Ninjutsu against Muay Thai full clinch, Yossi Sheriff, AKBAN

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@martialarts4life393
@martialarts4life393 11 жыл бұрын
Nice video and thorough explanation of the techniques. I've sparred with conditioned muay thai fighters and they can mix things up quickly. I've been fortunate to train with resisting partners for many years, so joint locks, throws and BJJ comes naturally. What I've seen in your videos is about the best demonstrations of ninjitsu out there. I'm here in Sacramento, CA. and I wish there were instructors that teach ninjitsu with the kind of training you give to your students. Nice job.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
1. Buy a big hat 2. Google: "AKBAN 24 hour non stop Randori" 3. Eat hat BON APPETIT and a Happy New Year
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Keyboard fighting is a fast developing sport
@shaman98388
@shaman98388 10 жыл бұрын
Must try with Real Muay Thai Fighter. With respect.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
My teacher's teacher is Doron Navon Shihan. Before 1988 everybody in Bujinkan sparred. Hatsumi's book about Togakure ryu has many images of his students then sparring with boxing gloves etc.
@alekpiter555
@alekpiter555 7 жыл бұрын
I never saw a proper thai clinch lock here. Try it on someone who really knows Muay Thai!
@KeikoFXDesigns
@KeikoFXDesigns 6 жыл бұрын
Yup the Muay Thai fighter clinches he has his kneez in his gut.
@buledot834
@buledot834 5 жыл бұрын
Muaythai probably fight like this but don’t forget about knee .it very dangerous if you let it . Anyway I very love you channel . Thankyou
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@MtuckerGoBlue
@MtuckerGoBlue 11 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few videos from this instructor. He is very good. He is incorporating wrestling into his Ninjitsu techniques. Not pure. But intended to be effective. More instructors should follow his lead. We all have a great deal to learn from one another. I commend him.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, this is a Muai Thai move. It has been done countless time in MT against MT fighters. The Ninjutsu addition here are the throws, which are illegal in MT.
@sunnibird
@sunnibird 7 жыл бұрын
Seems to work well on compliant training partners who don't know how to do the muay thai technique properly O_o
@batistabomb-
@batistabomb- 11 жыл бұрын
All people here talking about that this grappling moves agains MT clinch would be like a suicide, but Buakaw Por Pramuk uses a lot of grappling hooks in his fights. Could anyone tell that his fights aren't for real? Of course not. You just need to train harder to get into the technique. Just that. I can see a lot of useful counters in Ninjutsu against another martial arts, even in Karate, a martial art that I practice now. I'm interested in Ninjutsu teachings to provide best defense and offense to my Karate skills and to learn about weapons handling. Greetings from Brasil.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Yep I agree. The basic technique here, the opening of the clinch, is a MT technique originaly.
@RayWhiteMMA
@RayWhiteMMA 10 жыл бұрын
AKBAN Why yes it is. It is one of the opening I teach as well.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 10 жыл бұрын
Ray White Many guys who comment, have not been thought this simple opening, so they think it's Ninjutsu against Muai Thai, Of course it's not. Since many of us are experienced MT practitioners too, it's more a matter of learning and cross pollination. Uppercut, front hook and a knee - Ernesto Hoost in Akban
@BHIRO1
@BHIRO1 9 жыл бұрын
Great teaching; I really enjoy the explanation and application of each move. Well appreciated.
@TheFistFromTheBronx
@TheFistFromTheBronx 11 жыл бұрын
OSSU! Great Technique Sheriff! People commenting negatively should take more time to reflect. Much respect to Akban, however as a ninjutsu black belt and MMA competitor, I feel that these particular techniques displayed are particularly good for certain circumstances within a street situation or any situation involving a jacket. Sweaty arms and wild Muay Thai full plume control pulling and pushing with knees coming at you from under and over to the crown of your head, should be taken into consideration. The gi gives more options and traction to grip. If there are no jackets worn in this situation, I feel the best defense is the simplest. Simply turn your waist with your shoulder pressing into your opponents elbow or forearm while raising your arm parallel to opponents shoulder or neck (Attack is suggested right away) will make the assailant's wrist lose grip. Quickly in one motion apply your desired follow up attack (crossed arm corid artery strike, chi no kata fudoken uppercut, upward chin push, ura gyaku, hon gyaku, musha dori, ganseki nagi, teep kick, overlapping elbow strike, counter muay thai clinch, sutemi waza, etc) take your pick, henka is limitless at that point. This is both a Thai and Ninpo technique fused by turning, arm raising and attacking at the same time.
@jamesbell7061
@jamesbell7061 10 жыл бұрын
"Why is it every time somone representing a traditional martial art posts a video showing how to combat mma or (muy thai) another traditional based art on here they find them selves engaged in a full scale verbal dingdong in my opinion as a practioner of jujutsu and ninjutsu for 30 years i find it perthetic peeps need to respect a difference of opinion once in a while
@Clown7916
@Clown7916 10 жыл бұрын
What if they're teaching techniques that MMA and combat sport athletes can clearly see will not work against them? Wouldn't it be a good thing that combat athletes are pointing out your flaws, so you can improve upon them? But no - I guess you'd rather protect your fragile ego.
@siddislikesgoogle
@siddislikesgoogle 8 жыл бұрын
How would you deal with the incoming barrage of knees though, because I seem to remember thats the immediate follow up of a clinch in MT
@jsagers2008
@jsagers2008 8 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on who is clinching you. At least you have some options with this technique. I gonna try this at my BJJ class tonight.
@GokuInfintysaiyan
@GokuInfintysaiyan 7 жыл бұрын
Sydney Cut the knee (like cutting a kick) or sink down and scoop it if you can. If not, take the one knee on the muscles of your abs by turning then pick the ankle as the leg is retracting
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 4 жыл бұрын
Position (escape the clinch) before submission (hit, throw or break)
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
My instructor, Yossi, always says he learned his English from Arnold Schwarzenegger :)
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We are constantly updating our wiki and these sparring series. You can subscribe to this channel and follow our effort. Like they say on my local bagel factory: "it's coming".
@martialartsfan7269
@martialartsfan7269 10 жыл бұрын
These guys never practiced any of these techniques against anyone who uses these techniques in full contact fighting or who have at least 1 year wrestling training. This will not work against a trained Muay Thai fighter, MMA fighter, grappler, wrestler, etc. I don't think they guys even spar. But, perhaps against a novice, this technique may work simply as an unexpected move
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 10 жыл бұрын
So many wrong presumptions about our practice
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 10 жыл бұрын
***** here's a link The roundhouse kick (mawashi) - Ernesto Hoost in Akban in it is Ernesto Hoost, Mr. perfect, teaching a seminar in AKBAN. maybe this can serve as a clue that we are know our MT. Respectfully
@drzigglewiggles6011
@drzigglewiggles6011 10 жыл бұрын
I know a few trained Muay thai fighters. They always get me in this clinch. Will be good to try something rather than just getting thrown. Respect.
@RayWhiteMMA
@RayWhiteMMA 10 жыл бұрын
AKBAN Nice video, as a Muay Thai instructor and competitor it is refreshing to see positions analysed by other perspectives. Your entry and clinch loosening is similar to some Thai techniques, and your applications of throws and upper body manipulations are worth exploring. Thanks for sharing! (for those who doubt another arts effectiveness, nobody thought Judo was good vs wrestling, MT or MMA until Rhonda Rousey came along.)
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 10 жыл бұрын
Ray White Thanks. You are one of the only guys commenting who actually show some sense. Many of us are experienced MT practitioners too and we check our techniques with the top instructors in the world The roundhouse kick (mawashi) - Ernesto Hoost in Akban
@burn450
@burn450 8 жыл бұрын
or you could learn how to clinch from people who do it properly...that way you wont let go of the arm to jab the gut and get elbowed in the face for your trouble :)
@Aeglaeca.A
@Aeglaeca.A 10 жыл бұрын
very nice knowlegde, i did grow up with muay thai. and we got similiar ways to free from full clinch but there are to many steps.. Primitive + functional should be the way and should explain what i mean.
@ashleysmith91
@ashleysmith91 8 жыл бұрын
This would work really well against an opponent standing still and not striking back. All martial arts have effective and ineffective techniques. But there is a massive difference to light sparring in a dojo and a full contact fight. Everything changes when stress, fatigue and pain is introduced to the body.
@intellectualninjamonkey2496
@intellectualninjamonkey2496 7 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. These are the kind of comments that come from people who have competed...The rest of the people just believe whatever is presented to them in a youtube video and say "it is not the art, it is the artist", "this is too dangerous for competiton" and the usual excuses.
@intellectualninjamonkey2496
@intellectualninjamonkey2496 7 жыл бұрын
I meant that I agree 100% with Ashley Smith....indeed sparring and competition against someone who does not know you neither cares about you, are worlds apart. True Wing Chun, you said that "the masterclass level combat fighters get past so called impossible spots". Who is a masterclass level fighter if not the very same people that fight professionaly for a living? I mean, if a technique is effective, it will present it self in some form of competition.
@intellectualninjamonkey2496
@intellectualninjamonkey2496 7 жыл бұрын
Video or did not happen.What is the name of the supposed experienced fighter and where is his online record? If you are so deadly why you are not in the ufc getting payed the millions of McGregor? By the way, kicking knee caps DO NOT RESULT in broken knees. professional ufc fighters had used knee cap kicks against their opponents and unlike what many people see in the movies, no knees were broken and actually were less effective than the usual muay thai low kicks. Unless of course, they did not know the "deadly" version of kicking kness because they are just "tv fighers" (irony)...Claims like your's are contantly done on youtube...However, there is never a real fight video or even a light sparring match to prove such astoninshing abilities. And the comment "Ufc is basic full contact sparring" shows you have never competed. If you did , you would know that NOTHING is like competing against a complete stranger that is trained and has every motive to kick your ass in front of an audience.
@normandeyroxas8909
@normandeyroxas8909 11 жыл бұрын
Great art of discipline. Nice video.
@eurotrash2011
@eurotrash2011 10 жыл бұрын
Your opponent is not using an effective thai clinch. 1) elbows should be higher up - nearer your collar bone. 2) his hands should be higher up the back of your head. 3) posture is terrible- he should be upright, pushing his chest forward. 4) his head should not be buried into your shoulder like that!!! The whole point of the full clinch is not to allow your opponent to create chest to chest
@eurotrash2011
@eurotrash2011 10 жыл бұрын
Chest to chest distance. So he is forced to lower his posture if he is to do so. Secondly- if you create that much distance as you did, you will get kneed. That is why the clinch exists, to control your opponent and strike when you can. It is not to play judo. There is a time and place for shoulder throws and hip throws in the thai clinch- the full clinch is not the time. It's too dangerous, your only option, if any is to try and escape, normally though full clinch= game over.
@eurotrash2011
@eurotrash2011 9 жыл бұрын
should have been clearer- I meant to raise your elbows to the same level as your collar bone hahaha. I should have explained it more clearly. Look at real Thais clinching at top level, looks nothing like this clinch. And these moves are pure fantasy
@eurotrash2011
@eurotrash2011 9 жыл бұрын
These moves are tehcnically good judo throws, but the decision making and application is totally unrealistic.... Otherwise you would see these moves in Muay Thai and mma all the time...
@eurotrash2011
@eurotrash2011 9 жыл бұрын
I do know how to clinch- I was explaining the basic posture. To keep it brief what you are in the video is not a Thai clinch- it's not upright enough- there is too kich chest to chest distance
@eurotrash2011
@eurotrash2011 9 жыл бұрын
Anyway- just look at real Thais clinching- the difference between this and that becomes very obvious.
@chrispiggott8386
@chrispiggott8386 8 жыл бұрын
any technique will work if your uke just stands there. make it dynamic and resistance. true resistance and try this.
@baburix1
@baburix1 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Piggott that's true. But without gloves it is easier to move.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Since we all have been and still do train in Muai Thai, you can be sure we are aware of the devastating techniques MT has inside the clinch. Search youtube for "Hoost in AKBAN" ...
@MilitiauScom
@MilitiauScom 8 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, great application of these throws from this position.
@wanderingeye1100
@wanderingeye1100 10 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Skipp yeah i get that but Im a thaiboxer, if your man knows clinch well you are fucked, I say this as I have studied AGAINST my own style, reverse uppercut lead hook would smash them on entry, but once its on you gtta push the chin round or hyperextend the back .... or you are really fucked 
@xXxsightsxXx
@xXxsightsxXx 9 жыл бұрын
Well let's be fair guys as a MMA practitioner myself, I believe all techniques have a place in the arsenal, granted being specific movement, spacing, timing, and advantageous circumstances there's an unlimited number of variations and possibilities any technique could happen, and the most obvious would be 2guys really fighting for that dominant clinch position, you'd have to deal with breaking their foundation before considering anything else, but I believe every technique is just another option, and if practiced well any one can do it, also everyone will do it slightly altered to their own style as well. So it's really user based just an option
@myellis100
@myellis100 9 жыл бұрын
xXxsightsxXx Good explanation my friend! Ous!
@charlesalexander2676
@charlesalexander2676 8 жыл бұрын
great explanation. I have been training for seven years in martial arts and I deeply respect every fighter and their choice of style. I have always believed that there is no superior style only superior technique. if you train for two days while another trains for five that person will be better prepared for a fight. my respect to you.
@CeasareBorgiaSuX
@CeasareBorgiaSuX 8 жыл бұрын
+xXxsightsxXx Nice, till that head flip does not work and he just grabs on and now he has your back.... the guy forgot to mention when clinched you are taking elbows and especially head butts! You would be happy to get a knee because most people fail at it and the guy is on one leg and you will probably fall over together! I think these multi sequence moves depend on the guy holding still....you better stun him real good first if you want to use that and those body shots are not doing much from there.
@timo235711
@timo235711 8 жыл бұрын
Do not copy the Tai Otoshi of this guy. His toes are pointing wrong. Always point your toes INWARD when executing a Tai Otoshi. I learned it the hard way, after two ACL reconstructions and 3 years I am slowly back to normal training.
@LOFIGSD
@LOFIGSD 12 жыл бұрын
Good Video Yossi, couple of small points, as I practice Muay Thai. And done many years of traditional MA and Ninjutsu in the past. You are showing ways of trying to transition to a Ninjutsu take down or throw, which is good, (use what you know). But I would comment that deliberately creating a Gap is fatal against a Thai Fighter, they will knee you in half, dont play their game, Suggest getting underhooks in,stay tight and bundling to the floor, but do not give a Nak Muay any space.
@Youcantseeme326
@Youcantseeme326 7 жыл бұрын
Please show this against a real Muay Thai clinch. Your clinch is wrong, 100% wrong! There's no variation on your clinch, it's purely not a Muay Thai clinch.
@joseotisuychan4921
@joseotisuychan4921 3 жыл бұрын
I love this ❤️ style practical and application for real life.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thanks!
@CeasareBorgiaSuX
@CeasareBorgiaSuX 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone in this thread should go back and watch the Anderson Silvia Rich Franklin fight .Train against those moves Silvia is using and then you will have a better clinch defense using this move! People who know the clinch will move like this!
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
We are glad that these videos are useful. Thanks!
@michaelmottonen3044
@michaelmottonen3044 10 жыл бұрын
Good for the type of clinch you are showing, but a Thai boxer will pinch his elbows together and pull you into his chest. This looks more like something a wrestler might do.
@thehopoman
@thehopoman 11 жыл бұрын
good for you bro, i hope we can see some of your combats or sparring sessions with a good MT fighter..there are a lot of people who claim they do MT but actually are phonies, i've trained in thailand and the US...thai clinch isnt beaten with ease..not at least with these techniques, the conditioning of the abs is essential for a thai fighter, we can take a punch, but rest assure you'll be punished before delivering the second one..i suggest you study MT for a while, probably will learn something
@slarz1108
@slarz1108 8 жыл бұрын
I don't get this.... what about the opponent's knee in your balls four or five times before you are able to get to the position to throw him.....??
@as_the_rush_comes4739
@as_the_rush_comes4739 11 жыл бұрын
great video,I have the following question tho:in judo I am not allowed to to uppercut the side of the body from the half clinch,would you be so kind to suggest another effective way to get out of the "his-elbow-on-my-chest-is-preventing-me-from-doing-techniques" situation?besides maybe poking my opponent with a thumb:o Thank you in advance
@fritzkreisler2330
@fritzkreisler2330 11 жыл бұрын
lol, it's youtube and people are here for all sorts of reasons. I find it rather sad that most threads I find interest in are half full of people not interested in learning but would rather slander others and get reactions.
@msh1348
@msh1348 11 жыл бұрын
I learned something from it. I dont know what else everybody else is talking about. Too much hate.
@JohnSmith-fg8js
@JohnSmith-fg8js 12 жыл бұрын
That's pretty speculative given that Ninjitsu is simply a composite of fighting techniques; which could include Thai boxing.
@MasterTheHam
@MasterTheHam 11 жыл бұрын
I practice Goshin Jitsu, and we share techniques with a Ninjitsu black belt from another school. I like alot of your techniques. I will show your clinch technique to my Sensei next course. Thank you for your well explained video. With respect, I wish you a nice day.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
suddenly, an intelligent response. the @thehopoman
@selfactualizer2099
@selfactualizer2099 8 жыл бұрын
do you really. really. think this would stop a muay thai fighter?
@sdave616
@sdave616 10 жыл бұрын
nothing always works. when the swords come out it never matters anyway.
@czzham
@czzham Жыл бұрын
Just wondering if I see technichal absorbtion from Krav Maga, Systema, and Silat in what you're doing? Thanks, great video's.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good words. I did not learn any of these martial arts, but still there might be some similarities or Convergent evolution.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
We are proud to be based in Bujinkan Thanks
@judontknow69
@judontknow69 12 жыл бұрын
Thank God for people of reasoning. you sir are part of the small amount of people who are realist when it comes to fighting.
@Tetrodioxide
@Tetrodioxide 11 жыл бұрын
I have one quick question: Will these techniques work on Jew and Gentile alike?
@catmandu8813
@catmandu8813 5 жыл бұрын
I love all these videos. Please, all you keyboard commando MMA junkies need to lay off. I am not saying MMA isn't formidable because it's great. However for those of us who prefer traditional styles and movements, there needs to be a certain level of respect demonstrated amongst all parties. Thank you for the post. I love the techniques.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, Kat Mandu.
@Karatekasgr
@Karatekasgr 12 жыл бұрын
Put an MMA Fighter in a jungle with a ninjutsu or escrima or silat master
@raulbravo5144
@raulbravo5144 11 жыл бұрын
This is called practice. First practice everything then you apply.
@rapidgaming4703
@rapidgaming4703 8 жыл бұрын
Ninjitsu would not work against muay thai.
@ryanleexuanhao
@ryanleexuanhao 10 жыл бұрын
these techinques are brilllant but a lot wont work against a thai clinch. When i go into a clinch, number 1 would be getting my forearms in his arm to control him so i dont get elbowed. @ 3:43 is a textbook example of what thai fighters look for in a clinch. trust me, i learnt it the hard way
@martialartsfan7269
@martialartsfan7269 10 жыл бұрын
These guys never practiced any of these techniques against anyone who uses these techniques in full contact fighting or who have at least 1 year wrestling training. This will not work against a trained Muay Thai fighter, MMA fighter, grappler, wrestler, etc. I don't think they guys even spar. But, perhaps against a novice, this technique may work simply as an unexpected move.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 10 жыл бұрын
MartialArtsFan72 stupidity and lack of research Muai Thai timing techniques for Ninjutsu - Ernesto Hoost in Akban since we have been to Thailand and learned from the best MT teachers on this planet, we find your disrespect problematic. BTW, the opening move of releasing the clinch is standard high level MT.
@Yeame143
@Yeame143 9 жыл бұрын
that wasn't a Thai clinch that looks like a day 1 learning to clinch. That's not even a beginner clinch escape. First you have to get your hips in close an stand as straight up as possible arms blocking knees until your hips are, while your doing this you straighten your neck while trapping the arms, clap grip on forearm in crux of the elbows to prevent elbows. After that you have lots of options "swim" I'm for your own clinch, outside elbow push, throw an elbow coming over then down at a 45 degree. Please remake this video with a MT fighter so we can see it done properly. I'm not saying it isn't a good tech but in this video you can't tell.
@markotikvic
@markotikvic 7 жыл бұрын
Dude... Please don't introduce logic, common sense or real experience in this comment section. The fuck is wrong with you? People are trying to live out their fantasies, not to learn how to defend themselves. What do you mean "this is what thai fighters look for in a clinch"? Everybody knows that when you get in a clinch you just stand there and lightly hold your opponent so he doesn't fall down. It's not like I'm gonna look for an opening to connect my elbow with your jaw line, or try to knee the fuck out of your rib cage or chin... or legs... or liver... or knock your air out... Please, leave real life knowledge out of this. Thank you.
@leagreenall5972
@leagreenall5972 10 жыл бұрын
A Muay Thai clinch is not that far apart. It is more upright and bodies are close together... and it is no way as easy to get inside the clinch as you think. Plus you didnt state the third option a Thai fighter wants to do - elbow... if you drop your guard; you are elbowed. Plus if you slacken YOUR grip on the Thai fighter; you will get thrown around like a rag doll... its bread and butter for a Thai Fighter.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 10 жыл бұрын
The technique shown here is a MT technique. You are just not familiar with it. AKBAN are experienced Muai Thay practitioners too. Do your homework Uppercut, front hook and a knee - Ernesto Hoost in Akban
@leagreenall5972
@leagreenall5972 10 жыл бұрын
Actually friend, I was a professional Muay Thai fighter for many years and a Muay Thai trainer for over 20 and counting. I suggest you just do a basic youtube search on MT fights and see how many Thais clinch with their bodies so far apart... they don't, they would get straightkneed or their head dragged down. What I stated stands... just go back and look at your video when the 2 people engage, their immediate inclination is to put their head down.. NO MT fighter of worth EVER does that... I suggest YOU do your homework or ask for your money back from the person who taught you those obvious false techniques!
@sevensixtwomm
@sevensixtwomm 10 жыл бұрын
Lea Greenall Not to mention they are clinching the neck, and not the head.
@rationale01
@rationale01 10 жыл бұрын
AKBAN Sorry, your Muay Thai Sucks then. As a Muay Thai coach and can see clearly you do not know anything about the clinch and will get destroyed if you try any of these techniques as you demonstrated.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 10 жыл бұрын
rationale01 Ygal, AKBAN channel moderator here. Respectfully, most of us have been doing MT many years, with top instructors. The opening of the clinch in this video is not Ninjutsu, it is a Muai Thai technique. Here's a video from a seminar we did with Ernesto Hoost, AKA, Mr. Perfect. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2OTi2ODep6FoqM You, Sir, should talk with more respect.
@bilbobaggins5815
@bilbobaggins5815 7 жыл бұрын
especially if you were wearing that hakama....and they would be fighting back.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 7 жыл бұрын
Hakama is good
@WhiteWolf-ui9wg
@WhiteWolf-ui9wg 10 жыл бұрын
Nice technics...just too complicated and too many steps, at least for me... I always thought that...less is better.
@mysty0
@mysty0 5 жыл бұрын
Well then, just stay stuck in the Clinch lmao
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 5 жыл бұрын
🙂
@SenseiEli
@SenseiEli 10 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video! Thank you!
@draganvicic6287
@draganvicic6287 Жыл бұрын
odlican,odlican trener,,,,,,strpljivo objasnjava...pravi majstor
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@edenadam872
@edenadam872 9 жыл бұрын
too stupid self defense>> too traditional >> ineffective>> very slow >>
@SoLalbUs
@SoLalbUs 8 жыл бұрын
+Eden Adam It's done slow so that you can visually perceive and understand the technical process that's taking place here. In real application he'd have you on the floor before you would get to blink. And I've seen such guys perform it in full speed during our Krav Maga sessions in the army. Also some things you cannot do full speed during training or demonstration because the speed gives those things the momentum that causes the actual injuries. Therefore unless you really execute the move to inflict real harm you'll do it at a slower pace or avoid performing it fully - just like he did with the fireman throw in another video - because a complete execution can leave the thrown person with some physical injuries some of which can be pretty bad even while landing on a mat.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
This is just the tutorial.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
don't worry, be happy ;)
@kudoista
@kudoista 3 жыл бұрын
Some interesting ideas. I love the combination of judo with MuayThai. Judo offers some options outside the rules of Muay Thai that people typically may not expect so it makes the clinch game much deeper and complete.I will explore some of these with my students.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 3 жыл бұрын
Practice safely and keep on training
@Mustard_Dispenser
@Mustard_Dispenser 2 жыл бұрын
You hit it on the mark!
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@joebarbosa1942
@joebarbosa1942 3 жыл бұрын
Looks simple and effective
@TheFistFromTheBronx
@TheFistFromTheBronx 11 жыл бұрын
I loved his Ganseki nage attack! Awesome application!
@TheFistFromTheBronx
@TheFistFromTheBronx 11 жыл бұрын
I am confident Yossi Sheriff's technique was to reach out to his kyodai and others that were wondering how to escape this dread Muay Thai full plume clinch. Purist may disagree with me. That's fine! Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but application and is all that matters. Any given technique can and will work if given the right opportunity executed at the right moment. We must research everything we can in order to train effectively. But that's my philosophy. Anyway to all the neigh-sayers, these techniques displayed above work! Everything boils down to seconds in a real situation, what you do within the scheme of totality determines your survival. To all of you Sawadee kop and Gambatte!
@MKultradude
@MKultradude 12 жыл бұрын
Straight up man! I wish more bujinkan dojos had the same courage to investigate techniques like this.
@vamtheanomaly
@vamtheanomaly 11 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of movies and "staged" fights where where someone gets the "thai clinch" on the other guy and begins a volley of knees. The guy being kneed blocks with what looks like both arms , almost as if hes letting the guy knee his palms. A good example if near the end of the first "Never Back Down" movie. Near the end of the last fight scene Jake blocks the knees in this fashion. Does that actually work?
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, Sir, two things: 1. You can search KZbin for "AKBAN gun seminar" to see that we live in a wider, very combat oriented perspective. 2. The "anti clinch" technique is actually borrowed from Muai Thai. It works in certain situations and in others it does not work. If the opponent knows the technique you are aiming too it will most certainly will make it very hard to execute the techniques. As is the case with many martial arts techniques.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
I am actually at that position. I am just a student. I am the moderator of the AKBAN KZbin channel. That means I can take the abuse from my peers, from my instructor, Yossi, and from commentaries. I don't think you did your homework concerning us so maybe just one thing - we spar each and every practice session. Many veterans in our school are just that, meaning that we have extensive competition experience in martial sports.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am the moderator of the AKBAN academy on KZbin. My teacher, Yossi Sheriff, the one who speaks at the video has been an avid Muai Thai student for many years. He always says that Muai Thai is the best MA he knows for striking. I re-watched the video again now, I found no derogatory remarks against Muai Thai - on the contrary, the opening technique that precedes every move has been a favorit Fairtex Muai Thai move from one of their camps.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
You can try searching Google for: "AKBAN Ninjutsu portal". You can then look for any ground / grappling / weapon techniques. We, in AKBAN, sincerely hope there are enough techniques documented to satisfy your curiosity. You can then google: "Ernesto Hoost in AKBAN" for a brief look at what thoroughness means.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Hmm, first - the opening technique is Muai Thai, not Ninjutsu. So better learn it. Here are some suggestions, google: "Ernesto Hoost AKBAN", "Renzo Gracie AKBAN", "De La Riva AKBAN", "Alan Moraes AKBAN". We have been doing BJJ and Muai Thai since 1979, Sir. Respectfully, looking at your profile I guess it's before you were born. Show respect
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
It is not possible to talk freely and explain the opening up of the clinch while engaging in a Mua Thai bout. The beginning technique is a Muai Thai one and it works even when the clinch is close by creating distance between the opponents. Of course, it is much harder to execute while being dragged around and kicked.
@TheLockon00
@TheLockon00 9 жыл бұрын
For the record, I saw a video where Anderson Silva gave part of a seminar and brought up a grappling counter to the clinch similar to the ones shown in this vid. He said something like, "And this one for my friends who are great grapplers."
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 9 жыл бұрын
Yep, The beginning release is from MT. A lot of guys get fired up for nothing here.
@CeasareBorgiaSuX
@CeasareBorgiaSuX 8 жыл бұрын
+Richard Harrow Everyone in this thread should go back and watch the Anderson Silvia Rich Franklin fight .Train against those moves or the move simply will not work!
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
ok, We will return the money you payed us. Sorry for not doing a tutorial with BUAKAW while having three muai thai fighters shooting us with a Bazooka, an RPG and an 85mm mortar. Next time we video an intricate technique we will try to make it more like WWII. Then, gomergilligan, you'll sign up
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
At last, a nak muay that understands that the clinch opening is standard. As for the rest of the techniques, we think they work ok in our sparring, many of us are MT partitioners. But of course, many of the technique we allow ourselves in sparring are not legal in an arena. Respect
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Sure, I just a moderator from India. When I see a proffesional comment I forward it to HQ, When I see a black belt in Ninjutsu who is also a @supernalbjj, my only goal is creating a lot of comments on this video while being polite.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
I am just the moderator of this channel so maybe I am out of my boundries, but you can search google images for "Renzo Gracie in AKBAN", "De la riva in AKBAN" "Ernesto Hoost in AKBAN" etc. and see that your disrespect dishonors BJJ.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
If this works or whether we have been trained realistically is a thing you can solve with a youtube search for "akban hoost". But your ill manners are a bigger problem then our fight credibility. Even a child in our dojo has more manners then you.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
I think that on a technical level there are many similarities between the methods you mentioned and Ninjutsu, A big difference is Ninjutsu, as a practicable system, not a myth, is a craft, these all are competitive sports.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
I am just the moderator of the AKBAn channel, @Irmasterlol, and doing this voluntarily. So you looked at Ernesto Hoost, Mr. Perfect, teaching in AKBAN, and decided that this is "scamming people out of their money"?
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
You think it's about knees and elbows, we think differently - if it's real it's about knives, bombs and guns. But one thing Sir, it may be that you think you are stronger but even a child in our dojo has more manners.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Fighting is not dueling. Real combat is not MMA. Explaining is not showing. Martial arts are not only self defense. More people get killed everyday because of sugary drinks then because of evil gangsters.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Yep, thanks. Why not actually. My instructor spent years doing MT and the solutions he learned influenced his Ninjutsu. The beginning technique of opening the clinch from below is borrowed, with full credits, from Muai Thai
@MonSter-zt5me
@MonSter-zt5me 8 жыл бұрын
you want to detroy muay thai clinch just use muay thai technique 1 better clinch 2 throw 3 sweep
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 8 жыл бұрын
+วัชรพงศ์ อัคคะประชา , exactly. The opening technique is MT, we then compete for a better side clinch and then throw. What most commenters fail to get, you did. This is a MT technique learned in Mejiro Gym camp.
@MonSter-zt5me
@MonSter-zt5me 8 жыл бұрын
Yes,opening technique is muay thai but thai dint setup for throw they setup for knee.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 8 жыл бұрын
+วัชรพงศ์ อัคคะประชา very expertly said. The reason we can opt for a throw is because a throw is a preferred traditional technique in AKBAN Ninjutsu. Kneeing the opponent is simpler and a devastating technique
@MonSter-zt5me
@MonSter-zt5me 8 жыл бұрын
AKBAN thai fighter start learn mma i saw they use similar technique like you did in video, i hope thai fighter go well in mma sport when i saw mma many fighter dont know how to deal with clinch move their head down and try to protech with thier hand is useless.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 8 жыл бұрын
+วัชรพงศ์ อัคคะประชา true
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Well two things, 1. I am just the humble AKBAN channel moderator, not an instructor. 2. Knife and weapon carrying are illegal in most countries, so are not a good choice as a self defense weapon
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Channel moderator here, thanks @MasterTheHam. You can check out our latest video by searching KZbin for "How to fight multiple attackers the AKBAN way". train safely, and keep on training!
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
1. This is not against Muay Thai, this is a technique against MT clinch 2. He did MT for many years 3. This is a tutorial of a MT release, the only thing my instructor added are the throws at the end.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
The technique to open the clinch is Muai Thai. The reason the clinch is loose is so that you can understand the technique. When we want to impress with our combat abilities we make other kinds of videos
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
You are right. If you look at MT fights, you'll see the correct posture, you described, deteriorating in no time into something with more space. It is taking advantage of this space that is described here
@gfum69
@gfum69 9 жыл бұрын
Akban, love the video, love the techniques demonstrated and even more so how you linked them together as "if this one fails go to this one, and so on...", but I would love to see a video done, showing how you would deal with the knee strikes that would no doubt start coming in, if you didn't get to the half clinch quick enough.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Nah, he is just trolling the comment stream trying to get reaction. We could not locate his question and instead of re-posting it, if it exists at all, he WRITES ALL CAPS SO CAN WE
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
There are two way of looking at Ninjutsu, as a myth and as a mundane system. We're the pragmatic guys. You can search google for: "AKBAN Ninjutsu portal". Anyway, Judo is great
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am the AKBAN KZbin channel moderator, My name is David. As you can guess I am from Israel and like most AKBAN guys I have been doing mainly Ninjutsu, but also MT and Judo
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
OK, let me revise that, let's assume the gorilla is the genius chess master and it's opponent is a rocket scientist. They are both competing against a zombie hord of Ninja pirates.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
This is not a show of combat ability but an explanation. If you understand the technique it's good. I do not think you actually googled "AKBAN academy". Maybe you could.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
Moderator here. All of AKBAN veterans are Muai Thai practitioners too. This is not a fight, this is a tutorial. Try these techniques before showing disrespect
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
Sir, we spar each and every session. You can take a look at our site to see how working against resisting opponents has influenced our perspective and fitness.
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 11 жыл бұрын
We apologize for the fact that this is just a tutorial and not a full scale war. Not only we'll return the money you paid, but we'll double it!!!
@AkbanOrg
@AkbanOrg 12 жыл бұрын
I did not explain myself correctly, sorry. The clinch here is loose so you can see inside for the tutorial. You are right, the clinch should be tight
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