Shannon Sharpe & Chad Johnson react to RGIII-Jay Gruden beef | Nightcap

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Robert Griffin III and former Washington Commanders head coach Jay Gruden's exchange on X. They discuss RGIII's treatment while playing for Washington and their relationships with their former coaches.
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[@nathanelliott7897]

“There are two things you can never get back, words spoken and deeds done.” Ocho grabs his book of quotes and scribbles 💯 We gonna need Chad to publish the Unk’s Book of Quotes and Life Lessons

[@brendarobinson7411]

I grabbed my pen too😂

[@derrickhorton1264]

3 things if you count passing gas out the ass

[@millzoday]

😂😂​@@derrickhorton1264

[@karltonminter5457]

Fr fr

[@damnnerves24]

Facts!!! 🔥🔥

[@PistolPete_37]

OCHO need a shirt that says “hold on nah” 🤣🤣🤣

[@jamilasmith9085]

And a shirt that says stay with me baby

[@brendarobinson7411]

😂😂😂😂me too

[@ChipCityShow]

stay wit me nah

[@capricorn83dd]

And I'll lie for you before I lie to you...and Child Please

[@natashamatlock2502]

😂😂😂😂😂 real talk

[@ljmassie]

Yeeeah...but RG3 asked for that smoke with his initial response. He THOUGHT Gruden was just going to big the bigger person and ignore his response......Jay went in.....lol.

[@ericy99]

Exactly. Don’t start something you aren’t prepared to finish.

[@lilhyena7534]

I ARE PUNT RETURNER 😂

[@morganwartman8507]

Fr I was about to say the same thing RGIII literally started it and Jay went in on him

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Just like his career, RG3 is again refusing to take accountability for his part in this beef lol

[@marvinbienaime2012]

Ocho Cinco, taking notes is absolutely hilarious, I love it, you can tell he respects the hell out of Shannon Sharp and it is wholesome

[@1970Gambino]

RG3 should have never played injured.... These organizations don't give a damn about you... Next man up...

[@deon3133]

Lmao welcome to the real world

[@IBShowinOff]

Yep, should have stayed out

[@certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224]

The Redskins tried to keep him out. He was pressed to play so Kirk Cousins wouldn't take his job. It was RG3 & his dad that pressed the issue.

[@joshscharf4230]

RG3 forced his way onto the field

[@rayseanhughes5288]

RG3 is the reason RG3 played an ruined his career.

[@NannaP27]

Race a pigeon?!?😭😭😭😭😭 That's tough!😂

[@TopGKev]

That’s what I’m saying, he ate RG3. RG3 thought coach was gonna be the bigger person.

[@Rayallwayz]

Santana Moss is respected in Washington and always kept in house problems in the house. But even he said few years after he retired. He loved RG. RG head got too big. Came late to film sessions and didn't know the whole play book. That RG would get a certain play called in. He would call it in the huddle. Everyone would run the route. But RG wouldn't know what route they would be running. When someone like Santana would admit that. That's when i knew RG was in fact a problem

[@YangGChapo]

Am I the only Love these two more after their football careers💯

[@frankglaze5723]

Shannon slogans are the best Nothing but wisdom and knowledge in every saying

[@moecheeks11]

This is why RG3 shouldn't have went back on the field injured🤡! These coaches don't care about you or career😳! He sacrifice his career for folks who looking to screw you over🤷🏾!

[@daveclark8337]

Bob Griffen tore his knee up when he was 22 and stayed in the NFL for 8 seasons. Tom Brady tore his ACL at age 31 and then went to lead his teams to the Super Bowl 6 more times. Gruden wasn't lying: He wasn't good enough. Kirk was better. The End.

[@bigballer6666]

What ended his career was never learning how to slide or fall down. Dude thought he was Adrian Peterson lowering his shoulder into linebackers. That is what cost him, nothing else

[@malikprince3305]

@@daveclark8337apples and oranges. Tom Brady couldn’t outrun the slowest object on earth before the injury. Brady never depended on athleticism. RG3 definitely should’ve learned another way to play the position but his athleticism was his calling card at that time. RG3 was so athletic that Washington was the first ever NFL team at that time to implement the zone-read run option. Brady ain’t do that. 😂

[@patrickbailey1825]

​@@daveclark8337says you.👀

[@daveclark8337]

@@patrickbailey1825 Says Facts. Bob and Cousins entered the NFL at the same time. 2012. Just watch: Multiple teams will offer 35 year old Kirk a nice contract and starting job even though he's coming off a torn achilles.

[@jvon1884]

As a commanders fan, Gruden was a terrible hire by Bruce Allen. He never had any plans of making RG3 his QB. RG3 had his faults but the coaching and organizational staff failed him. He deserved more after his rookie year.

[@dimitrisbright9807]

His faults was that he couldn’t play my guy. He had 2 more chances on 2 different teams. Meanwhile, Kirk flourished under BOTH coaches and is STILL playing today unlike RG-ME. This is coming from someone who has defended that narcissistic bum

[@RunningThruLife]

The Ravens and Browns didn't think he was good either. Snyder made the pic over what a 3x SB winning Coach suggested that was hired in the 1st season here and gave up 3 1s🤦‍♂️..That's the ultimate problem ..he should've never been here! not Coaching. (Skins fan)

[@certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224]

This is a RG3 meat riding post. Jay gave him a yr & when he didn't perform, they moved on to Kirk and made the playoffs. Jay did what was best for the team. Get over it

[@samlewis06]

You are 100% correct!! HTTC!

[@CharlieCrack9980]

RG3 SUCKED after his injury and he wanted to turn into a pocket passer... Gruden sucked also

[@Abcdefghijllmnop]

Ocho “ I got a book of dem quotes, I’m out to sell that” 😂 he’s been taking notes literally every episode damn near😅

[@chadbinette3201]

The Washington football team drafted cousins the same year because Mike shanahan didn't want rg3 the owner forced them to draft rg3. Yes rg3 had a good rookie season and got hurt but wasn't he Lamar Jackson's backup a few years ago? So he had plenty of time and chances to be starting again but he wasn't that dude, he wasn't a franchise QB, accept it.

[@hurricane5125]

He wasnt going to start over a younger lamar

[@daisyhenry332]

And Gruden ain't that great of Coach either...anyway RG3 is doing what he's meant to do now...Commentaries

[@chadbinette3201]

@@hurricane5125 no Kidding. The point was his career didn't end that one season in Washington, played in Cleveland too, if he was that good he wouldn't of been a backup.

[@Boom38119]

And now you see why Cousins was not a good pick...lol. He was always mediocre and had a limit where RG3 was a dual threat QB.

[@chadbinette3201]

@@Boom38119 except cousins has had a longer career, always been a starter and made A LOT more money. Not to mention cousins was taken in the third round? Rg3 was the #2 pick, so rg3 was a bust and cousins is a 10+ year starter and vet hmm.

[@thomasgentry6201]

RG3 is a outspoken guy which I respect. This situation who knows. But RG3 say Deion Sanders should be the next Dallas Cowboy coach is Laughable!

[@bigballer6666]

RG3 also claims all these coaches reaching out to him trying to get him to come back. Dude is so full of himself and just complete cap

[@jamesjack7074]

We need a book of Shannon Sharpe's family quotes

[@nickyb3084]

Ocho and this little quote book cracks me up!😂

[@tinman3746]

Amazing combination these two together are very entertaining I can’t stop 🛑 laughing 😂 and I can’t get enough information ℹ️ and advice from there shows

[@jamiele296]

This the barbershop version of the kelce podcast new heights lol

[@triggv602]

that man was a world class runner and played on torn ligaments as a rookie for an organization that by year 4 was done with him and told him he wasnt good enough lol

[@deon3133]

He wasn’t better than Kirk lmao.

[@bigballer6666]

He was a world class runner but never learned how to slide and instead tried to be Jerome Bettis and attempt to truck stick linebackers. That’s why he got beat down and became a washed bum

[@triggv602]

@@deon3133 you are lying lmao

[@triggv602]

@@bigballer6666 what you accomplish in the league to be calling mfs bums?

[@triggv602]

@@deon3133 kirk best record was 9-7 in 2015… rg3 had the sane number of wins their rookie seasons

[@chawk212]

Gruden and RG3’s dysfunctional relationship says everything you need to know about the level of disfunction that existed in Washington at the time. Jay is to blame ultimately. Any head coach that has that type of relationship with his player cannot breed success.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

I think RG3 not finding success anywhere else speaks his ability as well. Not defending Gruden but RG3 needs to take accountability for his career. Even though Trevor Lawrence isn't what he was projected to be he overcame a much worse coach with Urban Meyer.

[@45hoynejr70]

He wasn’t the head coach

[@tdoggsmackem7498]

I’m a Cowboys fan from DC. I was sad when they fired Gruden because they were always mediocre under him and I was scared they’d start to win after firing him

[@brandont6492]

You said it right favorite sports unc cause I got a dozen nephew and nieces that say different

[@mugiwara_k9283]

"the toes you step on today might be on the foot connected to the leg that lead to the butt you gotta kiss tomorrow" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dcoker9738]

Jay gruden is not wrong here, RG3 had a great rookie season until the injury happen he just regressed also didnt help he was coach by the shanahans for 2 years and got mike fired and Dan snyder love RG3 So much he put a lot of faith onto him that why it took to long for him to let him go. Jay came in to fix him but it was too late

[@bryantcarson]

💯

[@acrawl77]

Getting hurt is not regression. It's getting hurt

[@odibua9107]

Disagree. Jay Gruden mishandled him, and refused to adjust how he coached hum. Jay Gruden is overrated.

[@CoolGuy-pc5jz]

I agree with RG3 because look at the Jared Goff and Jeff Fisher situation we all thought he was a bust until he got a coach who believed and trusted in him but the sad thing is RG3 got hurt before he got the chance so

[@unc54]

RG3 was good with Shanahan but he got injured and never developed his game so of course when the Gruden comes along he understandably views Cousins as the better option.

[@CoolGuy-pc5jz]

@@unc54 but Jay Gruden got the job saying that he could coach RG3 @4:43

[@unc54]

@@CoolGuy-pc5jz I mean RG3 did enter the season as the starter. But he missed half the season due to injury and when he did play he wasn't good. Then the year after he got injured in preseason and Kirk took the job and never looked back.

[@CoolGuy-pc5jz]

@@unc54 but that’s the point I’m making he got injured because of the coach and that’s what RG3 also did, he didn't protect him, he got injured and RG3 replied to him stating that

[@bigballer6666]

@@CoolGuy-pc5jzRG3 got injured and beat up because he was not a smart player. He thought he was Adrian Peterson in the open field and consistently tried to run over linebackers. Recipe for disaster unless you are Josh Allen, Cam Newton, or big in general

[@foleylione]

Regardless of anything, this hurt Gruden. He’s interviewing for jobs right now. This doesn’t seem like the behavior you’d want from your CEO.

[@natashamatlock2502]

Unc we gone need you to go on ahead and publish dem quotes before Ocho Get’em all 😂

[@lindsaygoins8725]

hi unc shannon i like your show i watch your show all the time by far the best keep up the good work

[@wolverinemarky]

Scheduled messages would be nice that could come in handy. But most of the rest is easier to accomplish. Just gotta use control center more.

[@louisharrison6593]

Anthony Richardson career headed down the same path as rg3.. you can see the writing on the wall with these "unprepared" rushing qbs.. one knee injury away from flaming out

[@jamesjenkins4961]

Everyone seems to forget that Rg3 was the starter until he got hurt but they do this to certain QB S YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING FIRT TIME THEY GET A CHANC

[@michaelharris6069]

Unc just confirmed he's a sweetheart my God

[@rodneycooperjr3223]

I'm happy for Unc and Ocho regarding the fast success of this show, but I'm a realist. I can see the writing on the wall. There are certain things that are not sustainable over long term. The main thing to me is relying on drama. Anything that relies on drama and/or sensationalism has a short shelf life. Look at 'Undisputed'. It relied on Skip and Shannon arguing. Look where/how it ended. Look at the Jerry Springer show. It was a flash in the pan. Even Donald Trump was a one-term president (the first one in decades) precisely because he relied on drama. The secret to longevity is hope, wholesomeness, and happiness. Oprah, Obama, Ellen DeGeneres (she was controversial in the end), and even Mr. Beast all rely/relied on hope and happiness. If you are relying on the drama of the day, your show will fade when the drama fades 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BigJoe2.0]

This was unnecessary from Jay but RG3 stunk when he decided to change his game. Even when he was a backup for Ravens he was terrible.

[@tramellthatsenough8659]

😂😂😂not a pidgin, that was a good one

[@brandonriddlesprigger8754]

Shannon be dropping jewels...

[@dre7340]

Ocho taking out the notepad and pen for Unc😂

[@ZanaHawleri]

I'd buy a book of "sayings" from Unc and Ocho lol

[@dfavor9253]

Ocho too funny, always writing down something 😂

[@JermainColbert119]

When y'all gonna talk about that SNL skit.😂😂😂😂

[@LaineyRae]

I can't wait until they talk about it tonight now that I'm sure they've seen it 🤣

[@NannaP27]

They did last night! Check the clips on the main page

[@thecomediankodybean]

I’m just shocked that McVay McDaniels LaFluer and the shannahans didn’t know how to coach wasn’t the bigger story lol

[@DexterJones-e7r]

Jay Gruden fired shots at RG3 about Cleveland and Baltimore not wanting him but he didn't get another head coach job either so none of the other teams saw him as a head coach because he's not. RG3 won the offensive rookie of the year award but Jay Gruden didn't win a coach of the year award. I rest my case.

[@aaronalvarado2481]

“RG111 is a cornball brother” - Rob Parker

[@jiriya7764]

Ocho is me when it comes to Unk quotes

[@roblegault4587]

Shannon is motivating to us Star Wars fans to hit the weights with the way he’s wearing that shirt. Dudes still jacked.

[@terricksilva661]

Had they not had him play on that knee

[@dedrickdavis464]

Two things... thanks Unc

[@reggiep6471]

RGIII was rookie of the year, over Andrew Luck. They put RGIII in the game when he was injured and limping and called plays for him to run the ball even when he was injured.

[@SillyGoose2024]

griffin told them he wasnt coming out of the game AND he was cleared to continue in the game by the team doctor....the person who is actually resonsible for that decision (not the coach)

[@reggiep6471]

@@SillyGoose2024 When you see that your qb is clearly limping, why would anyone call a running play for the qb who clearly can’t walk right? That makes absolutely no sense. He could throw the ball but why try and run him when he is obviously hurt?

[@MarioSalinas-mb4mk]

You all need to go live during some NFL games and commentate for real

[@119nguyen]

They should ask, Shanahan, McVay, Laflaur and McDaniel 😳😳 they were all there that year!

[@christiancreasy5268]

Jay wouldn't say this about RG III before that career threatening injury.

[@empirebbk]

Shannon Shatpe's Greatest Quotes presented by Chad Ochocinco NYT Best Seller

[@Innovate22]

What about RG3’s daddy who dictated terms to the Shanahan’s and Ownership that his boy needed to be coached to be a pocket passer like Rodgers. RG3 was completely exposed as a pocket passer and spent the remainder of his Washington career blaming teammates and coaches. The coaching staff under Mike happened to be one of the most successful ever assembled but clearly RG3’s daddy knew better.

[@isaiahcollins96]

Why does Jay Gruden gotta apologize???? RG3 called him out first. Also Jay Gruden didn't take over until RG3's third year in 2014 for those who wanna say he got RG3 hurt against Seattle.

[@kadabur]

Fav sports Unc and my fav #85

[@BetterCallHutz]

Ocho better damn publish that book of quotations 😂

[@CallowXayne]

I think Gruden knew who that tweet was meant for even though he didn't say RGIII's name. Maybe RG should have responded the same way.

[@gdub7347]

#85 StaY pulling out that book 😂

[@RochellB46]

Ocho and his book of quotes

[@delroymckoy3879]

Keep that same energy coach when you meet up

[@sonjakennedy312]

Another thing for Gruden, YOU FAILED AS A QB FOR THE COMMANDER'S! Had to go to the Sensitive League for Arena ball😂😂😂😂😂 In other words a flag football bish

[@sandrajackson4732]

Ocho and this notebook. He stay writing stuff down. Wait a minute I got to write this down

[@samrucker9010]

Chad said he ain't never had a problem with head coaches... BS I'm From Cincinnati

[@Kat_Dadi]

He sucked in Cincinnati, so how did that validate him getting the Washington HC job?? Living off his brother's fortune...who benefitted off Coach Dungy!! 2 over-rated coaches!!

[@noetoledo8501]

Not all athletes are the same after an injury you either get better or you get worse and in RG3'S case he got worse. Not everyone's body heals the same. Remember RG3'S dad went to Shanahan and tried to tell him how to utilize RG3'S skills what worked and what didn't work for his son. You dont go the coach and say you ain't using my son right. RG3 wasn't in pee wee league anymore he was playing with the big boys now. If he didn't prepare himself like should have maybe he would have had a chance to play again, but like i said that knee of his didn't hold up like it should have.

[@cassandragarcia-ortiz91]

Can I be the plus one to the Super Bowl?

[@donnelldorsey8544]

Forgive me if I forgot but what did Kirk Cousins do in Washington? Has he even won more than 1 playoff game? How many division titles? Idk what this Cousins hype is about! Hes been an average QB at best! Between 15-25 ! Its sad that RG3 got injured and tried to come back and ended his career as a Pro bowl caliber player in the process!

[@brandonreed8863]

To be honest, they are both at blame for not having more success. and the fact that they are feuding now is childish and the reason why both of them didn’t get their full potential

[@carlstokes9834]

Let me translate what Gruden was saying…… I don’t like how my brother was treated and so this is a little get back. RG was good enough HOWEVER Kirk looked and thought like you which made communication EASIER I don’t mind you speaking your truth but you have to man up and say it in the moment..

[@jacoballen4189]

Ocho gonna have 7 notebooks slap full by the end of 2024.

[@hurricane5125]

Rg3 already knew it he just put a stamp on it

[@Josh-pj4ge]

I need a notebook to start noting some stuff down too nah

[@chasmcgregor001]

We all know its not rg3 fault he got injured. He was ready to play with a fucked up knee but his coaches ultimately shouldve benched him until he was healthy

[@jesusblanco7657]

You also can’t get time back lol

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

It’s not like Jay Gruden lied though

[@ebrown9345]

On the Raw Room podcast there was a guest who played at Baylor and Robert thought he was walking on water like King Jesus on Campus. So he's been brainwashed to think that he was better than he actually was 🤭

[@Thecoochincanoocheecreek]

“iT wAsNT a pigeoN!”

[@daisyhenry332]

Shannon ...please dont repeat that a MAN called you "Sweetheart"😂...I can hardly take Ocho when he says "Stay with me BABY"...Baby...Sweetheart....Nooooooo

[@piscessaga]

Book of quotes by Shannon sharpe, as compiled by ocho cinco

[@matthewthompson4754]

Idk what the problem is. In his first tweet he literally said "if I ever put a QB thru what Jalen is going thru, I apologize." RG3 the one acting like a child posting pics with his responses. All this passive- aggressive shit is child behavior.

[@roberthamilton3231]

Real definition of my face card get me in

[@fiascostew5001]

Ocho writing stuff down lol we should all write stuff down too take notes here people when unc speaks

[@QUEENSBRIDGE_10TH_ST231]

Telling him to go race a pigeon is hilarious tho. 😂

[@Positepro02]

😅😅😅😅

[@Germanicus-]

Ocho writing down the facts 😂

[@ebrown9345]

Guess you didn't actually watch his progression decisions when he was QB1 in then NFL.Never elevated his skill level from College to Pro!

[@ZiggyDoom]

Ocho kids gonna hear all them gems he got from Unc😂😂😂

[@randywatson1296]

Jay will never get another coaching job talking like that 😂

[@RonJP-pm7jp]

Man relax. He talking about RG3 not Brady or someone prestigious but you right he’s not going to be a coach again because he sucks.

[@sterlingwilliams8645]

He won’t get another coaching position because of the events that led to Alex Smith’s leg injury. Some wild wild shit happened that led to that

[@mrOchom]

No one ever hiring a Gruden again _

[@cameronmonroe9637]

@@RonJP-pm7jphe still isn’t getting another job . He was a SUBPAR coach and that’s being very nice . He isn’t bringing a winning culture .

[@tufoinproductions]

I don't think he wants to coach in the NFL again anyway

[@karoantatum4156]

This the best podcast duo out there ocho letting Shannon sharp be a big brother to him is nice to see

[@L.R.KNIGHT]

I love that ocho is always willing to hear unc out too

[@karoantatum4156]

facts @@L.R.KNIGHT

[@priztucker]

I need to be at one of Unc’s family cookouts. Imagine the amount of gems you gonna leave with😂

[@alexcorona]

Gruden talks like he’s a Super Bowl winning coach 😂 that’s your brother not you!!!

[@timothy8484]

You’re acting as if rg3 was a starter for more than 4 years

[@gamerkahuma5686]

Same playoff win duh ​@ncwavey1952

[@jaxjr121]

Hey yo Ocho......them shades go hard!!! I like them joints!! 👀 🏁💯

[@grip1003]

Shay yo ass been coughing da last 2 weeks. Boy u aite😂😂😂

[@snowyshaw1968]

Shannon always has the wisest phrases

[@rkid727]

People forget that Shanahan didn’t want to play RG3 the next season after he hurt his knee because he felt he wasn’t healthy enough. RG3 forced his hand. He wore antagonizing shirts during warmups so Shanny played him and he was never the same. RG3 is the reason RG3 sucked. No one else. The proof is Kirk. Kirk had the same coaching and is still playing and playing well.

[@certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224]

Didn't help that his dad was in the building putting on that extra pressure.

[@rkid727]

@@certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224 Kyle and Mike created a whole different playbook for him as well. While they didn’t want him to be drafted, it’s not like they sabotaged him either. They tried to make the best out of a typical bad Dan Snyder situation. It’s easy for fans and Ocho to defend RG3 because that’s what they do, but it’s simply not logical.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

I don't get how everyone thinking a torn ACL ruined his career at QB whereas Brees blew out his throwing shoulder and still came back better.

[@TopGKev]

He thinks he’s slick with his comments on social media, Meg his match and I’m glad people hold him accountable for his own career downfall

[@CSwivel]

@@Aaron-kj8dvfacts don’t matter shhhhh

[@boomshot24]

chad and his damn notebook LMFAO

[@vna199]

RG3 was raw tell he got hurt don’t forget

[@RonJP-pm7jp]

It wasn’t the injury that did it my guy. It was RG3 he got the big head.

[@montana593]

Omg he be having ocho taking notes like he in class these two need to stop 😂😂😂😂

[@TheTruthS.B.]

The play that killed RG3's career and confidence was the dropped bomb by Garcon.

[@jackwoods9604]

If a Dropped Pass Can Shatter a Young QBs Confidence and Career He Should Not be Anywhere Near Professional Sports

[@TheTruthS.B.]

@jackwoods9604 it definitely can when your confidence is already low.

[@TheGr8tstevrmntion]

They really did ruin his career. Played him while he was hurt. Terrible play calling. He was and is a terrible coach. Terrible organization. In s better situation he’s a star. Yall forget who he was frfr

[@Unpackaged_Vinyl]

RG3 was in too toxic of a situation to be successful. Gruden wasn't the right coach to develop him after everything that happened. Gruden had ties with the Shanahans via Bruce Allen. He likely came into that situation with preconceived notions. The whole thing was doomed to fail as he was drafted by a coach that didn't want him and drafted his replacement in the same draft. They were waiting for him to fail. He made his share of mistakes but they did a 180 on him after 2012. Considering what he sacrificed, I'd be mad too.

[@deon3133]

Rg3 had one good season. Kirk was a better qb than him. 7 years 3 different teams.

[@mustermas]

@@deon3133both no super bowls incel

[@Unpackaged_Vinyl]

Griffin always had the higher ceiling of the two but Cousins was a better fit for the West Coast Offense. Cousins definitely ended up the better QB. I think Kirk was more decisive than the 2013 and after version of Griffin but Cousins had many rough outings when he was throwing ints left and right. A lot of QB success comes from buy in on all sides. I don't think Griffin ever had that. Nobody will dispute that Kirk was better than the version of RG3 after his injury but Cousins was definitely preferred by Gruden. I never think I've seen such a quick hook on a 2nd pick in the draft. Especially a rookie of the Year. Lastly, let's not act like 2012 RG3 didn't beat teams with his arm as well. Especially on Thanksgiving. I've seen him be decisive but he definitely lost his confidence after the injury which I think made him more insecure and indecisive. I'd still take the pre injury Griffin over Kirk though.

[@orlandosantiago4063]

@@deon3133RG3 sprained his LCL on week 14 of his rookie season, won offensive rookie of the year and only threw 5 ints and had a QBR of over 102. Goes into the wild card game with a knee brace and a limp and still balled out until he tore his LCL, ACL and meniscus at the same time. And still made it back before the start of the next season to be rushed on the field. And that’s RG3s point, he played off a bad injury when he should’ve been healing. Your husband Kirk cousins was there as a back up, he just happened to be a decent QB

[@deon3133]

@@orlandosantiago4063 rg3 3 teams in 7 years. Kirk cousins 98 qbr average in 12 years. Almost 40k yards passing. Sorry but ill take kirk over rg3 any day.

[@blaketindle4703]

“Go race a pigeon.” 💀😂