Nijisanji Livers fanboying over Calli [VCR Rust ENG Sub - Ibrahim]

※ Virtual KZbinr(s)
イブラヒム / Ibrahim
‪@Ibrahim‬
Mori Calliope
‪@MoriCalliope‬
エクス・アルビオ / Ex Albio
‪@ExAlbio‬
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#Nijisanji #Hololive #MoriCalliope #Ibrahim

[@sayhitothelittlegonk1310]

We've gotten to the point where Calli has become famous as a cool singer for various promotional media. She deserves the recognition

[@cf7556]

I’m so proud of my EN oshi she works so hard she deserves all the love

[@rcane6842]

Though I'm not an avid follower of hers, I'm proud of her achievements👌🏻

[@BeforeON3]

Bro u underestimated how big is one piece in Japan.. no japanese don't know one-piece

[@WillardWright1986]

​@@BeforeON3 That is just false lol plenty of prefectures where it isn't even sold in bookstores + most of Japan's population are elder citizens who don't read manga and never will. I get you're probably a one piece fan but dont spread misinformation.

[@noraiou]

@@BeforeON3 That's a misinformation right there. Many Japanese people didn't even know about One Piece. Not only that, there's even a lot of Japanese people that didn't even watch Anime or read Manga. Hell, not only that, the Anime you watch or you think is so popular in your country or in the Global (outside Japan) internet media is actually NOT even popular in Japan and even Japanese themselves didn't even know about that popular Anime that you think it's pretty popular. Same as us, not all Japanese watch Anime or even VTuber. There's actually a lot of Normies than Otaku in Japan.

[@bondrewdthenovel3598]

"It's really an honor to talk to you. Allow me to show my respects" **Throws a chair at her**

[@Jubutsu_House_jr]

If I read this with no context, I would think I'm reading a WWE novel 😂

[@angkhoanguyen6114]

​@@Jubutsu_House_jr*Wrestling novel AEW and TNA included

[@pathos3542]

We live in a world where a VTuber can be a legitimate celebrity, signed to a major label record deal, doing anisongs. I love it.

[@tobubiify]

And they met also in a virtual world

[@anonymous68514]

Unfortunately, the singer and musician itself gonna be secondary option when the vtuber (majority streamer) become priority 😢

[@ozymandias1698]

​@@anonymous68514 it depends on the streamer itself tho, someone like suisei will focus on music career more meanwhile not streaming that much, streaming is the only way to make your name out there and making some connection to other vtuber

[@leecast1721]

And we love this part of this world. From being told "stop wasting time playing video games because there's no future from it" (even tho they encourage others who play physical sports because they can go pro), to E-sports, Dendi, Dota2, Other tourneys, Gamers becoming like celebs and getting ads, streaming, vtubers, music contracts, av, etc. What now past dead neighbor!? tHerEs nO mOney/fUtuRe fRom pLayIng vIdeO gAmeS

[@Micheldied]

​@@anonymous68514 that's not true. There way more people that know at least a few of Suisei's songs without even knowing the vtuber persona. I follow way more vtubers and virtual singers for their music than I do for the streaming side of things.

[@Meitary]

Calli now has celebrity status just like actual singers, mangakas and voice actors that join these VCR events.

[@jayoliver3568]

Bruh that's wholesome on so many levels ❤

[@mendics]

knew she was gonna go far, just goes to show how hard she worked to get there.

[@venomark7883]

I hope Gojo's VA joins here too Since he also plays VCR GTA too, imagine Gojo and Calli meeting🤣

[@itsEpi_]

​@@venomark7883 Gojo's VA didnt join VCR. He plays on STGR which is another GTARP server.

[@kkpasta7464]

​@@itsEpi_ He joined the last VCR GTA

[@ImClairek261]

ibrahim really just said "rival" hahha

[@rikterterran3833]

Haven't watched Ebio in years. Do they actually have a rival dynamic?

[@rainscents]

​@@rikterterran3833no, he just mean it because Abo said the same thing as him earlier about listening to her songs lol I think he just mean it as him doesnt want other to take the mount of being Calli fans or admirer or some sort.

[@ImClairek261]

@@rainscents yup. Ibrahim basically wanted to be the only fan present. Haha

[@dindachancamui3508]

​@@rikterterran3833 no, they are close friends and actually a duo, their duo is called "gomiz"

[@Nichoma]

He called him a rival and then immediately asked to get her number lol

[@Signout19]

0:52 the fact that he straight up says "please put this chair in your house for me to sit" lol

[@poundtown3429]

Another version of "Will you make miso soup for me everyday?"

[@jack-exzolt9858]

Having moved here in Shibuya 3 months ago, I can confirm that majority of Hololive talents here are basically celebrities of their own. Especially Gura, Calli and surprisingly enough, Amelia. They play Vtuber MV's on tv and most of them are Hololive talents. They even play Gura's Reflect and Kiara's Do U in convenience stores I've been in.

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

Surprising for Ame? I'm not an avid fan, but her Smol Ame in Japan was really popular a few years back, so I would imagine she'd be popular there by default.

[@yohfool1824]

I like to imagine Ame's popularity grew in JP due to smol Ame's antics during her holofes appearances lol.

[@Micheldied]

I've heard Marine's songs more than a few times in random stores in Tokyo. Outside of Tokyo though, not so much.

[@baizhu]

yeah, it's surreal. i visited japan recently, and i heard calli and marine's songs in normal, non-otaku shops and restaurants on multiple occasions lol

[@negnarddingus2613]

Why did you move to Shibuya? Work?

[@KratosConPelo]

Ebio listening to Calli's Godzilla? Damn my bro it's a fan, that song was from a stream, not a cover

[@justzanu9338]

Someone clipped it

[@KratosConPelo]

@@justzanu9338 yeah, i have that Calli clip in my yt music playlist lmao

[@KingOfYamimakai]

Dude's a certified Deadbeat(Calli's fanbase name not the actual Deadbeat with the not so nice meaning) if he actually watched Dad's stream when she rapped Godzilla.

[@blackfirehedgehog7725]

@@KingOfYamimakai People usually differentiate by splitting it into two words (Dead Beat)

[@TaeNy3981]

@@KratosConPelosame yo same lol

[@crystalesian]

Ebio : **Exist** Ibrahim : "He's my Rival"

[@shalo7]

love Calli's Texas accent Nihongo lmaoo

[@Aederex]

Yeehawngo

[@rndmdchbg]

Sona koto nayyy

[@lowkey_gamer4298]

This is why we love this VCR streams... It's the VTuber ULTIMATE collab!

[@dekirianto5853]

YEAH and it's not only vtuber there's also an artist, mangakas, so it's really MEGA COLLAB

[@hartlettal8104]

@@dekirianto5853 sometimes, VAs too! JP really up their games a lot with these organizer, LOVED THEM! There's not just 1 organizer as well, like the one where JP dub Snape met with Gojou Satoru! IIRC its another GTA server, anyways, its really awesome of these organizer to add individual of different occupation in mainstream medias together.

[@nagisa3620]

YEAHHHHH, IT'S SO COOL

[@Archaick]

Seeing Calli get so much recognition in VCR makes me so happy ;-; also i love that she's getting to talk with people she usually doesn't get to! I can only imagine how amazing this experience is for her.

[@simpledj509chromo7]

I hope she can gain some confidence in her Japanese through this. She’s very hard on herself when it comes to her JP skills. But her Japanese continues to improve and she’s progressed a ton since the early days. The reaper never fails to put a smile on my face either. She’s such a sweetheart and a genuinely lovely person.

[@homiga1]

​​@@simpledj509chromo7she's hard on herself because she has the typical bilingual issue where you blank out at times and completely forget a word despite knowing it normally and what it means do it just feels awful. It's just a matter of speaking more and more but having those situations hit your confidence hard.

[@schokoladereee]

I believe if Ao-kun didn't greet Calliope fast enough, Ibrahim will proudly gloat again "Do you know that this person is the one that sing One Piece PV?" to her lol. Though it will be fun to see the realization that Ao-kun belong to the same agency as Calliope.

[@angelredvivar]

I think he realized after Ao-kun said Calli-senpai

[@schokoladereee]

@@angelredvivar i know, I mentioned the last part as "what if Ibrahim gloat first, just to get told that Ao is Calli's kouhai"

[@Earthzooka]

@@angelredvivar But can you imagine the comedy gold that is Ibrahim gushing about Calli and how talented and accomplished she is, only for Ao to say in response: "Yeah, she's my senpai"?

[@angelredvivar]

@@Earthzooka It reminds of that meme You see that boy, I raised that boy

[@schokoladereee]

Yeah! Exactly this what I meant

[@darkeye457]

I saw this clip earlier in Japanese I didn't understand a word, but I could tell that Calli was being treated as a celebrity, and she deserves it

[@aerith119]

Ibrahim confused about how Calli and Ao know each other lmao

[@shinodamasaru7945]

Ao-kun is 2nd rival after Ex-Albio.

[@lootmaster1337]

Dad getting a chair and a new phone. Man that one piece song pays the bills

[@cydh_r]

Out no where, Ibrahim "Albio is my rival" hits me 😂 And when Aokun appeared like "huh, how this 'guy' is close to her?"

[@shinodamasaru7945]

Guy? I know the joke.

[@Xemphas]

The jealousy LOL

[@mendics]

imagine if the real rust experience was like this lol for regular people its just a hotbed for toxicity

[@konsanalite]

Then again, this server was purely PvE, not some try hard pvp which usually rust servers are like.

[@gkraith2995]

I hope you realize there's rules made for this VCR server. That's why everyone is chill.

[@jamesvales9512]

they can still grief in this server... its just not the toxic type it can be like a prank one (for content)... I also think they can still go steal other's stuff when their base is open or the door password is compromised

[@metaphoricalemon835]

Almost like most everyone already knows each other on this server and there would be backlash for genuine toxicity

[@jamesvales9512]

@@metaphoricalemon835 oh yeah that did happen in the early GTA VCRs ... I also remember that's the reason Hanabusa Lisa didnt want to join VCR GTA (fans attacking the streamers)

[@Go-ue6lz]

Man I love VCR! It's so fun seeing inter-agency or agency to indie connections especially coming so naturally! Love seeing Stars and Live JP povs and its great to see ID and EN join the mix for this one

[@deucesbye]

Same here it’s such a beautiful event. It’s positive all around for streamers and viewers alike. VCR has introduced me to sooo many new vtubers and streamers that I otherwise would’ve never discovered. Really glad they decided to invite ID and EN from hololive this time it’s brought over a big wave of new fans to this event!

[@catmage]

This is incredibly wholesome. I hope she takes the compliments to heart

[@ftk-alt]

we need positivity lik this! thx for clipping!

[@tropicalAzure]

I feel you man. Kinda tired of seeing the bad stuff happening on niji en side.

[@kanzaki2672]

@@tropicalAzure fans and trolls biting at each other, fueled by dramatuber, it's a whirlpool of negativity. Not helping when both the trolls and the majority of Niji EN viewers are chronically twitter users who are easily provoked so yeah, it won't die down that soon.

[@metaphoricalemon835]

It's pretty easy to not interact and stay out of the drama, and you'll be a lot better off for it

[@KharaChmiel]

@@tropicalAzure Unfortunately, its all self-owns by Niji. It is tiring but completely avoidable. They just don't have the systems nor the basic philosophy in place to avoid all of their self-owns. Expect more to come, unfortunately.

[@TotemoGaijin]

The way she gets a bit flustered over it all is so cute, lol.

[@remnatsuki8792]

I'm so happy for Calli getting so much more recognition and being treated like a celebrity lol I know that some celebrities in real life talk about being super shy or don't like it when they get pampered or praised by people, but when it's something like this where everyone is having fun, it should be a nice thing :D

[@Chaos2Frozen]

"Take the chair as well" got me laughing

[@oomay1925]

It's so nice seeing more unexpected holo and niji encounters on the Rust server!

[@GK-st6qm]

Calli's a superstar, love to see her hanging out with her fans 😊

[@user-wu8qc9bb3e]

It's been awhile since I watch a clip from Jp Vtubers but man, Niji JP feels so peaceful Lmao.

[@AscensiaYT]

Was waiting for someone to clip this interaction between Calli and these 2 cool NijiJP bros Thanks for the TL!

[@ElEscolta]

I used to watch a lot of clip of Ibrahim, Ebio, Ars, Ange, Dola, Kuzuha, etc back in the day before we had HoloEN and Calli became my oshi, and they where the best, some of my favorites clips where from them, its amazing seeing them be amazed interacting with Calli, she really has rise a lot!

[@Kokoadayou]

i watch this VCR stream in many channel and perspective, and it's so fun watching their interaction.

[@omerpockard7212]

I think Suicide Squad ED will make her even more well known. The One Piece song was never actually on the show.

[@rikterterran3833]

It's in the show through the bonus segments.

[@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache]

Maybe, but these are Japanese people you're talking about here, One Piece is way, way more popular over there than Suicide Squad I'd imagine.

[@TheXDayDreamerx]

The way he immediately introduced her as OP's singer to Ebio, he's such a geek (affectionate).

[@Bunniest]

Connected the world indeed.

[@suhardaniix]

dude simping hard

[@jayoliver3568]

Thank you for the clip 👍

[@Caoba_]

I remember watching a clip a loooong time ago, it was Ebio gushing about Calli's music in a zatsudan I'm so happy they finally met!!

[@ashuraisdedge]

I’m happy for her, dad is a certified celebrity

[@productionkos8816]

Ibrahim fangirling is funny AF

[@ktzen152]

thanks for the clip! it's funny to see ibu fangirling lol

[@PokeWhalee]

This became a fan meet & greet

[@rcane6842]

Keep clipping, V! Harvest the content 👌🏻

[@Aaron-555]

Nice clip

[@metalsonic8888]

Always a treat when someone compliments RIP and Calli has to politely endure it despite making no secret of the fact she hates it nowadays

[@LimSiege]

Hate might be a strong word. She's got mixed feelings about the song being one of her most popular songs as she probably sees it as inferior to some of her other songs that she sees as better.

[@rikterterran3833]

​@@LimSiege I would imagine she intended the song to be a silly little introduction to her reaper rapper persona, not expecting HoloEN to blow up in popularity at the time.

[@AmeLilith]

​@@LimSiegeyeah she basically said she wishes she could have debuted with a song more along the lines of Wanted Wasted in retrospect

[@primaster9360]

In other words, she doesn't hate the song, she just thinks its mid compared with what she could do

[@michelle-se7rk]

so fun!! also will you consider clipping kanae’s vcr rust hehe?

[@SKy_the_Thunder]

I still haven't removed "Overkill" from the top of my Watch Later playlist, even though I listen to it every time I start up the VoDs of streams I missed as background entertainment for the day.

[@karlsangalang1623]

damn. Niji JP feels so Chill

[@assaulthetz]

I like that Calli had some Southern American Accent, As if she just came out from Wild West Era and learned Japanese language lmao

[@TheRuwan117]

the eggheads song actually plays in the after credits part of the future island episodes too! ^^

[@iiiCorrosiveiii]

The only thing that sucks about this is watching everyone pal around and have fun and then opening rust and getting my ear drum blown out by shreiking teenagers lmao Thank god for the holo and VCR rust streams, theyve been so fun and funny lmao

[@kylewoodowens4488]

Much different atmosphere. Japanese people are very respectful.

[@gkraith2995]

They're rules placed for this server you know. I don't know why you think japanese rust players aren't as toxic as the rest of the world. Also the fact most of the people in VCR server are streamers who can get flamed for griefing or being annoying in it, that's why they're mostly chill.

[@Taoru11]

@@kylewoodowens4488 In general maybe, but JP gamers can be about as toxic as it gets.

[@Sky_314]

Wait they know each other senpai eh

[@johnandrew4856]

Me impresiona calli es muy famosa en el mundo vtuber y como artista

[@Zen.-tc9tm]

Mari berharap hari terakhir server nanti ada konser lagi dan calli bisa ikut juga

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

nice calli recognition!

[@caBr010]

So Ibrahim kinda said "sit on me please" by giving Calli the chair lol

[@asa_hira]

ibrahim being a successful fanboy 🥹🙏

[@rainbowsalt--.]

てえてえ

[@heroicxidiot]

Wow even some nijisanji jp are fans of her

[@kylewoodowens4488]

I don't think that they know that she's from Holo. Either that or they don't know that Ao kun is from Holo too.

[@noraiou]

@@kylewoodowens4488 That's wrong. Niji and Holo JP is quite close to each other. They know which VTuber who work for Holo or work for Niji. They know who's from where and vice versa. Plus, the people behind these VTuber model we watch are actually a close friend and already know each other before they even become a VTuber (well, some of them). Yes, this is JP scene, not EN scene. Even though Calli is from EN. But overall here, everyone is from JP aside like Calli, Bae, and Anya (and maybe a couple of more). Not only that, even Hinano, from VSPO, know about Anya that is from HoloID even before they've met in the first day of VCR Rust this year. And when they met, Hinano said to Anya that she know about Anya.

[@aGhostChicken]

​@@noraiouIf that was the case Ibrahim would not have been surprised by the fact that Ao was Calli's kouhai.

[@noraiou]

@@aGhostChicken Ibrahim is actually one of the, let just say, a little bit not recognizing anything easily. He didn't even know about Salome when she debuted even though they were in the same agency and even though Salome was a hot topic at that time. He also didn't know a lot of Niji Livers unlike the others. Plus, Holo is getting big and starts to get many branches. Regloss is the newest one so it's understandable if some didn't know. But it is still the same anyway. Most of the VTubers already knew each other even from the day they were not a VTubers. You will be surprised if you know that some Holo VTubers and Niji Livers are actually very close friends even before VTubers is a thing. And yeah, again, most know that this VTubers is from Holo and that VTubers is from Niji and that this VTubers from here and there. Most of them know. But for Ibrahim's case.. he always likes that.

[@khalduras784]

@@aGhostChicken Regloss is relatively new. Ibrahim hardly can keep up with his own agency just like many others. He knows calli because Calli is very popular

[@chainsaw7638]

How cute

[@datjp]

So wholesome lol.

[@electrowavez1680]

Love the mola mola ost

[@aariff_b.]

Good guy👍

[@konnen7354]

Bro gave her a chair and marked that off his bucket list lol

[@1UwU3]

I met Ibrahim through working with Hololive a lot He was on the same team as Botan in CR SF6 for the first time Custom OW Valorant LOL k4sen is on team Laplus He once called Fubuki who was melting steel in a VCR Ark, but Fubuki didn't hear him until he loudly called her Catherine.

[@yuskip5724]

Especially suisei and calli are beyond Vtubers, so other Vtubers are paying attention.

[@shinodamasaru7945]

They have found their strength. Streaming might be a fan and meet online or secondary job rn.

[@prowse321]

now i'm watching ibrahim lolz

[@-Raylight]

Never would I dream about ABO and Ib meet Dad, then fanboying so hard. Glad they did tho xD Ib-kun is just like us, Deadbeats fr fr 🤣

[@netobrisenof4267]

Bro its jus a proud deadbeat in front of hir oshi 😂

[@esraee]

i think its so funny how mori sounds just like those bratty boys in anime with crazy plot armor 😂😂

[@aesthethicc9797]

I love seeing things like this after shits happened on the other side

[@user-gx9xf2zb6o]

カリオペの曲は普通に日本で有名だからね〜

[@negnarddingus2613]

We live in a world

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

You know it's weird, because to folks who have been following her and watch her almost every day, Calli is just Calli. It's kind of easy to forget that she's massively successful outside of Hololive and is kind of a big deal. She's probably the Vtuber most famous for non-Vtubing stuff.

[@KharaChmiel]

You could probably add Gura, Marine or Suisei in that number, too. Gura was ambassador Tokyo (alongside Calli), Marine's songs have been widely played in stores and whatnot in Japan and Suisei was the first (and only?) Vtuber to be invited to do First Take.

[@badonshrimp6851]

well i'm early wtf

[@TaeNy3981]

Mori Calliope deserves all the fames after everything with all her achievements and worked 👏👏👏 As expected from our beloved hardworking boy ❤️ I feel like a proud parents for Calli 🤩

[@sleeplessotaku4688]

i mean i would be too, to be honest.

[@waterteafan9264]

Calli W

[@lyconxero457]

It's really cool seeing so many different Vtubers interacting in this sort of space. Sadly, I really only get to enjoy it via clips like this as I don't speak Japanese so I'm eating them all up before this server comes to an end.

[@Tarodenaro]

Why bother with tribalism when Niji livers are also their fans lmao

[@TheXander2004]

who are these bruddas

[@KingEigweN]

wait this vcr rust collab they have niji liver to?

[@bruvh29]

the niji jp ones yes

[@ilovemyself8081]

Yes it's been so long and there are many of niji jp in the serve more then holo actually.kanae and lap+ been playing together before in vcr gta

[@konsanalite]

Aren't almost all Crazy Raccoon related events there's always Niji livers on it? I don't usually watch livers from Niji but pretty sure their jp livers are casual participants of Crazy Raccoon events, especially Apex and Valo.

[@tropicalAzure]

​@@konsanaliteyup

[@Soulnado]

Yeah, Kuzuha, Ibrahimz Kanae, Ibrahim, Shishido and Ririmu are always there. This time they have Himawari, Watari, Riri and Kanato,

[@SinKal]

It's crazy that calli and gura hell even Myth is famous in Japan. Holo support their talents like and they got one of the best result Meanwhile in NijiEN one thing for sure the have is Problems and Drama The result is night and day

[@JustoSorin]

Not only shows how Calli is great in Japan (and she deserves it, her accent is a great part of her identity), but also changed a bit my mind about Nijisanji male livers -after all those clippers said about Akuma and Kanashiro, I tought they were only a bunch of company slaves caring only about Blacksanji e giving all the fans' money to it, but they showed such a respect, such a great attitude to her... It's gentlemanship.

[@metaphoricalemon835]

^ how to tell when someone only watches english/hololive vtubers

[@subject_n]

Ignore people who feed off drama, they have every incentive to misrepresent things. Treat everyone like humans, watch them and make your own mind about them

[@metaphoricalemon835]

@@subject_n well said!

[@1UwU3]

NijiJP like ibrahim lauren ABO doesn't have the international following of like NijiEN but they do have a more loyal audience And there are no crazy sisters like NijiEN because they focus on competitive games and there aren't many female viewers.

[@subject_n]

@@1UwU3 man, niji JP has a huge female viewership compared to holo. It's a good thing. By the way, 75% of japanese female vtuber fans are nijisanji fans. Of the people who talked about it: Kaisei had 88% female viewers Harusaki Air had 86% Shikinagi Akira had 72% Nagao Kei had 80% Plenty of female livers have increasing percentages too. Amamya had 35% Ririmu had 40% Mito had 30% So we can stop blaming all problems on women

[@sampeter1471]

ngl when I saw the word nijisanji, I thought it was another drama😅😅 been a wild year for some months

[@lianaverwood9810]

While NijiJP is not Completely Innocent, the Vast Majority of the Controversy has been Isolated within the EN Branch of Nijisanji - most of NijiJP is functioning Well and Appropriately, its Livers seem quite Happy with their Arrangements and Management, and aren't showing signs of Internal Abuse like has been witnessed in NijiEN... Unless Evidence proves otherwise, we should consider NijiEN and NijiJP as being Two Separately-Run SubGroups of AnyColor's Orginization.

[@metaphoricalemon835]

yep, nijien is just a big liability to enikara at this point

[@riri7316]

NIjiJP side is pretty chill but sometimes they do have some controversies. Only difference it's just not as big as NijiEN who keeps doing everything wrong for some reason.

[@Arcterion]

NijiEN: "ALL OUT WAR" NijiJP:

[@YukkaRinnn]

NijiEN is in a all out war while NijiJP is just here doin side missions

[@nanayonjyu740]

You will be surprised when you see mostly non nijifans who are camping at niji's official account, or spamming livers replies and comments 🤯

[@metaphoricalemon835]

@@nanayonjyu740 yeah there's no "war" happening here lol. The only conflict is being perpetrated by drama goblins and clout chasers

[@Bakuganluver23]

@@metaphoricalemon835 NijiJP and HoloEN and HoloJP seem to be very good friends, honestly. NijiEn is just digging themselves into a bigger and bigger HOLE.

[@helloitisi7367]

EN is the only bs livers, i sometimes hope that some jp livers are not being treated crap by management

[@metaphoricalemon835]

if that were the case the main branch would have gone down the route of the EN branch long ago. Safe to say they're being treated just fine

[@KharaChmiel]

@@metaphoricalemon835 that's not quite the right way to look at things. Niji JP has a large following in Japan so the Japanese talents are going to be getting more recognition and are going to naturally get paid more than their EN counterparts. There are opportunities for JP livers that there just aren't for EN livers, especially those EN livers who do not know Japanese. Anycolor has not supported the EN branch well. That is a fact. But there are also just more of a culture of fandom for JP livers to live in in the JP branch than there is in the EN branch. It ALSO doesn't help that NijiEN talents (the ones in power, mind you) have this sense of superiority over other agency talents. They've actively disparaged Holo's talents in leaked discussions. They hate on their members who've gotten out and then went indie and call them names. But that's another story. Going back to the main point: JP's livers could be treated the same as their EN counterparts; that terrible Niji contract is probably the same between JP and EN branches, for example. But Anycolor has a stronger stranglehold over its JP fans than it does it's EN fanbase and in turn the JP livers are enriched by that contact with higher view counts and higher amounts of superchats.

[@metaphoricalemon835]

@@KharaChmiel i mean you said it yourself, the main branch offers more pay (although the en ones aren't exactly being paid peanuts) and more opportunities. Who really knows about contracts and whatnot. It feels like this latest drama is allowing people to act like they know more about the inner workings of a large corporation than they really do

[@KharaChmiel]

@@metaphoricalemon835 No they don't "OFFER" more pay, there's more pay out there to secure for JP livers. Remember, Niji doesn't pay it's livers anything, its all based on how well you do in the market you have. So, Niji JP livers are in a situation where they can capitalize on a captive market and make more money. Anycolor doesn't pay shit. We don't exactly know about contracts of JP livers, but we DO have a NijiEN contract. As someone with a JD and who's also worked in Japan, I've read the contract and can with a very large degree of certainty, say that its a standardized contract that contains many provisions that are standard Japan-speak and are indicative of the language they enjoy using in their contracts; it is likely that JP contracts have similar language. Sure, we don't know the inner workings of Anycolor, but we can make educated assumptions based on what has been released and what others in the industry do, namely Hololive. We can use our eyes to see CCV counts and superchat totals. We can use our brains when there are large swathes of Niji going on break for mental issues whereas Holo there's one here and there and always backed by the company (ie forcing their livers to actually take breaks). We can see the quality of the live shows and interpret the disparity of quality between Holo and Niji. We can view calls for high school students to work part-time but being required to do professional-level work. All of these things paint a picture of a company rife with disjointedness and mismanagement, especially at NijiEN.

[@metaphoricalemon835]

@@KharaChmiel that is just straight up not true unless you really believe they don't get a basic salary lol. Even if they didn't, they don't have to pay for stuff like merch unlike hololive which makes it lower risk lower reward. I don't exactly see how superchats and ccv are related to anything here. And you somehow managed to twist going on break as if it's a bad thing when niji allows its livers to fuck off for months or even years at a time lol

[@KingOfYamimakai]

It's a good thing Anycolor management can't do anything about one of their talent meeting another talent agency's talent in a game the said talent was invited to play or it would have spark another scandal with Niji management banning their talent from interacting with a talent from a rival agency.

[@heroicxidiot]

Niji JP and Niji EN are two completely different entities at this point

[@mizukineo1442]

eh, i think all the shitshow going on is just mostly on nijien side, many niji jp are close friend to holojp since early days, and they collabed sometimes, hardly to see any restriction going on between them at all

[@StickyRice-pq1dp]

Niji and Holo is quite close to each other (at least for jp side now) they have worked together to encounter any backlash/rumor in JP for quite some time now.

[@FizzyK-45]

Bruh, the other branches were fine, it's the EN that has problems. 😂 All of us JP&ID fans used to have tons of cross company collab streams. ❤

[@vyrax401]

​@@FizzyK-45 i member korone from nijisanji jp, and risu from nijisanji id

[@Reiswalt]

The fact Ibrahim went with "praising" hololive instead of shunning and acting like a rival company is a smart move considering wtf chaos is happening in NijiEN at the moment. This is the same reason I really like Sara Hoshikawa since she genuinely love hololive and fangirls on them.

[@rainscents]

What are you on about xD the talents have nothing to do with their agency being rival to other agency since forever. Back then was more like Hololive just bubbling up their talents to protect them, after VCR happen, they always make their own server. Meanwhile Nijisanji is just bunch of talents who goes anywhere and befriend anyone. From VSPO, CR, UMMU, to basically pro players. Especially when current chaos in Nijisanji is because they did it to themselves lol

[@kuronoch.1441]

​​@@rainscentsWell more than half of their talents are good, but their management is the opposite. Ibrahim is one of the most based of the bunch though; he had the balls to criticize management on how they handled the intense popularity of Salome. But then again he's one of those they can't easily fire even with his criticism, him and Toya for that matter. There's a reason why in 4chan, he is referred to as "Sultan".

[@Kromamaxx]

@@rainscentsi think he was referencing to the niji en screenshot leak where they bash holo council, granted not all members of nijisanji participate in this but you know how few rotten apples spoiled the bunch.

[@kanzaki2672]

My bro, their JP talent does not relate with whatever NijiEN shits at the moment. They're a good and chill bunch and have a long history with Holopro so don't let NijiEN ruin your perception about Nijisanji as a whole.

[@dindachancamui3508]

​@@kuronoch.1441 ummm almost all of Nijisanji talents have criticized the management, even Kuzuha, and why is your source a site like 4chan, that's the source of the spread of negativity and tribalism

[@altairlion]

Ao crashed the fun like a true comedian.

[@Sky_314]

That's funny

[@definitelycultured7521]

Idk why but Calli's Japanese always sound aggresive in a funny way 🤣