goes for iron players in valorant

[@atsukana1704]

This series is revealing the logistical nightmare that league has become

[@riqu.e]

The wildrification of league

[@kerian5924]

Riot should really release a new champion that every time he died, he goes: "Still... Winnable..."

[@Defi4nc3s1]

Every move the champion does, it will say that line :D

[@kip4393]

New Garen skin, call it Tenmo Garen

[@Bismarck-S]

sion

[@ub4325]

You're very unlikely to win the 1v5 without paid actors. With a reset champ maybe but the issue is they can play so many different versions of a split and the assignments don't have to even be that good and they still win. I think a better challenge would be 2v5 with 5 bronze players with a minimum of 200 games played this season still in bronze. This would also cut down on the smurfing.

[@blessedisyou]

If he plays kayn he wins. Kayn is legit the most mobile champion super fast nice 1 shot and aurvivability

[@OperationzMedia]

90% sure none of them are iron xd

[@OPUP]

The way Yuumi is blocking the Lee Sin Q and reattaching is more mechanics than most silvers. I also doubt they’re actually iron.

[@logansmith6342]

I demand another rematch with certified iron Not these idiot smurfs

[@thegamex5392]

I think illa is płat+ bcs of macro plus champions knowledge Zed is just Diamond+ Sera rell isn't a iron botlane g+ Yuumi blocking q's plus Items g-p

[@mythical_mario]

@@thegamex5392 bro that zed is silver max you're trippin xD

[@drivas166]

Dude 100% they are not iron. I have a few friends that place in iron every year. They dogshhh… at mechanics and knowing where to be . 1. Zed triangle shadow placement 2. Illaoi tower dive 3. Pink wards purchased 4. Basic forward and back movement in lane (usually all over the place) 5. Objective control/counter jungle That’s just 5 easy ones That’s just 5 easy spot outs.

[@TheDanLCS]

Quite possible people are creating fake iron account in a attempt to snipe your stream. Also, the champ matters, no matter how good you are, numbers count... I can only see this being done with Trynda Sion or Master

[@mohamedrassef5608]

Trust me play diana

[@masterlinktm]

Nah, Master Yi and Trynda would take too long to turn on.

[@nmnmnmp4503]

He should play flex on iron account with 4 premades who would go afk.

[@lukamaksic4349]

Arguably the only champs he can win on are kayle or gwen

[@bk_0987]

yeah just good scaling champs, Li sin falls off late game even if he is full build, and most of his dmg is burst and doesn't reset on kill or anything he's doing these bad matchups on purpose lol!

[@konetsulol]

you know what would make it more like an iron game? having 4 bots in your team. so enemy would have fed laners. now you don't have useless feeders as your teammates... and enemies can't get free kills. also bots would hold the lanes a little, you wouldn't lose the towers so fast. if you do a round 3 add 4 bots to your team.

[@bluemedic57]

I agree, or you could include 4 iron on your team but make sure they are the lowest rank or the ones that join. I think that would make it the most realistic and truer test.

[@mariseae]

I think the reason why he wasn't getting reduced lane gold was BECAUSE he was solo on his team. Adding bots might change that which would make challenge wayyy harder if he couldnt collect minion farm.

[@konetsulol]

@@bluemedic57 yes it would be harder. he's doing it the easy way and still losing. like one step further would be 1v5 in mid. those are always stupid as the solo player will outlevel the other 5 and snowball, those doesn't prove anything. this is basically the same thing after losing the inner towers. but since enemies can get exp from all 3 lanes the level diff is less and he cant get fed early. in iron games you're not getting solo exp from all 3 lanes+jungle and outleveling the enemy also enemies can get fed even if you don't die once. with this setup he's guaranteed to get a level/gold advantage and enemies wont be fed. basically he's not experiencing a game where all 3 of his lanes are losing in iron. bots would probably guarantee that? tho i've seen some iron players losing to bots while playing vs ai for missions :D there's that. his bot teammates might win the lane :P tldr:even if he wins the round 3, doing it like this wont prove anything.

[@eu9059]

@@konetsulol he just knows that he can't climb a hard stuck iron account without duo or 100 matchs round 3 gonna be staged

[@ashrafulalam3662]

@@eu9059 yk this series is just an extreme example right? This is just for fun and would only serve as a proof in the case he somehow wins. Hard stuck iron is not a thing.

[@ShiloBuff]

Totally happy to see a re-match! I would still love to see you climb from a legit hard-stuck iron account in Ranked. Would give some educational value on how anyone can climb with the right skill and knowledge. Granted I guess it might get hate for smurfing.

[@madebyjo_l]

theres a guy called royal who did that but on league mobile. really interesting to watch so I could see him doing it too

[@panic1209]

Nb3 has done bronze to challenger series multiple times in the past, showing how to get a bronze account to challenger. This was before iron existed

[@ShiloBuff]

@@madebyjo_l That's cool. Thank you!

[@ShiloBuff]

​@@panic1209 Good to know, thank you!

[@crazysquriel]

@@panic1209 Yeah, but they don't use accounts that are hard stuck in those ranks and have multiple seasons on that rank in those accounts. It's easy when the MMR doesn't think you belong there unless you drop 500 games to get out of loser's queue.

[@Lohmatiyshmel]

NB3 has a talent to pick worst possible champs for 1v5

[@danieltsiu7383]

These are at least gold smurfs. No way they are iron lmao. I think this gimmick is already dead. The first time it was spontaneous but now people in your chat know what to do. You need to grab iron players that aren’t in your chat. Doesn’t help they ghosting too

[@diexiety1]

Nightblue KZbin channels have been on point this few months I’m loving it

[@reaper8113]

you should play as a laner, that way you can get kills during laning phase instead of farming jungle and being behind in level

[@rubenjohnsen6521]

After this, do a 1v5 bronze, silver, gold etc, good content i feel, at least fun to watch! keep up the good work my man👍🏻

[@Frozen0wl]

gold + is gonna be impossible. a team like malzahar, lissandra, morgana, renekton, nocturne is impossible to outplay

[@HNameless48H]

@@Frozen0wl u dont even need gold+ he didnot even win against irons bronze players are just gonna pick anti carries + anathema chain which make him pretty much useless

[@themyth3656]

lmao im pretty sure bronz players are smart enough to know that they can just walk at him like monkeys and they would just win. fun fact there are just as much iron players as thier are challengers. he cant 1v5 any rank other than those lets say soecial ppl@@Frozen0wl

[@saiboT805d]

@@HNameless48H ok relax buddy relax, they dont know to do that, bronze is pretty much iron

[@HNameless48H]

@@saiboT805d im bronze so what is your point ?

[@mikelezhnin8601]

to all people claiming those players were not iron - imho they very much can be iron a friend of mine was stuck in iron for a long time - he mostly played as brand/morgana support he pressed skills (not all of them and some missing, but he tried, you know) he warded, he had basic map awareness (aka looking at the ward in the river for a gank) he made reasonable imho macro decisions the only real problems he had were not dodging abilities, lack of proper spacing, and very poor mental - he would run at enemies in lane, die pretty much 1v2, blame his adc for not playing, and then tilt for the rest of the game plus he just didn't play often enough to climb out of iron so from my experience, iron players can "perform" quite well - yet you can clearly see at 33:40 that they have 3 items while nightblue has 6

[@trodifebliss35]

These 1v5's are fun, I would suggest enemy team isn't allowed TP though. Enemy map presence is just to strong, Also ban infinite scallers for the enemy team. That should make it "more" fair. I've tried making rules for 1v5 love to see others do try 1v5. Also if the enemy team gets too many tanks they can just chain CC & kill you, even when they are behind. It is such BS. Those are some of the biggest issues I've run into, can't wait to see the next 1v5 good luck. ;)

[@jahedgardim]

You should go with Teemo. Build Nashor, Runaan's, Liandry's, Rylai's and Rabadon's. GG.

[@KENTRAVEIANG]

I am betting my own life that those are not iron players

[@LolSho0orTs]

True these are not iron not single one of them is.

[@briccioalesna]

True

[@muhdfaris9718]

only yuumi looks like iron

[@DaminGamerMC]

​@@muhdfaris9718every yuumi looks iron

[@KENTRAVEIANG]

@@muhdfaris9718 uhuh you can actually play yuumi with your left brain disabled. That's how braindead and that champ is

[@maximas95]

A better challenge would be NB3+ 4 bots vs 5 irons or nb3+4 irons vs 5 golds or something.

[@leagueoflegendslol4121]

This series is so good to watch, I only wish if actual iron players join these games. These guys definitely bought iron accounts and played with you. Especially zed, there is no way in hell he is iron.

[@arich6395]

Bro every normal account starts at iron 2 and if you just lose most/all promo games it stays there until you climb it out. I agree he should have vetted the opponents he chose to see if they actually seem like legit iron players but there's almost negative chances these guys had to waste money to quickly get iron accounts man. A simple google search and you can see one out of 12 league accounts is in iron and the average player has 3 accounts so that's potentially up to 25% players with an account in iron... doesn't need to be a conspiracy theory.

[@richmon0177]

They kinda ruined the challenge, they are not iron xd

[@michaelh4116]

Still would be much more realistic if you also had a team of Irons with you. So the impact of one "better" player would be more visible.

[@leslyschafer1879]

He would smurf hard, theres so much content of streamers/youtubers 1v9 in iron

[@flyinglenses4shini4]

I’m waiting for round 3 !! 😅😂🎉

[@Nyangorou1]

20:04 Zed acting smug as if he's not playing 5v1

[@Raxiums]

The 3 iron 1 guys all had 10 or less wins, would be better with legitimate hard stuck iron players. There's a good chance those iron 1 players would eventually climb out with more games played.

[@Nachos4587]

Yeah..1v5 actually helps the Iron players focus. Maybe take 2 iron teammates and carry a 3v5. The 2 iron will be like bots anyways

[@hzging]

unless they were trying to drag the game out, they just needed to have 3 lanes pushing at once. He can only be at 1 lane at a time, and I’d be amazed if he can win after giving up all the platings.

[@Xtariz]

Damn this series is amazing

[@SadToffee]

Everybody talking about how these aren't iron players. As somebody who has played against iron players pretty often, they look pretty iron to me, they do everything I would expect them to.

[@SadToffee]

"No iron player plays this aggressive!" They do. Quite often, even when they aren't going to win. They pick champions that just win fights and then try to hit you as hard as they can with them. And that's it. Their gameplan doesn't run any deeper than that. So when you have the counterplay for it, they fall apart.

[@shadowlibra98]

Been waiting for this. posted 1 minute ago lets gooo

[@Fine_Mouche]

23:45 : stoneplate : 15% cdr 60 arm and 60 rm + 10*champs rm/arm + activable shield 32:35 : imo sell boots for stonepalte or FoN or Deadmanplate.

[@LetsPlayCrazy]

30:04 "I like hard things!" -Nightblue 2023

[@theorochocz6735]

my strategy if I were the 5 iron: Trundle - Hullbreaker, always far from the team splitpushing and taking towers whenever possible (Ghost/TP) Ziggs - atk speed boots, nashor and lichbane, melts towers, should focus on getting them if the nb3 dies anytime. (Exhaust/TP) Lulu - BoRK, main team DPS, point'n'click CC. (Exhaust/TP) Pantheon - Point'n'click CC, helps pushing waves if needed. (Ignite/TP) Rammus - Point'n'click CC, full armor/mr, can tank towers without minions if needed. (Smite/TP) everybody at early game ziggs and lulu go bot, pantheon mid, trundle top and rammus jg. If nb3 go jungle like this is just a free win by taking the towers super early and they'll overwhelm them with map pressure. If he picks an assassin like rengar, master yi, kayn... the point'n'click CC will probably shut him down if the iron just clump in a deathball. If he got something like xerath, with insane range and clearwave, then the team splits and overwhen whit trundle and ziggs on side lanes melting towers. Rammus also could run to catch the imobile champions. With so much tower destruction power any death would probably be GG after 20-25 minutes.

[@RogérioVarandas-b1i]

let's wait for part 3 of i thought i could beat 5 iron players and failed miserably by nightblue

[@EmilLaskowski-l4c]

This series is really fun to watch. Though, i feel there may be some misconceptions about iron. NB3 is right. It is insane to think its impossible to climb out of iron. However, climbing out of iron is harder than one might think for a few reason and some of these things contribute to the poor mentality there. To break it down: 1.) Not all players in iron ARE iron for lack of a better way of saying it. Skill(Mechanics) , Knowledge, Mental, and arguably the most frustrating... effort widely vary in iron. Some people straight up just don't care about winning or losing and are playing "team" death match. Be sure not to take this type of player's kill, they might run you down. 2.) In a well adjusted and ideal ladder there would be VERY small population in challenger AND iron. however this is not necessarily the case due to intentional de-ranking account sellers, bots, and inactive players that don't have or don't want to spend a significant amount of time to climb. 3.) I think most are aware that matchmaking from what riot has revealed over time functions in a manner that utilizes people on upward and downward trends in an effort to balance most users at around a 50% winrate in their approximate rank related to their rating. This is one of a few...adjustments that can affect how a game MAY play out. Another example would be receiving, an "easier" game after being inactive for a few days or a significant period of time. 4.) Lack of control and increased pace of the game has decreased the value of individual skill and knowledge. NB3 made a good reference to this in this video where he talked about needing a zzrot portal which would be very effective in scenarios like this where he plays alone, or in a soloqueue game where you have unreliable allies to put it lightly. The increased pace makes it hard for "True Scaling" champs (kayle, master yi, etc.) to solo carry a game which imo are the only types still able to in its current state. 5.) Removal of Ally summoner names in lobby and dodge restrictions remove control from a player to save time on games that are likely to be a waste of time. These events listed above make climbing out of iron without an extreme gap between oneself and their opponents take a considerable amount of games which most people are not willing to play. (Myself included)

[@Stylebending]

Should do this against silver or gold players, but you get a Yuumi on your team

[@salmonroe5608]

If you do this again, I'm pretty sure lilia would be very strong (that or maybe rek sai ?) to be able to go around the map at mach 5 with grat depush. (Super minions might be a problem ?)

[@garagavia]

I agree, Lilia would be a very strong pick

[@maestrulgamer9695]

27:50-From this point i already know the match is lost! If you can't 1v5 them with full build,then it will keep getting worse and worse until you lose,because they can still buy items to get stronger.

[@jacobdittmer5512]

You are definitely just underselling them. I am considered bronze but still do things youd consider high level. I practice wave management, am comfortable tower diving, and keep relatively high cs (8.5-9 per minute). Im not saying im good, just that we are seriously slept on. TBF, ive only ever used one account so its super deflated with the games in my learning phase

[@kayosplash]

I smoked before watching this and didn’t realize he was 1v5. I was wondering where his team was half of the video😭

[@KrazyCouch2]

Round 2 baby! Round 1 was hype!

[@karaghxyz]

If you want to 1v5, You gotta play a 1v5 champ, like Master Yi, Yasou, Yone, Kat....etc, it's unrealistic to pick lee and think you can win unless you can snowball all 3 lanes ( which is impossible to be at 3 places at once... ), it's not possible to push into them before they take down your tower, so it will drag into a late game, so any early game champ is honestly out of the question.

[@TiesThatBind513]

This really shows how lowly people think of us iron players. We study, we watch videos, we play with higher ranked people. I tried ranking when I first started 11 years ago and a couple times after that and since then I always get placed in iron even after clawing my way to silver twice gaining 9 lp on wins and losing 36 lp on losses.

[@authenticbaguette6673]

I find your reasonable facts inconvenient. If what you say is true, who is the community going to trash talk to compensate for their own lack of self-esteem? Gotcha.

[@randynielsen1413]

Ah, I was wondering why jungle looked fun and like an actual role and then I realized this was prior to the disaster in .20

[@AverageDipBuyerX]

Don't stop this series until you have won at least one game. I have friends playing in iron and they play way worse than the people in this game. Do some due diligence and get some real irons.

[@Flechashe]

Imagine playing against 1 champion and picking Illaoi, Seraphine, Rell... And you too dude, this would be so much easier if you picked something like Bel'Veth

[@jwatercrane]

It would be interesting to see this with ascending rank/descending enemy count. 4v1 with bronze players, 3v1 with gold players, etc.

[@r3izy144]

Hecarim, Loads of aoe, great jungle clear, wave clear, great to fight a lot of people, you got this with heca.

[@warwickthekingmaker7281]

trust me, tanks like alistar is so powerful in this game mode. you get cc chained forever and tanks really do kill you with their base damages

[@JustSorrow99]

i think completely alone is impossible, cuz you wont find time to push really

[@Arezo17]

It would be better with 5 iron players... not 5 iron accounts

[@ZacharyP-ct1jl]

Even if they aren't iron, it really doesn't matter. It's not like any of them were even remotely high rank for sure. The 'contest' is supposed to be about whether ELO hell is an actual thing or a skill issue anyway. So even if some of them were gold or above, it really doesn't matter. It's not like you're not going to run into smurfs on solo queue.

[@Laezar1]

The thing is that you seem to assume low rank players are stupid, someone can have bad mechanics or game knowledge but still figure out a smart way to take advantage of you strategically. I think a great exemple of that is starcraft 2 where core mechanics and build order are so essential that it's not uncommon to find very high level player that just do standard stuff very cleanly while people at lower rank will have much better ideas and better able to think on their feet in a chaotic scenario but just don't have the macro and micro to pull it off. It's a similar deal in LoL except the specific skillset someone is lacking in can vary wildly because the importance of every skill is more evenly spread out. Some people are only good at 1v1 and if they can't get fed on their lane they'll do nothing all game. Others have very good map awareness and strategical but will miss all farm or have bad mechanics leading to them doing a quarter of the damage they could be doing. Point is someone can be very low rank and do plays that look very high level because they know how to do that specific thing. Another thing you're overlooking is that yeah randomness definitely plays a big role in matchmaking. Saying a challenger would get stuck in iron is definitely ridiculous, but they would probably lose some of their game, just not enough that it'd be a struggle to climb. On the other hand if you don't have such a skill gap, like let's say you are gold level and have an account in iron then the random factors of a game will hurt you a lot more. Firstly because there is probably some sort of threshold level where you can start consistently beating the opponent even if they're fed, and if you don't reach that in term of level gap then your games will be largely decided by which team member loses their lane, which will be a 50/50 with some amount you can contribute to in your own lane but even if you consistently win you might not consistently win enough to compensate the fed opponent so you'll get like 85% winrate when your team is doing good but 25% winrate when it's doing bad which would get you something like 55% winrate which with random variance can take a *long* time to climb. A challenger player might be able to get closer to 99% winrate with the team doing good and like 70% winrate when the team is doing bad because they are good enough they can overcome that entirely by themselves (not 100% of the time but often enough) which in that case would give you numbers more around 85% winrate which makes the climb considerably faster. (the number are made up of course but the idea is there). Point is, LoL is a game with a lot of snowball and unless you're good enough to overcome the bad games then your impact is marginal compared to that of random chance and it's only when you get good enough to overcome that that random chance doesn't matter. People who think skill doesn't matter or that they can be stuck in iron but have no flaw in their gameplay are obviously dellusional, but these feelings don't come from nowhere, there are definitely things intrinsic to the game that makes your agency over things lower than in some other games. Like, even the fact a challenger can potentially lose if a really bad game happens even if they'd win 95% of the time is pretty big, if you take a game like starcraft 2 again, I could play a million game vs serral I would never win unless serral straight up gets a stroke or something. And on top of that the thing I mentioned about the varying skillset emphasize the feeling people have that they are with worse players because they focus on the thing they are doing good and realize that everyone in their team is doing a worse job at it and it's probably the case, probably almost every game too, but they might miss things their ally do better or not value them enough (which might be why they're worse at it). Point is, league is some sort of machine that maximized how miserable it could make it's player feel while keeping them addicted to it, y'all should stop playing it =p

[@weijie2771]

feels like theres a third ep

[@curtiswalker8457]

instead of farming his Gromp in the mid-game, he needs to use push into roam tactics to keep the waves pushing and secure turrets.

[@mz1bz]

you just refuse to believe that the average gameplay of players in general is better

[@dront-the-bird]

Second rematch plz, it's so interesting to watch

[@tobiass6092]

never seen a "pro" missing that many skillshots

[@theholyroman6283]

I'd love to see this again with Kayn

[@killercomplexgaming4888]

I think u should go smite but without buying the item till min 14.... so u can farm normaly on lane and after min 14 u can take on the jungle item in less than 5 mins....

[@iamdartagnan]

Yes finally it's here

[@joey1772]

Confirmed! Challenger cannot climb out of iron!

[@DoctorTemblor]

so much coping lmao

[@AERoVALKYRiE]

unless you can pick on release xin zhao, there's no way you can win 5 players, even if they are iron.

[@zeynelblknc]

I found a genius comment here in case you didn't see "He should play flex on iron account with 4 premades who would go afk."

[@HereISam7472]

Do 2v5 gold with Trick2G

[@nikolajzeeberg5605]

Definitely think Ekko would be a valid champ choice due to fast clear speed, and ability to outplay/5v1 with ult

[@surg23]

You're going to need a lot of picks early to make it work. The longer the game goes the worse it will get.

[@ahboh1638]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎮 Nightblue3 takes on 5 Iron players in a 1vs5 rematch to prove a point. 00:28 🔒 Nightblue3 accepted the challenge because someone claimed he'd be stuck in Iron if he had an Iron account. 01:10 🏆 Nightblue3 chooses Lee Sin as his champion for the 1vs5 match. 02:11 🦾 Lee Sin was chosen due to his ability to heal during fights and stay in battles longer. 05:07 📜 The only rule for the match is not to give tips to the opposing Iron players. 08:07 🚫 Nightblue3 reflects on whether iron players typically have junglers in their games. 15:15 🌐 Nightblue3 considers banning Illaoi in future games due to her strength. 17:29 🔄 Nightblue3 contemplates whether to build Death's Dance or The Black Cleaver. 19:08 🚶 Nightblue3 discusses his decision to keep jungling in a 1vs5 game. 20:14 💡 Nightblue3 jokes about the "Hobgoblin super minion" and its effects on the game. 22:23 🤣 Nightblue3 reacts to humorous comments from viewers. 28:17 🛡️ Nightblue3 debates the merits of building a Zz'Rot Portal. 34:42 😅 Nightblue3 acknowledges his defeat against the Iron players and considers strategy changes for future challenges. Made with HARPA AI

[@supremejerry7442]

smoking that HARPA pack

[@Yamyatos]

"They think im coming.. i mean i AM coming!" "I like hard things" "I might have to wip it out" Are you trying to tell us something?

[@vumerion5481]

"no iron player play these aggressive and farm so well" : they do. they just don't think about it when fighting 5 person. But leave an iron alone, and he will farm, get confidant, and yes, get aggressive : he can finally stuff !

[@rengarsanger9016]

Axiomatic arc was the call

[@simioncristian2891]

Man, as an iron player, the biggest wall that i hit on iron is not the skill of players but their will power, alot of them have the game sense but they don't want to play a long game, 80% of games are finished by ff😢

[@markusadamski2699]

i like this idea but can you make one with brozne? then you pick one on you're team from gold or emerald?

[@Jhin_is_beautiful_10]

Bro there is a role that never play lee in low elo 😂

[@awesomerbob]

this game shows the issue with the ranked system. in an iron - silver game you can have people with extremely different skill levels and because its so hard to carry when the enemy have a good team, people find it extremely hard to get out.

[@StefanoKocka]

13:47 that chat voice comment in the backgound is not so wrong :D

[@TheCadHD]

Maybe Bel'veth ? get the sperms to push after you get kills and obj ?

[@jomarcanon7335]

using leesin in 1v5 reminds me of Garou vs class A heroes

[@Bushissafe1]

Nightblue first game: "I dont wanna use any dirty tactics to win like hullbreaker" Nightblue second game: 😶 Also what an awful champion to use to 1v5

[@cy-taku3952]

Bru man was up again not irol player

[@Bushissafe1]

@@cy-taku3952 thats what their rank was saying bro and thats what nb3 took as granted. In the first game he said he wouldnt use hullbreaker but then proceeded to do anyway in the second game

[@TiesThatBind513]

People are calling fake but as a high iron - low bronze player, this looks normal

[@carlsabbagh5194]

Nocturne is probably the play for this

[@jonasjdp1201]

he asked for Irons but he didn't asked which year are they stuck on Iron, those guys have been there since Aphelios release.

[@yeasure.7875]

5v1 always win a pushing game. The thing with iron players is they want kills but only for someone killable 😂 if they know they can't win a killing game, they go for the pushing game. At that point, they're the winner

[@benjaminbasarab2133]

Me waiting for nightblue to just play akali and 1v 5 them finally

[@Saby8teen]

Video Idea : Nightblue vs 3 Diamonds

[@authenticbaguette6673]

"You think Iron players ward?" come on.

[@SerrantDaFoeII]

Bro just needs to pick something that can actually 1v5 like Viego with mad resets or some raid boss champion

[@zOkaiikoi]

I was hardstuck bronze/silver before I quit league, took a break for a couple of years and played around 2k hours of albion and wow. Came back and climbed out of iron in 2 weeks in jungle. Its 100% possible - yes they are terrible and you have to carry but if you genuinely believe all iron are usless but you arent... Then theres 5 useless people on the enemy team and only 4 on yours. I was so suprised at how easy it was for me after just understanding pvp fundamentals better from albion and wow arena and just watching some guides and actually applying them. Follow the 80% sucess chance rule i leant and YOU WILL climb without a doubt. "is there an 80% chance i get this drag, is there an 80% chance i kill on this gank" and you have to think solo, not 80% if my iron fizz lands a max range ult does a backflip over the anivia wall and then flash Qs him... its not realistic, they are iron. Im now gold 3 - highest ive ever been - i know its still low but for me who was hardstuck bottom elo it feels great!

[@camerongriffin867]

Use the infinite scaler kindred

[@a7exaldea828]

You could go for Ex, Khartus with Teleport & Smite.. so you can cover more of the map with TPs.. Or someone who doesnt need flash and play instead tp

[@mikelezhnin8601]

my suggestion for another 1v5 champ - camille/fiora mobile scary stat-checkers with a lot of damage

[@asheus1562]

Just need a jungler that can full clear fast and still rotate to catch waves like kayn, hecarim, etc...

[@danieltsiu7383]

Or ignore jungle entirely to push out waves and get kills

[@paulmartin2348]

Quite possible this is not Zed's first game. (just a thought)

[@Sinvallis]

the biggest fail of ur strategy is that u dont pressure lanes and dont take 1 out from minute 1

[@ddtsvetanovv]

I think will be good for you if you make a rule only to kills minions no attack to towers and jungler for sure

[@MrHikagemono]

Season I and II flash backs, with games not having a jungler ...

[@yGKeKe]

At least require them to have 50 games played so that you're 100% that they're actually stuck in iron lol. (The Zed is not Iron) I still say you get a full 9 iron players and just show that it's easy to carry a game as long as there are bodies in it.

[@landichristine]

Um, wheres round 3?

[@FootballForLife575]

My boy you became iron 😢😢😂

[@TheTrueSnod]

The reason true iron players can't climb out of iron, is that 75% of iron players are loss trading smurfs.

[@tayssirznagui9704]

Viego is the win champ since youre not restricted to one champ and he has crazy Clear,good movemnt with e,crazy damage, only bad thing is wave clear