NIGMA vs QUEST - MENA QUALIFIER - DREAMLEAGUE SEASON 23 DOTA 2

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NIGMA vs QUEST - MENA QUALIFIER - DREAMLEAGUE S23 DOTA 2
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[@sife1808]

It's so weird that Nigma had access to players like Miracle, Sumail and Ammar and still failed to produce results.

[@marioc200]

because miracle is ultra garbage maybe? he cant even farm properly even new tier2 carrys do something as basic as farming but overratedracle cant

[@rac8153]

Miracle is still good but Sumail has been super dissapointing. Just a lane focus player who has low impact after it. Rest of the squad is pretty subbar, kuro should have retired at the same time as RTZ

[@mirael1248]

I heard Nigma has been winning some games and I decided to watch 1 game of them after a long time. Nothing has changed.

[@gravity00x]

nigma won against LITERAL 3000 Mmr teams. This isn't even intended as an insult. They literally won against archon-ancient 1 teams. But everyone already said that once they are up against decent teams, they will absolutely lose.

[@nnk9305]

"Nigma has been winning"? They won one invitation and after that they lost to Rest Farmers and then most likely be eliminated on this Qualifiers Nothing new

[@chichiperalta09]

The 18:45 miracle play, is worth of a 2k player. Letting courrier die in jungle with bkb and then dying trying to farm some ancients, all while knowing they were chasing him.

[@witchhunted4297]

hahaha, his brain was done.

[@gurrenlagan8412]

I never see a player downfall so badly like kuroky, i just hope he can realize he cant compete in competitive scene anymore

[@cpilfold420]

Nigma is good. Quest is just very good right now as well. They could easily get top 5 at a big tournament. The way they played against falcon was truly elite in their last bo5. It's a testament to how competitive the scene is more than anything. But current nigma isn't bad

[@rue2127]

This is Dota 2 tier 1 tournament qualifier, every player is trying hard. Dota 2 Tier 1 is very competitive.

[@Robinnxx93]

@@cpilfold420they lost to rice farmers and dandelions both team are tier2 if you think current nigma isn’t bad go check their page

[@kablogs-zu4nk]

@cpilfold actually nigma is good too. Having TI champion players. But then, its just kuro who is wasting their talents as you can see in their first game. Kuro can only use invi for the team for the whole game. These type of nigma plays will not qualify again in TI

[@nnk9305]

Miracle and SumaiL is the biggest downfall ngl Kuroky already has been winning Tournaments in his DotA1 days and won TI,... Dude can retire and be a Coach since he's his old age now Miracle and SumaiL on the otherhand has tons of potential and still can win another TI like Topson, ana and Yatoro,... To have a huge downfall at an early young age after winning such big Tournament(TI) is just a waste If only Miracle and SumalL left Nigma much earlier they wouldn't be as washed up as now

[@hungnguyen12481]

Lost 2-0 to Farmers, then almost lose to Fun Gamers, and then lose 2-0 to Quest. This team is top 4 MENA at best my friends.

[@nurzulhafizyacob5118]

Nigma tier 5 team with Kuroshit Herald draft

[@fadli8226]

what makes them lose is supp 5, they don't understand how to play support, their safelane always loses early game ,which makes their safelane late to join the war, because they don't have enough items, you can see Kuroky always dies early and becomes food for enemy offlane and after that Kuroky left Miracle alone without defensive wards

[@jovinellonginos5436]

sneayking of Falcons also dies in game but still manage to win what are you talking about kuro😂

[@fadli8226]

@@jovinellonginos5436 what u mean ? Ofc if sneayking dies still can win why not ? Every match dota if support dies ofc still can win, who tell u if supp dies cannot win ? 🤣🤣

[@adrianopa1440]

I don't think their problem is skill. Look at game 1. They won most teamfights, and yet Quest's tier 2 towers were still standing! Meanwhile, Quest took every opportunity to take objectives, and soon they were taking barracks.

[@fadli8226]

@@adrianopa1440 Look at game 2, when Miracle needed support to get a last hit creep, what Kuroky did was try to gank mid without smoke and died by the enemy midlaner and he still didn't come back to help Miracle so Miracle ganked, and made the team tp to safelane to help , in the end the enemy midlaner and enemy safelane are very free

[@fadli8226]

They not post 4 btw, his job for taking care his carry till this carry can clear wave creep and jungle fast. I mean like sven have 1 item MOM maybe, but they leave his carry from mins 5 😂😂. U can ask your friend who playing for safelane, "What if your support leaves you from minute 5, even though you are having trouble in safelane against an aggressive hero? " for team falcon ofc easy if morph vs tide 1 by 1 but for kunka vs sven ofc little bit hard cuz this kunka can harras you with 2nd skill

[@jeffersonkoh9004]

The special relationship between Nigma and tide

[@realmoonknight]

No team coordination, nigma playing like some divine bracket.

[@bayumahendra1797]

As always, skip into the last part and........ Here we go again

[@bojii3703]

As soon as i saw the thumbnail i already know who won this series 😂😂

[@RedRanchu]

Honestly its so easy to read what Nigma's gonna do. They ALWAYS tp 5 heroes to side lanes. Quest noticed and picked Naga and just baited their TPs.

[@keirkicks]

Sumail with his pride not buying euls

[@febriliaadicandra7287]

I just want to see Miracle play with another pos 5. Started to think that it's not entirely kuro's fault they lost but also Miracle's. Always lost at laning phase, his farming pattern was shit. Just compare other Tier 1 teams to them. Their pos 1 always die at most 3 times each game even when they lost the game.

[@witchhunted4297]

Glad someone's opened their eyes eventually 🎉

[@rhythm9913]

OMG a sane Nigma/Miracle fan that actually can speak reason, you are a really rare species sir

[@tulky591]

Kuroky's positioning, items, and skill usage it is like a 2k player. Either he forgot the game or some ACC buyer is trolling ppl with his account. No one can be this bad and play on the pro stage. I'm a 3k player I can play better than kuroky or at least pick better sup heroes and items damn.

[@DragonNestR121]

He never play pubs tho thats why he bad

[@rohannair2099]

Falcon qualifies with EPT. NGX: Yes, Now we have a chance. QUEST: Or May be Not

[@Raiskyl_1453]

in 2024. You could see PSG vs Nigma! What a great reunion

[@errolanthonyrespicio9420]

Kuro still living in 2017-2018

[@witchhunted4297]

and Nigma fans

[@ghe-]

These casters brooo.... Primal Beast? Tree Volley? 9:18

[@nightking4736]

2nd game sumail puck is like sea mid player KEKW

[@NaTHGamin]

wtf is kuro doing

[@jomartcanlas6917]

Nigma < quest < Falcons

[@dimaanomacaisa8403]

Why didnt buy maelstrom from the start? Poor sumail

[@Nightknight1992]

2:10 wtf is miracle doing with his manta... saving it for next series?

[@yayokhang4623]

Tried to dodge glimpse maybe but the techies stun caught him offguard? I feel like that would be the normal thought process

[@Nightknight1992]

@@yayokhang4623 still no reason to die with it available, could confuse enough to get off a sunder

[@nitishkumarmahapatra4783]

Best part of Game 2 is. 5th pos support takes first blood and then feeds the offlaner so much he is fat than your carry by 15 minutes in game.

[@icewallowcome2536]

Bald Captain Dethroned King 🫣

[@TheSepl95]

The loosing streak continues ... last time Nigma was actually good when rmn played instead of kuroky.

[@whattaman14]

what happen to og again, there so good at previous tournament

[@n.maincl]

I just wanna see Miracle on Bali Major and TI😔 Nigma still losing for this team. If they can't win this team, how can they win other strongest teams? I'm losing my feeling about Miracle time by time. I supporting him everysingle time but he still keeping lose. Sadest thing in the world lol

[@wbgsci]

3k mmr draft 3k mmr plays. You know who I am referring to.

[@alkp1]

miracle has larger hero pool but for some reason they always pick same heroes

[@nikanol34]

Kuro Draft

[@alkp1]

@@nikanol34 3k mmr drafts

[@Leinad304]

lol so much cope

[@thepj4873]

Not every hero in meta

[@granma_dota]

Hero pool doesnt change anything if you are washed up my lil bro

[@space4552]

TIDEHUNTER STRAT IS STILL WORK

[@alienvisitor3612]

is it safe to say that Nigma have joined the ranks of tier 2 teams?

[@nhatanhnguyendang926]

They are

[@ahmadhafizkun8979]

Its been a long time since the last time ive played dota but isn’t mirana+shadow demon strat outdated.?

[@user-vh9xx4to2x]

nope

[@ahmadhafizkun8979]

@@user-vh9xx4to2x so people still play that strat in comp? Thanks for the info

[@lamtran2328]

Both heroes is currently in meta right now so its just natural to have them pick

[@ahmadhafizkun8979]

@@lamtran2328 aight thank you bro👊🏻

[@chasse-nigb3r]

Why would one of the best set up for mirana arrows be outdated? If the heroes are garbage in the meta rn is more of the concern but wombo combo and pocket and cheese strats like oracle/dazzle-huskar is always viable if the heroes are decently buff by the meta, stuff like items, talents and just buffs on the heroes are more important.

[@baunganmukho1800]

Like i would always watch Mike Tyson box i will always watch n njoy miracle n sumail play dota ...fk the results.....

[@fumlefinger92]

kuro XDXD and miracle also have no idea what he is doing but kuro just wow

[@kwamebrownofficial]

Miraclown is too heavy 😂

[@mlunguomnyama5518]

would be comical to have Team Nigma at Dreamleague anyway

[@sergio.ernesto]

No!ob is a beast

[@_r1r2]

i hope miracle go back to OG

[@Tauan_Vitor]

I really dont think OG/OG fans want him 😂😂😂

[@cornstv2751]

Can't expect anything from Kuro, he doesn't play rank game.

[@sawantamang5363]

Kuro need to play mobile legend

[@gustavobarron2948]

Time for Kuroky to go full coach mode

[@The6232888]

no plz not a coach even

[@zulhaimizoule1937]

Should just retire and delete Dota

[@sopheakmom3157]

kuro its time now

[@hellothere9167]

Miracle is getting the Abed treatment. Versatile heropool that would never play the same hero in row got reduced to 3 heropool

[@waljone8952]

What happen to your abad now? Can't even qualify to any qualifiers hahahaha

[@staneast3737]

best K-GOD

[@jaypee.casillan]

kuro will be nigma's curse

[@irfannazhan5653]

i feel old watching nigma. like how nokia falled now nigma (actually it already 4-5 years f***!!)

[@shina8767]

Kuroky gyro support is disaster lel 😅

[@Kkkkkkkkkkkkk236]

Dream job probably 50k/month plus living in a mansion

[@fahrulsetyoko9800]

new patch dota and still kuro draft meta🤣🤣

[@kentsky3680]

Now the problem they are facing is not even qualify to a single tournament..... Solution: 1.) Miracle- 2.) SumaiL 3.) FBZ 4.) Matthew 5.) gh Ticket for Major tournament secured. If not, see you Nigma on next year 2025. Just wasting their age and time.

[@kartikamaharani4900]

wake up, all nigma player was washed up

[@witchhunted4297]

Kuroky might be a part of the problem, but theres more into it. For an example, Miraclul.

[@hamzabinabid6752]

Literally how much can 2 players carry a shit draft and low tier teammates. Replace Kuroky, if you want Miracle and Sumail to have some pro career.

[@mr.brside3575]

Apparently miraclul n nigma cant qualified through mena qualifer they need to add another region to provided nigma and miraclul a chance.

[@blurry9744]

nigmas draft, I dunno, I dont see synergy anymore, sure coil into toss away is a small one, but the rest? nigmas drafts look like something out of 2005

[@Tak_09]

Nothing new here

[@Yuyuu97]

What a stomped

[@rafaelluppi9994]

tem ali magic skill damage

[@yashasupreme6308]

so nigma is out?

[@witchhunted4297]

not yet, lower bracket time

[@verdansk4761]

OP gyro pick 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nigma doesnt deserve a slot in any tournaments. There are many other better teams. At this rate, they should either disband or let kuro coach the dead team

[@Alextechville]

kuro wouldnt even be able to coach 1k mmr team with his 2k mmr

[@Aciel_Yu]

Did you know? When we say "Nigma is back" it acutally means Nigma is back to losing. The team never had any good results since their inception 😭

[@riansasminto]

Wthell.. im not good play dota 2 but Look at this supp pos 5. Why this man doesnt learn something and improving their game play? No deward? Left their carry afk farm? Gyro full supp?tide hunter? Wht this guy doing?jesus christ.. Even no hero meta? Im so sad but this is absolutly wild 😂

[@user-mm5hy3ob6i]

Kuro wont leave post 5 coz no other team will take him with his dumb draft

[@witchhunted4297]

and miracle?

[@user-mm5hy3ob6i]

@@witchhunted4297 even if you put TS players and give them limited hero choices or bunch of tb meta, it will be the same. They have sumail and mircle yet the draft pattern is the same.

[@witchhunted4297]

@@user-mm5hy3ob6i no, you said kuro wont leave cuz hes trash. so im asking what about miracle? why is here still here after not qualifying for almost everything if hes good?

[@EzClap95]

@@user-mm5hy3ob6iboth sumail and miracle are as trash as kuroky 😂

[@user-mm5hy3ob6i]

@@EzClap95 not really bro, check.his game with rtz. Sumail and Miracle still on high mmr to this day. Its just the outdated captain.

[@ane157]

classic

[@Ar0nMN]

before i click this video , I guess Quest will win . xD

[@makanna_id]

Gyro on Kuro. What a noob against them.

[@aldinalano9963]

Nigma, tier 3 team

[@N1NJ4P1R4T3]

Does nigma even want to play Dota anymore?

[@realmoonknight]

gyro support, tb carry, this kuro and his drafts.

[@mfiqryn]

Kuro’s draft.. wcyd 🤷‍♂️

[@damfacker1134]

Why a T5 team fighting a T1 team send them back to their deserve bracket.

[@dittogeryardhi4050]

Well... The draft really really bad for Nigma😮‍💨

[@andid2769]

Miracleeee is baaaackkkkk😅😅😅😅

[@witchhunted4297]

Miraclul and the king best duo BatChest

[@sharonarsyafa8061]

I think fbz

[@indraRR25]

miracle do not trust his pos 5. he always pick carry that has ability to farm fast because he knows he will lose lane with those noob.

[@frogman8908]

kuroky is the problem😂

[@stefaneg6139]

Spoiler warning: there are no spoilers

[@Techwabe]

Miracle is still the GOAT.

[@nhatanhnguyendang926]

Accept the truth.

[@vladpete2764]

"goat"? of random highlights, sure...

[@bullymaguire9863]

Kuro trash, can't deward obvious wards, miracle afk farming whole games. Nigma is playing 3v5, no wonder they lose, even with Sumail solo killing mid.

[@nikanol34]

There is no team, just 5 players trying to win on their own

[@user-ri4qf3to9t]

360P CLUB!

[@EzClap95]

miracle has played horribly in both games but 4k monkeys still blaming kuroky and his drafts 😂

[@Uru865]

He did but its the other teammates job to make him win lanes or if they don't win lanes at least provide some space for him because we all know a fully farmed Miracle is gonna carry the game but they change their gameplay to a slower pace which is not them because their previous 4 protect 1 gameplay is much better although they feed more often the enemies chasing and reacting to them would give Miracle so much space and time to farm more. This slow ass pace isn't it.

[@RabiRabii-fp1ft]

​@@Uru865cope more

[@nhatanhnguyendang926]

@@Uru865he cant anymore dude. Every players are individually equal or better than him, even supports players. This is not 2017 anymore.

[@Uru865]

@@nhatanhnguyendang926 I mean Miracle just did it in game 4 so I think it can happen here and there but obviously not everytime like it used to be but I know u get my point. Just the pacing of their game is throwing me off because I'm used to them playing fast and aggressively now everybody is just farming even the supports.

[@ducklinasmart6822]

Whose fault??

[@granma_dota]

Ur mom

[@barrymiguel3014]

I just don't know what to say..

[@Lala26845]

Nigma is back - 2030

[@barberismeable]

saddest team in Dota history

[@sebatiranus]

left kuro

[@simplevideosforsimplelife3080]

ez -1.5 on quest,, lol nigma got 0-2 by tier2 no name team before that match haha

[@miguelfernandez244]

Setso

[@colosuss3208]

Even sumail and miracle cant carry kuroky...

[@MohamadHuzairBinMunawer]

who tf is that commentator, sounding depressed af and not wanting to be there

[@scalarian1976]

i mean who the fuck wants to be here, watching nigma gameplay?

[@Ajhax_M]

Nooooo

[@Analdil]

nigma balls

[@GOATIGER87]

Kuro needs to go already. Wtf is he achieving like this???

[@majdalmohanna3038]

gh left mc left matu left w33 left and Kuro is still trying to make it work 🤦‍♂️ it's just funny at this point

[@witchhunted4297]

what about miracle?

[@majdalmohanna3038]

@@witchhunted4297 if Kuro retires everything should be better

[@Tauan_Vitor]

Jesus Christ, whata easy game 😮

[@Hustla_]

JESUS IS LORD !!!!

[@Robinnxx93]

😂😂😂

[@lhantful]

Sumail is washed to be called king at this point. Miracle needs to go back to mid.

[@MWilo]

Dont Bet for NIGMA... DONT DO IT... I LOST SO MUCH MONEY... JUST DONT... dont do it

[@stefanbulatovic4993]

imagine how 10 iq you must be to bet a cent on nigma🤣🤣🤣 worst garbage team in dota community

[@adithyamaedinattunfadrie2596]

Guess someone lost around 100 dollars or more here on the bet😅

[@witchhunted4297]

​@@stefanbulatovic4993istg whoever has hope for Nigma since covid era are all braindead. 😂

[@Uru865]

They qualify in Elite League because the draft is more diverse than this. How is Miracle only use TB and Sven tf is this draft? Its better in the past draft atleast the 4 protect 1 is better than this game play. Everyone wants to farm and the game so stale. The OG Nigma even with how bad Weeha plays sometimes would never let this happen to them. 4 should die always while Miracle goes ham on farm and clash that is the Original style of Nigma not this slow ass games.