Nimbus One: Yay or Nay?

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[@CNile-se9xw]

It's obviously a city car, so the max speed is fine, the range is fine & for someone just looking to commute to work or grocery shopping it's damned near perfect. I'd be reasonably confident that with such a small wheelbase, the turning circle would be impressive & a lot of fun. The cabin volume being so compact means that minimal energy would be required to heat it & on hot days windows down would be fine. For me, I'd take the rear seat out & take advantage of the extra storage. I like it. 👍

[@get2zero]

There are two versions, one of them has a top speed of 75mph

[@CNile-se9xw]

@@get2zero Cool, but for my needs & a lot of other potential customers who are looking for a local run-around or second car, the restricted speed version is perfect.

[@bruce8443]

My 3 oftenest trips are under 3 miles: to the store, pharmacy or PO. The Nimbus would do those for me, so I’d get one too.

[@ccibinel]

Enclosed bikes would also be a good options for those kinds of errands.

[@iansmith6728]

a standard or a cargo bike is more appropriate if your area is accepting of bicycles. Much cheaper and you get exercise too.

[@yanpingyang9028]

@@iansmith6728 and Oops1e Feel free to use your "Open" means of electric transportation. I prefer enclosed, weather proofed, and airconditioned driving. (I live in hot stormy FL).

[@maudessen573]

For a strictly urban driver, this would be much more useful than an Aptera, which has become more of a suburban highway car. This little thing looks like it will handle almost all the use cases that Aptera may not do well: potholes, traffic circles, u-turns, evasive maneuvers, urban parking, etc. The height helps drivers of conventional vehicles see you, so it would be much safer than a bike or scooter. In my city, some people use golf carts in their neighborhoods, so this would be an improvement in terms of the weather, as we have four seasons here. If I got it, I would need to keep my conventional car in order to drive to the suburbs or country.

[@ambroulard]

Not sure what you’re even talking about--. You can drive across the country in an Aptera AnD there’s actually room inside it for “gear”. This thing-- pretty much useless unless you’re going to just stay in your little city bubble.

[@maudessen573]

@@ambroulard Driving across the country is not the same as driving in a city. Last year I drove across half the country twice, using two-lanes as well as interstates, and didn’t encounter the use cases I listed above. But I encounter those use cases consistently in the city where I live. My ICE cars and RV are able to handle those use cases…I have often parallel parked my RV, which is the size of a box truck. By its recent design choices, Aptera is seeming to be more focused on suburban and highway driving. Maybe soon they will demonstrate how well the gamma can perform the use cases mentioned. Until then, I remain skeptical of Aptera’s usefulness in urban driving.

[@yanpingyang9028]

@@ambroulard Ohhhhh snippy! Actually you just made Maud Essen's point. Perhaps you didn't thoughtfully read her post.

[@yanpingyang9028]

You left out one of the features of the Nimbus that is a strong selling point. The small battery is removable/replaceable so you can carry an extra and swap out if needing more range and/or charge one at home while using the other. I have a use case for the Nimbus. I do a lot of urban driving and its size is appealing for getting through traffic and especially for parking where the Aptera's width would be an issue. We (My husband and I - empty nesters) will buy an Aptera and we reserved a Nimbus. We will use the Nimbus when either if us has work in an urban setting and the Aptera for everything else. We live in FL so AC is necessary. Also a reason to carry an extra battery.

[@artsmith103]

Confirm, but I think the 9kWh battery is made in 2 parts. Nice for people to carry the 2 parts in for charging. Might have to bring the charger with you for longer trips.

[@glenyoshida]

I like the idea of being able to rent it.

[@ashisdas4971]

Till I saw the Aptera at thar San Diego EV show, I did not realize how big and wide it was. I also saw the Nimbus there and spoke to the founder and one of the engineers and was quite impressed with it and I think it would be the ideal city and commuter vehicle. The ability to remove the batteries for charging is a huge selling point for apartment dweller. They got to make it so it can drive on the highway. I don’t see how they can make it for around $10k, even if they build it in China. I am rooting for these guys and Aptera, cuz like you said the current 4 wheel EVs are behemoths in size and weight for hauling 1 to 2 people.

[@spacep0d]

I put a deposit down here in SoCal for the Nimbus One S. For under 14K you get a lot, and it TILTS. Can't say that about any other EV that is designed and sold in the States. I love my Tesla too and I'm an investor in the Arcimoto FUV (which I need to HODL for a while) and I also love the Aptera....but I've been wanting a tilting micro EV for years. It's finally being sold. Now to wait it out until 2024. The S doesn't have removable batteries, but I have a Tesla Wall Connector for fast home charging. I agree that the removable battery packs would be amazing for someone who wants to charge inside an apartment. Good way to build up forearm and grip strength too. The Nimbus One S has a top speed of 75mph and will have more range, so it's quite good as a city commuter or short freeway jaunts.

[@apexerman1]

Nimbus did suggest an X version with 90mph capability some time ago, but I suspect that will come later once the initial Nimbus One becomes available. But yes, 50mph is a touch too slow for North America. I've test driven the ElectraMeccanica Solo and I was impressive with the drive, handling and build quality. They produced a convertible concept called the O2 which added a nice recreational flair. Otherwise, the Nimbus is a compelling option. Just add a wee bit more power. 🙂

[@jamesmedard9989]

This is a great option for someone like me, I am a single senior. Currently I am driving a 5 passenger Ioniq but it really is more than I need. Before this I had a Fiat 500e I would have gone with another Fiat 500e but Fiat stopped its electric car production for the U.S. I just got a communication from Nimbus stating they plan on doing a transportable battery pack which would be great for apartment dwellers like myself, currently I have to rely on public chargers which is inconvenient even if available. I live in the City of San Diego and street parking is getting very difficult plus many apartment complexes have less parking than the number of apartment units in my case my senior apartment has 54 units but only 27 parking spots, my manager says 2 yr. minimum wait for a parking spot. This vehicle would take the smallest of street parking spaces and the availability to park like a motorcycle. California also by 2030 wants 50% electric vehicles on the road. San Diego is also in the process of converting many city streets to bike/pedestrian walk ways so smaller vehicles like this would be very desirable. Another nice option is to lease for $200 instead of buying. I also have an electric trike, but would feel a lot safer in this a enclosed vehicle plus A/C welcome in the Southwest. Thanks for great video, I hope this does come to the roadways soon.

[@artsmith103]

Confirm your ability to manage the batteries. Maybe carry each separately.

[@tw_lb]

The one thing I worry about reading their latest SEC filing is that they had a net income of -96 million but only $23 million of total assets. I hope they make it but with the current investment environment it could be quite difficult.

[@davidwatson9899]

I have put a deposit on one. There is supposed to be a longer range faster version which I will prefer. This version is supposed to have swappable batteries, which I will look at integrating into my off grid system.

[@sarge27271]

I would. I drive 7 miles to work....this would be amazing!

[@artsmith103]

Let us know how it goes.

[@-jackinspokane6648]

I have put my $100 deposit down. Can't wait. And I agree for $2000 more at 70 miles an hour I think it would be worth it. I'm not sure if they came out with the Nimbus-S after your video, but the Model-S will do 75 mph with a city range of 128 miles and the efficiency is still 370 mpge. I upgraded to the model-S. The last I heard is that it will not be available until the first quarter of 2024, but I can wait.

[@artsmith103]

There is also a performance model but battery doesn't come oit

[@ccibinel]

AKO Trike and Carver EV are both very similar ideas. Definitely seems like they would be fun as single seaters but Aptera is a lot better for my needs.

[@chadleach6009]

It looks a scooter alternative. Might be nice here in Florida where scooters are kinda impractical for our weather.

[@gildardo]

Even in California, it would be nice to ride it in winter.

[@haraldriegler6000]

Hi, I've owned an electric Renault Twizy for many years (which is kind of like a quad-sized enclosed 2-seater with a fun gokart feel), it's a really nice alternative. But I don't know if it's available in the US.

[@davesy6969]

I'm thinking about buying a twizy too (uk) and they are rebadged by nissan as the nissan scoot in the usa and are available on a rental basis in places like San Francisco. As a biker i like the idea of something like the nimbus 1 or carver but don't have the patience to wait for them to go into full production and get the bugs ironed out. At least the twizy is available and relatively sorted, although imho renault could do an updated version.

[@CNile-se9xw]

It seems popular to want this to go faster for highway driving, but in the real world it would be disastrous. Why? I remember too well riding a road (push) bike & being shoved laterally by spontaneous side wind gusts while doing 30ish kph, it was terrifying. Factor in that the Nimbus One design has a narrow track & a significantly larger non-aero side profile & you guys want to challenge freeways? I remember driving & following a VW Beetle & seeing it jump a lane from a strong side gust of wind while doing 35mph/60kph, imagine that situation if driving a Nimbus One at 85kph+ on a freeway under those conditions. 😳 I understand that the Nimbus One has tilting suspension while turning, but will it compensate for freak side winds? There'd be a good chance that the Nimbus One would topple over which means that any safety braking etc would be rendered useless.

[@greenbergp]

I wonder if the efficiency is at a lower speed than the Aptera as it only goes to 50 mph. If so the Aptera would be rated higher at a lower speed.

[@richevanscpa]

Good point. I bet Aptera is as or more efficient in an apples to apples comparison.

[@artsmith103]

They both claim 10 miles/kWh but I think Aptera is over stated a little. Partly because of higher speed.

[@balikbayan21]

Curious how much protection there is from a side impact crash. Otherwise it's like an ebike with a shell

[@Inland_Empire_Strikes_Back]

If you lived in a city environment, it could make sense since you could probably fit it in your garage or parking spot across from your other vehicle. But for me, I can't see it being useful.

[@ThalassTKynn]

This could work in some situations. I do like the tilting feature, like the Carver in Europe. It's pretty neat, especially for winter conditions. As far as speed goes I wouldn't want to go faster than 80km/h in this thing.

[@ccibinel]

The "Extreme Bull Commander" C30 is an EUC (electric unicycle) with a 80 kph top speed. Safety is relative (and some people are nuts). It seems that like the Carver EV the back seat is more kid sized and cargo is not really much of an option. The Aptera is the correct size for my needs with my wife, dogs and need to transport my gear. I cant imagine taking one of these little vehicles up to the mountains or on a forestry road but the Aptera should handle it fine.

[@yanpingyang9028]

@@ccibinel For your use case I would agree. To each his own. but for MANY (Urban/Suburban dwellers) It could be the bee's knees as my American husband would say. Even more appropriate in China(Where I am from) range, cost, price, and top speed wise as small EVs do very well there. Astutely, some of the manufacturing is done in China

[@deanmcmanis4862]

It seems a better competitor to Arcimoto or the Solo. It certainly is small and would be weather resistant, as opposed to e-bikes, and it wouldn’t be easily stolen compared to an e-bike. The $10k price is an attention getter, but you really have to need what they provide (narrow/cheap) I would frankly be worried driving that on a freeway at 70 MPH, out with Semis and pickups. To me, the Aptera is a far more capable EV to replace a car, and well worth the 3X premium. But in it’s tiny niche market this could sell as a NEV (neighborhood EV)

[@gildardo]

I remember the Arcimoto being advertised as a $10k three wheeler. These guys will most likely also raise the price once it's available.

[@kenmcclow8963]

My commute requires 5 miles at 60-70mph and 15 miles at 55mph, so they would have to bump it up. I would go with the Arcimoto before this unless I lived in California where lane splitting is legal and this would be very interesting. The Arcimoto can do 75mph and 100 miles range and also doesn't offer fast charging. The Aptera is a more complete solution, but for just running around in a city, I would use a scooter or motorcycle and there are starting to be plenty of EV versions for under $5k and highway capable for under $7k. Or a gas Honda Grom does well over 100mpg for about $3k

[@kenmcclow8963]

I left off my reply that the tilting aspect might give it the win over a lot of other three wheel vehicles just because it may feel more naturally like a motorcycle. It might be useful in cold or rainy climates to be enclosed, otherwise I may prefer just to be on a motorcycle. One reason I like the Arcimoto is that it has the windscreen and roof, but you can leave the sides open, or enclose them easily as the seasons dictate, but honestly in the PNW just keeping the rain off is usually enough and if you are going to wear a jacket outside you will be just as warm but they have a heater too. But while Arcimoto is stable it doesn't have the tilting wow factor. If I was to move to Florida where golf carts rule the roads, I would get an Arcimoto, but would consider this Nimbus if it had a good AC

[@Lucratics]

This would be nice for lane splitting in California during rush hour. I agree with you with them raising the top speed. I would only consider if the latter happened and has at least 250 mile range.

[@johnatkinson9530]

I could go for it if it were street legal for the interstate. 55 mph minimum 70 mph maximum. So say top speed was only 60 mph. And maybe increase range to 200 miles. Up to 15,000 USD. Sold.!

[@gildardo]

Look at the competition, zero has a model with 100 plus mile range and its $20k+in price. I have ridden Honda scooter and motorcycles. I have come to understand the special use case for each size range of two wheelers. Small scooter, in the 50cc engine size, are light and easy to ride in the city and suburbs. Moving up to a 150cc scooter, now your can take some short highway rides if needed, but it won't be comfy. It's still a good size for city because it's not too heavy, you can manhandle it easy. It's bigger wheels can handle bigger pot holes. Its suspension will still be limited in terms of travel, how much it compresses. My point is this, if you want to make that small 150cc scooter a highway monster your will need to increase the suspension travel, valve them for highway use, also bigger wheels to deal with those potholes a high speed, bigger engine to allow you to keep up with traffic up steep hills. After all this,it ain't a city scooter anymore, it's heavy and harder to manuever. A bigger battery and 60 mph top speed would be a nice compromise. That's pretty much a 150cc scooter with AC.

[@arturoc2c714]

In the Chicago land area the speed limit on highways is 55 mph. So a 50mph max speed vehicle is still good for millions of people. Also remember all the traffic jams in L.A. , NYC and other cities where people can't even go fast.

[@Name_Lessness]

Great for the 1st version. As years continue I'd be interested in seeing where the model improves.

[@ps7549]

The 50 mph speed is good for any backroad driving. I plan to do my 42-mile commute each way with the nimbus on back roads

[@ambroulard]

This is either a rich persons toy OR if you are a trapped in the city person it’s fine. It’s useless as an ALL around vehicle however. I think I’d get an Electric Motorcycle before I’d buy this thing-- more range and utility for sure.

[@norm8380]

It will come with two versions where the other will do 70 or 75 mph and a bit longer range but the trade off is you can’t remove the batteries .yes I would get one

[@hhauffe]

I put down the very reasonable deposit for one. I think it looks great.

[@mikek2218]

Looks awesome... I'm ordering one.

[@johntaylor6243]

Nimbus will come out with a highway version 75mph and 20% more range 140 miles on a charge $13,300. $19,980 for the 90 MPH 210 mile range. Side airbags, AI, Collision avoidance, no tipping, ... Made in Ann Arbor MI, China , and California.

[@jettmonninquisitor9245]

When can I get that 75mph/140mile/13,300 version? This is the perfect design point, I wish they would start with it. Why do you know this John? Are you part of the company? By the way, I would buy this 75mph model right this second!

[@LarryDickman1]

LOL I'm going to buy one so I'll have a spare tire for my truck.

[@richarddib]

The Nimbus is fast ... perhaps faster than the Aptera. The S version is 0-60 in 3.5 seconds where the launch edition of the Aptera is 4 seconds. 128 miles range on the "S" is sufficient, and charges in just 1.5 hours with Level 2 charging. I have both the Aptera and the Nimbus in order.

[@RCdiy]

I would not wear a helmet and seatbelt together. In a crash the helmet may break the neck because it has forward momentum while the seat belt holds the shoulder back. For a helmet to be warn with a seatbelt it should have a restraining strap(s) that holds it back to prevent injuring the neck.

[@sojourner4726]

You could put the Nimbus on the bed of a electric truck like the cyber truck. a it’s total weight should not greatly affect the range of the truck if my measured estimates are right. I don’t know what use case there would be for it, but it would be novel .

[@andremcamara3120]

Would be great around the city in Temps that are above 10'C. Would not be feasible in winter driving with a 9kWh battery. The leaning of the vehicle I am sure cause excessive slippin in the snow and ice covered roads.

[@gildardo]

There are snow tires available for scooters and motorcycles.

[@andremcamara3120]

@@gildardo my point is that if the Nimbus is a rear wheel drive nomatter what tires you use, including chains on the tire, the front wheels merely push and impact snow infront of them making it impossible for the single rear wheel to get any traction especially if the roads are icy. Driving in reverse would be easier and any one that has driven a small, light four wheeled after 2 or 3 inches of snow has fallen. MNy times in the late 60s I had leave my 66 Viva Vauxall at home, after a good snowfall and take a bus to work

[@gildardo]

@@andremcamara3120 oh I see, that's a great point.

[@yanpingyang9028]

And chains or chords for snow and ice.

[@yanpingyang9028]

@@andremcamara3120 and you know this about the Nimbus because you have tested it in winter weather???

[@arlenbell4376]

After giving some thought, about the only usage I can see for this is a suburban environment where the commute to work and stores is on local roads. I’d be afraid to drive this in high speed traffic. As mentioned, in the south (and southwest) A/C would pretty much me a necessity. I can see anyone wanting to ride in the back. It would be dicey to drive this in real urban traffic - NYC, Atlanta, Houston. Maybe survivable in LA😁

[@georgeidarraga4006]

I just watched another video on it and it will supposedly have heating standard, AC optional. I agree it definitely is a more limited use vehicle but could be the perfect fit for its target buyer.

[@spacep0d]

This vehicle would not be suitable for high-speed traffic....not with those small wheels.

[@teddystoner8288]

I want two. My two smarts miles are getting up there. You don't have to worry about parking in Seattle and for those worried about safety. LIVE! Safety will make your life not worth living.

[@garydzidowski1134]

Voting with my $$$, hope they start production soon.

[@SteveBueche1027]

Seems like a fair weather vehicle.

[@WyndStryke]

Looks like a 3-wheeled version of the Renault Twizy

[@jettmonninquisitor9245]

I can’t find any info on driving on snow and ice. It appears to be rear wheel drive. Only one wheel won’t provide much traction to push the two front wheels through the snow. Also, the tilting mechanism would have the be tuned for zero traction so the Nimbus wouldn’t become uncontrollable. Anybody know if this is addressed?

[@seanclark2703]

that 100% grade bit is the most impressive. not many cars can do that. this would be a great mega-rural mountain town car.

[@artsmith103]

45% grade = 24°

[@peterwakeman9930]

Looking practical

[@adchancellor1380]

I think I may want one. But, in my situation, I think a velomobile would be better. There would be no need for a license and insurance with a velomobile.

[@CoasterRob]

I'd definitely consider it apparently there is another model that does have a higher speed and suitable for highway Nimbus S I've never been in a financial position to own a car of all I need is a licence and insurance the I'm down

[@rbo350]

I am retired and don't have a car but I have an ebike, My bike only goes 20 mph+ and I can't drive it in the rain so something that can go faster and can carry groceries and protect me from the rain would be great but I only drive a few times a week so I'm thinking about renting a Nimbus

[@lesliefranklin1870]

I believe Powell Street in San Francisco is close to 45 degrees in some places.

[@whosagreekgod4135]

Yeah I can see this be more applicable in the EU than the US, because on top of being able to park in tight spaces you would need to provide more charger outlet's and specific parking spaces for that vehicle. I like the price but if it had a solar option it would be more palatable for the US market I think.

[@dhincks1]

First looks like it would tip over. The Aptera is elegant and beautiful and has the range needed for me there's no comparison. Like comparing Cherry's to a Tomato both fruit very different application's not really on the same page as each other. Cheers from Northern California!!!

[@qa1e2r4]

most of these designs are just short sighted and just a start but lack vision and impact. Until someone comes up with a modular solutions they are just fighting for scraps being small and efficient means that it is easy to add up. So additional options as add-on need to be in place for additional needs and stop trying to fit everyone's needs into a glorified electric/bycicle

[@suunraze]

Aesthetics and performance are requirements for me if I'm going to drive something futuristic.

[@robertkirchner7981]

Anesthetics?

[@luisvelasco316]

I think the use case is urban, maybe suburban. For the suburbs, maybe a few extra mph, but I wouldn't take this on an interstate highway. Looks like you get either a passenger or a small amount of cargo/stuff, so fine as a commuter vehicle.

[@p0kerp1aya]

In my area we use inner city freeways to get around..... so, no 50mph is too slow to be considered safe, especially when everyone else is doing 80. I'm a bigger guy too, so I'm not even sure I could get it to 50 in the first place. Nope, not for me. However if you lived, and worked downtown, and never had a need to get on the freeway....ehh.... possibly ???

[@robertd9850]

Not for me but I can see this being popular in places like Viet Nam where everybody is driving a scooter or motorcycle.

[@hammertlme]

I wouldn't really want an Aptera without the frills. Why compromise on looks, features, comfort, top speed, acceleration, and range? In that case just buy a used Prius as a better alternative to something like this. Maybe Aptera could later make a 150 mile range variant for like $20k though, if the demand is there.

[@Skylancer727]

Well this thing is more a motorcycle replacement getting better efficiency, great for going somewhere close, and cheap insurance. Aptera will have cheaper insurance than most cars only having 3 wheels, but this thing will be way cheaper as the main thing insurance cares about is weight, danger to others, and market value. This is dirt cheap, weighs nothing, and is thin enough that most people can just jump out of the way or you only take up a quarter of the lane.

[@hammertlme]

@@Skylancer727 I suppose but a motorcycle is generally going to be more fun, with speed, handling, and open air feel. The Sondors Metacycle is 80mph with I believe 80 miles range for $5k, plus the battery can be easily removed and charged inside any room. But if this Nimbus fits two people it could be a more comfortable option for those who usually don't ride solo. I've considered getting a Metacycle in a couple years but I think one mechanic of motorcycles is stupid and the Metacycle doesn't fix it. Pulling back on the handlebar shouldn't accelerate the vehicle, as whisky throttle is the natural human response when losing control.

[@EddieSheffield]

Hmmm. Wouldn't work in the rural area where I live, but definitely a nice option for more urban environments. Or areas where golf carts are common for transportation, although a lot of times those are retirement communities and especially if you wanted to carry two people ingress / egress for the passenger would probably be a no-go. Driver seems pretty easy tho. Places like Tangier Island in Chesapeake Bay might be good - golf carts everywhere and only like two cars on the island when I visited several years ago.

[@Billy_B_Goat]

The Nimbus One-S Model will do 75 mph with a city range of 128 miles

[@firecatgreg]

They have the Halo X which was listed as $19K but it will be more. The HALO X has a top speed of 90mph and it would likely be a death trap on the highway. It's not wide enough stance wise. I have an ebike and the ebike on nice days is good enough for more of my needs and is better than either vehicle in a lot of ways. Why? Well first it's available right now. The Nimbus Halo looks a little bit like a typical Asian scooter. It has a heater and AC option. I would want a heater for winter, but wonder how such a vehicle would perform in the cold winter if you don't have a garage and I don't. I know EV cars may pre-heat the pack before you drive with heaters on the battery packs. But compares these to a typical Ebike. . . a velomobile is going to take up more space than a bike a bike is slower but for short close trips for those who are for example retired, the extra time in the commute is not a big deal with an ebike but for the VELOMOBILE some drivers are crazy and you need to transition to sidewalks to get away from them. An ebike can do that but a VELOMOBILE will have major problems getting on a sidewalk as it's so wide and large. Range is not as much of a deal with an ebike because you are not going to want to go as far. I have an ebike which is a Rad Runner PLUS utility bike and a VELTOP roof option with a big adjustable windshield and half roof option. I rarely have range anxiety if I pedal assist and don't need to use the trottle only much or high speed to much. I can usually get by with a ebike without range anxiety but I only drive about 15 miles a day for my own errands, often much less. So he Aptera will be charged by the sun alone as I want the full solar optoin. EBIKES are hard to beat. HALO is for roads and safer than a scooter, but for a car replacement I'll go with the Aptera. The Aptera is a replacement for a two person car, plus hauling supplies like a Prius which means for some of us the Aptera is enough and can replace a car.. Aptera can replace a car. I'll probably sell my truck once I'm happy with the Aptera. Or park it and drop insurance on the truck. The Nimbus HALO with any form of power will not replace a car on the freeway as far as I can tell. I don't think the HALO X is a good idea, I'd never go on the freeway with it. The HALO seems more like a typical large handicap scooter like ebike we see in some Asian videos. In Michigan we have had strong side winds which of course turned over my ebike when it hit the windshield and roof in a parking lot and the bike fell over fortunately away from any cars. Aptera doesn't need to tilt to deal with winds while parked. How do I park a HALO if it's windy. I have to park my ebike with the VELTOP inside at times if I leave the windshield up or on the bike. I can't count on parking it in strong winds, Neither would I trust the HALO, so it's almost as bad for strong winds as an ebike as far as I can tell. It's heavier, but you must drive it in the street. I can avoid some rush hour traffic with an ebike, but not the Aptera or HALO. The Nimbus halo may TILT while driving but what about parking. If you're in a parking lot and the wind blows strong it will likely tip the car over. I get side wind tilting and have to counter physically with a VELTOP which has very little side wind resistance because it only has small flaps. It's mostly open and a half roof, the setup I have. It will keep me dry in rain and snow, but I won't drive a two wheel bike in the snow and want to avoid the rain. So a three wheel is better. The Nimbus Halo is a car for city driving under 45 miles an hour highways. It must go fast to stay away from cars and keep up. Velomobiles are useless in the USA because they are to slow and traffic can't wait and be patient for a velomobile. So they are the worst of all worlds. To wide and to slow. The Halo is a sweet spot above a ebike for winter and ice and snow, maybe. But it's useless for some in the summer. The price went up from the intro teaser price due to hyperinflation of the US dollar. I reserved to buy a HALO, but I planned on owning it via lease for a year or two before buying an Aptera. If they both come out close to each other production wise, then I'll buy the Aptera and skip the HALO. The Ebike is good enough for almost ten months a year. Why? I drive slower on the sidewalk but avoid pedestrians and traffic and I can transition from bike paths to streets easily. None of the others can do that. So the Bike is the best to me, and most fun. I can ride in cold but did snowmobile and wear warm snowmobile outfits in the cold. I avoid snow and rain so I can get by most of the time with an Ebike which is WAY CHEAPER than a motorocycle solution. Keeping away from cars is the key to try to reduce risk. But on an ebike I'd likely die if a car hits me. And with a Halo, also less safe than a car or Aptera. The Aptera is the minimum long term and most usable vehicle. Many systems are in the $20k three wheel motorcycle category and none of them can touch the functionality of the Aptera. Halos sale price went up 48 percent and their lease price 100 percent. And I"m betting their price will increase. Don't even know what their AC will cost which may make it even less attractive. I hope it can have an open window for warm weather or an affordable workable AC.

[@Leonardokite]

If it would go 80 mph and had a 200 mile range then it would be worth considering. And it definitely would benefit from solar cells.

[@gildardo]

I think 60 mph top speed and 15kwh battery should make it a better compromise.

[@bigbadLN]

Does the Nimbus One use hub motors and LFP battery?

[@GNiessen]

It looks pretty cool. But I doubt I would get my wife to ride in that. Though she is not really thrilled with the Aptera either. I don't live in an urban area. But I could still use it at the slower speed. Most of our county roads are 45mph.

[@unclegeorge7845]

Thanks Steve, I enjoy these casual talks on sustainable modes of transportation. I live on a 40 MPH (everyone is passing you at 40) very busy highway but this would get me into town and shopping. I think ten grand is in the market place but then I think most everything is priced too high. You might be up for 70 on something this small but I think I'll hold your jacket on this adventure. Suggested future topics would be the MLM from Arcimoto and the SAM from SAM(?).

[@gildardo]

A nice maxi scooter is almost $10k, I don't see how these guys can put this three wheeler together for that price.

[@yanpingyang9028]

@@gildardo Some manufacturing in China and a design that is simple with fewer parts. Similar principles to what Aptera employs to keep their prices low.

[@gildardo]

@@yanpingyang9028True.

[@TeslaBulldotcom]

It’s a bit chicken and egg, you can’t put these vehicles on the same roads as larger heavier cars and trucks, but they are perfect for inner city’s, once ice is totally banned from these areas through prohibitive charges most likely then lots of small electric vehicle will start to thrive, not sure anyone would need to own it though it’s more likely to be rent per mile

[@mx62455]

this looks similar to the carver

[@kieronimo1]

Yay

[@wardhagaman3139]

Just put down a deposit. FYI: a 45% slope is about 24 degrees?

[@charangohabsburg1]

I'm not a fan of those unaerodynamic ridable vacuum cleaners to say the least. While in theroy they are thought to replace cars, in reality they are replacing bikes.

[@yanpingyang9028]

@elzo stubbe Good point! It would be good if people would put a little more objective thought into their assessments. This is a candidate for a second or third economical vehicle.

[@chem.4919]

I would go with this over the Aptera if they tripled the range and kept the price around $10k.

[@spacep0d]

I don't think anyone can do that yet with the space provided. Battery tech isn't there yet, not for $10K.

[@elmelenudo8774]

Highway minimum speed is 45. So wouldn't this be fine?

[@bobbywayne907]

Nope, can't do it. A smaller electric Smart car. Just wouldn't work for me. I drive interstate mostly. It just looks goofy. I know it suppose ti be a urban vehicle, so I guess it serves it's purpose.

[@richarddib]

Top Speed is 75 mph on the "S" version.

[@bnjmnalan]

This thing can't split lanes safely at that width, I do it all the time on my daily MC commute and that gets sketchy frequently. Dense cities have even narrower more congested lanes. Lane splitting in that is a sales pitch only.

[@bnjmnalan]

It's got good range though. But if it did get to 65/70 mph that range would be half or less. Not to mention it doesn't look stable/safe enough for anything faster than 50.

[@BryanDoesCinema]

The LIT motors creation is way better in my opinion. No need for it but I guess it might be good for some people.

[@rodneilson5831]

It’s a bit like the Carver electric

[@edwardv54]

I really like the removable batteries, but the Nimbus is too big for it's battery capacity. For such a small trike it not very efficient in comparison to the Aptera. Those batteries belong in a much lighter, more efficient trike. Overall I like it, I've an Aptera on order and won't consider this until after I get the Aptera. If I were to make changes to the Nimbus I would make it longer for more cargo and put say a non removable 10 kw battery pack at the bottom in addition to it's current removable batteries. On a different topic how about a review of the Outrider Alpha now on gen 5. I've yet to see a good independent review of the Outrider Alpha. It's even more of a niche trike than the Nimbus. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGnVe4qse9t0rqM

[@artsmith103]

I think that's a hint the Aptera 10 miles/kWh is overstated. Looking forward to real Aptera data.

[@amightysailingman]

I'd like one, but it's vaporware. So, nay. They're still in prototype stage after years and nowhere near raised enough money for a factory. Arcimoto has a simpler vehicle and they're barely staying afloat. They missed their 2022 shipping date. Then their 2023 shipping date. And we're weeks away from them missing their Q1 2024 ship date, especially since they still don't have a factory or production line or for that matter a production-ready prototype.

[@guyskeer5411]

6'5" 350....NOPE!

[@Skylancer727]

So it's basically the Toyota iRoad. The 3 wheeled two person "car" that is fully electric. Sadly the Toyota iRoad was never buyable. Toyota only sells it to rental firms for driving around Tokyo Japan. From what I know it's never been anywhere else in the world. Though I did see a ride in one on youtube, can definitely say I see why. It seems to have been cheaped the hell out with it having basically no suspension. These small expansion gaps on the highway which other cars glided over, that thing hit it like a curb. Okay they even have the iRoad in the video of theirs. But again, the difference is this seems to be one you can buy, while you can't buy an iRoad.

[@artsmith103]

45% slope is 24°

[@Sondan1988]

HECK NO !!! Even with an airbag that think looks like a death trap. Imagine you are travelling at 35 mph and someone hits you head on also travelling at 35 mph.

[@yanpingyang9028]

Hmmmm try the same situation riding a motor cycle

[@Sondan1988]

@@yanpingyang9028 am I riding a motorcycle ?

[@yanpingyang9028]

@@Sondan1988 MANY do without worrying about a collision😀

[@Sondan1988]

@@yanpingyang9028 LOL Then I am not the MANY.

[@djsandvig1]

0-30 in 3 seconds….not peppy. And these are claimed performance as measured ( by the mfr. ) I ride motorcycles and therefore do not have the safety trepidation that some have. I like the weather protection but the performance is abysmal. And the second seat must be for a legless child or a bag of groceries.

[@robertkirchner7981]

The rear passenger sits with their legs on each side of the driver.

[@peterwakeman9930]

Need fresh flitted air?

[@robertm1112]

its top speed makes it unviable. if it cant do at least 200 miles at 80MPH it's not something I will buy.

[@rngalston]

The tilt feature is a hoot I guess. Think Carver: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baGYhqyjYr6Xd8U Can't say I'd purchase either but if I had the opportunity would love to drive it!

[@calebtownley9290]

Just 15 miles per hour faster…

[@JohnboyCollins]

Not impressed with the specs for the price. It's in a "real vehicle" price range, but it's not a real vehicle.

[@yanpingyang9028]

Hmmmm what real vehicles can you buy for 10K or 13K??????

[@JohnboyCollins]

@@yanpingyang9028 You can pick up a Chevy Spark for a little over 14K.

[@usaverageguy]

Nay

[@randylenart9674]

To small not enough miles per charge and not fast enough

[@richierich440007]

Nay! Final answer 👊🇺🇸🇨🇦

[@Salanan]

big nay from me.

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

No way! Not my cup of tea.

[@rickshaw5623]

These won't sell, just stupid idea.

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[@ApteraOwnersClub]

Excited to check you guys out at Fully Charged this weekend!

[@yanpingyang9028]

I have reserved Nimbus vehicles based on Steve's Fully Charged review and his enthusiasm for the vehicle. We will rent Nimbus One's and will buy Nimbus One S's. The rental is to use until the One S is in delivery. One each for me and my husband. We will see who can deliver first, Nimbus or Aptera. We will keep the brand(s) that best match our use cases and some common ones. We are currently Tesla Model 3 drivers. We are both STEM people and will use a formal DOE (Design of Experiments) and do a detailed competitive analysis of Nimbus and Aptera. My husband does this for a current legacy vehicle manufacturer transitioning to EV products. We are excited to do this as an enjoyable family project with the participation of our engineering and scientist children. Yes we are a family of nerds!🤪