The Iron Claw (2023) Movie REACTION | First Time Watching | Von Erichs | WWE

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Nikki & Steven React

Nikki & Steven React

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@NikkiStevenReact
@NikkiStevenReact 5 ай бұрын
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@eddiegonzalez5070
@eddiegonzalez5070 5 ай бұрын
sad facts-Iron Claw. 2 other brothers not portrayed in the film died of suicide
@briangrabill5286
@briangrabill5286 5 ай бұрын
FYI NIKKI, BACK IN THESE DAYS, THE CONTACT WAS ABOUT 50 PERCENT, HIT BUT NOT TOO HARD.
@briangrabill5286
@briangrabill5286 5 ай бұрын
YOU CAN FIND THESE ACTUAL MATCHES ON KZbin. LOOK UP THE DOC ON THE VON ERICHS , MUCH BETTER THAN THE MOVIE
@williamfrankiv6167
@williamfrankiv6167 5 ай бұрын
Love your guys shirts I got the same shirt as you Steven
@justinmalone3473
@justinmalone3473 5 ай бұрын
@@eddiegonzalez5070 I know Chris...... Mike did as well (But he is in the movie) Kerry (in the movie) who was the second brother not portrayed in the movie?
@michaelbrewer2069
@michaelbrewer2069 5 ай бұрын
NOBODY knew Kerry wrestled with a prosthetic. He would literally shower with his boot on after his matches. He kept it hidden from everyone outside of his family.
@Tensen01
@Tensen01 5 ай бұрын
Roddy Piper said that he was best friends with Kerry and was the only person outside the family who knew. That Kerry would hang out in their hotel room with his prosthetic off.
@hitman5694
@hitman5694 5 ай бұрын
I cried like a baby when the line was said “I used to be a brother” I immediately rang my own brother to tell him I loved him
@nathanlindahl8336
@nathanlindahl8336 4 ай бұрын
I bawled my eyes out at that part lol
@HIfinest
@HIfinest 4 ай бұрын
It’s so unfortunate that they left out their brother Chris Von Erich
@rocknroll20024
@rocknroll20024 3 ай бұрын
Aw
@LPJack02
@LPJack02 5 ай бұрын
RIP Jack Adkisson Jr. (September 21, 1952 - March 7, 1959), aged 7 RIP David Von Erich (July 22, 1958 - February 10, 1984), aged 25 RIP Kerry Von Erich (February 3, 1960 - February 18, 1993), aged 33 RIP Mike Von Erich (March 2, 1964 - April 12, 1987), aged 23 RIP Chris Von Erich (September 30, 1969 - September 12, 1991), aged 21 You will be remembered as legends
@NightRanger-lz6tp
@NightRanger-lz6tp 5 ай бұрын
And don't forget little Jack, who was accidentally electrocuted at the age of 7.
@iamlinda100
@iamlinda100 5 ай бұрын
@@NightRanger-lz6tp he did mention Jack
@joshuacoldwater
@joshuacoldwater 5 ай бұрын
and David’s daughter “Natosha Zoeanna Adkisson (October 19, 1978 - December 29, 1978)” Died of SIDS 13 weeks after birth.
@orenges7034
@orenges7034 5 ай бұрын
The ages man. I cannot believe that. They barely got started in life
@timothybrown2907
@timothybrown2907 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@ryanratcliff2548
@ryanratcliff2548 5 ай бұрын
The Texas Tornadoes entire run in WWF he did it with 1 foot. That’s a testament to how good he was in the ring, because it was impossible to tell. Incredible story
@NikkiStevenReact
@NikkiStevenReact 5 ай бұрын
that is so insane... i've gone back and watched a few of his matches and even knowing, you can't tell.
@cwell510
@cwell510 5 ай бұрын
One thing you can tell going back and watching Kerry's WWF matches is that his in ring speed was much less compared to his World Class days. He never tried any high-flying spots, and never dropkicked anyone.
@lokeymexican
@lokeymexican 2 ай бұрын
I noticed he wasn't that smooth while turning and I was just a kid.
@aricproctor6701
@aricproctor6701 5 ай бұрын
As a brother it breaks my heart to what a legendary pro wrestler has been through without his brothers. Yeah Kevin loved wrestling but doing it with his brothers was the best thing that ever happened to him. Wrestling wasn’t the best thing in Kevin’s life his brothers were.
@NightRanger-lz6tp
@NightRanger-lz6tp 5 ай бұрын
At the time of Kerry's suicide, he was going through a bad divorce and he was set to go to trial for violating probation for forging prescription for painkillers. He left behind 2 daughters Holly and Lacey. Lacey did enter the business competing in TNA from 2009 to 2011. 2 of Kevin's sons Marshall and Ross indeed is in the Wrestling business having competed in AEW, TNA and other independents.
@noahbrown6970
@noahbrown6970 5 ай бұрын
I think there's another one out there too, working as a singles guy on the indies. But he might be the son of a cousin or something, I'm not sure :)
@NightRanger-lz6tp
@NightRanger-lz6tp 5 ай бұрын
@noahbrown6970 I don't know. I do remember Fritz created a Von Erich but was never really a Von Erich named Lance.
@Adrianne519
@Adrianne519 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, there were a lot of factors as to why he took his own life. There’s all the ones you listed but he was obviously grieving from his brothers & was in constant pain, he would bleed every match, his boots would be filled with blood
@stonecoldku4161
@stonecoldku4161 5 ай бұрын
As with most movies based on actual events, there are a lot of things that they omitted, timelines that got condensed and some things that were just wrong. These are the ones that I know about. 1) David was married to his second wife at the time of his death. His first marriage came to an end after their 13-week-old daughter passed away from SIDS. 2) Kerry had two daughters at the time of his death. He and the children's mother had attempted a reconciliation, but due to his continuing legal troubles it did not work. 3) Fritz actually spent the morning with Kerry on the day that Kerry passed away. Before Kerry left the house, he hugged his father and told him that he loved him. Fritz found Kerry's body several hours later sitting in a tree that the boys would climb as kids. 4) Fritz had missed out on the Olympics as a discus thrower when he was younger as well. He could not afford to pay for his travel and the AAU wouldn't pay for the trip as Fritz had gotten married. When he was in high school Fritz set the high school state record for the discus throw. That record stood until Kerry broke it. According to Kevin had Fritz been able to go to the Olympics he matched his best throw Fritz would have won gold. 5) Kerry didn't lose his foot the night he won the title. He lost it two years after he won it. He only held the title for 18 days before losing it back to Flair. Kerry winning the title was really just a favor to the family as the NWA did not trust Kerry who had missed shows he was booked on earlier in his due to his substance abuse issues it was believed. 6) It was Fritz, and a business partner sold their majority ownership of the WCCW to Jerry Jarrett, not Kevin. In fact, it was Kevin who was against the sale. 7) The match where Kevin "flipped out" on Ric Flair did happen, but it took place a little over a year after David's death. It was also the predetermined finish to the match. 8) Kevin and Pam, I believe had two daughters before they had their two sons.
@ziro696
@ziro696 5 ай бұрын
9) The movie omitted the youngest Von Erich brother, Chris, also a wrestler and who sadly took his life at just 21 years old, can't remember of it was in 91 or 93.
@vivacious_me
@vivacious_me 5 ай бұрын
This movie was so so so well done! ❤ "I used to be a brother" part wrecks me every time...
@AmeliaThornhill-tz7ot
@AmeliaThornhill-tz7ot 5 ай бұрын
That line and " Tonight i walk with my brothers" absolutely wrecked me
@PowerDiva
@PowerDiva 5 ай бұрын
There's so much to talk about with this movie, but I think one thing that gets me.... Harris Dickinson who played the part of David - he was so good on the mic with the TX accent Nikki even mentioned. It's hard to believe he's actually British. Like fully British lol. Watch him in interviews, you'll be floored at the difference in his real voice and accent vs the one he uses here. Full on Texan promo wrestler portrayed by a soft-spoken British guy. Made me really appreciate him as an actor.
@katashworth41
@katashworth41 5 ай бұрын
I love him, despite all the Aaron Taylor Johnson rumours I think he’d make a great James Bond. Obviously need a hard reboot and he’s known enough to film nerds but not so much to the average film goer, which is who EON are looking for, and in this he showed that he can get in shape and do stunt work.
@RainSennin_ismyAlt
@RainSennin_ismyAlt 3 ай бұрын
Harris understood the assignment!
@stonecoldku4161
@stonecoldku4161 5 ай бұрын
4:30 "The Shiek" was played here by Chavo Guerrero Jr. nephew and former tag team champion with his uncle Eddie Guerrero.
@cwell510
@cwell510 5 ай бұрын
51:03 "I see your old tag-team partner, Hellwig is holding, that guy's got nothing on you and never has..." Fritz is speaking about Jim Hellwig, aka The Ultimate Warrior.
@animal9633
@animal9633 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow, I didn't know that! He was one of my favourite crazy wrestlers when I was a kid.
@iamworthy1302
@iamworthy1302 4 ай бұрын
Makes allot of sense I can tell that line has something behind it. As a kid I use to get the ultimate warrior and Texas tornado mixed up lol
@mom_life393
@mom_life393 5 ай бұрын
My fiance is a huge wresting wrestling fan and I went to see this with him in the theater. My knowledge of wrestling is more than the average human but never have been a fan nor did I know anything of the Von Erichs prior to the film. So to say I was caught off guard about how emotionally invested I became while watching this is a huge understatement. I went in with low expectations and left bawling my eyes out. They did an incredible job at pulling you in. Even someone like myself who has no interest in wrestling.
@Zechree
@Zechree 5 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this movie at least 3 times now and I’ve cried each time, seeing the older brother that didn’t grow up and the final scene with Kevin and his sons gets me everytime. Such a sad story
@ianseavey4015
@ianseavey4015 5 ай бұрын
To answer your question: Kerry did wrestle with a prosthetic in the WWF
@moviescatsmargs
@moviescatsmargs 5 ай бұрын
I saw this in the movie theater. The last 20 minutes I just felt tears going down my cheeks and when the lights went up after it ended, I looked around and everyone was wiping their eyes. I've never seen anything like that. I went home and didn't know what to do except text my brother and ask how he was doing.
@maximusmfg
@maximusmfg 5 ай бұрын
Kerry did wrestle in WWF with one foot. Which is amazing when you think about it. Not very many people knew about it, including the other wrestlers
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 5 ай бұрын
I can't imagine the stress though of him trying to hide it
@jermainemartinez8282
@jermainemartinez8282 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know that Kerry was wrestling with a prosthetic foot. I heard about it maybe a year or 2 ago in a Tony Atlas shoot, where he talked about Brody's murder, but he did bring up the accident of Kerry.
@donavoncollins2891
@donavoncollins2891 5 ай бұрын
Bro Nikki cut that promo like she’s been in the business for a long time hahaha
@mikes6457
@mikes6457 5 ай бұрын
i appreciate you getting the difference of public opinion from fake to predetermined. pisses me off when folks are willfully ignorant of what's going on
@katashworth41
@katashworth41 5 ай бұрын
There’s a great line in Fighting With My Family, when someone says it’s fake and Nick Frost’s character just angrily replies “It’s not fake. It’s fixed.”
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 5 ай бұрын
I got this on Blu Ray! I wish this was nominated for Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Director, and Best Original Screenplay.
@alexmccarthy2095
@alexmccarthy2095 5 ай бұрын
VOTE "aye"
@joshuacoldwater
@joshuacoldwater 5 ай бұрын
They shot themselves in the foot with the release date, it gave the voting board 9 days to see the film 4 of them were holidays. A release that close to the deadline is risky for a sports film. I would be shocked if there were any votes- which is awful.
@smiffy68
@smiffy68 5 ай бұрын
If only it hadn't been for all those better pictures, better actors, better directors and better screenplays. So close.
@ItsDrew9
@ItsDrew9 5 ай бұрын
@@smiffy68 you must be fun at parties
@HaleyHearts
@HaleyHearts 5 ай бұрын
@@ItsDrew9 he wants a reaction
@xero2135
@xero2135 5 ай бұрын
The movie’s narrative is a condensed version of the story taking place from the end of the 70’s with the story wrapping up sometime after Kerry’s departure in February of 1993 just weeks after his 33rd birthday, some events are moved around or played concurrently to later occurrences but Iron Claw largely sticks the landing on the story of the Von Erich family. An example of events being moved around or condensed for dramatic effect, is the sequence of events going from David’s feud with Flair to Kerry’s accident, David’s feud with Flair was in 1983-1984 with a title shot set up for 84, Kevin married Pam in 1980, David died in February of 1984 as such his match with Flair at Parade of Champions becomes a Memorial Event with Kerry facing Flair in the ring and winning the NWA World Heavyweight Championship Belt from him, unfortunately due to reasons only Kerry would have known he no-showed a couple of times and so the NWA swiftly arranged for the title to pass back to Flair in 84, Mike dislocating his shoulder and lapsing into a coma happened in Israel in 1985, during the period he was out of action another wrestler was brought in and given a new gimmick to fill Mike’s spot, this wrestler would be renamed Lance Von Erich, this is depicted in the scene with Kevin on the sidelines outside the ring wanting to be tagged in, and finally Kerry gets into a motorcycle accident in 86 though according to the real Kevin he didn’t lose the foot in the accident, it had to be amputated because he tried to walk on it too soon.
@xero2135
@xero2135 5 ай бұрын
There’s also David’s first marriage in 78 which fell apart after the couple’s baby daughter died of sudden infant death syndrome, he’d married again in 82.
@tech_smurf
@tech_smurf 5 ай бұрын
This is one of the greatest movies that I have ever seen. Zac's performance was Oscar worthy. I'm also a brother and this broke me. Incredible movie and incredible performances.
@joekerr7975
@joekerr7975 5 ай бұрын
Ironic Nikki asked is the The Claw from Liar Liar the same as the Iron Claw because the same actress who played Doty was the mother in Liar Liar (Maura Tierney)
@tgardner11
@tgardner11 5 ай бұрын
I was cracking up at that too!
@jermainemartinez8282
@jermainemartinez8282 4 ай бұрын
Her version of the claw in liar liar was hilarious I loved it.
@joannery687
@joannery687 23 күн бұрын
Maura Tierney was also in the long running series of E.R. and she played "Abby" and had a love team with "Luka" and their love team was named "Luby". E.R. happened to be one of my favorite shows once upon a time growing up.
@xero2135
@xero2135 5 ай бұрын
The scene with Kevin on the sidelines and the other guy in the ring after Mike wakes from his coma, is supposed to be depicting the brief period of time in which Fritz enlisted a fellow wrestler to play Lance Von Erich a kayfabe relative of the family, (as a result of Mike’s coma.) (I reiterate this part of the story in my second comment.)
@RainSennin_ismyAlt
@RainSennin_ismyAlt 3 ай бұрын
Lance Von Erich is better than you and you know it
@davidforestieri4784
@davidforestieri4784 5 ай бұрын
When Dad says to Kerry that Helwig was doing well, i was like "good shirt choice"
@superdave577
@superdave577 4 ай бұрын
The issue of Kerry's foot was a bit of creative liberty. Kerry did not lose his foot after the accident, but he did damage it horribly. His father, no shocker here, pushed Kerry to get back into the ring before the foot had completely healed and against doctors advise. Due to that, the damage got worse, and he had to have the foot amputated. His time in the WWF was short (I remember his debut and was very excited) due to the pain and eventual letting go as he just couldn't preform. Nobody knew he was wearing a prosthetic at that time; he worked very hard to hide it. Very sad. The pain and suffering Kevin has had to endure in his life is staggering. A true man to take that on the chin and keep moving forward. It is no surprise the Kevin is very protective of all of his kids to this day because of the treatment he and his brothers received from their parents.
@LovedByYou
@LovedByYou 3 ай бұрын
The fact that Kevin broke the generational curse. He ended up having 4 kids (all boys) and replicating what he had, but “looking out for his sons and NOT pitting them against each other”. ♥️♥️
@metalparasite
@metalparasite 5 ай бұрын
Kerry wrestled as the Texas Tornado in the WWF with 1 foot. Only a few people he trusted knew about it. I'm not 100% sure who knew, but I think he hung out with Roddy Piper with his boots off because he trusted Roddy. Fantastically tragic movie this was.
@michaelpalma6346
@michaelpalma6346 5 ай бұрын
I love how they mention Hellwig in the movie, and you’re wearing a shirt with the Ultimate Warrior on it, nice touch lol.
@rodneywoodcock8235
@rodneywoodcock8235 4 ай бұрын
Remember when Hellwig was in WCCW along side the Von Erich's and known as the Dingo Warrior? Even when he became the "Ultimate" Warrior in the WWF, I still called him the Dingo having known him from his World Class days.
@michaelpalma6346
@michaelpalma6346 4 ай бұрын
@@rodneywoodcock8235 the ultimate dingo lol
@BenTanner92
@BenTanner92 5 ай бұрын
Definitely check out Dark Side of the Ring episode on the Von Erichs. This movie is amazing and definitely the documentary gives some more deep dive into the family and the brother Chris who did not appear in the movie.
@sway3055
@sway3055 4 ай бұрын
What sucks that this movie didn’t get nominated for no awards also it didn’t get the recognition at all..Zac Efron deserved an award for this movie he did a really good job. This movie made me cry at end.
@donaldmcclurejr.494
@donaldmcclurejr.494 5 ай бұрын
Great reaction, Nikki and Steven. The Von Erichs family, like Steven, said are a royal family of wrestling. They consisted of six brothers. Jack, Kevin, David, Kerry, Mike, and Chris. In the 1980's Dallas Tx and Fort Worth Tx area they were the go to family of wrestling. That's how it's been presented to me and I'm sure many others when watching wrestling biographies on them as a wrestling family. Once again, great reaction Nikki and Steven reacts!
@maritzanav212
@maritzanav212 5 ай бұрын
This movie was so well done. I remember when I was younger watching the Von Erich' s every weekend, those were some classic matches. Hopefully, one day we get more movies on the other wrestling families.
@HIfinest
@HIfinest 4 ай бұрын
Just so unfortunate they left out Chris Von Erich out this great movie
@KingstonHawke
@KingstonHawke 3 ай бұрын
The Hart’s would be interesting.
@jasondelgado-yg5mj
@jasondelgado-yg5mj 5 ай бұрын
The entire series of Dark Side of the Ring is phenomenal. Every episode is riveting,even if you’re not familiar with that particular wrestler.
@SonOvLaw
@SonOvLaw 5 ай бұрын
Yes, Kerry Von Erich did wrestle for years after the accident with a prosthetic foot. If you watch his WWF matches, you'll notice one of his legs has the natural calf/ankle/foot shape, and the other is completely wrapped up and covered from the knee down.
@williammccormick984
@williammccormick984 4 ай бұрын
It's just a BRUTAL story. They legitimately wrote out Chris Von Erich because the filmmakers didn't think audiences could handle another brother dying. It was "too much to be believable." That's how tragic the Von Erich story is. It's legend.
@wakaflockachewbacca6577
@wakaflockachewbacca6577 5 ай бұрын
I first watched this with my older half brother who I’m very close with. It was the third time he had seen it and we both cried, stood up and hugged each other. Plus I have 4 other brothers as well (2 half, 2 step, and a step sister) and this movie moved me more than any other movie I’ve watched. I’ve watched it 5 more times since I first watched it.
@AlpineJohn
@AlpineJohn 5 ай бұрын
Even though I already knew their story, seeing it on-screen broke my heart. One of the few movies that actually made me cry.
@akil_almaeiz5652
@akil_almaeiz5652 5 ай бұрын
They are all named Adkisson, that scene with the baby name is like if Hulk Hogan had to tell a nurse his name is really Terry
@dsouu9139
@dsouu9139 5 ай бұрын
Y'all should check out the bear with Jeremy Allen White, hh definitely climbing up my list as a phenomenal actor
@Crimsonzs
@Crimsonzs 5 ай бұрын
The real life situation was so much worse. The director cut out another Von Erich in fear the movie would be TOO depressing. But Chris also killed himself because he had a lot of expectations to be a Von Erich and he couldn't fullfill them.
@John_Locke_108
@John_Locke_108 5 ай бұрын
I also learned that the gun Kerry shot himself with was actually a Father's Day gift which is even more tragic.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 5 ай бұрын
@@John_Locke_108 that's in the movie
@John_Locke_108
@John_Locke_108 5 ай бұрын
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 I thought it was a Christmas gift in the movie?
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 5 ай бұрын
@@John_Locke_108 oh shit you may be right
@MrBda241
@MrBda241 5 ай бұрын
The Darkside of the Ring episode of the Von Erich's told the story of Kevin, at his rock bottom, robbed a gunshop and was willing to die in prison or by the attempt. The Shop owner recognized him and told him as he was leaving "I love you, Kev." and didn't try stopping him. This just stopped Kevin from going further, return the gun he stole and turned his life around.
@bigjoeofthe707
@bigjoeofthe707 5 ай бұрын
It sucks Chris was left out of the movie entirely. His story is more tragic.
@gleam6370
@gleam6370 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t know this until after I watched the movie and it changed how I felt about it. I don’t understand why they excluded him
@LPJack02
@LPJack02 5 ай бұрын
@gleam6370 the reason why Chris was not included in the movie because according to Sean Durkin, the director of the movie said "it was one more tragedy that the film couldn't really withstand".
@John_Locke_108
@John_Locke_108 5 ай бұрын
​@@gleam6370The director said it would have been too much for the audience. Just too much sadness. So they combined two brothers into one.
@Hydepop19
@Hydepop19 5 ай бұрын
Still a great movie
@Divamarja_CA
@Divamarja_CA 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I looked up the family in Wikipedia before watching the movie and learned about the omitted son. So tragic! It vaguely reminded me of the downplaying of the number of saved lives by Desmond Doss in Hacksaw Ridge - no one would believe it. Different side of the coin, but same POV.
@alexfroelich3404
@alexfroelich3404 5 ай бұрын
Check out the Von Erich episode from ‘Dark Side of the Ring’ Kevin himself tells the full story. I think dark side of the ring is on Hulu rn
@NikkiStevenReact
@NikkiStevenReact 5 ай бұрын
we actually watched it the next day - well done documentary and such a tragic story.
@akil_almaeiz5652
@akil_almaeiz5652 5 ай бұрын
For everyone wondering why Chris isn’t in this, his life story was broken bones and growth stunting from crappy 70’s asthma medication, he killed himself the same way as Mike a week after Mike. His story was too painful for the family to allow.
@lenorawilson2326
@lenorawilson2326 5 ай бұрын
I was a wrestling fan growing up in the 80s, and Kerry was my favorite too. Yes from way back when WWE was the WWF. Kerry and the Ultimate Warrior were my favorite two. I remember reading in a magazine years later how Kerry was forced to wrestle after he lost his foot, which I too never knew that he lost his foot. From my understanding he may not had lost his foof if he wasn't forced to get back in the ring so soon. But only a few short months after he lost his foot the one of the wrestlers whom was being interviewed said the witnesses the promoters dope Kerry up with so much drugs; it could have floored a horse. Just for him to go out and rustle a 2 and a half minute match. I remember thinking how crazy that was. Yeah so many wrestlers were on drugs in the 70s, 80s especially and 90s until Hulk Hogan testified again Vince McMahon. Then WWE started under going strict drugs testing, steroids was the biggest drugs being used, because WWF were only pushing and promoting the biggest guys back then. If you'll notice a lot of the wrestlers from the late 80s and early 90s how they suddenly dropped a lot of weight and muscles its because they could no longer use steroids to keep their physique without it. Loved your reactions 😊.
@jp-0047
@jp-0047 5 ай бұрын
He definitely had a prosthetic in his WWF days
@NikkiStevenReact
@NikkiStevenReact 5 ай бұрын
That’s wild and incredible
@evildano1313
@evildano1313 5 ай бұрын
Kevin used the top rope crossbody and body scissors as well as the claw as finishers. Kevin was an absolute freakish athlete.
@17vmrivas
@17vmrivas 3 ай бұрын
The scene where theyre practicing at night, you can see the flashlight in the background of their brother windering off into the night after drinking the pills, but the brothers can't see it, because of wrestling, wreslting standed in the way of possibly saving the life of their brother.
@dtgstl3148
@dtgstl3148 5 ай бұрын
In the scene where Fritz is asking Kerry when he's gonna get his shot at the WWF World title, he makes a reference to Kerry's old partner, Hellwig. As in James Hellwig, better known by his ring name, the Ultimate Warrior. Warrior won the World title from Hulk Hogan in April 1990 at Wrestlemania VI, Kerry signed with WWE in June 1990 and won the Intercontinental title two months later at Summerslam.
@TheB_Hyve
@TheB_Hyve 5 ай бұрын
I was a HUGE fan of the old school. My grandpa told me stories about Harley Race, The Von Erichs, The 4 Horsemen and so much more. I just loved them all. I learned to appreciate the guys of the old school and I wound up with VERY high standards of what a great wrestler needed to have. When Tough Enough aired....ooooooo I would be BRUUUUTAL when it came to seeing what the guys and girls they brought to train came in. I'm so proud of these boys and what they did for this movie. They did right by that family!
@ricobowen312
@ricobowen312 4 ай бұрын
It’s funny in the scene where Fritz said that Kerry was better than Hellwig (who is the Ultimate Warrior) you were wearing his T-shirt, not knowing who they were talking about 🤣😂!
@lorddjgoliath1809
@lorddjgoliath1809 5 ай бұрын
@40:16 - Kerry Von Erich lost his foot in 1986; he debuted for WWF in 1990. It was kept a secret from anyone who the family determined didn't need to know for decades.
@bobupton-e1u
@bobupton-e1u 5 ай бұрын
I remember I was like 6 or 7 My dad took us to a wrestling match. in the Dallas area. I saw Fritz von Erich their dad, Rockey Johson the Rocks dad grandpa chief Mavia and Andrea the giant. Even had all the photos and were signed by them. They got burned up in A fire. I would have loved to still have them photos.
@bad-people6510
@bad-people6510 3 ай бұрын
One of Kevin's signature moves was the standing leg scissors, which is a lot easier to do with bare feet. You really have to hook your toes. He did also get another NWA title match against Harley Race in 1983, it was a very good match and Race put him over for quite a bit of it.
@bad-people6510
@bad-people6510 3 ай бұрын
A tornado tag match is a short form of a "Texas Tornado Match," and you'll never guess who that's named after.
@Adino1
@Adino1 5 ай бұрын
Wrestling fan born in 79' I can relate. I thought I knew the story but this movie still devastated me.
@joshuabarnett88
@joshuabarnett88 5 ай бұрын
This WrestleMania 6 shirt is breaking my mind the entire video. I've found a picture of the full one but it makes no sense for the card in general. Warrior fought Hogan, Piper fought Bad News Brown, Jake Roberts fought DiBiasi and Savage didn't even have a match...I can't stop looking at it and being confused as to why it's a 6 shirt. Originally I thought it was a 7 one since that's when Warrior and Savage fought... I'm so confused!
@dnllrnt
@dnllrnt 5 ай бұрын
Well done movie. A lot of history shoved into a 2+ hour movie, some events were a little wonky, but nonetheless a very well made movie. Had to rewatch Dark Side of the Ring on the Von Erichs.
@brockbaby
@brockbaby 5 ай бұрын
I give them credit for doing the best they could without making this thing into a 6 hour TV series. And yes... the Dark Side of the Ring is a must have companion to watch along with this!
@nathanhollywoodbrookshire1417
@nathanhollywoodbrookshire1417 4 ай бұрын
Ross and Marshall are the Von Erich’s on AEW, the sons of Kevin and Marshall Von Erich also wrestles barefooted like his dad.
@JeepersCreepers2013
@JeepersCreepers2013 5 ай бұрын
I saw Kevin wrestle around 1984 I think. I have friends who played high football against a couple of them. I loved Kerry but Kevin was always my favorite. I got to sit up with my great grandfather on Saturday nights and watch wrestling from the Sportatoreum on TV. Amazing memories but that story is so tragic. Still remember the day David was found dead.
@MiketheratguyMultimedia
@MiketheratguyMultimedia 4 ай бұрын
I remember when people were first talking about the trailer for this movie. I thought "Ooh boy. They don't know what they're in for". But even I was surprised by the last five or so minutes. That scene in Heaven, and "I used to be a brother, now I'm not a brother anymore", just really get me. It's such a sad story that the director said that if he'd included any more deaths the audience just wouldn't have even believed it.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 5 ай бұрын
1. the three Von Erich brothers could have been huge stars everywhere. And that is insanely rare. Esp. David and Kerry. David had the southern style NWA World champion and could have been feuding with Ric Flair for years. And it was said that if Vince McMahon could not get Hulk Hogan, his next aim would have been Kerry Von Erich. He would have had the WWF profile of muscle-bound guys with charisma. 2. Kevin was asked questions about the movie during interviews and he said his dad was not like portrayed in the movie. They exagerated stuff for dramatic purposes. They made him more of a jerk in the flick. 3. Physically speaking, the only guys that was close to the real life persons in the movie were David Von Erich and Fritz Von Erich. The other actors were excellent but they did not visually look like them. The Kerry Von Erich actor was just WAY too small. Kerry Von Erich was a massive aninmal with a body builder body. Close to the Ultimate Warrior. 4. Kerry indeed did not have a foot for a long time without anybody knowing, including when he was in the WWF. It never showed. I remember as a kid having seen Kerry before and he was great. But when I saw him in the WWF, I thought he was so limited in his repertoire. He didn't do much in the ring, even against a great wrestler like Mr. Perfect. All he did was his Tornado punch over and over. He didn't even do suplexes. His lack of a foot would explain that.
@mckill85
@mckill85 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you guys reviewed this. I already knew the story before they made this film.....but it still broke my heart 💔💔
@TheDopestOlivellaOnEarth
@TheDopestOlivellaOnEarth 5 ай бұрын
I definitely grew up watching Kerry in WWF, but I grew up 100 miles up I-30 from Dallas, so I saw the Von Erichs a lot. I moved out of Texas in 1993. The week before I moved I got to see Kevin wrestle in the civic center/fairgrounds building in my town.
@jayetoler1923
@jayetoler1923 5 ай бұрын
Nikki nailing that promo was epic 😂💀
@deltablaze77
@deltablaze77 4 ай бұрын
The brother Mike, when he couldn't play music, knowing it was leading to him taking his own life, I've never seen anything more heart wrenching in a film in my life.
@stevenflores5988
@stevenflores5988 5 ай бұрын
My brother wanted to show me this movie for the longest time and after a while we finally found time in our schedules to hang and watch it. Safe to say I lost it and hugged him right as soon as the credits rolled.
@arodz21
@arodz21 5 ай бұрын
Growing up here in Texas in the 80's, I was a massive WCCW fan and saw the Von Erichs live many times. This movie is fairly accurate. But there are some time line inaccuracies. Also, this movie left out the youngest brother Chris, who also took his own life. I thought that was somewhat disrespectful to the family. The director said he chose to leave him out because he didn't want to pile on what was already a very dower story and to not make it a long film that would be considered depressing.
@SilentBob731
@SilentBob731 5 ай бұрын
0:01 Loving the Cold Stone Steve Austin t-shirt. Brilliant call-back... 🤣🤣🤣 1:29 Exactly! Pro Wrestlers (the good ones) are some of the Greatest Stunt-Men & Women in History. Mad respect for these folks.
@xsnowpirate10x
@xsnowpirate10x 5 ай бұрын
Another wild part is that there’s another brother Chris who tried to get into the business too but he was much smaller he had brittle bones and asthma so he ended up dying too because he felt like he couldn’t keep up also there’s a story that Fritz the dad developed a brain tumor and held Kevin at gun point almost killing him because Fritz could handle it anymore then another story is that Kevin stole a gun from a gun store and his plan was either to shoot himself or go to jail for robbery to end the curse but the gun store owner and a couple guys knew who Kevin was and they said “Love you Kev” and that 1 little sentence prevent Kevin from dying
@JacobPMendoza
@JacobPMendoza 4 ай бұрын
40:15 Yes. Kerry’s motorcycle happened a couple years after he won the title from Flair. Fritz made the brothers take an oath to never let the world know Kerry had a prosthetic leg. After Kerry died, his secret was revealed.
@amirfilmsstuff893
@amirfilmsstuff893 5 ай бұрын
I didnt know anything about the Von Erichs as im an "01 baby but i grew up watching wrestling and falling in love with it, that love faded away in the mid 2010s but man watching this was phenomenally nostalgic. Been watching so much wrestling since i first watched the movie. AND THE ENDING UGH. I lost my brother before i was born and i had always wanted to have a sibling. I cried when my mom first told me about my lost brother and the "i used to be a brother, and im not a brother anymore" just broke me. Daddy issues dont help either as when Kevin started yelling and choking the dad.. FUCK UGH I WANT TO DO THAT I FELT THE PAIN!! great reaction guys love it
@Nightmarigny
@Nightmarigny 5 ай бұрын
Huge wrestling fan here, too. I knew what was coming in the story, but this film GUTTED me. I have never cried so hard in a movie theatre. Film was robbed by the Oscars and other awards. When David died and I realized y'all didn't know what you signed up for, I started to get nervous. They left major tragedies out of this film and I still couldn't handle it.
@garycarfagno7910
@garycarfagno7910 5 ай бұрын
It is scary that there was actually 5 brothers who passed. Unreal. So sad. Great reaction.
@LouieR.4682
@LouieR.4682 5 ай бұрын
I grew up watching them on TV and in live matches. It was a requirement living in Texas. Once the bad karma happened, it was depressing to watch it play out the way it did.
@samblustein1918
@samblustein1918 5 ай бұрын
There was another brother named Chris who also committed suicide. Before David died he actually got married too, and his baby was born either stillborn or died of SIDS. Doris left Fritz in 1992. She died in 2015 I think. Fritz died in '97
@anthonycampos8057
@anthonycampos8057 5 ай бұрын
Stone Cold Steve Austin said that the Von Erichs were a big inspiration for him wanting to become a professional wrestler. God Bless the Von Erichs
@marcosgarcia25
@marcosgarcia25 4 ай бұрын
I was shocked as well to find out Kerry wrestled with 1 foot in the WWF as well. 😮
@rodneywoodcock8235
@rodneywoodcock8235 4 ай бұрын
I was a mega wrestling fan in the 1980's and 90's. WCCW was one of my favorite territories and of course the Von Erich's were the kings. The movie didn't really do their level of fame the justice it deserved. Kevin, David, and Kerry were like the Beatles, especially in Texas, they were literally rock stars. Kevin was always my favorite of the brothers, and I remember when each one died, we wrestling fans were in shock, and we couldn't believe it. I was so afraid that Kevin would fall to the family curse, but I believe that being a family man is ultimately what saved him. I can't imagine the toll that losing all his brothers took on him. All things considered, great movie. As I understand it, Chris was kept out of the movie, as the writer felt that another suicide would have just been too much. Chris and Mike's stories are very similar, so the character of Mike and his death represent both Chris and Mike for the sake of the story.
@michaelmerly3596
@michaelmerly3596 5 ай бұрын
The Part that hit the Actual Kevin Von Erich really hard was the Scene of his Brothers reuniting in the AFTER LIFE.😢 I know there are religions that say that Suicides go to Hell, but I like to Believe that God can forgive good people who just got consumed by their personal demons and give em a shot at Heaven. I want to Believe that God could forgive the 3 Von Erich brothers who took their own life, so they could reunite with Jackie and David. I want to believe that he welcomed them with open arms to Heaven.😢
@r-smokey5741
@r-smokey5741 5 ай бұрын
This movie was amazing. As a brother who also lost his brother a few years ago those last scene’s with Kerry meeting his brothers in the afterlife and Kevin with his sons just hit me hard. Also Nikki where did you get that Steve Austin shirt I gotta get it for my girlfriend she loves calling him Cold Stone.
@crash777burn
@crash777burn 4 ай бұрын
Kerry's run as NWA World Heavyweight Champion didn't end as a result of the motorcycle accident. It did last a few weeks before he lost the rematch to Ric Flair. The motorcycle accident was a couple years after his title run. Kerry eventually wrestled in the WWF after he lost the limb. There was another brother that was the youngest, Chris. He wasn't shown in the movie, and unfortunately took his own life as well.
@genecrossin5080
@genecrossin5080 26 күн бұрын
Pat Tanaka of the Orient Express did a interview a few years ago and he talked about a incident in WWF when he accidentally grabbed Kerry's boot and the prosthetic came off.
@brockbaby
@brockbaby 5 ай бұрын
There's a sixth brother that was left out. He wrestled and died by suicide too. Just a dam tragedy all around.
@bigjoeofthe707
@bigjoeofthe707 5 ай бұрын
1:06:14 yes he was. He played Lance Von Erich. The cousin. Excuse me mean “cousin”. This was around when Mike went down with his injury and Fritz didn’t want Kevin & Kerry to be the only 2 and Chris was still too young. So they enlisted a local wrestler to become Lance the son of Waldo the kayfabe brother of Fritz ( when Fritz wrestled Waldo was his tag partner. Which btw their gimmick was of a not-see). But however with Texas being football country and “Lance” being a well known high school footballer at one point people recognized “Lance Von Erich” and weren’t happy and some stopped going to shows. Eventually Fritz had to end the “Lance Von Erich” bit
@Gabe.baddeley.
@Gabe.baddeley. Ай бұрын
I just saw this for the first time last night. All the performances were amazing, it was such an amazing story
@regularguy8110
@regularguy8110 5 ай бұрын
Watched alot of pro wrestling growing up (TV and live in the HS gym). I'm here to give you a thumbs up but I can't watch it again. Rips my heart out. Glad you're watching it.
@michaelbrewer2069
@michaelbrewer2069 5 ай бұрын
I cannot recommend The Bear enough. Jeremy Allen White is PHENOMENAL in that series.
@akil_almaeiz5652
@akil_almaeiz5652 5 ай бұрын
Not selling, but broken back means you are paralyzed so his movement proves sprain or broken rib
@bigjoeofthe707
@bigjoeofthe707 5 ай бұрын
56:28 this part here gets me. That is an actual thing Kevin has said. It was either the Dark Side of the Ring episode on the Von Erichs or the ESPN 30 for 30 short on them
@AmericaFirst-1
@AmericaFirst-1 5 ай бұрын
RIP Chris, Mike, David and Kerry
@RaidenDragonClaw
@RaidenDragonClaw 5 ай бұрын
Here for the recap 57:49
@A.D.O.S.
@A.D.O.S. 5 ай бұрын
When Kerry died, Dad was the one that found him. 😢😢😢😢
@bluegypsy71
@bluegypsy71 5 ай бұрын
I know nothing about wrestling except Andre the Giant & Hulk Hogan, but this movie was so well done and heart breaking.❤Oh, and Stone Cold Steve Austin, he has a cat named Pancho, I follow him on Instagram😅
@cuddlywinterbearinhybernat250
@cuddlywinterbearinhybernat250 5 ай бұрын
YES I've been waiting for this! Can't wait to watch! So grateful for all you two do!!
@ronniearnold9165
@ronniearnold9165 3 ай бұрын
There has been one person that has Rick Flair's mannerism down to a 'T' and that's none other than Jay Lethal. Watch his impression of Rick Flair to see what I mean!
@joshuacoldwater
@joshuacoldwater 5 ай бұрын
46:19 - Ric Flair also has blue/green eyes 😂
@jasonaugustine3370
@jasonaugustine3370 5 ай бұрын
In real life, David was 6 foot eight and Kevin and Carrie were both 6 foot two
@SilentBob731
@SilentBob731 5 ай бұрын
23:39 "Yup, that's "Tom Sawyer" by Rush, one of the Greatest Rock Songs in Music History. 🤘🤘🤘
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