Nightmare Double Black Diamond Ski Trail Blue Mountain Ski Area (2014/2015 season)

[@oldgregg9074]

There are two things you can be sure of in the world: Death, and West coast skiers making sure everyone knows that Ontario's most difficult runs would only be Blues in the mountains.

[@WebReels]

I was waiting for the double black diamond run. Where was it??

[@aztecterp]

In my pocket ;-)

[@aztecterp]

@@dansprague2 the mountain are indeed different in the west, especially Colorado and Utah. I've never been to Wyoming but hear that Jackson's Hole is the hardest place to ski in the nation. Nevertheless, you've gotta ski where you can, right? Glen Plake makes a point that any skiing is good skiing. We all dream of back bowls and other cool stuff, but we ski where we can. I hope you are having a great season :-)

[@aztecterp]

@@dansprague2 Blue Mountain in Ontario must be beautiful with the Bay. West Coast skiing is different. It's not necessarily more difficult, given the amount of ice in the East. Pennsylvania has smaller mountains than Vermont. Vermont has some really good skiing, with long runs. Of course the difference is the altitude. By the way, Abasin is my favorite place to ski in Colorado. Utah is awesome too. I love Snowbasin, Snowbird, and Alta :-)

[@aztecterp]

@davidparkowski I can't wait to go there! I've been to Montreal and Quebec a couple of times and love it there. I've seen pictures of Tremblant and it's beautiful. Thanks for the advice :-)

[@paulgutermann8413]

In general, trails are rated in relation to the other trails on the mountain. There is no objective standard applied from resort to resort. That being said, the mountains are higher in the Rockies than they are in the Appalachians and, correspondingly, the slopes can be steeper. The terrain is also different, with rock faces, bowls, couloirs, etc. There are any number of very tough trails in the East and you may have to factor in icier conditions. Still skeptical? Just google Tuckerman’s Ravine.

[@notreubensandwich]

This would be a blue in my local ski resort on Van Island. The entry to double black runs are way steeper, narrow and you start with a free fall and then head straight into the tress. I knew that the ratings are mountain-specific but never realized it would be so drastic between East Coast

[@aztecterp]

It's not just East versus West. In New England there are mountains that have very challenging runs. For instance, there's a triple black diamond in Vermont (Smuggler's notch). With respect to mountain specific, at times there is variability within mountains. For instance, at Breckenridge, a Blue run at Peak 6 is steeper than a black run at peak 8 (off the lifts). I think the mountain administrations do their best to keep people safe, and that's why they have the mountain ratings.

[@headstockrider]

yeah..and if it's Mt.Washington in Courtenay...it's called "peanut butter" snow because it is as wet as the Coastal rain from Tofino's beach.

[@alexn7048]

i agree

[@AMac815]

What an awesome long run to get into a carving groove. Looks fantastic!

[@aztecterp]

It's definitely one of the more fun runs we have at Blue Mountain :-)

[@dano7079]

Green, blue, black, double back it doesn’t matter. Looked like good snow and a fun run.

[@aztecterp]

It's all about having a good time. Wednesday I was skiing beautiful snow at A-Basin in Colorado. Today I skied end-of-the season snow at Blue. I had fun in both places :-)

[@jwright320]

I ski there a lot. You passed Challenge trail(the double black) , the one closed with orange tape. The one you were on was Paradise, a long green trail.

[@aztecterp]

This one is Nightmare. Paradise is to its right :-)

[@kevinmacfarlane4872]

@@aztecterp It looks like nightmare is through the trees...

[@cobrak1ngs]

@@aztecterp no its not

[@aztecterp]

@@cobrak1ngs it is nightmare. I work at Blue Mountain :-)

[@jaceeorta]

Is blue mtn open already!?

[@JCAH1]

There is not the slightest chance in hell that this is a double black diamond run.

[@aztecterp]

It is. Now, if you mean that you believe it shouldn't be one, that's different. Is it really hard for you and others to understand that ratings are mountain specific? What's a double black at one mountain can be a black or even blue at some other mountain, say at Snowbird in Utah. The management of a ski area has to protect its skiers. Otherwise skiers would ski beyond their ability and there'd be lots of injuries. That's it. I appreciate your comment :-)

[@sohlbergk]

@@aztecterp Yes, ratings are mountain-specific, but the pitch on nightmare is *much* less than on razors edge or challenge. I don't think it is even as steep as widow maker, which is single-black-diamond. Sometimes they let the right half of the top section or nightmare get moguls, but I agree with those who say it should not be double-black-diamond. Folks might ski it, get a false sense of ability and get into trouble on the steeper runs.

[@aztecterp]

@@sohlbergk I agree. Now, though, it's a terrain park with nice jumps and lots of features. My guess is it's rating is for the moguls that usually populate the top right side. This year, no moguls, only features.

[@colasalz2]

@@aztecterp wait, so you have to translate the ratings in every ski resort? I dont get it. Ok, if it is double black or single black, is not that big of a difference, but if a double black can be blue... that is stange. Normally, the black runs are a lot steeper than blue ones. up to 42 %...so what are you talking about.

[@aztecterp]

@@colasalz2 it's true. For instance, Mineral Basin in Snowbird has single Black Diamond and Blue trails that are steep as heck. In fact, there's a trail Big Emma that I is Blue up top, and green from the middle to the bottom. That trail would be a Black Diamond in other resorts. The ratings are to protect the skiers more than to placate egos :-)

[@chrishintz1077]

Killy racing down the hill to his home in Val -d’Isere. ;)

[@chrishintz1077]

Thanks for video. Vicarious skier here.

[@drleishaobo]

guys, don't take the slope rating system so seriously. It's not about the steepness of the slope you can ski, coming down from the hardest double black doesn't necessarily prove that you are a good skier (an average intermediate skier can carefully descend from any double black). It's about how you ski.

[@aztecterp]

This is so true! My skiing down that run is proof. Back then, I was in my early stage of skiing and wanted to show that I could navigate down the run, but I wasn't skiing well. Skiing the way I did, I was off balance. That's how people get hurt. These days, I spend more time working on my skills. I take PSIA clinics, have the CARV system to improve my skiing, and only ski steeper runs when I feel like taking a break from training or when I'm with family or friends who want to do it. Skiing is fun but the goal is to master skills first. It makes skiing sooooo much more fun :-)

[@katiebrunelle3093]

excuse me sir what kind of double black was that?

[@aztecterp]

It's the kind that has two black diamonds on the sign next to it ;-)

[@djizzah]

looks nice and relaxing nice day and all that but not double black, still you're enjoying yourself so good for you

[@aztecterp]

Thanks :-) That's what skiing is all about

[@dollazNzentz]

Lol where’s the double black? That’s a cat track.

[@cosmicwaffle8572]

looks flatter on a go pro

[@aztecterp]

@@cosmicwaffle8572 Now Nightmare and dreamweaver are a terrain park. It's pretty awesome. Lots of big jumps and features all the way down.

[@hunyuan8045]

dream weaver starts at 1:37

[@futurep7083]

Wow 6 years man this is old but awesome

[@aztecterp]

Yeah, and it still gets a lot of views. KZbin is awesome :-)

[@Mrseriousdude]

I like how the double black is groomed nicely, lots of tracks, easy accessibility, green level classification.

[@allygator616]

Womp womp 😢

[@dueldemiurge]

nightmare?

[@ishadisks7769]

why does double black looks like a blue run at whistler lol

[@aztecterp]

It probably would be. This video is interesting because the run was missing the usual features or bumps. In peak season, it either has bumps or big features. That's why it's double black :-)

[@nickrocksify]

Is blue mountain just always icy af lol

[@aztecterp]

No, but it was yesterday because of the wind. The wind blew snow off certain trails. For instance, Burma Road was a sheet of ice. It's part of being a winter sport in the East. You know what they say at "Ski the East", born of ice!

[@nickrocksify]

@@aztecterp yeah I usually ride at bear creek I find since it’s a smaller mountain they usually keep it maintained really well, plus I mostly stay in the park anyways. Hopefully we can get some real snow next week, looks cold!!

[@aztecterp]

@@nickrocksify I love Bear Creek. I haven't skied there this season yet. Last year I spent two full days there for a skiing test, and it was about 60 degrees. I had a great time. Bear Creek is also one of my favorite places for a hike in the summer :-)

[@cjjenson8212]

Welcome to eastern skiing 2 days after a storm.

[@van5053]

i just went down that slope, i thought it was just a diamond.. it was my very first time to

[@aztecterp]

Generally this run has moguls on the right and a thinner strip on the right. I hope you had fun skiing!

[@user-vt7zo4wz5g]

My first time skiing I went to Shawnee I was Alr on the black diamonds I fell most the time. I don’t think I coulda done the double 😂

[@aztecterp]

@@user-vt7zo4wz5g lots of people go straight for black diamonds the first time they ski. As a ski instructor, I show the doubles from our learning area and tell skiers that if they stick with skiing, one day they'll be able to do it, but not today :-)

[@jasperamirante6490]

@@aztecterp If you are claiming to be a ski instructor I really hope you're not the person who filmed the video...

[@aztecterp]

@@jasperamirante6490 I am a ski instructor indeed. So, I ask humbly. Do you believe people are not capable of improving? If so, you don't understand the art of learning. People don't just start skiing and all a sudden ski like Bodi Miller. When I filmed that video, I was not yet a ski instructor, just a dude with a camera. I am an instructor now. I filmed this in the 2014/2015 season. I started teaching in the 2017/2018 season. At Blue Mountain Resort, we get training all the time. So, we all keep getting better as time passes. Skiing is so much fun, isn't it? :-)

[@Fire76863]

As someone used to nice mountains, this looks like a green to me lol.

[@aztecterp]

Every rating is mountain specific. Blue Mountain is a very nice place to ski. You should come by if you are in the area. It's not as big as mountains in the West or in the Alps, but it's a great place :-)

[@onevideonly]

Great Video! I looked at all the comments of people saying that this ia a blue and those people don't get that ratings are mountain specific. I feel West-coast skiers always make fun of east-coast skiers for calling runs like these "Double Blacks", but Blue mountain has way harder double blacks like razors edge, challenge, and falls, if these people want to complain about nightmare not being steep enough, then they should just ski some other trails or go somewhere entirely, and not thrashing on mountains that they probably live more than 1,00 miles away. But anyways, Props to you, I would have crazy replying to all the comments explaining to people that ratings are moutain-specific. PS: I just went up to blue mountain and saw these trails called Blue Baumer Glade and Sleepy Hollow Glade but I couldn't find them when I got there, do you know anything about them?

[@aztecterp]

Thanks for the comment. I just came back this morning from skiing Colorado. Everything is mountain specific. People discussed differences in ratings between Colorado mountains. For instance, Loveland is a very difficult mountain to ski. Before hitting the slopes, one individual told me that Loveland is demoralizing because one comes in feeling like a good skier and leaves deflated. He said, blues at Loveland are like blacks at other local resorts, such as Vail. Skiing around Loveland, I agree. Everything is mountain specific. The glades you are looking for are next to Lazy Mile (Blue Baumer glade) and Mainstreet (Sleepy Hallow; left). They may not have been open because of lack of snow. Blue Baumer is especially popular. Thanks for the comments :-)

[@allygator616]

Those glades are near the top of Lazy mile and you’re better off avoiding them when it hasn’t snowed in awhile cause it gets kinda sketchy in there

[@onevideonly]

Thanks for the tip! and I haven't been to blue this season, so I never got a chance to ski the glades when there was snow. I hope I can try them soon.

[@ZynTig]

Even if I was a total beginner and only had like 1 week of experience on the slopes I would’ve done that. I thought runs on blue mountain were supposed to be steep

[@aztecterp]

They are steeper than lots of mountains near by

[@Spreadislam612]

This is actually green he just put double black as click bait

[@aztecterp]

@@Spreadislam612 it's a double black. You may not believe it qualifies as a double black, but it's a double black. You are welcome to see the trail map 🙂

[@the6ig6adwolf]

The only thing that makes that a double black is the 3 inches of ice you're skiing on.

[@austintwardus2009]

all i have to say is that this is a 16 degree slope.... borderline green.

[@aztecterp]

My guess is that it was labeled black for various reasons. First, it's next to two steep runs, including a race hill. Second, the steeper part is generally filled with moguls or large jumps. Third, despite being less steep than the two neighboring runs, it's a steeper run. There's a green trail next door, Paradise, and people can enter the trail from Paradise, avoiding the steepest part. Yet, it is what it is, a double black. All ratings are mountain specific :-)

[@SgtTonka]

if that's a double black i've been skiing 1b blacks my whole life

[@zackbenczkowski8402]

Looks like a blue...

[@aztecterp]

Depends on your mountain. Mountain ratings are mountain specific. A Double Black in PA would be a blue in Utah or in some New England resorts ;-)

[@zackbenczkowski8402]

@@aztecterp well I’m from western ny

[@aztecterp]

@@zackbenczkowski8402 I'm sure you've got some great mountains out there :-)

[@zackbenczkowski8402]

Honestly the resort you have is much much bigger than mine, just less steep. Might just be because it’s on camera because in real life it always seems a lot steeper. Like the video tho!

[@aztecterp]

@@zackbenczkowski8402 Thanks! I see you race. Blue Mountain has the best race slope in Pennsylvania. Last winter we held a FIS event here.

[@YoastKaBoom]

It sounds a little icy.

[@aztecterp]

That's PA for you :-)

[@thomasconboy4636]

Always a bit icy it’s pa

[@aztecterp]

@@thomasconboy4636 Eastern skiers are "born on ice"

[@Mrseriousdude]

I read the sign it is indeed a Double Black Diamond, but how?- Like I said in my previous comment it is super easy accessibility, looks groomed kinda lol, I don't see any moguls, the steepness is non existence. (Where is this ski resort located?)

[@aztecterp]

It's a small section of the trail that's rated double black. For one, it's next to two longer and steeper double blacks. Generally, the first part is filled with either moguls or jumps. On that day, there were neither. Still, as always, the ratings are mountain-specific. What's a black run at Blue may not be a Black in another mountain. What's a green at Blue may be a blue run at another mountain :-)

[@pinnokeyo]

I’ll add two points to what he replied as well. First, it’s really hard to gage steepness on video because cameras are generally parallel to the slope, and white snow makes shadows and depth hard to see. Secondly, idk if you’ve been to blue mountain before, but it is ICY a lot of the time. I’ve never skied out west before so I can’t fully compare the two, but thought that’s worth calling out.

[@jimmydingo7138]

Yeah, I was gonna say, "what double black diamond run"....didn't see one-

[@aztecterp]

I didn't make the ratings. I was told it's double black because it's usually divided in half with one half being either moguls or terrain park features, and the other half being groomed. That leaves less space for skiers not interested in those features :-)

[@jakub151]

Is this steeper then it looks in the video?

[@aztecterp]

Yes at the top. This year it's a terrain park. So, the initial straightaway has a jump on the right and is clear on the left. Once done with Nightmare, and you are on Dream Weaver, there are lots of features.

[@cjjenson8212]

No.

[@vincentgrimaldi3652]

nightmare because you're sliding, not carving

[@aztecterp]

True at that time (2015). I am a work in progress. Skiing is definitely not an easy sport to master, especially when you learn late, like I did at 47 years old (57 now). Still, even being able to manage those trails that way made for a nice day :-)

[@autumnbrandon174]

Damn how did I do that I remember I did it last winter it was so easy and it looks hard

[@aztecterp]

Camera angles?

[@projectmilk3267]

That's because most of the parts of nightmare have ramps. This was SEVERAL years ago and seemingly don't have the ramps that nightmares have now which take up most of the first part of the slope and are spanned across almost the entire slope with the exception of a narrow space

[@calsurf21]

It's nightmare - but it isn't a double black diamond run (obviously).

[@aztecterp]

You may not believe it should be double black, but that's what it's marked. Thus, it's double black. There is a difference between belief and reality, obviously.

[@Victoria_skiss]

today we have learned that go pros/cameras make things look not steep

[@aztecterp]

Yup, one has to be there to get good perspective 🙂

[@memebeam8131]

I was boutta say if that’s a double black diamond they couldn’t handle the black diamond at the ski resort I got

[@aztecterp]

This run is usually half as wide with one half being either moguls or a terrain park. That's why it's double black.

[@gimics4966]

I went down like a blue mode thingy I don’t remember and i fell and cried

[@gimics4966]

I am a kid

[@aztecterp]

@@gimics4966 as long as you had a good time, it' all good :-)

[@shane.n2511]

How steep would you say this was in comparison to razors edge

[@aztecterp]

A lot less steep. Nightmare is the first part of a dual run. It starts with a straightaway and two awesome turns that you can speed through. It then merges with dream weaver (a blue that can get icy). The "double black" part is pretty simple. I think it's a double black because it's often split into a arrow run and moguls.

[@shane.n2511]

@@aztecterp ohhh thanks for the clarification, I’ve done almost every trail at blue mountain and I’m looking to try razors edge this year

[@aztecterp]

@@shane.n2511 I think it's one of the most fun trails top to bottom. Mid to late winter, Blue adds ski cross features to dream weaver, making it a bit tricky, but on a good day it's awesome!

[@iLoveLamp222]

Double black diamond in my mind means "is the even possible?" This run is a Blue, ppl are zooming past you

[@aztecterp]

There's a difference between what we believe and what is. It's a double black whether you think it should be or not. That day when I skied the run, there was nothing on it but groomed snow. Normally, it has features or bumps. As far as people passing me, that's because I sucked when I took that video ;-)

[@sofifr]

I am in PA! I also ski at Blue Mountain!

[@aztecterp]

Excellent! Best skiing in all of PA

[@sofifr]

@@aztecterp yep! It's a very good skiing place!

[@limjahey1670]

When will blue Moutain open?

[@sofifr]

@@limjahey1670 Probably when COVID ends or when the cases decrease

[@aztecterp]

@@limjahey1670 Last year we opened before Thanksgiving. Most years it's been early December. Bad years (warm weather), it gets later. Let's keep our fingers crossed for an early opening!

[@zevieisenberg8175]

Didn't know I could ski a double black also then

[@Julia-ln5og]

This would be labeled a green or blue run in Washington, all the diamond runs are insanely steep and often lead into powdery areas with lots of tree's

[@aztecterp]

Your mountains are a lot larger than those in PA. That said, there are a lot of short and steep runs in PA. This one isn't but it has this rating because of its use. Generally it's either fitted with moguls or large jumps. See the video attached to this video for the current set up :-)

[@timothygermann780]

Trail ratings are referential only to the mountain they are on. This double black rating means its among the most difficult trails at this resort. Its not meant to be comparable to other resorts. Other resorts might have trails they rate as blue that could be steeper and more difficult than this DB, but easier than other trails at that resort.

[@oldgregg9074]

No way! I would've thought skiing down a mountain would be flatter.

[@Spreadislam612]

This is paradise green every beginner gets bored on it and that is only clinch bait

[@FreedomofSpeech865]

They are all their doing their thing and having phi e. I am never gonna be that good. I think you need to start out as a kid 😔

[@aztecterp]

Not so. You have to practice. I made this video 6 years ago. Three years later, I joined Blue Mountain as an instructor and they started fixing all my errors. Six years later, I and all of my fellow instructors are working on becoming better skiers, every day. Even our level 3 instructors (top level) work on getting better every day. If you can ski/or board better than an absolute beginner, you should join us as an instructor, and we'll help you achieve your goals. Moreover, you'll get paid to slide and get a season pass! That's a great deal :-)

[@cjjenson8212]

Oh yes you can! I had a student from India for a week at park city. Monday we spent on the flats, sitting down and how to get up after a fall, this to me is most important because not knowing the proper way to get up is the #1 reason for frustration in new skiers. By Friday, mind you it wasn't fast, Vivic spent the entire day going down black diamonds from Jupiter lift all day. Check out vids of Jupiter to see what it's like. Unless you have a medical problem, you too can stand on top of a white powder mountain with confidence and exhilaration 😎

[@rds990]

Double black ??? Where ?? Ratings are getting goofy today. The problem with that is people from these resorts go to say Jackson Hole, or Whistler and see "double black" and tell themselves they can ski it because they ski double blacks at home. That's nonsense.

[@aztecterp]

That would be a problem for sure. We need to teach skiers that ratings are mountain specific. As an instructor, I do.

[@idkactually8565]

Looks like a normal black diamond imo

[@FeralDaniel]

this is sidewinder no way its double D

[@aztecterp]

Don't compare it to other mountains. Compare it to other runs at Blue Mountain. No moguls on it yet, but it's half moguls for the most part.

[@sohlbergk]

Nightmare starts at 1:00. Note the trail sign skiers left.

[@aztecterp]

@@sohlbergk sometimes I start my videos at the lift. My goal is to let skiers know what to expect when they ski anywhere, from the lift to the end.

[@Robert_030]

Looks easy to me

[@juymz9841]

to everyone who skis blue awsome i ski it to but i'm 14. Every trail to me is super easy and not a challenge

[@aztecterp]

You are probably a very good skier :-)

[@alexn7048]

Thats not a hard run. Try skiing Dynamite at Mont-tremblant or couberts couloir at Jackson hole

[@aztecterp]

I've seen a lot of videos of Corbet's Couloir and it's awesome looking. I'm too old to do that, having started skiing late and having back issues. Still, nobody is trying to compare this run to Corbet's. Question. Do you think when one posts videos that one shouldn't post the name and rating of a trail? That's a rhetorical question of course. The answer of course is no. At any rate, thanks for the comment.

[@PacificSailing184]

This is no way a double black run. In Oregon this would be the marshmallow run.

[@aztecterp]

You could make s'mores :-)

[@mr.norris3840]

Are the difficulties different in Europe to North America? Cause in Europe, that would be a red run max, not a black one.

[@aztecterp]

Not really. It depends on the ski area. The idea is to protect skiers. This run would not be Black in many places in Vermont, Utah, or Colorado, for instance. It's not a double black diamond because of pitch. It has this rating because it's used for moguls or has features. On that day, it had nothing.

[@jhangzhou1762]

It's not about Europe or North America. For example, in BC Canada this would be a Blue run. However in Ontario Canada this is a Black run. It depends on each province or state.

[@jhangzhou1762]

No

[@jhangzhou1762]

No

[@the1ultimatet1u49]

thats a red at very most lol no way thats double black

[@abstractpaintz2348]

That is not a double black idk how its rated as one

[@aztecterp]

It generally has lots of big features on it. There was nothing there that year/day. Check out the description of the video. I posed a little clip from the chairlift of the features, particularly at the top :-)

[@abstractpaintz2348]

Ok thank you and also it’s cool that you replied

[@aztecterp]

@@abstractpaintz2348 You bet :-)

[@arjunpatil5276]

This would be a blue most places bud

[@aztecterp]

Okay Bud ;-)

[@thomasconboy4636]

That’s no double black you two run to the right of chalange

[@aztecterp]

It's not a very difficult run for a good skier. However, it has a very nice set of hard turns which, if there's nobody there, you can have some fun on. It turns into a blue run after the two turns (Dream Weaver). Dream Weaver can get icy but it's a nice run. Later in the winter, Dream Weaver turns into a ski/boarder cross run, with lots of fun stuff :-)

[@hunterbawlz]

Mans couldn't hold an edge if his life depended on it

[@aztecterp]

What does "Mans" mean? Skidding is fun ;-)

[@mcj0014]

@@aztecterp it’s slang for “the man”

[@aztecterp]

@@mcj0014 I'm old and don't always get the slang ;-)

[@mcj0014]

@@aztecterp it’s okay I understand

[@bc_dave]

Ummm no offence kid but... double black??

[@aztecterp]

I believe it's a double black because it's next two the other two double black diamonds. Then, it is usually filled with either bumps or features. This year it's all really nice features.

[@chadrew6]

That's not even a black diamond trail. It's an intermediate or green trail. This guy needs to press his knees forward and make te ski carve instead of sliding. He also needs to keep his shoulders perpendicular to the fall line. He should take some lessons.

[@aztecterp]

As you know, ratings are mountain specific. This run now has lots of features on it. May change soon as we are getting close to the end of the season. As far as your ski tips are concerned, thanks. Are you an instructor? If so, keep up the great work :-)

[@mitchmontzu9081]

2:13 aye

[@aztecterp]

? :-)

[@yup8895]

I think that's a. blue run

[@aztecterp]

It's not hard, especially if you ski out west or further north

[@thice220]

No way this is a double black diamond 😂😂

[@macbarrett3118]

Send harder.

[@sapling6536]

This dude is obviously a beginner based on how he skiis. Especially considering he’s on a greem

[@aztecterp]

Pretty much so. Just skiing a couple of years at the time of the video. Some people like me, though, push ourselves to improve. Thus, while one can stay on the bunny slopes their whole lives, I chose to move up. To improve, one must work hard and accept failures. Failure is indeed the key to learning. My failures at that time provided the feedback I needed to improve. Skiing is difficult to learn as a older person as, unlike kids, older folks have lots to worry about. Still, one can't live unless one learns to live :-) By the way, it's a double black but as everyone knows, ratings are mountain specific.

[@sapling6536]

@@aztecterp Ok? Then why’d you call it a black diamond?

[@aztecterp]

@@sapling6536 didn't you read the last sentence? It is a double black diamond. Ratings differ based on the mountain. Ratings are designed to keep people safe. I see many comments about the rating. I made a video on a run in Snowbird called Bassackwards. It's blue and has one part that's steeper than Nightmare. However, at Snowbird, that run doesn't compare to other runs that are black diamonds, such as Regulator Johnson or Mineral Basin as a whole. It's about safety and providing warnings for skiers. Now, why is Nightmare double black? Well, it generally has features on it or bumps. Thus, the width is halved. When I skied down it on that day, it was devoid of stuff. Hey, I enjoyed discussing this with you. Thank you for your pleasant tone. I get so many people who insult me for not skiing well down that run. Merry Christmas!

[@sapling6536]

@@aztecterp thank you for telling me that sorry I didn’t understand 😭

[@megablademe4930]

Tbh this looks pretty easy

[@aztecterp]

It all depends on where you are used to skiing. This year it was a terrain park all year, so this video doesn't represent it too well.

[@ollie3594]

Im black diamond

[@jarrodyuki7081]

green trail.

[@aztecterp]

If it was labeled green, there'd be a lot of people hurt. It's not a very difficult black, but it's certainly not a green. Think skier safety

[@jdberdugo]

:) That's not even a blue slope in Europe.

[@aztecterp]

Every mountain is different. Ratings are used to protect skiers, not for mountains to compete against one another. This run is generally used for a variety of purposes, including moguls and a terrain park. Thus, it's normally half as wide as it is in this video. Also, it depends on what mountain in Europe. They are not all the same :-)

[@bryn7704]

that's not a double black diamond - hell it's doesn't even look like a black trail

[@aztecterp]

As the saying goes, it is what it is :-)

[@MrTropheusguy]

lol double black. There’s none anywhere on that hill.

[@cjjenson8212]

Please!!! Whatever you do... For heavens sake, don't come out west.

[@aztecterp]

Why is that? You obviously know absolutely nothing about skiing and the learning process. What you do know, however, is how to make obfuscating and ignorant comment. You must have had great parenting.

[@skiinghenri]

I think watching this was the real nightmare...

[@aztecterp]

Yet, you watched. Well, it's almost Halloween, right? ;-)

[@ancientaidan]

🍪

[@jarrodyuki7081]

single diamond not double diamond definitely not double.

[@aztecterp]

As the saying goes, it is what it is. I ski Colorado and Utah regularly, and there are harder blues in some places than double blacks in the Mid-Atlantic. That said, ratings are mountain specific, and they are meant to protect novices.

[@frankyin720]

keep brushing

[@aztecterp]

What do you mean?

[@wisty2909]

Frank Yin do you mean turning?..

[@docestyles]

WTF

[@bartholemew4362]

Nightmare more like wet dream

[@aztecterp]

Isn't that better than a nightmare? ;-)

[@supernova7567]

I like that.

[@nely_ytb]

C’est quoi ce skieur,il est trop nul 😂

[@aztecterp]

Who are you, Shiffrin? ;-)

[@josephkellett476]

Did you dream u went down a double black. That was a green run. Work on your shape and colors.

[@aztecterp]

That's a good one :-) Must be the shrooms ;-)

[@deadlykilla39]

lol I just skiied the easiest level of skiing in big bear yesterday. i fell down like 20 times and basically failed hard. there is no way i can do the black diamond.

[@aztecterp]

Maybe not today, but with practice you can ski anything :-)

[@deadlykilla39]

@@aztecterp update on day 2: i finally mastered the pizza brake and finally did well on the bunny slope. thanks for the encouragement btw.

[@aztecterp]

@@deadlykilla39 Great! Next step is what we call a wedge Christie. As you turn downhill, you are in a pizza. Make your turn so that you go across the hill, like a J shape. When going across the hill (perpendicular to the fall line), bring your inside ski together with you outside ski. That's how you get parallel. Skiing is awesome!