Ninjago Secrets of Forbidden Spinjiztu: An over hated masterpiece

[@DaleTheBoulder]

People forget that Vex is one of the most unique villains. He was a very unsuccessful manipulator, and even more unsuccessful at fighting. He had no reason to have such power, but by sheer luck he managed to control Zane to commit genocide and rule practically an entire realm. While Vex still isn’t the most compelling villains, he’s definitely one of the most unique.

[@demonking3673]

And Ice Emperor Zane was intimidating

[@DaleTheBoulder]

@@demonking3673 I honestly never found Zane as the Ice Emperor the main villain of the ice chapter, as Vex really was the one controlling him. He was more of a secondary villain, a red herring possibly to the main villain. He was pretty intimidating and powerful though.

[@sfsinfinity5862]

@@demonking3673yeah, definitely the highlight of the whole season

[@Idkwhyimhere5462]

In the “Quest for Lost Powers” book, Zane actually has something akin to PTSD from his time as the Ice Emperor. It’s actually really cool and gives Zane even just the tiniest bit of closure.

[@solekman916]

I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but upon re-watch its honestly a lot of fun, especially the ice chapter

[@hankmorrison269]

What do you think the fire chapter?

[@LiterallyLaser]

ice chapter w tbh

[@hankmorrison269]

@@LiterallyLaser The W doesn’t stand for waste it does it?

[@LiterallyLaser]

@@hankmorrison269 no for winner (aka i said it was a good season)

[@hankmorrison269]

@@LiterallyLaser Great do you think season 15/16 is good? Cause I do.

[@veryinterestinganimations4938]

Not only that, but Nya’s plot to control ice filled a huge plot hole in the elemental powers. S1 e10 Jay uses wind(but he is a master of lighting) Cole’s arms have lava in them. After Nya controlling ice plot they make sense and it was greatly expanded in seabound

[@dropkick3024]

I think the lava hands are just to look cool we never see him control lava it could be because Lava is always found In volcanoes large amounts of rocks/earth.

[@TylertheCC1010fan]

the wind thing was confirmed to have just been an error.

[@zeldagameryt4018]

I wish we saw more of that in Ninjago as it expands what abilities elemental masters can have aside from their surface level skills. Like if Kai can control fire, what stops him from controlling substances made of fire like lava? If Jay can control lightning, what stops him from controlling the weather like S8?

[@veryinterestinganimations4938]

@@zeldagameryt4018 probably due to the backlash this season got, im not sure

[@aris1869]

I liked this season, it was actually one of my favorites, because the writing felt so grounded and natural. The episodes where we saw the news adds and the paperboys made me care a lot more about the city. Suddenly it felt less like a plot device and more like a real place with real People. As for plot holes or inconsistencies, I could point out plenty in every season. It’s a kids show about magic lego ninjas. It doesn’t need to be perfect, it just needs to be fun

[@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243]

Agreed, for me S11 finally brought Ninjago City to life, which I absolutely didn't care about before.

[@Turbo_Marto_Lol]

Season 11 did the best job they could possibly do in terms of developing Nelson's character and introducing us to Antonia. Compared to Crystalized for example where they tried to do something similar but failed so badly

[@Doctor_Eddard]

​@@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243are you seriously watching ninjago ???

[@Doctor_Eddard]

Ninjago is not a cult cartoon masterpiece that marked a generation by being "just fun", it is extremely simplistic to say "it must just be fun who cares" for a universe and a work like that, yes it's a series for children, yes fun is one of its charms and it's important, yes nothing is perfect, but reasoning like that is just rubbish, where then to hate ninjago... it's the limit of leveling down + we explored and developed the life of ninjago city for 10 seasons... you should think about seriously watching the series (I would nevertheless like to point out that I respect the fact that you love this season and that I completely understand why)

[@aris1869]

@@Doctor_Eddard i watched all the seasons, including the reboot stuff when it came out. I still feel the same tho. For me, this kids show doesn’t need to be the greatest show ever, although I’d hope the producers put effort into the show. But as an adult now, I love this show for the nostalgia and fun of it. I had a good time watching this as a kid, so that’s good enough for me!

[@neonice]

I genuinely do enjoy "filler" episodes because I'm invested in the characters of the show and it's fun to see their daily life. Also, the paperboy episodes are so good for this reason, they're wholesome :)

[@urlyricist]

People don't like fun things anymore somehow... This season maybe wasn't a masterpiece but it was certainly good

[@andreahope7254]

People didn’t like it due to the nonsense throughout the story, awful villains and the butchering of prior characters.

[@jovankandola]

The characters all lost all of their development from the prior seasons, every single character acts like a child, even Wu

[@thateye49]

​​​@@andreahope7254 Aspheera was interesting on my opinion and Ice emperor with Vex were _🔝_

[@andreahope7254]

@@thateye49The Ice emperor and Vex were the worst written villains in the series by far. Vex’s whole character is that he’s smart and insanely paranoid but throughout the story he consistently acts absurdly trusting and makes the dumbest decisions you could possibly imagine. The Ice emperor is similarly idiotic while also being morally inconsistent. And that’s not even mentioning just how stupid Aspheera is throughout the story.

[@thateye49]

@@andreahope7254 Vex manipulated an op character on his favor, it was fresh for Ninjago to see a main villain who isn't powerfull. Aspheera wasn't bad writed, it was evil and hypocrite and after 1.000 years on a dark room she became insane (if you think it's ilogic how she survived, well, she's a witch, you could say that she used her spells)

[@darkdoubloontv8906]

I feel like Wu's anger is justified. This takes place soon after the Oni invaded, and think of all the times before that that the ninja's carelessness after victory came back to bite them. It's no surprise that after the biggest threat to their lives yet was defeated, he wanted to keep them on their toes

[@madisonyomans9004]

You literally had your world turned upside down by the villain last season, who also constantly brings it up? I always thought they shouldn't have been goofing off. Even though I would prefer a more lighthearted tone since it's a new season, it seems pointless to return to square one. I believe the characters could still be training, practicing their ninja skills, and studying potential threats in Ninjago to prepare for another showdown. They have certainly grown since the Masters of Spinjitzu arc. Even if there's not much to do, they could occasionally patrol and stay prepared-something they could have easily done. Additionally, they could have allowed someone other than the ninjas to release the main villain of the arc.

[@jeepmega629]

I love how experimental this season is with its concepts. Plus it’s insane how Zane basically commits genocide in this season! And it’s even more insane that he wasn’t the first Ninja to do something like this!

[@JezElectroAlt]

I really like how Asphera calls Wu a "Trecherous Deciver" and not just a traitor. It might just be me, but I really love it nonetheless.

[@Marlin123]

Secrets of forbidden spinjitzu adds: Expanding the universe Proper continuity (Zane's dreams) Fun characters 10/10 Scenery Creative storytelling

[@therealdeadend]

You know what? This season's intro song is underrated

[@dropkick3024]

Yeah I watched the full version before I guess it got deleted it goes HARD!!!

[@stanleybrown6993]

I liked it

[@spooderman51]

IKRRRRRRRRRR

[@MartinGerard-oi3op]

I don't think so

[@MartinGerard-oi3op]

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[@monerb7185]

it is very overhated and its a more fun rewatch than season 2 i will die on this hill

[@ProxyPlays999]

In season 11, when I first saw the Ice Emperor’s hand I knew it was Zane’s hand so it wasn’t really a surprise for me

[@annadanielsson8072]

This is one of my fav seasons and akita is my fav character

[@legobrickstudios21]

I'm so glad I found someone else who likes this season just as much as I do! I honestly prefer the Fire Chapter, simply because I love how they expand on ninjago city and give some insight at how the ninja are outside of their big world saving adventures but I also like the fire chapter a lot! I hope we'll see Akita and the other people again, though I doubt she is still alive if we remember that between Zane and the ninja going to the neverrealm were decades...

[@green-legacy]

imagine if aspheara didn’t tell wu where zane went 😂😂😂

[@ZeroJump]

I agree its overhated but I would never call it a Masterpiece

[@EternalEdits4855]

Exactly my thoughts

[@PATOBUNGAS]

Fr

[@razena1732]

I honestly feel the same way. I've rewatched season 11 recently and it's not as bad as I remember it, it's actually quite good. I think the only problem I have with it is that the ending seems especially rushed, but other then that, pretty good tbh.

[@saphiregough1480]

I really like how they gave Ninjago more life, I also like how they organically added another realm.

[@kristenkupiec7945]

Fun fact: did you know that vex is the real ice emperor its impossible to believe cause in ice chapter zane was the ice emperor but in ice emperor return season zane is trapped so the ice emperor has to be zane so vex was just useing him to get his throne back

[@ferniture_]

It’s easily my favorite of the wild brain seasons

[@Football_iranianmappingeditz]

Yeah I agree with you this has got to be one of my favourite seasons

[@miraculousninja5255]

FACTS! PURE FACTS IN THIS VIDEO!

[@Discipleship54]

Secrets of Forbidden Spinjitzu is probably the only reason I'm into Ninjago, it was my first season and I loved it.

[@LeCapPan]

bro this season is like really overhated- i love this season so much.

[@keebo3385]

I think the only thing I hated about season 11 was the end. Kai's big moment and Zane's fight/Zane remembering his past were both rushed so badly. They managed to take two extremely powerful moments and just kind of ruined them both at the same time.

[@shakkeershukkoor3244]

that is surely the problem

[@timebomb42]

100%, I think that was them learning how to master the 11-minute format, and so as a result they kind of rushed things.

[@brybot3288]

I found it hilarious that Akita basically gave the narration from Avatar when we entered the never realm and the fact that Zane as the Ice Emperor was this versions fire nation

[@ChickenTablet96]

season 11 is awesome, sure it does have some filler-ish plots going on to it, but i love its plot and character arcs

[@Ordnance_T]

In wu's defense every single time the ninja slack off between seasons a new evil bad guy shows up

[@Discipleship54]

13:05 It would be so cool to meet Akita and Kataru in Dragons rising and it could call back to when Akita said that she knows she would see Lloyd again.

[@KokoshiboTsugikuni-zj3si]

It’s the fact it’s the sentence “protect the ones that can’t protect themselves” that made him remeber who he is is GREAT

[@saphiregough1480]

This phrase and "stand up to those who are cruel and unjust," have got to be my favourite in the whole series. I was so excited when I heard them both in the Legacy short: Golden Legend.

[@lorddaraken7568]

My biggest critiques are the filler-ish episodes, and the 11 minute runtime. Other than that, it was a kinda nostalgic feeling seeing everything. Ninja fighting serpentine, Wu not telling the Ninja something, more lore, and the ninja spending time in a new Realm!!! Aspheera and Vex were a bit 1 dimensional... (Like we don't have a whole list of those villains 💀)

[@CuteBlueCherri]

Season 11 is actually one of my favorites and no one else understands 😭😭

[@sapphire1187]

I like how the vehicles are all so unique

[@XaviHaunts]

Uh oh I smell an angry mob of people approaching 0_0

[@cosmic_ghostbruh]

Here before people get angry

[@nicolas._.2294]

​@@cosmic_ghostbruhI got here to late, the haters are alr here

[@Turbo_Marto_Lol]

Immense respect buddy. I have always thought that this season is the best Ninjago season ever. It has been my #1 since the moment it was released I remember being hyped up for every episode. I was never so hyped for new episodes in my life. I was waking up at 4 or 5am just to see the episodes because that's when they premiered Over time I noticed a lot of people hating this season which I never understood why. For that recently I decided to rewatch this season to see if I was wrong and if this season is actually as bad as they say it is. I did and well... No? I haven't changed my mind a single bit. I still think this is Ninjago's best season up to date ✨

[@NixityNullt]

I saw the "zane is the bad guy" twist coming a mile away but i was still surprised by it because I didn't expect them to follow through with it since it wasn't 100% kid-friendly. The first half of the season was boring asf until the last part but aspheera is a baddie so its worth it.

[@Ewan_is_awesome]

I love S11!! Not just because I got back into LEGO mainly due to this season. - I love it tho. Just behind season 4 as my fave season (not including DR) - the fight where they take it in turns to use the scroll is 100% my fave season. I love the collectible FS ninja!! Edit: spelling mistakes lol

[@juremijacevic4109]

This was my favorite season now is 3rd place

[@snookerdooker471]

I think how they nerfed nya to need a water source to use her powers is a good thing since it makes nya not so overpowered same thing with other characters who got a similar nerf it makes them more like they cant just make something out of nothing this logic doesn't apply to everything but its a nice thing.

[@Sabina.rituper]

this is my fav seson

[@OfficialEdwardTheWiseEngine]

We do have a formling character in Dragons Rising, that character being Fritz

[@nicolas._.2294]

I agree it's truly overheated I think it was an ok season

[@LeFrancht75]

All Ninjago season can either be Bad, or good. No In-between. For this one however, its one of the few instances where you would say "Its not bad, but not good either."

[@edgyboi728]

..i always find it cursed that one of the hypnobrai that captures kai, cole & zane in the sewers makes the screech used for fnaf 3 & 4's screams XD

[@faizfirman8895]

This is my favourite season, Aspheera the villain, Vex , Zane , the timeline with the never real., and the song oh my god!!!

[@PrinceCoolD]

I still remeber when wu's staff was a bamboo

[@LivelaughlovelakeXD]

I agree This a fantastic season Dont know Why They Hate it ❤

[@backtrackmad8806]

Doesn’t take itself seriously, too much comedy, bad animation, too much filler, aspherra is a bad villain, ice chapter is just mad, snakes again, another villain mad at wu, Zane being the ice emperor was good tho, bad anime episodes, Pixal beats the cursed realm

[@LivelaughlovelakeXD]

@@backtrackmad8806 its not bad animation

[@backtrackmad8806]

@@LivelaughlovelakeXD yes it is look how they handled the water this season

[@thateye49]

​@backtrackmad8806 1.Preeminent was so easy to defeat this time because she had no ghost on her, it was confirmed by Morro that the souls from her feeds her _😶_ So annoying when people say that something is poor writed when it's just them being poor on seeing or hearing these details. _0_O_ Also, the animation was good, Aspheera was just an evil hypocrite who works as a villain. And honestly, season 11 feels like an old season for me, like it's 2015-2016 season, just me? Ok..

[@backtrackmad8806]

@@thateye49 don’t think that justifies pixal defeating one of the sixteen realm

[@spohg2887]

I cant believe people slandered my ice favourite. Fire part is decent. The ice part is legitimately my favourite half of a season

[@Cats4eva25]

I AGREE I LOVE THIS SEASON

[@ToasterOven.]

I think the season was solid but nya learning to control ice kinda made zane's power not as special but overall the season is mostly good

[@Pangy-23fx]

You do know that most characters can use ice to like skylor Chen WITH the staff. I think there is more I will tell you of there's more, but anyway, most people who have elemental power aren't really special because they can duplicate their powers for themselves Also, aspheera WITH her staff can take powers not copy but their the same thing to me

[@ToasterOven.]

@@Pangy-23fx i mean yeah but nya is a main character so its a bit different

[@Pangy-23fx]

@@ToasterOven. villansor anti heros copied most if not all main characters powers also jay can use wind like nya can use ice since it's close to their own element they can kind of control it

[@ThomasZimmerman-pw3yq]

im glqd someone els also likes this season because it is one of my favourites

[@GreenNinj4]

I like the ice chapter a lot. The fire chapter felt too childish for me at some points since unfortunetly Ninjago is still a kids show, but the ice chapter was nearly perfect. My only complaint is that Lloyd got too much focus although it was Kais season and imo he definetely needed it more. Lloyds solo mission was well done, but I always thought it should have been Kai or at least one of the OGs to defeat the Ice Emperor. I would rewrite it so that Akita and the former emeperor got frozen and then Lloyd would fight both the Ice Emperor and Vex. He would try to get through to Zane but Vex would try to counter it. Lloyd would be frozen as well, but his last words would make Zane slowly remember his past. Then the other ninja enter the thrown room and a new fight between them and Vex and Zane would start, but Vex would call the remaining soldiers to join the fight. The others would also try to make Zane remember, each of them sharing something personal from the past so everyone has their little scene. Vex would still try to talk against it but because of his conflicting thoughts and the scrolls corruption, Zane would become mad and unleashes an enormous ice beam, but Kai counters it with a fire beam. Nearly before being overpowered by Zane, Kai would say something that makes him remember that he is built to protect and Zane would regain his memory. His beam weakens and Kai uses his to knock the scroll out of his hand. The rest would go like the show, Zane freezes Vex and frees the neverealm. It wouldnt have to be exactly like this, but if it just was Kai defeating him, the ice chapter would be Top 10 to me for sure.

[@camillapante804]

If im being honest , Aspheera is my favourite villain ...

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

I honestly think that Boreal is just Zane's elemental dragon zombified ala Game of Thrones.

[@Luc84]

I really wanted to see Kai vs the ice emperor..😢

[@ramisalam2181]

When people rate Secrets of Forbidden Spinjitzu, they usually rate both parts. If the Fire and Ice Chapters were separated, the Ice Chapter would be an S tier season

[@thateye49]

TOTALLY AGREE BRO! THANK YOU!!!

[@MrScheischington]

This was my very first season that i watched and i feel its the reason that i really got into Ninjago

[@Random-oj1hw]

13:07 Mate,40 years in the never relm passed in like 3 weaks in ninjago. I can ashure you:akita and her brother are long dead by now😅

[@eemelikorteniemi3966]

No, if you look at how long the ninja were in the never realm and how much passed in ninjago, the passage of time seems about the same. It just is that the silly reason is that Aspheera sent Zane years in the past for some reason. It is a silly explanation, but it is the only one that works

[@EchoGamez.]

I think Akita is dead... This is due to the fact that many decades already passed in the neverealm

[@lordnoasupershow6778]

Morphing kitsune-girls,that gives me Ahri vibes

[@OliverEX1424]

What I don’t get is Kai is supposed to be the Main ninja for the Ice chapter, but for some reason he doesn’t fight Zane, Lloyd does

[@macwecek]

My biggest problem with the seazon is Nya being a complete bitch do Jay (her newly baked fiance!!), as well as Akita's romantic plot with Lloyd being completly ditched afterwards (though that's not the season's fault), I quite like it overall, 11th's low rating in my ranking is just due to most seasons being better, but then again, there isn't a season I particularly don't like in all the 15 seasons of the show, which is a good run. Dragon's Rising is a different beast though, I clicked off after 3,5 episodes due to it being pure disrespect for Ninjago's amazing legacy...

[@sahasranandam5483]

Why the frick do people hate this season. Now that is a universal question.

[@pulverizator293]

Because it is a bad season

[@sahasranandam5483]

@@pulverizator293 All the seasons are epic!! There is no bad season!! Especially this one!

[@pulverizator293]

@@sahasranandam5483 it haves epic moments and good ideas, and I really like this season, but overall is one of the worst seasons and there is nothing wrong with saying that because is the truth

[@sahasranandam5483]

@@pulverizator293 Sorry just got really touchy.

[@stefansharkov7500]

The biggest problem with this season is the pacing; there are countless clusters of episodes in this season that are such a slog to watch through. The fluidity of the main plot in both chapters feels stiff. I can pass over other glaring points such as Asphira being a one dimensional antagonist, and I am personally a big fan of the animation changes. But this season's pacing is abysmal, and although all of your positive points are extremely valid, I can't bear to sit through it again.

[@ebon6635]

I dont think akita is coming back seeing how fast time moves in the never realm

[@thetheorizermoore7476]

What I would have wanted was a war between purovipers and blizzard samurai

[@BvelociraptorProductions]

It's a funny coincidence that the two longest seasons are also the two most controversial.

[@Nightscaede]

I love this season because it shows how powerful Zane can be (also asphera is funny) The concept of Zane being a villain is one of the best ideas in the show

[@Epikyoutubeviewer2097]

11:36 omg! I didn't realise that was the original ruler!

[@GodisGudd]

My only problem was how rushed the ending felt, and I’m definitely not a fan of the 11 minute episodes lengths

[@eric11]

I personally didn't like the first part of the season but i loved the second part but i mainly agree that it is overhated

[@the_real_krizzy]

Guys, I don't think you realize how seriously under-rated this season is. All the time, people only focus on the lows of this season, rather than also acknowledging its highs. If im being honest, this season may very well be the funniest season of Ninjago. The Fire Chapter, although it lacked in execution, made up for it with awesome, fluid animation and funny dialouge. And the Ice Chapter, although it may have felt dry, made up for it with an amazing storyline. Sure, it wasn't the best season, but it defintely deserves more credit then its given

[@SanicAdventure]

This season was always weird to me, it was in 2 parts which is the biggest problem. I hated Part 1, I thought it was terrible and hated It, TERRIBLE HALF SEASON. On the contrary S11 P2 was Incredible🤩 and I think it is such an incredible half season. So having a season which I hated 1 half and loved the other was always weird and as a whole I have no idea what to think of it.

[@mikimerdzanoski4520]

The Zane plot twist was very predictable for those who watched Yu-GI-Oh GX

[@aura_yay]

The fire part is kinda lame, but I gotta agree the ice part is peak

[@eianloh8022]

Not peak, but truly just plain fun. Nice animation, vex is the best wildbrain era villian, aspheera probably close second, and the team re-building is soooo much better than crystallized. I am also glad that the time skip was retconned.

[@macphilsamson318]

Apart from the villain, it was a W season.

[@superslago2028]

my issue with this season is the fact that they arent consistant with a lot of things. the emphasis of there being no way back wouldve been a better storyline to have after the ninja find out the travelers tea doesnt work and have one team after zan and one team finding a new way home, but then the result was, "oh just add a random berry i put in my bag and problem solved." also i feel like they shouldve made it two different seasons that relate instead of two parts in one season that have almost nothing relating other than cause and effect. if they had more going into aspheera maybe banishing wu and trying to take over ninjago and having the ninja stopping her, then realizing in the last episode that wu is alive and have wu be the one to save instead of zane (unlike literally every other season of ninjago). i could add a few more points but this is probably all the main stuff that needs to be covered

[@munaaljabri6923]

i really liked this season and was confused how everyone hated it. the only thing i dont like is how like displayed jay's character. he was portrayed as this annoying and in the way character that keeps getting himself into trouble, slowing the others down. i love jay's character but they ruined it in season 11. im glad they fixed it though. and i loved both the fire and ice chapter and how (very slight spoiler) zane had trauma from the events of the ice emperor. overall it was a great season. a lot of changes but still an interesting plot.

[@KnightFall05]

The problem with 11 min Episodes is that they can be used as Filler

[@ThatOneChaoticDragonQueen]

I've honestly always loved this season

[@tornadomash00]

the only reason i really do like this season is because it is pretty fun but because my favorite character, lloyd, actually seemed to mellow out after the Oni trilogy which really excited me

[@yamunasusan9313]

It was okay but animation is LIT👍👍👍👍

[@erickck240]

Yeah I really like season 11 i don’t know why it gets so much hate

[@ZeroJump]

There is a canon plot about Ice Emperor....just in a book

[@kaplooeygames8515]

Aspheera is entertaining

[@timebomb42]

Currently in the middle of re-watching it and my overall opinion, (this is my fourth time watching the season in total) is that a perfectly represents the entire wildbrain era of Ninjago, it has some really great moments, fantastic fight scenes, and fantastic visuals. It also has pacing issues, poor dialogue at times and can be a bit sloppy with its character writing. That being said it is a country mile season.

[@ReeGrr37]

S11 is one of those season that aged better than some others. Like for what s10 and crystallized were, despite most of us unanimously disliking crystalized, it’s one of those types of seasons. But seasons that aged poorly were definitely like Seabound unfortunately and MOTM (massive mixed review on that one)

[@LukeNinjago]

This is what happens when you watch Ninjago on the surface level

[@janetdemirdelen]

Dat is my favourite season

[@lucyanderson9064]

I never hated it. I don't hate any of the seasons.

[@thesupremeleader3172]

Do you plan to make a crystalized video ? I personnaly love the season

[@shajonali6115]

An oni can never die so Omega can be in dragon rising

[@TrashTrackers]

Part of the reason it is so hated is because most of the story didn't go anywhere after. It felt out of place and not part of the big picture

[@dvqjacks7735]

Same goes for Crystalized

[@winiaryyyy]

To be honest, I really enjoyed Season 11 - maybe there wasn't too much "fire" in Fire Chapter but damn, it was such an enjoyable season.

[@Stickman_Productions]

The only thing I don't like about season 11 is pacing. It has horrible pacing. Maybe that's because of the new 11 minute episodes and the filler but it feels rushed, especially at the end. I didn't really care much for Fire Chapter. It was okay. The Ice Chapter was my favorite because the concept was great.