Nine Inch Nails Terrible Lie // Pastor Reaction // Lyrical Analysis

Nine Inch Nails Terrible Lie Reaction and Analysis
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[@curtis8966]

You should follow this video up with the song Find My Way by NIN as well, which was made roughly 25 years after Terrible Lie. It would make for a great companion piece to this video because both songs are tangentially related, with Find My Way being a reflection on who he used to be. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5e2hp9_qLKHkNU

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

Done

[@yomo1690]

NIN "Heresy" is what you SHOULD react to.

[@mregamlat]

Metallica - The Good That Failed, or Devil's Dance

[@wearenotamused6455]

You may want to steer clear of "Closer"... But listen to "Something I can Never Have".

[@cartilago28]

"Heresy" by Nine Inch Nails is the song to react

[@MinorInfluence92]

K this is also about religion.

[@Mintycreature]

Cannot like this comment any harder!

[@DrFinkelstein99]

100% agree

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

--Hel-- Heck, why not God Given and Find My Way too? And to round out the list of religion-themed NIN songs, Closer :p

[@74810Eric]

@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Find my way would be so interesting to analyse in context with past songs and see some kind of evolution in his faith.

[@brianlawrence8314]

One of the greatest albums ever made, every song is perfection

[@matthewmoneypit1558]

Amen to that

[@theCaslin]

This album got me through my first REAL heartbreak

[@ManBurningTTV]

Thank you for FINALLY doing NIN. I've been requesting it for months, lol. But, I was hoping to see "HERESY" by NIN. Either way, I'll take what I can get, haha.

[@imtrieco2483]

TheCube360 i was going to request NIN also, but i was gonna say terrible lie or head like a hole.

[@griffisjm]

Heresy tho is from the middle of a concept album by Reznor about a guy who is tearing down everything around him in a "downward spiral" where as terrible lie is more of an honest look into his feelings toward religion

[@moonlily1]

@@griffisjm Yeah, but who is that guy? It isn't NOT Trent. And there isn't the only difference in the sentiments in each song is the tone is more sad in the former and angry in the latter. But the underlying conclusion is the same: Christianity is bullshit. Which it is.

[@stonecold5373]

NIN is so good....

[@pjsin9472]

Absolutely love this song. People don't understand Reznor. He wrote this entire album on an Apple computer by himself

[@suffersystemstudios]

I would have actually loved to hear your thoughts on Nine Inch Nails Heresy. That would have been quite the reaction I think

[@The_Knight_Mayor]

YES@!

[@bigguy1164]

Then 2013's 'Find My Way'

[@Puscifer1185]

😮😅

[@blakebower2752]

I came here to request that song

[@Surehill]

You are right, Heresy is what they should listen to.

[@ethan9590]

In 1994, I was 13 and I gave my friend "The Downward Spiral" for his birthday. His family was very religious and his mother immediately read the lyrics. They were very upset with me and confronted me with anger and dismay. They didn't understand how I could think this was an okay, and how my parents would buy this for me to give as a gift. To me the lyrics meant nothing and I never thought twice about them. When I got older, told this story to some friends, and we all I realized how bad the lyrics would come across to a deeply religious person. They were so angry. Still, it is one of the best albums ever made.

[@Someone-hv7tv]

I kinda see that album as a warning not to go down that path. I mean the protagonist loses everything he loves and kills himself. I am not justifying the lyrics but I understand some, not all, of the feelings in them.

[@darkcognitive]

"Makes me wonder if they deserve the label industrial metal" You have much to learn, young padawan. Much.

[@mcnulty555]

So true! NIN is Industrial Metal. Still my favorite band!

[@HarlowTheoryX]

Yeah I lost it at that as well.....

[@lolitalo7793]

Isnt it actually Nu metal?

[@mosskey]

It's valid imo, especially with PHM. There's a lot of early NIN that's rooted in Trent's previous group and music that's more "dance/electronic". "Down in it" and "kinda I want to" are. what I think, other good examples of that But 100% definitely that changes. I just wanted to mention that there's a lot of awesome 80s bands that influenced NIN that a lot of fans of NIN might initially look into because it is considered pop or dance music from then. Cheer friends

[@nataliam9764]

NIN created Industrial metal, lol. 🤦‍♀️

[@gressfes5911]

Also...the lyrics "can this world really be as sad as it seems?" That hits deep. As someone in my mid 30s, hearing this song again for the first time in YEARS, it makes me wonder. It seems there is more hate and ugliness as time goes on.

[@gressfes5911]

@Brian Cairns since I was quite young growing up with them, I really didn't understand/appreciate the lyrics until I started listening to them again in my late 20s.

[@taffysaur]

Jennifer White Actually if you look at the metrics, things like violent crime, extreme poverty, infant mortality, starvation, they’re all steadily going down. Every year is the new low point in history for all these negative things. Take heart, it is getting better, though it might not sound like it from what the... ahem... “news” tells you every night.

[@Len_M.]

@@taffysaur Unfortunately, violent crime is going up and it's getting worse. They don't even keep criminals in prison anymore it seems. They do something and they are back out the next day to do it again. While they try to crucify People that were only trying to defend themselves. It's sad.

[@6Haunted-Days]

lmfao yea there was no hate violence and ugliness 800yrs ago ..as an example. My god..I can TELL you’re massively uneducated in ANY HISTORY…..😂🙄🤡

[@6Haunted-Days]

@@Len_M.what TF. WRONG. Ya do know there’s stats…..it was WAY WAY more violent in the 80s and 90s violent crime and murder was 30% HIGHER than now. But you ignorant uneducated people wanna claim is o so much worse now. Can’t stand willful ignorance you can stats up ya know….🙄🤡

[@everdownwardandon7124]

As someone who is not religious in anyway, I still very much enjoy and appreciate these reactions and in depth conversations you have. I respect the passion and your wants to teach and analyze one of mankind's most influential forms of expression, music. Also NIN is my favorite band of all time, so thank you especially for that too!

[@Isaac_Davis_]

“Makes me wonder if they deserve the label industrial metal” nine inch nails was never really categorized wholly as industrial metal, just..industrial. If you want a harder song by NIN check out Wish, it’s badass. You want to review industrial metal check out Fear factory... in particular Fear Factory - Resurrection. It’s a good one for y’all to discuss.

[@kvaldez46]

Or Christploitation

[@michaelpopple8744]

Or Happiness in Slavery!!!!

[@matthewrandall9833]

Good call dude they should also listen to March of the pigs

[@compufirststore]

Pisschrist?

[@moustachio05]

Or head like a hole

[@MrFatbad]

So, confession time, I don't believe in the Christian God, I'm agnostic leaning athiestist, but I've always enjoyed the well thought out and articulated views you express on these videos

[@empress9554]

⬆️ same

[@IceKoldKilla]

Agreed. Same here.

[@Hexx_Iztenze]

Same here I'm more agnostic. This is the first reaction of his I'd seen (probably came up as I am a huge NIN fan) and I really enjoyed it which was a surprise TBH. He seems like a chilled out guy.

[@clipcalhoon]

Eve Marie Post I just like seeing how the devout frame things and perceive the world, it’s not for me but it’s interesting nonetheless

[@danielbrunner7730]

Yes I love how they both don't belittle others beliefs and feelings that may be different than theirs! I myself was raised Catholic and even went through school till hs. My feelings and beliefs have changed drastically mainly because of how hipocritical alot of christians are. Especially the ones that act and let people think they are so religious and pious. Money amongst many different religions is also another! I feel in a way I'm mjk in reverse as far as beliefs go very religious first and then angrily not almost! Not sure how to really explain what I mean? I think I'm agnostic really? Especially when you look at how most religions really have the same major outline as if was created to control the masses by fear in a way. I just really enjoy how they compare and then explain what and why they may believe differently without acting as if they are better and they are terrible people. Early tool and even APC had MJK expressing his anger directly at God for how his mother was made to live incompacitated for most of her life and no matter how bad she had it she didn't waiver on her beliefs. Anyway sorry for rambling on there! Lol

[@miketrg]

The lyric “Hey God” before each line is left out. The lyrics make more sense with that part in there as he’s speaking to God asking these questions.

[@joshburns4611]

I personally like that the Hey God part is silent or synthesized because then the lyrics can take on different interpretations depending on who's listening.

[@dalenewberry4610]

One song o would really like to a lyrical analysis of is the NIN song “Wish.” Musically way different than this too

[@xenophagia]

You just want them to hear the "fist fuck" part 😂

[@tompaauwe4565]

How about Heresy? :)

[@troytalbot5746]

Yes! An HD live version of Wish, or just the one off of Beside you in time.

[@Dom_Smalls]

I just showed someone this reaction based on the fact that we both share a love of Nine Inch Nails. She and I also differ fundamentally in our faith, where she could be considered a pagan or agnostic and I'm as a spiritual christian (catholic-born). Although knowing the reaction I would get is less-than-loving, I would like to share what she said just to give some context, coming from someone that doesn't share the same thought pattern as me: in so many words, she thinks you may have missed the point. In her view, the Terrible Lie isn't generally the quid-pro-quo relationship that "if I am good then I must be given something", the Terrible Lie is putting 'too much' faith in an institution that doesn't give anything back-- that it's a crisis-of-faith that arises when someone has doubts that their best-laid foundation has been shaken and has nothing else to fall back on than to come crawling back to their church and surround themselves with people that support their victim complex. The "Lie" isn't in the fundamental teachings of the church or the bible, it's in the institution. She commended your willingness to believe that it was a metaphor for something, but did not think you applied the metaphorical lens in the correct way. It was a metaphor, not for love and not for drugs, but the nothingness that someone feels when they're left without any answers and are FORCED to come back to something that they don't believe in because they weren't given the chance to develop their own moral compass or coping mechanisms for the world being as fear-inspiring as it is. They've lost all their life's meaning because the only thing they've put any effort into is their faith, kind of like if you bet all of your money on one horse in a race. It's the culture of "believe in Him and nothing else, not even yourself" that is the Lie. The supposed character in the song (Trent or someone nameless) eventually doesn't have a choice but to throw up their hands and say "I'm afraid, and I'm afraid of the hopeless alternative if this is how the world really is, and I don't know how to express that in a healthy way, so all I can do is just go back to church". An example she gave was women who save themselves for marriage, who are told by everyone that they should and it is the Godly thing to do, and during their wedding night they start to panic because nobody has actually taught them or told them how to behave during their honeymoon and still think they're disappointing their savior because they're simply unprepared for what sex calls for, then are traumatized by the whole ordeal for years to come afterwards. This is probably pretty late in the game because this is like seven months later, but I figure that you're one of those folks that likes to read comments, so I'll leave this one here.

[@EssEll9791]

Well said

[@DrFinkelstein99]

As a huuuuuge Nine Inch Nails fan, I'd suggest looking into the song "Heresy" by NIN. With a chorus of "God is dead and no one cares . If there is a hell, I'll see you there," I'm sure the two of you would have plenty to say about it. Also, listen to a live version of "Terrible Lie." It really amps up the rock/metal in comparison to the Pretty Hate Machine original version.

[@cooperbaird1192]

Finally someone said it! The live version of Terrible Lie is unmatched. Give me chills every time

[@snakeplissken6649]

@@cooperbaird1192 The Woodstock version of Terrible Lie & Reptile are some of the best i've seen from NIN.

[@mikkalbreeden956]

What always caught my attention in this song was still having a belief in god. Despite the anger, lack of understanding, and feeling neglected in the darkest moment, he’s left pleading with god.

[@eastlake93]

My story. And, Im a minister. Despite encouraging others, making the case, but feeling ignored. Every word.

[@christinav3964]

Trent is one of those artists that i pray for. I know these artists have been wronged by God's lousy ambassadors. Their hearts and souls have been "somewhat damaged" in so many ways. We need to have mercy and grace for these people. Those that have been hurt by Christianity.

[@dark_sunset]

@@christinav3964 Why pray just to feel like you're helping when you actually are doing nothing useful

[@logananschell188]

I recommend Marilyn Manson: Antichrist Superstar

[@DaRabbit_3]

Also Say10

[@Starr_Apathy]

Or The Reflecting God!!:)

[@edpin00]

Logan Anschell Idk if that’d be a good discussion because everything about he song would be refuted. He’d just say the exact opposite of everything Manson expressed in the song. More interesting would be to interview him lol

[@sirmang9032]

Man That You Fear would be a good choice for this channel to react to.

[@replicaofsurreal]

Seconding The Reflecting God.

[@jaycoffelt]

Nine Inch Nails (according to Reznor) were heavily influenced by very techno/synth/new-wave artist Gary Numan (who is best known for the song "Cars" from the late 1970s).

[@tacticalcenter8658]

They were influenced by so many heavy artists, including skinny puppy, ministry, but also David Bowie and other lighter synth groups from the time

[@mjonesuk]

Saw them live at the 02 arena in London, 2009 and Gary Numan joined them on stage for a surprise set. It was incredible, Reznor playing the synth parts.

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

This album was from 89 as well; it was pretty ahead of its time for synth pop.

[@taffysaur]

He pays lip service to Skinny Puppy and Throbbing Gristle and all that, but when he does cover songs it shows where his heart really lies; same place as mine, all synthpop/new wave, all the time (Numan, Adam Ant, Depeche Mode, etc)

[@jaycoffelt]

@@taffysaur, I like your taste in music (genre and artists)!

[@gressfes5911]

I'm so glad to see you back! I hope all is well with you and your family.

[@TheLostBoy1974]

When I was in high school 1989, PHM was my favorite album. Let me be clear, METAL HEADS hated this band. I don’t think they were ever metal.

[@TheHappiestGoth]

You might be interested in a newer Nine Inch Nails song called “Find My Way”. The lyrics are a really interesting progression from the guy he was when he wrote “Terrible Lie”.

[@replicaofsurreal]

Yes, this

[@colinmelton3815]

As a die-hard bleed on the flag to keep it red nine inch nails fan, I was absolutely gobsmacked just f****** astonished when I heard that song. This from the man who wrote terrible lie and Heresy? One of the angriest seemingly most bitter apostate people I've ever heard from? Just shows you how life can change how you can grow as a human being? That song was legit like a prayer. Maybe someone who's lost and they don't know how to pray anymore but now they want to. It blew my mind it gave me hope

[@dalenewberry4610]

I really like this entire album front to back. I liken the mood of this song to “restrained angst.” You can feel the angst but it isn’t as viscerally aggressive.

[@MarcusL1995]

This is off their first album “Pretty Hate Machine” which is more synth pop-influenced. Their next album “The Downward Spiral” had very dark themes in it which marks their change to their recognizable sound “Head Like a Hole” is from the same album

[@brandenlucero]

@@youarerightandstuff Broken wasn't an LP, it was an EP. The Downward Spiral is the second true full length album.

[@garymcmullin4825]

But there are songs off of Broken that would be excellent to review, and are more guitar driven. Wish, Gave up, Happiness in Slavery

[@archer60x43]

I’d say more EBM influenced. Since this is the music that I listen to alongside a few other genres, this just sounds like a more hard-core sounding Front 242

[@ericdesjardins.8081]

He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see He tries to tell me what I put inside of me He got the answers to ease my curiosity He dreamed up a god and called it Christianity. First verse, the rest gets very deep. Please review "Heresy". Also keep in mind Trent was very honest about his feeling and issues at the time. He is a different man now, however nothing can take away his musical genius writing, producing and not being afraid to speak his mind about religion, or his questions about religion. Also, be prepared, as the remark that you were expecting a more heavy sound will be fulfilled, in a deep and dark way. You will hear his voice a bit muffled as he was at the time shy of the words he was saying, but sang them anyway. Off topic, when he wrote "hurt" he was one step away of suicide, and writing that song helped him through it. And to answer your question if he was on drugs during that time, yes and heavily. You can read some David bowy interviews when he collaborated with Trent back in the day. Trent is probably the most interesting and inspiring artist I've ever known, even if today he regrets his past. That song writing was the best I've ever come across from any artist. Another side note, Trent played every instrument on the pretty hate machine album, apart from drums, which was a drum box. Wrote, produced and played every instrument, all while being torn inside, and this was his first album. My all time best album. By far. Oh, and and 31 years later, the lyrics are still VERY relevant to what is going on in this world. Thank you very much for this video.

[@Starr_Apathy]

In short, I think you are amazing!!:)

[@barneyrubble8255]

@@Starr_Apathy Pretty hate machine had a few producers and egineers, he also had help programming drums from his friend, and the hey man nice shot guy is even credited with little guitar nuance on pretty hate machine.....The only recording of Trent alone, without help is his demo, purest feeling....but even there i think he had help from his drummer. Not taking anything away from trent, he's one of the very best artists of the nineties......but nobody sounds like that without help

[@ericdesjardins.8081]

@@barneyrubble8255 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Hate_Machine

[@dvdthomas10]

I find it interesting that much of this kind of music has been labeled as “satanic” by some throughout history - even though it is written from the point of view that god indeed exists and by someone who is deeply seeking some sort of salvation.

[@bigguy1164]

you should definitely check out 'Find My Way' where a much older and wiser Reznor tacitly returns to God and admits he may have gone too far in some places.

[@sporkpilot]

AGREED!!! I saw this song live in at a show in Cleveland (where NIN began) a few years ago and was nearly in tears!!! Very interesting side of Trent!

[@spangsman]

@@sporkpilot I was there at that concert in Cleveland during the hesitation Mark's tour. They killed and find my way

[@TsmithJustin]

We're gonna need to hear a reaction to tools new song invincible.

[@Flyanb]

Justin Smith how about pneuma?

[@bigchungus8294]

@@Flyanb 3 individuals 3 opinions. I'm for descending :D

[@daverenken1371]

Justin Smith I agree. I’d love to hear what pastor might have to say about it.

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

Ima throw in a 4th opinion, "fear innoculum" seems to have spiritual element he seems to be coming to accept either God or maybe Satan. My money's on the latter

[@Digitalbath570]

Full album from start to finish

[@darkstreakaia5267]

Nin and tool exists on the same plain because both Trent and Maynard possess genius artistic talent.

[@mbelma6329]

The guy from Tool? He didn’t play any instruments or write nearly as much as Trent Reznor did It’s not really close in terms of artistic talent

[@darkstreakaia5267]

@@mbelma6329 one could argue that while maynard has less talent or no talent at producing records and writing music he has superior vocals and lyric writing. Still both are genius in the music industry. I appreciate and love them both equally.

[@nathanabeyta3873]

@@darkstreakaia5267 have you listened to any Puscifer? Maynard is a great producer.

[@ImYourPusherman]

TAPEWORM. If you don't know what this is, look it up.

[@darkstreakaia5267]

@@ImYourPusherman such an odd comment. I know what a tapeworm is, I just don’t see it’s relevance. Your point?!

[@samanthagolding3876]

Honestly Robert, I've realty REALLY been struggling spiritually. When you said "Jesus saves" and explained that it is from the wrath of God, a MASSIVE amount of weight lifted off of me. An insane sense of relief and I'm really glad I got to hear that. Thank you so much. God bless. 🙏 Edit: I honestly cannot remember the last time I opened my Bible. I did tonight and guess what I stumbled across? Isaiah 1:18 Once again, thank you so much. I'm going to ignore any hate comments I might get, because I commented this, because I hope you get to see it and know how thankful I am. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@elsieoliver1671]

Not a religious fella but love Robert's content and always makes me think. I'm really happy for you I hope u found the peace you needed!!

[@roberthoughton7127]

Samantha, thank you for being bold enough to post your comment. I am greatly encouraged by your words. I am thankful to have been the conduit to deliver you a truth you needed to hear. Praying God continues reveal himself to you and that the gospel frees you from the burden and guilt of sin.

[@anthonygaby8858]

Also, can't say I'm religious guy myself but I agree with that other dude. The videos rob and Guage do are exactly what people need now. For the simple fact of creating dialogue outside your affirmation bubble, which is apparently impossible for the majority of youtube. Just because something doesn't agree with you 100% doesn't mean it needs to just not exist. People are limiting themselves so much and it's really inspiring to see these 2 guys acknowledge these things exist, give it the fair chance of an objective listen, and add their own perspective. So for that same reason it's cool of you to put yourself out there and say what you mean

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

Wow! I just read Isaiah 1 18.....I really needed to hear that. I feel God has been very reasonable with me as I work to stop sinning. Thank you sister

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

I agree with Anthony the reason these vids are so valuable is because they get the gospel out to those that wouldn't normally be exposed to it. And because people often get their worldview from the musicians and artists they love. Pastor Rob corrects the false views we get from our influences

[@judemendoza2666]

“Forest” by System of a Down is a great song and I would love to know the biblical interpretation of it.

[@keldrifdarkflame8364]

Good song! I would also like to hear some thoughts and opinions on "Holy Mountains" by SoaD .

[@lupuionut6286]

Or Suite Pee

[@InMediasRes_vo]

@@keldrifdarkflame8364 Holy Mountains! Such a good song! Hits hard every time I hear it.

[@The_Knight_Mayor]

The lyrics are missing "HEY GOD!" Having those left out it's kind of important in a pastor reacts video

[@shaunhallonquist3483]

Have you done " Christian Woman " by type o negative, I think it would be a good watch. Thank you, love your videos.

[@marcguidetti3081]

if they do it they have to do the long version and not the radio version

[@archer60x43]

As a type o fan as well I can agree

[@stonecold5373]

Duuuude.......Christian Woman, Type O.......You've made my day.... I think they will....do it. Christian Woman is FLAWLESS.

[@archer60x43]

@@stonecold5373 yeah! The entire bloody kisses album is amazing!

[@nataliam9764]

No real Christian would be able to listen through that crap. There are limits.

[@mobrien7211]

The lyrics video didn't mention the "Hey God!" Right before the verses Edit: 10:20 good catch

[@tappytibbons735]

Yeah seems like the main point of the song, also many of the lyrics are pretty clearly wrong.

[@dvs620]

The live version on "All That Could Have Been" you can hear the "Hey God!" Between verses so much better. Makes the song far more powerful.

[@fixedG]

I think you misunderstand the song. It's no angrier at God than Jesus ever was at dad. Reznor wrote this song because he was frustrated with the hypocrisy he saw in establishment Christianity and was motivated by the frustration he felt desperately yearning to connect to your Lord, or any spiritualism but being unable to do so. The "terrible lie" referenced was the failure of Christians to be Christ-like.

[@smileygladhands]

I'm glad you caught the background "hey God!". That's an important part of the song. I take it that he's speaking directly to God. Of course, that's what meaning I take away. Hearing this song in the throws of addiction back in 2008 brought me to my knees, sobbing like a baby. Very powerful song. Edit: you should watch the Woodstock 94 version of this song. Hits hard.

[@lizardking8516]

yeah, the lyric video leaving it out irritated me

[@pr073u569]

This was one of my "comfort songs" in the downward spiral that only God's redemptive act can reverse.

[@debwallace100]

I'm a Christian, a 55-yr-old grandma, and I love metal. I love a wide variety of genre, but metal has a special place in my heart. I love your videos, and how you break down the lyrics. God bless, and keep em' coming!

[@sickmessiah]

The live version from “ and all that could have been “ is 10x better

[@allaboutsyn]

Hell yes 🤘

[@dvdthomas10]

2000% agree

[@Atom-E.B.E.]

And it has guitars lol

[@Someone-hv7tv]

Indeed. It has so much more energy in the live version.

[@charliet.sanford2495]

Thank you so much for addressing this. The church has failed the people by telling them that getting saved will fix everything in your life. I ran from God for years because that was the theology instilled in me. I watched my dad be miserable and angry 6 days a week, but act like life was perfect on Sunday mornings because it was expected of him. A relationship with God isn’t an immediate fix-all. It’s more like farming. It takes time, effort and patience to see the harvest.

[@DrFinkelstein99]

Also curious of you mentioning NIN and Tool being the same, Trent Reznor and Maynard James Keenan collaborated at one point. Their project called Tapeworm went unreleased and a lot of the songs wound up as A Perfect Circle songs, which you guys have covered. APC also opened for NIN in the early 2000s.

[@christinav3964]

The Fragility Tour... BEST CONCERTS OF MY ENTIRE LIFE. (also a person of faith that believes in Christ)

[@kzed.]

You're not going to get many if any other requests for this but the message is so strong The Chariot - "The City". It's chaotic but the lyrics are forever important

[@eatkinkpegs]

I agree- I wish they would do more in that realm. Including The Showdown, awesome band!

[@HBC423]

Y'all should really do noose by a perfect circle.. Maynard sings about halos

[@themissingpatient]

This is the 2nd song of an album. The first song, Head Like A Hole, sets it up. He repeats "God Money" over and over again. Pretty Hate Machine can be interpreted many ways but overall it's a break-up/loss of faith story. NIN didn't really establish the sound they are famous for until The Downward Spiral in '94. If you want to go really deep with it, The Becoming or Underneath It All. If you want to hear how far Trent has continued to explore themes of faith, The Good Solider or Find My Way.

[@shawnvandyke6340]

When I was back there in Seminary School There was a person there Who put forth the proposition That you can petition the Lord with prayer … Petition the Lord with prayer Petition the Lord with prayer You cannot petition the Lord with prayer!

[@guidosman9218]

The monk bought lunch!

[@dalenewberry4610]

Okay yeah since you mentioned the “prosperity gospel” You really need to analyze the lyrics for head like a hole. I have known several people that left the church and turned away because the bought into that and were left empty handed.

[@jonathanoneill8011]

Yeah, that’s why I couldn’t understand why the good pastor kept going back to the wealth thing. Gage (forgive the spelling if I’m off) was spot-on in picking up on that biting sarcasm. “Head like a hole” is a patently anti-capitalist critique and would confirm that “terrible lie” is not about wealth or any other temporal desire. I think this song is more about an interior struggle than a material one; trying to make sense out of the senseless (can this world really be as sad as it seems?), etc.

[@Swim_Jonse]

I would still posit HLAH is not about religion. It's about human greed.

[@jonathanoneill8011]

Rod Jonse oh yes, undoubtedly! I was just saying that HLAH (its themes: a god/money or money *as* god, as the object of adoration) makes it less likely that Trent’s singing about lost wealth or opportunity in “terrible lie”. I think the latter song is much more about internal struggle and coming to terms with the world as it is, age old concept.

[@sstaners1234]

Temple of the Dog Wooden Jesus has another great commentary for that.

[@jonathanoneill8011]

s staners ooo, great song! You should suggest that one to Robert. Would make for interesting discussion. Definitely touches on that prosperity gospel notion. RIP Chris Cornell.

[@jaycoffelt]

Another "Industrial" group from the 1980s that was "heavy" in their own certain way is/was Front 242. Check 'em out!

[@archer60x43]

Oh my gosh you’re another front 242 fan. It was hard finding your comment past all the heresy comments and Marilyn Manson comments. I’m happy there is another person here who listens to EBM.

[@jaycoffelt]

@@archer60x43 Hey, sorry for the much belated acknowledgement of your comment and my reply. All right! Awesome! Another Front 242 fan! Glad to meet you!

[@twiceborn_by_grace]

The prosperity gospel irks me. Because of it, people either live a false Christian life and the ones who don’t believe in it think that you HAVE TO live in poverty. If that were true, then what would God’s blessings look like?

[@keithsherri9096]

"Head like a hole black out your soul I'd rather die than give you control." NIN gives me chills to this day. The album's Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral, shows a person's struggle with life and morality and there realization that they need god but don't understand what it means to be Christian or what christianity means.

[@davidgillespie4278]

Should of been "Heresy" by NIN so we could of watched your jaw hit the ground when you heard the lyrics

[@dalenewberry4610]

Yeah, “Wish” is way more guitar oriented and aggressive

[@monkeybrainstew7115]

The Holy Spirit told me to walk 6 miles to church that day. I did. Along the way, I told the Lord I needed a job and really wanted a guitar, a car and a gf. I stressed that i wanted to know I had a job b4 I left the church building that evening. I got to church 30 mins early so, I milled around praying and chatting with ppl. When I started to go find a seat, I met a man who offered me a job with a company car. I was floored. Within 2 weeks, I had a guitar and a gf, too. Had I not obeyed and walked to church that day, would I have gotten that job that night? I doubt it. God is sooooo good, y'all. Rock out with your sock out and MunkeeOn, brothers

[@a-blivvy-yus]

Worth noting on the drug connection: He does have a history with depression and drug and alcohol abuse, but it wasn't until well after the album this one is from.

[@archer60x43]

I would recommend Pornography by The Cure. Either that or Faith.

[@pietersourbron2528]

That is what great great songwriters do: make the lyrics that way that you can apply it to your situation. In thiscase whether it is directed at god, an ex, a friend, parents... Trent and Maynard are masters in this and that is why they havean overlapping fanbase according to my humble opinion

[@gressfes5911]

THIS.

[@pietersourbron2528]

Jennifer White , not everyone has english as their mother tongue ;)

[@gressfes5911]

@@pietersourbron2528 I was agreeing with you, so I'm not sure what your response is supposed to mean.

[@pietersourbron2528]

Jennifer White haha lost in translation 😂 I started with “that” and i thought you pointed out it needs to be “this” 🤔👍

[@gressfes5911]

@@pietersourbron2528 oh I'm sorry...I didn't even think about it that way. I just simply meant I agreed with you.

[@CajunCoyote88]

Really enjoyed this. Number one, I loved watching someone listen to this song for the first time, being shocked by the lyrics and also admiring the unique sound. Bravo. I also really enjoyed the conversation afterwards. Thanks guys

[@davidedipaolo8640]

"the "riff" at the beginning of each line says HEY GOD, and that makes It so fucking Better overall

[@GhostFaceVillian]

I've been hoping for a NIN reaction! So pumped for this, definitely do another one! See a lot of people recommending "Heresey" I agree 100% that it would be a solid song. The lyric content from Trent Reznor is something to dive into. BUT as a recommendation for another band I would love to see somehing from Norma Jean.

[@chrisc4791]

This is hilarious. Jesus freaks breaking down nine inch nails. Glorious.

[@BernoZombie]

Right? Imagine suggesting Trent wrote Terrible Like because he 'asked god for a limousine' or some other luxury and didn't get it and got mad at him, jfc.

[@snakeplissken6649]

This was NIN's first album & was very synth heavy. The guitars are more pronounced in the live versions. As the band progressed it became heavier & the guitars came more to the fore. Reptile on The Downward Spiral is incredibly heavy with crunching guitars.

[@IceKoldKilla]

I'm not religious at all but respect it when it helps people. The sad truth however is that organized religion has done SO much damage over history. We could talk for hours about how they stopped science from continuing. The amount of people killed for not following what they believed in, the wars started, etc. Lots of blood on their hands which most hate to admit or want to skip over. Because of the horrible people that do exist in many organized religions, it has lead to people being used and abused in countless ways. So to the victims, this is their truth. Your truth is more positive and your experiences are what made you believe. Not for many though. I rather someone decide to pick up a Bible, read it and make up their own mind than to be told what it means. That's the reason horrible religions exists around the world. Misinterpreting the Bible. One quick example is ISIS. They use the same book Islam uses yet they believe their interpretation is the right one. Everyone does. Otherwise you wouldn't have faith. You have to believe yours is right. Which is why I prefer someone to take the positive things found in the Bible and apply to their lives without needing to go to a church. I know some churches are good though. All depends. So many variables. Nothing is just black nor white.

[@matiasrenerodriguezrojas3740]

React to Heresy by NIN...you will have a lot to talk about that song in a "biblical perspective"

[@aerobolt256]

Head Like a Hole would be an interesting one to see you tackle, as he makes overt religious references and criticisms

[@christinav3964]

Right, but that's more directed toward capitalism and consumerism...how people have made these things their god that they're serving.

[@jupiterscreams]

So the tricky part about this song is that right before every verse there's a two bass drum hit and if you listen carefully he's yelling "hey God"

[@drcanoro]

it is about someone who has been lied to and has this disappointment, frustration, anger.

[@sc8tty]

"Makes me wonder if they deserve the label: industrial metal" lolololol

[@WouldYouKindlyPls]

That comment actually physically hurt me.

[@hanaboskova]

Right? And you, industrial specialist, Listen to Trent, he said a looot about it.

[@13crazydaisies]

@@WouldYouKindlyPls "I thought Tool and Nine Inch Nails were the same thing". That one did me in 😅

[@brianrunnels]

It’s about a relationship gone bad and the feelings of hurt and resentment that come in a break up. He’s pissed the relationship failed because he thought she was the one. There’s nothing left for me to hide, I lost my ignorance, security, and pride. I see it’s as a case a unrequited love, where he laid it all out there and it didn’t change the result. The album is pretty hate machine, ie a woman. The album is nearly all bitter songs of resentment from a relationship. Listen to the album.

[@chuckh9168]

Yeah no. This is strictly about having a beef with God for simply existing. This is the middle finger to an absent deadbeat father.

[@jasonbeukema4949]

@@chuckh9168 to add to what you said; it's also why later in life he wasn't afraid to have the band yell "Hey God" at each of those punchy two note hit moments at the start of each verse line. This can be heard on the live album And All That Could Have Been...

[@plaguedoctor198]

Great discussion, but one thing that I noticed you didn't really cover was the lyric "...my morals left to decay," which plays towards the end of the song. I think it's this lyric which totally separates this song from being about someone who's angry at God for something material, or for not getting something he felt he deserved (such as a limousine or a girl he liked, like you suggested in your discussion). Instead, I think this song is really talking about the dogma surrounding most religions; in other words, what actions and/or thoughts fit into having good morals and being faithful. I know many others have said this in the comments, but I'd recommend listening to "Heresy" by this same band to get more of what I'm talking about. I think that song really puts it well as far as Trent Reznor's true feelings toward religion (specifically Christianity). I think after listening to that song, this song starts taking on a whole different meaning. Anyways, those are just my thoughts on this song. Regardless, though, great video!

[@lenxbot777z5]

He is saying that Jesus lied and salvation is not real..cause he has no Faith..but even God has Faith..faith in all of us

[@ethanj5699]

React to “The Sinner” by Memphis May Fire. MMF is a Christian band from U.S.

[@marcinpaul1981]

Well....Nine Inch Nails "Heresy" if we wanna stay in the topic of faith.

[@empress9554]

Have to say tool and nine inch nails are two sides of the same coin. Nin is so cold and minimalistic and very much a machine. And tool is spiritual and organic and progressive. Both are heavy and dark and both have similar attitudes.

[@jackjackson7537]

You guys are great. I know a lot of people want you guys to react to these sort of "blasphemous" songs, but you guys never let it phase you and simply interpret (and probably rightfully so) the songs as music by people in pain, or you dispel misconceptions, etc. I'm not religious, but I immensely respect your fortitudes and (very clear to me) devotion and faith. If anyone is going to convert me, it will be folks like you two. Much love to you both, and I wish you the best. Can't wait for more content.

[@stephenwatson7730]

You guys should check out NIN- God Break Down the Door it's off their newest release

[@levitibbit4899]

Please do one for "for today - break the cycle" or "POD - murdered love"

[@IHWKR]

"Ruiner" "I Do Not Want This" or "Closer" by NIN or another one you might actually enjoy is "Maybe Just Once" I feel it has a chat with man talking to Jesus for a short stint of the song.

[@Destractoid]

Would love to know what you think of the band showbread. They were a Christian hardcore band, but they were a bit controversial due to some unorthodox beliefs. A few good ones would be "showbread is showdead", "sex with strangers", "anarchy", "age of reptiles" or "I'm afraid I am me"

[@macena94]

Perhaps 'Heresy' would be a great song for discussion

[@justinhoffman4267]

I love your channel. I've been a born again Christian most of my life, strayed for a few years but came back to the faith a few years ago. Im a guitarist and metal head of twenty some years, so your channel really speaks to me. I love the demon hunter videos as Im a huge fan of the band. I used to love System Of A down and would LOVE it if you guys did one of there videos. Aerials or Spiders would be awesome. God bless your ministry. Jesus is Lord!!!

[@joshuaspencer432]

I'm right there with you man. Keep pursuing the one true God. He will not fail you!

[@jasonbeebe616]

Dude on the right was like... Shut up... Through the whole song.

[@bennett138]

"dad, stop trying so hard" lol

[@christopherrousseau1173]

Industrial metal, is perfect for NIN, basically because this was industrial and not played by instruments. Trent Reznor wrote and created everything on this on a computer. The layers you noticed were looped over and over on top of each other.

[@deadpopstar]

Marilyn Manson "The Reflecting God."

[@liamsweeney972]

THE Best.

[@jeffgo5742]

Yes

[@replicaofsurreal]

Yes please.

[@lindseyapplegate9121]

I'll be real I've been hoping you would do a NIN song for a long time aaand i was very scared to watch this video lol. This is one of my favorite nine inch nails songs and it is very emotionally connected to me. Their genre is more industrial rock than metal, but the song Last from the EP broken is has more metal elements in my opinion but there isnt much to debate on that song in the way of religion.

[@johndarcy943]

I'm pretty sure the song's not about religion. Trent knows how to write great lyrics that you can listen to from all kind of angles. Moustly he's just not very happy..

[@LastOfTheConfessors]

If you listen to NIN throughout the years, (I have - but I'm also a nerd) it shows a massive struggle with belief, but at a certain point he also begins to blame the idea of organized religion. Head like a Hole, like you mentioned, is one of these, as well as God Given and many others. The Hand that Feeds features a line that I love, but I want you to find that on your own 😜

[@JoelGriggs42]

And then when you get to "Find My Way" from 2013 it's almost a prayer.

[@aaronpotton2641]

Dude you need to react to "sunspots" or "head like a hole" by NIN

[@marksolano3485]

Aaron Potton sunspots is so badass

[@ShivaX51]

As far as other genres, I'd be remiss not to suggest God from Tori Amos.

[@christinav3964]

This Although Tori does claim the story of Christ, as part of her pov/imagined narrative/spirituality

[@lukebeasley282]

Trent was like 23 years old at the time. Also this whole record was just revised demo tracks that he wrote himself and played all instruments except drums on. Song writing just gets better through the years.

[@InMediasRes_vo]

'God,' 'her,' and 'she,' in most NIN songs are a stand-in for Trent's addiction as Rob posited in the intro. Trent's said in interviews this is why he doesn't perform, "Down In It," anymore, he's moved passed that mindset and has other songs which explore the lingering post-addiction thoughts and feelings of an addict. Contrast this song with, "NIN-Right Where It Belongs." Fans of Black Mirror heard a version of this rewritten by the show and rerecorded by Miley Cyrus so it has much broader recognition at this point. Fun Fact: He thought Trent was a better first name too, it's his middle name.

[@prodigal71]

NIN & AIC were the soundtrack to my 20s & spoke to me like few other bands...a very dark time in my life but they made me feel not so alone in my struggles...I was a senior in high school when this song came out....great reactions guys

[@FWDSUXARSE]

Both are my favorite bands for the very same reasons. Still listen to them 30+ years later.

[@kmbrooksbank]

You guys need to dissect the NIN song Heresy.

[@Zay_Lo]

NiN's Heresy is the way to go if you're looking for religion in NiN's language of art. The 'broken' album or 'the downward spiral' is also the best way to go if you're looking for industrial metal from NiN.

[@professornotoAmbition]

Man I'm just happy you labeled broken as an album. I feel everyone goes from pretty hate to downward spiral. So many good songs on Broken

[@Zay_Lo]

@@professornotoAmbition I have always felt like the broken album was where most of the heavy 'metal' aspect of NiN came in. I also know what you mean. I still see broken as an album since it took some years until they released their next album. Such great songs live in my memories from that album.

[@paulseigeldorf9461]

To me, this song reminds me of a psalm where David would cry out to God about feeling betrayed, alone, enemies out to get him. His despair!

[@bryancarnahan7570]

Paul Seigeldorf I believe that would be Psalm 88 if my memory serves me correctly.

[@unofficialoscarherrera]

"Gods" by Sleep Token, any ST song would do.

[@emarti57]

Id like to hear their thoughts on "Halo" from the band Soil...i know its an older song bit its a good one...

[@marshallawe1533]

Actually, Porcupine Tree does "Halo" much better justice.

[@richeerich561]

Good on you man, thanks for reminding me of them. Great song and band. Also reminds me of Vanishing Cream by The Hunger

[@richeerich561]

Reminds me as in forgotten songs I mean

[@dougrussell1926]

Doesn't show in the lyrics but in between the lines there is a "hey God!" chant. It's part of the live show.

[@anotherperspective8263]

Until you lose your own 'ignorance, security, and pride'; you will never understand what he means...

[@troytalbot5746]

Awesome reaction! While I'd say I'm a "secular" Lutheran, I really appreciate Trent digging into these emotions, and you guys recognizing the struggle and discussing your beliefs. One of the only bands really to explore this struggle with spirituality in music! The band has a really epic live show, probably the best. Just youtube a live HD version, and the emotion is even more amazing. They perform like they're playing for the pope every time.

[@LuciferMorningstar-eo9pn]

I really want to see you react to Muse - Exogenesis part 1,2 and 3.

[@LuciferMorningstar-eo9pn]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJinp2CglrqIfdk. This one.

[@KristofferSkjrestad]

For more heavy Nine Inch Nails songs you should check out "Somewhat Damaged", "The Wretched", "The Big Come Down", "Heresy", "Reptile", "I Do Not Want This", "Mr. Self Destruct", "March Of The Pigs", "Wish" or "Happiness In Slavery".