Nintendo Creators Program (Day 1892 - 1/29/15)

[@NintendoCapriSun]

As many times as this has happened now, I'm almost not even worried about it. They backed down once before and based on the current hoopla, they'll (probably) do it again. Either way, I have no intention of signing up for any of it. I'll take my chances with the content ID, which has only matched 3 of my 27 Link Between Worlds videos. I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned, we definitely should be, and we should voice our concerns as much. But at the same time, I don't know, I just get the feeling that we'll be okay. We've made it this far after all!

[@tacticaldollsa1333]

tht makes sense

[@PinkPeachVODS]

They might have backed down once before, but the fact that they are trying again means that they are pretty serious about it. I don't know if this one will last (probably not), but it clearly shows that they are out of touch. I'm just getting worried about the way they are handling online videos of their content.

[@Ninten]

That's a positive way to think about this.

[@ROFLMAOtheNARWHAL]

I really don't want your channel to disappear, Tim...please be careful D:

[@austinshy8890]

Well Said Tim, I honestly im going to just be starting as a Lets Player but if nintendo is going to do this then im proably going to hold on makeing Nintendo Videos, I don,t know if your aware but when the 2013 outbreak hit on my old chennal i was doing a LP of Super mario 3D Land and it scared me up to the point that i deleted all my videos.....now looking back at it that wasn,t the smartest thing ive done and wish i have just made them privte. Still looks like im waiting alittle longer now, maybe ill do some Halo or Kingdom Hearts while this is all going on, but first i need a capture card and ill be getting one soon

[@stephenvlog]

Also, even though the comments are abundantly supportive and positive, I want to make something clear: Nintendo has the right to do this. They can do whatever they want. I feel extremely grateful to do what I do, and I enjoy it immensely. And though I wish Nintendo would shift their stance, they are still within their rights to move forward with this program. However... I can't help but feel this largely stems from Nintendo of Japan and huge cultural/business differences. It seems believable that Nintendo of America understands that this is all very crazy and hates dealing with the backlash it receives from the west. You have to remember that Nintendo is extremely old-fashioned. Remember when Iwata claimed that "gamers don't want online play"? With that in mind, the idea of Nintendo taking longer than everyone else to alter their position is almost expected at this point.

[@Skippygamer1]

Well I don't do videos for money so I think I am good I hope.

[@mateusfernandes9685]

It's like you said, they are in their position to make this happen, and go foward with it. It just makes NO sense from a financial standpoint and in public relations. Nintendo, at least for me, always had the best image out of the "big three" but that's fading fast. Let's just hope, like Tim said, that they realize the hole they're digging themselves and back out of this nonsense, or at the very least make this extremely reasonable.

[@thethunderstriker9416]

I agree with that. Nintendo of America very well knows how much KZbin is probably helping their videos, and I believe some of their employees have even said they are working to be as fair to the content creators as they can be.

[@TheTaradiddlers]

Thethunderstriker The way I see it, the program should't be in place regardless of how well NoA handles it. Other than the occasional crazy moments (Lookin' at you, Sega) no other company does this. Me and the folks on my channel don't have the viewer base to reasonably start monetizing, but with how uneasy this system is I'd honestly rather not get revenue for the few of videos that match than be censored.

[@TheTaradiddlers]

The Taradiddlers That being said, I know there's not much we can do other than speak our opinions with politeness and clarity. Nintendo does have the legal right to do with their intellectual property as they see fit; I just hope they'll back off a bit.

[@Ninten]

A lot of people are saying they are starting to hate Nintendo because of this program. Sure Nintendo makes bad decisions, and are terrible to content creators. But not every video game company is perfect. Xbox and Sony have had their fair shares of bad decisions. Just because Nintendo is really bad with content creators doesn't mean they are a bad company In all. Nintendo are the ones who brought video gaming back after the video game crash, and all their games are fantastic. I'm not saying I'm okay with Nintendo's program. I'm just saying this incident isn't a reason why you should stop playing Nintendo games.

[@uVCrossZ]

Totally agreed and most of the comments in my opinion don't understand that one mistake isn't the end of the world

[@Ninten]

***** They are not bankrupt so obviously they are doing something right.

[@billyjay]

This is the kind of passionate vlogging and solid up to date (when you are caught up) journalistic efforts that make your channel a must subscribe for video gamers all around the world! I also think that Nintendo will eventually listen to you guys, and change their policies. Keep making change happen!

[@MagicalEmma6]

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[@michaelajw_]

Man I feel sorry Chuggaaconroy :(

[@donovanschurek3682]

Yeah, he is almost Nintendo exclusive.

[@PalPlays]

*Normal Marketing-* Nintendo: Hey (x), we would like you to advertise our game. (x): Okay we will advertise your game for $x. Nintendo: So we give you $x and you will advertise our game for us (x): Yes, is it a deal or not? Nintendo: Deal. *Nintendos Logic On This Issue-* KZbinrs: Hey Nintendo we would like to advertise your games absolutely free! Nintendo: Whats the catch? KZbinrs: The catch is that we get to keep any money we get from putting our hard time and effort into making a video to advertise your game and your company. Nintendo: How does that benefit us? KZbinrs: Well it will give your games a ton of positive attention which encourages people to buy the games earning you more money. It will also show you how people like the games, what people like about them through the comments of our videos; This allows you to create analytics to show you what the consumers want, track trends, and overall make the games faster, better and cheaper, and lastly you don't have to pay us a dime for all this. We are already paying you anyways for the game itself. Nintendo: Hmmm, I still don't see how this benefits us. I'll tell you what, you can do this if you pay us for the ability to do this KZbinrs: Wait, you want us to pay you to spend our time and money to make videos advertising your games? Not only is that illogical but on top of that why would we do that? Nintendo: Hey if you want to advertise our game then you will have to pay us to do it! Think about this Nintendo !

[@TheZavinskiStories]

There are seriously no words. I love Nintendo with a burning passion; all of my heart really does care about their amazing video game products, and my childhood was basically crafted around the worlds of Hyrule, the Mushroom Kingdom, the Lylat System, etc. Part of who I am today is because of Nintendo. That all being said, however, this news is extremely, truly, terribly and utterly sad. No one's going to benefit from this in the end. I agree completely with Stephen: the negative PR is going to destroy Nintendo with backlash from, as you said, the most loyal fan base in the industry. I can't believe how Nintendo must think stealing money and censoring/halting the production of content from the people who play their games is a good thing. We have to hope that they'll wise up again, but this time all the way like all the other companies getting free advertising. And if they don't, all of us Nintendo fans will have to speak out or else Nintendo may seriously come to an end on KZbin and maybe overall. This is sad, and it makes me especially sadder that we might not see anymore Nintendo content on StephenPlays...

[@davidabeats]

I havent watched a stephenvlog in several months but this caught my eye. Soooo glad I picked today to check up on stephen. Killer video, you really captured the heart of this and made it easy to understand

[@LOgANMaN1717]

The idea of censorship is the scariest thing to me, luckily if it happens too much I feel like KZbinrs will start to boycott Nintendo. Maybe a Nintendo boycott is the only way to get all this through their heads...

[@sean480]

Honestly, almost every Nintendo LP I watch, I end up getting the game. I love Nintendo to pieces, and I always will, but KZbin is a whole different animal

[@MikeCappella98]

Same here I have gotten so many Nintendo games and other games because of the LPs. They need to notice that. Stephen's LP on Donkey Kong Country Returns made me get it and if it wasn't for Chugga's Xenoblade LP I wouldn't even be thinking of getting the 3DS game or the new one later this year. Heck I wouldn't have gotten a 3DS or Wii U if it was't for the LPs I watch.

[@CrashingDownLovely]

Thank you so much for these videos. This is completely truthful and helpful.

[@Fruitman1997]

Somebody needs to tweet this to Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Japan. This is the best explanation I've seen on this outrageous topic.

[@JanelleJexArt]

Btw I love Nintendo I just want to make sure everything I just signed up for isn't going to affect my other content on my channel. Like my art videos, etc.

[@PowerToMario]

Very unfortunate circumstances, and yet they can do this. My channel has Nintendo content dating back to 2008, and if I can't make ad revenue off of those playthroughs...I guess I'm done with Nintendo videos. Not the game, certainly, but the videos will stop coming. They need to seriously consider the impact this has on the future.

[@jayclaw]

your explanation's very neat, Its easy to understand from the other videos that I've seen

[@Raddishist]

As if Nintendo wasn't already raking in that Smash cash

[@LopsidedPasta]

What a joke. Nintendo doesn't advertise their own games, and now they're trying to discourage anyone else from doing it for them! Lol smh.

[@DanG88]

***** Admittedly their games sold well before youtube and will continue to sell well with or without it.

[@realmonstered-boi7033]

I don't know about you (or anybody really) but that seems very counterproductive. It's sad that Nintendo is doing this.

[@perpetualdios5505]

Well understand that it can change, so it could change for the better.

[@stkkjj]

That was before youtube was the biggest advertising center for youtube. People on KZbin hate nintendo for the most part, and look at their sales. The wii u is failing and this won't help

[@DanG88]

***** The wii u is not failing lol. Not to mention the Amiibo is going crazy with sales right now. Also the New 3ds which isn't even out yet has sold out at every retailer (the 2 special addition ones). Nintendo will be fine. I believe also that they are over 10 million now with hardware sold for the Wii u.

[@FaithRosie]

Im sure I speak for everyone when I say......... "MIYAMOTO!!!"

[@cynic2201]

Stephen, you should upload this video again, but then add something at the end that will push it into the system so that they will see it

[@Fank009]

one of the better rants ive seen on the NCP. at first it felt like it was just another "they're taking my money" but you also chucked in some good points. on the point of why they are doing this, maybe it is to protect their content? but you have a point that they are doing it the wrong way.

[@Meepmeep189]

Another thing about registering entire youtube channels. In Stephen's example, if someone uploads a video of Halo (a game not owned by Nintendo in any way shape or form) that means Nintendo is profiting off work that does not belong to them. That is quite possibly a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[@premydaremy]

The problem with this is that if this Nintendo Creators Program takes off, all the other companies that supported Let's Plays before are going to start their own similar services. Within like 3 years, they'll all be taking huge cuts from us.

[@LunaticJ]

Stephen, you forgot about that in order to make a profit, you can only do select games on a list! That is bad already, but the fact that they leave out games like SSB4 and many other games Nintendo has MADE aren't on there completely killed it. Nintendo is officially the new Viacom. We always knew Nintendo was behind compared to other gaming companies, but they really screwed up this time.

[@TheOtherKonataArchives]

Thank you so much for talking about this Stephen! It's a shame that Nintendo is doing this though. :(

[@thethunderstriker9416]

You know what I find really interesting about this? As stephen said in this earlier post, nintendo is very old fashioned with what they do. Do you know who's not? GameFreak. It's insane to me how much GameFreak seems to know good business strategies, and nintendo doesn't. I watch A LOT of pokemon videos, and I have never heard the content creators complaining about them being claimed, as GameFreak seems to be trying to support the immense amount of pokemon videos on the Internet, because it grows the community as a whole. Not only that, they had pokemon symphonics, which they literally did to have fans come together while listening to pokemon music, and in the same vain of that, they had the pokemon world tournaments WAY before nintendo started having official tournaments for things like smash brothers. Not ONLY that, but with the entire line of nintendo should have more mobile connectivity, pokemon has done that! Two big apps, pokemon TV and pokemon camp, have already been added. They have also put all of the pokemon soundtracks on iTunes! It just seems weird how GameFreak seems to know what their doing, even though they are still working for Nintendo.

[@SuperShesh2]

I am still hoping that another one will be announced because I am busy. That seems like something I would want to go to.

[@johnsmith2875]

And Pokemon was one of the first series of Nintendo Games to have online play,

[@johnsmith2875]

John Smith And free downloadable content.

[@SuperShesh2]

Why isn't all DLC free. its a part of the game dangit

[@mikauanaki4866]

Well... Pokemon did come out long before Smash Bros. did so it's not surprising that it had tourneys first...

[@soupy4099]

Stephen, it's not the pc master race, it's the GLORIOUS PC GAMING MASER RACE. 4K, 144HZ, STEAM, GOG, HUMBLE BUNDLES, MULTIPLE MONITORS, PRECISE MOUSE MOVEMENT, MECHANICAL KEYBOARDS, *LORD GABEN*, EMULATORS, XBOX 360 CONTROLLER SUPPORT, XBOX ONE CONTROLLER SUPPORT, MODDING, REPLACEABLE PARTS, _YOUR GAMING RIG IS ALSO THE ENTIRE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM BECAUSE IT IS A COMPUTER_. bow down filthy console peasants.

[@RainyAcidBox]

Dude you explained that so well. If Nintendo saw this though they'd probably take it down haha. Why are they doing this?!

[@HyperCole]

As a Nintendo fan that played Nintendo games exclusively for fourteen years, I'm absolutely heartbroken.

[@jessetrupiano]

I'm very interested to see how this is going to pan out. Nintendo games may have some of the most popular content on KZbin, so monetizing it is great idea from a business point of view, but their execution doesn't work well with the already present nature of content creators. I think this could work better if Nintendo would advertise channels signed on to this program, such as a 30 second channel trailer shown as an advertisement to their Already monetized videos. I don't know how much content creators actually make, and it's really none of my business, so take my opinion with a grain of rice.

[@TainedTastebuds]

You make a great point about the censorship I didn't even consider. It's like a breach in trust. If someone reviews a Nintendo game, and they're part of the Nintendo program, would they then have to make sure the audience knows that they're in the Nintendo program? Is it technically then like a sponsored review? And how much would we be able to trust that review knowing Nintendo gave it the a-okay?

[@TheEpicTone]

This has one of two outcomes I can see. First is that it fails, and Nintendo finally just lets us do what every other company does. Second, it succeeds, and the other companies start doing this, and the gaming part of KZbin becomes a heavily censored area of the site. For all Nintendo seemed to have done right recently, this misstep is rather surprising, and disturbing to say the least.

[@sgtdrfunk]

First, for people asking about Chugga, I think he's okay considering he's already part of a network that handles that sort of legal thing. It's still kinda spitting in his face, considering he's really good at highlighting lesser known games. Second, Stephen hits the nail on the head when he says that this is only a huge kick in the nads because other companies don't do this. In a way it makes sense for some sorts of content like Lets Plays which essentially put the entirety of a game on KZbin. I agree that it's a bit of a gray area when it comes to copyright and you could argue its morality either way. But the fact of the matter is the precedent is for companies to allow this. I often think it's unfair to judge Nintendo alongside Microsoft, Sony, and the like, but here it is because it's not about content. If Nintendo was the first one to come out and say something about Lets Playing, then I could see it, but as other companies don't do it, it looks really bad on Nintendo. In a way, though, I think it's them loosening their claws a tiiiiiny bit because before they weren't trying to split revenue at all. I think they'll change their minds eventually. I think that the very system they're trying to integrate with is going to reject this idea because of people like Stephen and Totalbiscuit who are getting the word out that this is bad. I think that, quite simply, the only way people are going to hear about this is through outlets like this, and thus they're going to hear why it's bad and not participate. And then it'll fail and they'll try something else...which I hope will be staying away from all these ID shenanigans completely. But I think this is kiiind of a step in the right direction compared to before, but it's a tiny, tiny step and could easily be a lot better. But the people this affects will talk, and they'll talk badly, and that'll make or break the program. But for most people out there, all the fledgling, upstart Lets Play channels with a few subscribers looking for attention wherever they can get it: Don't worry about it. Lets Play for fun. If it's fun, it's worth it. Don't start doing LPs because you want to make money. Do it because you want to have fun, show people a game, and entertain others. Yeah, it's not fair what Nintendo is doing, but if you're just starting out you probably aren't making revenue anyway. Most LPers probably aren't. So yeah, do it for the funsies.

[@johnsmith2875]

Reviews are different than other stuff. Critique videos are protected by copyright law. I don't remember exactly why though.

[@CrazyQuilman157]

Seeing as my work is not something I make money for, I haven't had content ID issues..often. The one time I did is when a certain song was playing in a mall...and I was clearly talking over it.

[@gamezx]

Stephen i've got a big question i feel you'd be the best at answering. I've been wanting to make LP's for so long after watching you, chugga and everyone, it looks so fun sharing your laughs with a fan base who like your commentary. I really wanted to start doing it myself but just for fun, i have no plans for making money out of it, just the experience of it. I got my setup finally ready, was so excited but that was the day nintendo went psychotic with all this stuff. Though i wont be claiming money for anything, nintendo being as draconian as it is i'm terrified they'll shut down my channel on an utter whim if i do anything. Can you please explain whats generally "safe" these days? Like does all this stuff only apply to people claiming ad money, are those who dont generally ignored and left alone? Would i still get claims regardless and would that jepodise my channel having claims? I've asked many other LPers but i never get a straight answer, any help or advise you could give would be awesome ^_^

[@stephenvlog]

Gamez X Nintendo wants you to make videos. They've even went on the record as saying that! I've also never heard of a single instance where Nintendo took a video down, they only monetize it for themselves. For you and any other up-and-comers out there: don't let this situation frighten you. Nintendo isn't going to take your stuff down. They're interested in your free advertisements, and they'd love you to create them.

[@gamezx]

StephenVlog Ahh thanks, so its pretty safe if your just playing for fun? Thats good but i'm expecting then they'll claim the ad money for themselves, is it ok to have loads of them claims just lying on your account? I mean even if they're not doing anything to you, would being claimed 100 times or so hurt the standing or credibility of a persons account or is it seen as just standard and nothing bad? =3

[@Skippygamer1]

StephenVlog Or reviews, and other stuff?

[@Skippygamer1]

Bro doing a lets play like you say is pritty cool. What will the game be?do you know?

[@ShenaniganSync]

StephenVlog TONS of pokemon X/Y lps were taken down due to the content ID, one in particular is Dookieshed

[@ZeldaWizards]

Billybob268 and StephenPlays collab channel confirmed!

[@MrGamerCaptain]

i felt that Stephen was about to cry

[@Hydrokine]

I feel like Nintendo's kind of like an average grandfather. You still enjoy the activities you do with them, and are glad they're still around to spend time with, but they still think society is living in the same culture they grew up in, and they become quite confused when things turn out to have changed. I hope that public opinion can place Nintendo back on the right track, but it will likely be a long, drawn-out process.

[@Allexstrasza]

What's even more crazy about this is the fact that it cost them money to set all of this up, just to earn that small percentage. I think the whole channel is their main goal, because they can make money out of people playing other companies games - which they allow. This fact might lead some other companies to change their minds, just because Nintendo will make money out of people reviewing their games..

[@McMuslim310]

This is why I have a huge love hate relationship with Nintendo. This is an absolutely OUTLANDISH idea that will kill channels. I really feel bad for Emile.

[@SkilledYetTalentless]

Well it seems history is doomed to repeat itself. This sort of media regulation is several steps too far, and honestly I couldn't agree more with you Stephen. You've pretty much hit the nail on the head as to why people are saying Nintendo are falling behind. This is the sort of thing that people, especially youtube creators, need to stand up against, boycott, petition against. A lot of things can be tolerated but this isn't one of them. I would even be prepared to stop buying their games until this scheme is abolished.

[@AlxameiArxon]

I'll be honest, can't say I didn't expect this response. I agree with what you said at the end. Nintendo fans (me included) are SO loyal. I've from a young age grew up on gaming from Nintendo, and even wanted to work for them in localization since High School. But every time they do something as illogical as what they have done with youtube, it just frustrates me. It frustrates me when they make stupid decisions when they can make such great games. There's this youtube fiasco, there's the understocking of amiibo and their new systems heavily, etc. And I think it frustrates me even more, when they've begun to interact with their fans through Nintendo Directs and other pr stunts, and yet they still don't get it. They need to seriously educate themselves.

[@nandinmaster]

What are some people's thoughts on Nintendo giving out promotions to people who signed up for the Creators Program? Like E3 passes for free?

[@gamerwatchproductions8684]

I'm with you stephen this program must be stopped

[@ewtoyou3025]

This is very informative and well said :) thanks for the explanation! as well all do, I hope Nintendo will realize this is wrong and follow the other companies understanding direction..

[@trippersmash8224]

Thanks for the explanation, Stephen. I couldn't agree with you more with everything you said. It's just... Why, Nintendo? After all the years us fans have been loyal to you, and we just want to be creative and make entertainment by playing your game that WE buy with OUR OWN money, this is how you repay us? This is why I don't plan to do any Nintendo content on my channel in the future, and I've been a Nintendo fan for life.

[@ShallBePurified]

Considering this is still in beta, I hope Nintendo changes their policies. If this program fails and KZbinrs refuse to join the program and continue doing what they're doing, they will have to drop the 60% thing. I mean Nintendo had to back down before because so many people called them out on it. They'll have to do it again if all those people also refuses this program and file complaints. There is strength in numbers, and other developers can back us up. I love Nintendo, and they're on of the few companies that I actually respect due to their high quality games, but the way they handle dealing with the internet is god awful. It seemed like they were making a come around with E3 but then this happens.

[@Drelago]

When developers and publishers discovered their games being uploaded to KZbin, back at the start, they were frightened. They were afraid that people would watch the game instead of buying it and that KZbin content creators were taking money out of their pockets. Then they did research and things changed. They realized that there were hundreds of people willing to promote their game for free and that sales would increase because of the promotion. I remember reading a tweet from one developer to TotalBiscuit where it was said that after TB's video was released there was a notable spike in sales. 99% (random number pulled out of my butt) of the publishers and developers support content creators. The content creator wins because of the ad revenue and the publisher/developer wins because of the spike in sales. I know for a fact that I've bought games just because I saw an LP of it and sometimes I hadn't even heard of the game before that point. To see a company fight so hard to squeeze money out of people who promote their games is a little depressing. If I was a content creator I would choose not to do any Nintendo games until things changed.

[@pwn3ronetwothree]

I have no experience as a content creator, so this is coming from the point of view of a somewhat unbiased third party. Honestly, aside from the possible censorship issue, Nintendo has every right to do this. To put this bluntly, when you upload gameplay from a Nintendo game to youtube, you're using something Nintendo made to make money, while not giving anything back to the company who made that game, aside from the obvious cost of the game. And granted, them taking %40 is a bit much, but that's the way Business works. Nintendo makes so much money that they can afford to lose a few customers from this, because the money that they will make will easily outweigh the money that they lost from those customers not buying their games. Just because other companies don't have a problem with you using their games in a video, doesn't mean Nintendo has to follow suit. Nintendo owns the rights to these games, so they can pretty much say "You're going to do things our way, or you're not going to do them at all."

[@swordmaster11891]

If they HAD to take a percentage, what would you think is fair? Not to say that them taking any percentage is fair, but if they HAD to. 10%? More? Less?

[@niallshannon1212]

The weird thing is... Nintendo is probably one of the last companies in video games who even needs this money... I know they are making some losses recently but they have so much money from last generation with the Wii and DS... Maybe someone should start a petition for change?

[@TheTacoGames]

Nintendo really needs to pull themselves together, their recent choices don't make much sense regardless of what their choice effects

[@jordanclifford6049]

You forgot to mention that at some point in Nintendo related videos, that if you want to monetise the video, you have to mention the Nintendo revenue cut incantation either through voice or captions at some point in the video.

[@TheGrandMasterPotato]

Damn, 60%? They can't be completely serious about this; they're being way too greedy. Especially considering the fact that other companies give you all the revenue but the most you get from Nintendo is 70%?

[@oath_xiii]

No YOU keep 60 scamtendo gets 40

[@GamingHole]

Pyromaniac 1339 That....is literally what he said.

[@TheZavinskiStories]

Pyromaniac 1339 Watch the vlog, and you'll find out if you sell your channel away to Nintendo, you can make 70%

[@HyperLuigi37]

Considering the fact that they literally have over $10 billion in Yen's worth in the bank, this is NOTHING but greed. They don't need this money AT ALL and they're hurting one of their worst aspects (that the KZbinrs are FIXING with their videos), and that is advertising.

[@HyperLuigi37]

It doesn't matter what percent they get, they have NO need for that money. Literally, remember that big loss they took last year? Had they kept that loss going consistently, they would have enough money to last 37 years. THIRTY SEVEN YEARS! That's just over AS LONG as they've even been in the video game industry!

[@TheGotenza]

This video feels like when my relatives talk about one of my other relatives negatively

[@yoshipancakes]

Although I love Nintendo's games but sometimes I wonder what the heck is going on at head office

[@XanderGimbel]

This vlog kind of starts like a Game Theory.

[@Nick10doh]

I think that people of the younger generation should be running Nintendo... I mean they aren't that old but I think they don't understand modern gaming ideals. That and If I was running a gaming company and saw my competitors allow Content creators to make gaming content I'd do the same exact thing and allow them to do that because if my competitors think its a good idea then it might be a good idea. I'm going to see how long this is going to last because I'm sure that It will be revised.

[@Animae-Hellulo]

I feel like Nintendo hasn't quite grasped the concept that youtube will boost their sales through free advertising. But I also think they're taking steps in the right direction to solve that. True, this current programme isn't helping much but at least it's better than them just putting content id on everything. However, I do feel that Nintendo will eventually let KZbinrs keep all of their revenue and accept the free advertising and support it. All they need is a push in the right direction. And if they keep seeing that the youtube community isn't happy with their current systems then they'll change it. Things like this just take time so that we can get the best situation for everyone.

[@weisenhorn07]

I have loved Nintendo ever since the Nintendo Entertainment System, and I understand that they have made many mistakes and bad decisions in the past decade or so, examples being naming schemes like the Wii U and the "NEW" Nintendo 3ds, and this content creator program. If this means that Nintendo videos will stop appearing on major channels I watch like Masea, Chugga and even Stephen and Mal, Nintendo needs to fix it desperately.

[@dannybknyc17401]

Nintendo is the Vince McMahon of the gaming industry. (Only WWE Fans will get this)

[@FigmentsofFiction]

I agree with everything in this video. This is just ridiculous for the company I still by and have been loyal to. Do they need the money for how poorly the Wii U is selling? I thought Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros fixed that (not to mention the 3DS is still a freaking gold mine). Nintendo should definitely sit down with dedicated Nintendo content creators and think up a new creators program.

[@Ninten]

Nintendo could change their 60% to 90%. That would be good.

[@TheTonyborbony]

When I first heard about this program I was pretty excited, though now I know what the terms are and what consequences these terms have I have to say that it's ridiculous. I like that Nintendo is trying to figure out a way to cooperate with content creators but like you said, they seem to be missing the point entirely. In the end I'll still be buying the new Zelda when it comes out because I love the series but it won't be without some bad feeling in my gut.

[@coolguygrant77]

a review is fair use you would be able to monetize it, critique is specifically mentioned in fair use policy

[@MegaSonicSwordsman]

You know, I would be scared, but I feel this won't last long due to fan backlash. They will see and hear what the fans are saying eventually and hopefully change or just stop all this, at least I feel this will most likely happen not saying it 100% will

[@pocketzeldario]

We will hopefully find out more soon

[@UnleashedNyctofuil]

I'm a small youtuber whose channel focuses mainly on Let's Plays and hearing stuff like this always makes me worry about recording Nintendo games I used to think that since my channel does not earn money and I don't monetise my videos I would be fine but Nintendo did give me a copyright strike once and that's why i'm always so cautious about uploading anything from Nintendo. I can't even begin to imagine how annoying it must be for bigger youtubers.

[@ShigKirby]

If it wasn't going towards the cooperate side of things and instead to the developers then that would at least be somewhat understandable for the work they have produced.

[@benjikelso9673]

Thank you for every piece of information you put in this video. I recently started this whole youtube thing and was very unaware of how the copyright system worked. This cleared it all up for me. Thank you again! And this system that nintendo is implementing is terrible idea. I cannot imagine who thought it was anything but a terrible idea. Love ya Nintendo but you're being very foolish.

[@blovinghorses]

To be honest, I am not a huge gamer. I don't even consider myself as a "gamer" but I do like to play and one way I decide if I will buy a video game is through Let's Plays. I have bought a lot of my games because I watched a Let's Play of it. They are missing the boat on KZbin and Let's Playing and how it can help them in other ways.

[@burnoutmaster5695]

The Content ID System has made me really cautious regarding what I put in my videos. My friends tried to make me film them playing Five Nights At Freddy's and I wouldn't do it. I know my videos would be better by filming my friends playing video games. And I DO NOT monetize my videos. So what kind of position does this put me in at the moment?

[@MaskedMetaKnight4]

No way I'm supporting Nintendo with this program! I hope this idea gets canned and fast!

[@marcouchiaa97]

Dang its going to be hard for a 13 year old to do let's plays now and that 13 year old is me

[@Kvalen0]

I was waiting for this video lol

[@profskitty]

Good to know that if after I finish the LP I am trying to do, that if I decide to do something Nintendo, which I wanted to do, I will have to do all of this....

[@Bayonettaxfan]

If this gets any worse, I know for a fact that a lot of people I know won't support Nintendo anymore and like a Domino affect all the people who know the people who don't support nintendo will eventually do the same, meaning that if Nintendo doesn't get their act together and actually do something that isn't stupid, they're going to go under, and that is sad.

[@Benicthehedgehog]

StephenVlog so Stephen, what are your thoughts on what is happening to Sega? cause word is that they are taking a really huge hit with them losing a very big amount of their Employees and people are starting to worry about Sega and about Sonic.

[@Benicthehedgehog]

***** let's say that Sega got hit really hard by something that has put their company a bit in trouble since they have not been doing so well with their games.

[@Benicthehedgehog]

***** I know. I do too, but they have been hitting a downward sale in marketing cause of people calling some of sonic's games like his two new Sonic Boom games and Sonic Lost World game.

[@MrThefoo42]

It's ironic that Nintendo gas sponsored and is giving its full support to Apex 2015 but then this happens

[@Manatsujeki]

The only credit I can give to Nintendo as of recent: Releasing the Metroid Prime Trilogy for $10.

[@JanelleJexArt]

Omg I feel like such a newb. I signed up for it...I got overly excited about it, but wasn't fully aware of how much $$$ they would take, etc. 😣 Am I going to be screwed over now? & Should I be worried about $$ being taken from any of my other videos (even if they're not Nintendo-related)? Lol Or does this just apply to Nintendo gameplay vids? What did I just get myself into? Lol Helllllp.

[@Silentsenior09]

Let's not forget that KZbin gets a percentage of the pie as well, which means it's probably less than 60%.

[@TheGrandMasterPotato]

You can make a living off of 20% revenue, right? -_-

[@TheGrandMasterPotato]

***** Even a 60% or 70% would be quite bad for him, then. Bigger KZbinrs are fine almost solely because they make so much money it wouldn't matter anyway, right?

[@Silentsenior09]

Jack Frost Pardon me for interrupting, but if you mention right again, you'll wind up going left. Sorry couldn't resist. =P

[@TheGrandMasterPotato]

***** Right?

[@Silentsenior09]

Jack Frost :P

[@thethunderstriker9416]

In my opinion, this just needs time. I am 90% sure the money they make from people advertising their games on KZbin is far more than the add revenue they're getting from people who would actually sign up for this crap. The problem is, we don't know how much time it's going to take for them to realize this, hopefully it will be soon.

[@marcobruno1798]

What's crazy is that literally every single Nintendo product (hardware and software) that I've purchased in the past three years was based on KZbin Let's Play content. C'mon, man. This is nuts.

[@ShenaniganSync]

Keep in mind its 70% of the 60% left after youtube takes 40%

[@SomniRespiratoryFlux]

*Warning: Long-winded and somewhat rambling rant ahead. There IS a point, but it may take a while to get to it. There's a lot to be said on this video, so bear with it if you want to hear my thoughts to begin with.* This is part of why I haven't enabled monetization on my videos yet. For one, I'm just starting out and my videos are kinda not so great at the moment so it's not really worth it to me yet. Two, my updates tend to be somewhat intermittent due to LPing being more of a hobby to me at this point, something I do when I have time to between classes and such. Third, even if I were consistent and watchable the amount I'd get from monetizing would be probably small enough that I wouldn't get much from it anyway. But then there's things like this. I'm honestly not even mad about it so much as I am totally apathetic. I'm not really going to enable monetization at all unless this blows over in some way or another. But really, Nintendo's marketing department in general is a complete shambles at this point. They've had all sorts of issues with the Wii U and 3DS, at least partly because many potential customers are either incapable of realizing that they're new consoles entirely or not in a position to pay for it. By this last point, let me put it like this: I was born sometime in the early 90s. (Being kinda vague here, I know, but that's how the game is played.) I grew up in a house with a SNES, and gained an appreciation for its games early on. When the N64 came out my family got one early, and so I was exposed to the "new" games as well. My family also received Nintendo Power magazine from before I was born, and so I have that in my childhood as well. By the time I started getting into elementary school and meeting larges amounts of peers, it was the end of the 90s, and for the last few years Pokémon had become the latest craze and it seemed I was one of the only people in my classes that wasn't into it (that's another story entirely though). And other games like Super Mario 64 and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time were also new, and established their first party titles as massive innovators and the "gold standard" of gaming to my generation. Simply put, even though this was the start of other companies starting to "win out" over Nintendo, at this point their games were still undoubtedly leaving an impression of high quality on my generation, and while some have shifted their gaming focus over to other companies for whatever reasons, I and probably many others have stuck by Nintendo games as some of the most consistently good games out there. Now, however, I'm roughly halfway through college. The Poké-crazed generation? Anywhere from fresh out of college into the real world to just entering college now. The sad truth is, many of the people who most want to play Nintendo's new games just simply don't have the time and/or money to anymore. That's the main reason I don't own a Wii U. I've been sold on it since it was revealed, but the release of the system lined up almost exactly with when I had no time or money to spare to make it worth the investment at launch. It's the sad truth, but I feel like I'm far from the only one in this particular situation. Now, is this enough to account for all of Nintendo's marketing problems? Of course not. Clearly they're out of touch in some ways with what people want to see. In some ways I don't mind this, because they still make great games and don't fall into the same ruts that so many other game companies have these days. But their marketing hasn't been doing enough to sell consoles, and this whole "revenue sharing" seems like a half-assed effort to try and make up the previous shortfalls by profiting from KZbin content creators while they can get away with it. It may piss off a lot of these content creators but from a pure business standpoint it makes a twisted sort of sense; getting a leg up on the competition at whatever cost being the (shortsighted) goal they hope to achieve. The problem with this business model is it still assumes some sort of rivalry for money between the game producers and the content producers, which is just simply a load of BS. Content creators who play a lot of Nintendo games do so because they enjoy the games, and most likely would probably be very happy if Nintendo were able to sell more consoles and games. And this is why the 60/40 split is a bad plan. If the two sides of the deal had different goals and this sort of compromise were necessary nobody would be complaining. But they don't, and it isn't, and they are. (And for that matter, is it really a "compromise" when it's negotiated entirely by one side of the deal allowing the other to get a little bit of what they want while they still get just about everything they were looking for?) Nintendo _needs_ to realize this and have a better plan to both let the content creators do as they please, while engineering the publicity they get from the videos to be as effective in free advertising as they can make it without trampling on creative freedom or the efforts of people like Stephen or Emile who put so much time and love into making their videos. In short, Nintendo needs to work _with_ content creators to create terms that are fair to both sides, rather than assuming there's a conflict and acting needlessly antagonistic or attempting to "rule" the proceedings. BUT. And here's the BUT. At the same time, content creators also _need_ to be the bigger man here. It's one thing to look at the terms of a contract and realize that they're atrocious. It's another to be able to call out the writers of the contract in a manner that will actually fix the problem. Sure, the internet can raise a huge stink about it and dig in their collective heels on the issue. But if that's all that happens, the cycle will just continue. Nintendo may withdraw this system if it gets enough backlash, but what about the next time they try to reach out? They still won't see the content creators as allies, and each backlash will make them more likely to act antagonistic in the future. In some ways this huge backlash without a cogent argument will only make content creators look ungrateful and selfish, and preserve the image in Nintendo's mind that they're attempting to piggyback their way to fame. What needs to happen is that the content creators need to stand up and explain to Nintendo that there is no "conflict" to resolve, no need for false compromise. Individual creators, along with networks that represent them, should work _with_ Nintendo, if at all possible, to create a new agreement, just like Nintendo needs to work with the content creators. There's more common ground here than either side (moreso Nintendo, but some content creators as well) tend to think about. That common ground is the only reasonable way out of this mess. I sincerely hope that it can be reached quickly and fairly.

[@SagittariusAyy]

I honestly feel like if they tweaked the terms so that it was more fair to the content creators, and greatly expanded the list of eligible games, this program would almost be fine.

[@SuperJanBro]

As a Nintendo fan, I am incredibly angry with Nintendo. I like how you said they were "out of touch" because it's so incredibly true. It's disgustingly true. I just have no words for Nintendo right now, and I'm usually one to defend them, but this is just too far. Nintendo has gone from my favorite, to my least favorite company in the span of a week.

[@danielval1000]

Man, its getting harder to love Nintendo i still love the game but still

[@ShigKirby]

Its a frustrating situation because I love all of these content creators and for Nintendo its a small bit of income per video and no one else is doing this so its out of touch and needs to meet a better point. However even if business is business, what about all those people who follow creators who might play a new Nintendo game at launch and put out consistently all of the music, all of the gameplay, unlockables and secrets in a few days. Could this be an incentive to not buy these products then? Is it fine to release an artists full album on to KZbin or a film? I'm not saying that restrictions and monitoring videos is good but I don't think that when anyone with the ability to record, edit and upload a game on to KZbin in full decides to do so that they should get all the credit. Its Nintendo's work and investment. Of course publicity is publicity and once again no one else is doing. If it makes people want to buy the game then who cares if everything is out there but many might just pass. Its a profession that I love for entertainment and discussion but the basis of the content is around these games being used for another's revenue probably in some cases without consent.

[@KneeDeep2231]

Nintendo is digging their own grave for the future

[@Prime649]

Dang. I just got a capture device and was wanting to do LPs of nintendo games. Would it be more secure just to center around other companies' games?

[@ValuableVictini]

I love Nintendo. I love their games; they are really good. But when stuff like this happens, it becomes really hard to like them. They don't understand the value of promotion. Even worse due to the fact that no other company does this. This is a prime example of why people need to READ BEFORE THEY SIGN. This can very easily become popular around smaller, unknowing, YTers, and they need to know BEFORE they sign.

[@YourPalRal]

How many people are in the Nintendo Creators Program nowadays?

[@TheOneThatShalRemain]

Stephen. The point I was trying to make earlier, while on the road and using Twitter app, is that it isn't fare to compare Nintendo to other companies. This is not because they are Nintendo, but because I feel that it isn't fair to compare any of the companies to each other. They all do their own things, with their own methods. That isn't to say I agree with what they're doing, because I don't. What I think is going on is that someone with a bit of power is making these calls, and he is worried about his part of the business, and his numbers. He isn't taking a look at Nintendo as a hole company. If the head of Nintendo, or anyone higher up, took a close look at what he's doing, I'm sure Nintendo would change their policy. Also, you mentioned that Japan is very culturally different in the way they run businesses, as someone that deals with several Japanese companies, I would like to know what these differences are. I've noticed a few, but they oppose the point you were making earlier. From what I've noticed, they care much about a reputation, and not nearly as much about money. That isn't to say money isn't important, but they'd rather have a possitive public reputation.

[@joebob2311productions]

Nothing about this program seems better than what is currently in place with possible content ID claims. This does make it very hard to support Nintendo as it has been ever since 2013. However I have a feeling that Nintendo may end up altering some rules after hearing what others have to say. Its still very early to really finalIze or for anyone to switch over to this bogus program.

[@masonbuckwalter7384]

I actually want to cry

[@AmbinoGamer]

This really sucks I was planning on building my channel around Nintendo games with other game dev games sprinkled in now I may have to reevaluate that decision

[@JewelZaid1998]

Damnit! I was going to start LPing in a few years! WHY NINTENDO WHY!?!?!?!?

[@Ninten]

Hopefully In a few years, Nintendo will be better about this issue.

[@AlakazamMast3r]

You only need to care about this if you want money.

[@corrin5932]

Same I tried but they all get copyrighted. Basically keeping my channel from growing....

[@HyperLuigi37]

Same here bruh. But I'm sure they'll eventually backpedal this in a month or so.

[@TheMadnessGamer44]

That's the same for me but I'll still do some Nintendo but do Sony stuff too