Nikon Z6III Vs Canon R6II Vs Lumix S5xII | The First Face Off | 50mm f1.8 | Matt Irwin

[@ivanbuckingham2302]

Melbourne must be a safe city if you're happy to walk around with all that gear attached to you.

[@dominiclester3232]

What a great video, thanks. I try to pretend that gear doesn’t matter and just enjoy the images, but then you give us a gear comparison and I just love them 🎉🎉🎉

[@HowTechnologyWorks3D]

I had the same experience when taking demo of the Canon R5 mark 2 with their 28-70 f/2 & 85 1.2 The canon s official sales / demo team was here . The colors just didn't seem right in low light. We just couldnt bring our selves to investing. And the colors / rendition of Z9+ 85 1.2 Z is another level

[@josephsworkshop75]

I really enjoy these comparison videos. The Nikon looks great. I’d be pretty happy with the lumix as well. I’m looking forward to the next videos in this series. Will you do a video spec comparison as well?

[@MattIrwinPhotography]

Cheers Joe, Yes video, build, ergos, high ISO etc :)

[@josephsworkshop75]

@@MattIrwinPhotography Fantastico. Good things to come then.

[@cesarm8811]

Hi Matt, I am a bit surprise that you left out Sony in this comparison. Just curious why. Enjoyed the video. I am owner of the Nikon z50, so a comparison of the Nikon Z50II, Sony and Canon APSC camera would be fun to see.

[@os6997]

Very interesting ! I would love to hear you about the differences in color science, since in the first image, even with the same white balance setings, there is a clear difference of color rendition.

[@Arnie_Liv]

No contest Nikon rocks

[@JRodPhotoArt]

Very nice review Matt. As you can see, all of the cameras are wonderful but there is a difference in lens quality in relation to the price. Well done!

[@GregGolightly]

Lumix is the best FF bargain out there. If you are mostly photo, get the SII (Non X). You can find these for so cheap

[@jpdj2715]

Making the sensors - who and how. I don't think that the difference between the light sensitive diodes in the sensor actually make the big difference. The sensor has photosites that pair each diode cell with a circuit that builds an analogue Voltage during exposure. and the combination is a photosite. These see the entire humanly visible spectrum of light (more). So in old black & white film jargon these are "panchromatic" as they see pan=all colours=chromatic. But that is still greyscale. Where the difference becomes very important is not the sensor but in the filters in the Bayer grid over the Bayer sensor. You have to compare that grid to a 3-way cross-over filter on your loudspeakers. Low frequencies have long wavelengths and compare to red, green to midrange and blue to the high frequencies. The cross-over has not just cut-off frequencies (wavelengths) but also there is a fall-off slope from the cut off frequency. Ideally, you want to cut off between blue and green in a way that the cut off frequency is at a distance from each other and where the two cut off slopes intersect they add up to 100%. Pace the cut offs closer by each other and you get a peak, farther apart and you get a dip. Here, not just the cut off wavelength (frequency in Hz with audio) matters but as said also the slope of the cut off. What this cut off slope determines is how much green can seep into the blue and vice versa. And the same applies between green and red. There's lots of art to this and it matters a lot. I would imagine that a camera brand has patented this carefully, long time ago. Nikon may have benefitted from their collaboration with Kodak in the early digital photography days. Note that colour film works differently as we have three layers on top of each other with subtractive filtering between them - giving RGB in theory at every location in the frame. What matters is that tere is colour separation filtering again and this will make a difference. This Bayer colour filter grid design then also impacts the raw processing a lot. Because in raw processing the missing colours from the raw file are guesstimated.

[@mikedavis1110]

Great video on a straight forward to the point of testing and I agree with you getting what you pay for in one’s gear. Looking forward to to the future videos and seeing the difference of the uncompressed Nikon file. I was really surprised with the poor Canon lens performance.

[@rogeriopeccioli1616]

Thanks Matt.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

the Viltrox AF 50mm 1.8 on the z6 would have been perfect to compare.

[@williambuford6136]

Great video Matt. Nice to see a real-world comparison. Would like to see the Z6iii vs the D750 or D780 with the 50 f1.8 comparison. I think the Z6iii with would have had a slight improvement with the lens hood on in your Alley photo where the focus on the Chain link fence.

[@gvz1538]

Great video Matt!! I have never considered Canon mirrorless, and this solidifies that decision. And as you said multiple times, "With lenses, you get what you pay for." Do you plan similar comparisons with other focal lengths? 35mm, 85mm, and 135mm? Although we already know the Nikon f/1.8 lenses are truly stellar 🙂

[@sergeyparishkov9375]

Thanks for the video! Strange result in shadows with Canon. Was Canon tested with electronic shutter?

[@jpdj2715]

While I watch the video. Nice imagery, Matt, really. The three shots at 8:26 look considerably differently exposed. Which of the three did you use to measure exposure? One, or each to their own? You cannot transfer the measurement from one to the others IF you don't know the T-value and aperture breathing of the different lenses. And, as the ISO institute does not define correct exposure with the ISO unit, you have to add a potential effect of that in transferring a measurement from one to another.

[@jpdj2715]

9:32 shows a red hue in the Canon shot, especially in the blurrier and darker zones. Question is if this is a profile thing or a sensor thing. No, it's never a sensor thing. If it is "near the sensor" then it is in the cut-off wavelengths of the Bayer filters, and the rate at which these filters cut off from the cut off wavelength (the slope of the filtering curve).

[@jpdj2715]

11:55 the Nikon looks slightly overexposed but that may be a matter of reducing exposure in C1 a tad.

[@jpdj2715]

12:44 - agreed, the Nikon looks the best on all levels. And it may have slightly more sensitivity.

[@jpdj2715]

14:00 confirms DxO Mark's measurement of the chromatic aberration of the Nikon Z 50/1.8S as being negligible. It's really great. Wow. The Lumix IMO is not even close, but a good second.

[@grantking4681]

Matt, great video, as usual. On a separate topic, do you have any idea when Nikon are likely to update the Z8 firmware, it's been a while?

[@RotmmDesign]

Honestly, I think this may be a good idea for a video topic for Matt to approach. Personally, I think the days of Nikon delivering exciting new features via firmware are in the past. After launching the Z6 and Z7, their sequels and then the Nikon Z9, Nikon had a lot of catching up to do and these packed firmware updates went a long way to recovering a lot of trust in the Nikon and wider camera community. Now they have somewhat won people over, I suspected they are holding back headline updates for whatever flagship(s) on the horizon. My ZF has only ever received bug-fix firmware and I think from now on the same will be true for my Z8. Sad, but they are a business after all.

[@mrdarryljones1]

Hot at night and no sweat! 👍🏾

[@ZWadePhoto]

A heat wave huh….jerk. I’m freezing to death in ZWade Photo hemisphere lmfao had a few -17 C and colder days here. Gonna make the dang gas bill real impressive 👀 Enjoy the nice weather buddy !

[@waveland]

I have to run for work so will have to watch this video later, but I’m sure I will continue to be comfortable with my Z6III once I do have a chance to see your comments. Honestly, I’m more interested to see if you’ve been given a pre-production 35mm f1.2 to test. From what I saw on Nikon Rumors this morning we should see a formal announcement in the next day or two.

[@scotthayesproductions5715]

the canon looks like complete crap. way too magenta, soft. Nikon color is easily the best. Lumix has never been on my radar.

[@mbismbismb]

have u watch he said about the price?

[@praetorian65]

@@mbismbismb I mean sure, but if you don't like what you get for that price, is the cost saving worth it?

[@dominiclester3232]

Harsh! We don’t have to behave like Tony Nothrup does to Nikon. Canon have always made an effort to reserve the best quality for their best gear, so I’ll bet their 50mm f1.2 matches the Z 50mm f1.2.

[@williambuford6136]

@@dominiclester3232 That would be a good test.

[@mbismbismb]

@@praetorian65 then dont buy... there is a 50mm f1.4 L series for that

[@johnhudson666]

Hi Matt - Good video but rather unfair. In Ireland the Canon RF 50mm lens costs 250 Euro at list price. The Nikon is 729 Euro almost 3x the price. I think the VFM performance heavily favours the Canon. I don't think the Nikon lens is 3x as good!!

[@JuanSanchez-zz3me]

Nikon doesn't really have a normal 50mm. The 1.8s is basically a high end professional lens, just with a 1.8 aperture. The Nikon 50mm 1.8s is as sharp as the canon 50mm 1.2L. Maybe that's not worth the price to you, but that's kinda how it goes, since Nikon went a different route with their 50mm. I suppose their 40mm f2 is their new nifty fifty

[@praetorian65]

The Canon is more comparable to the Nikkor Z 50mm f1.4, which is still more expensive but 2/3 of a stop more light., but then the video wouldn't be comparing f1.8 lenses.

[@johnhudson666]

My point was you can't make a meaningful comparison between Canon's cheapest RF lens and a professional S series lens from Nikon it's simply unfair.

[@dominiclester3232]

@@johnhudson666Yes and Matt did twice point out that we get what we pay for...

[@JuanSanchez-zz3me]

@@johnhudson666 I suppose it's time for canon to release a 50mm 1.8 that's actually good then? I'd say Nikon should release a mediocre 50mm 1.8, but the 1.4 is 500 USD new, and the 1.8s I've seen for under 400 used. So I think the used market has it covered

[@mbismbismb]

the green ish fringing on the windows though lumix and nikon 10:00

[@dominiclester3232]

I see no fringing, just the Canon choosing a redder tint to the scene. The green/yellow glow to the other two is overall, not on points of light. All 3 have different framing so that will have a small affect on metering, methinks.

[@williambuford6136]

@@dominiclester3232 The Lumix and the Canon are closer in framing. Matt mentions that in the beginning of the video. The green and purple fringing on those two is quite different. Metering could be the difference.

[@mbismbismb]

@@dominiclester3232 u r colour blind then

[@mbismbismb]

8:19 both nikon and lumix so washed out and the contrast is not up to Canon's

[@dominiclester3232]

Bizarre! This is the bokeh test. Nobody wants contrast in background blur areas and the contrast it the little that’s in focus is extremely similar. Try and stay open minded like Matt.

[@williambuford6136]

The contrast in the focus area was sharper on the Lumix and the Nikon, In the alley photo. I do think the Nikon photo would have improved slightly with the Lens hood on. I never shoot the Z 50mm f1.8 without the lens hood.

[@mbismbismb]

@@dominiclester3232 there is no such thing solely as bokeh test... a good image is judged by every aspect of it... deal with it