Another episode of: Things I will never do but watch anyway because i like them.
@lucianprl5 ай бұрын
at least I'm not the only one who does this :)))
@mr.t98164 ай бұрын
Oh now i understand why this very very specific video has 250k+ views lol.
@sadiulhakim78143 ай бұрын
@@lucianprl Same here
@badtrip8588 ай бұрын
It is almost comical that when searching for a video about Windows Drivers' Development so far, I was only getting results from 10 years ago that have completely given up on that specific matter so the information on these outdated videos is also minimal, and now, out of nowhere, I bumped into this video on my home page. I'd really love to see more guides concerning drivers' development. That was incredible.
@matteoveraldi.musica7 ай бұрын
Same
@israelperezmasle66736 ай бұрын
I wasn't even looking, it just popped up
@m_________232126 ай бұрын
exactly same here :)
@johnmarks714Ай бұрын
Pavel Yosifovich is another good source. Dont know about his videos, but he's written good low level programming type books, such as device driver dev and theyre current.
@user-uc1qz8oq9h29 күн бұрын
so there are no new episodes and this video is more HELLO WORLD than really driver development guide
@bmx666bmx6665 ай бұрын
0 water, 100% short and useful information. Thanks!
@preludelight8 ай бұрын
I thought "There's no way a sub 8 minute video is going to be enough to be informative for a topic like this." I was completely wrong. This was well paced, straight forward, and better than I could have imagined. This will be the go-to video I send to people who want to start with kernel mode dev but don't understand quite where to get started. Also: What shell replacement are you using, It looks swell!
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks! :) I use a port of Suckless dwm for Windows called dwm-win32, it actually sits on top of the shell and does not replace it but rather it works by managing the existing windows and listening to newly created ones
@cocosloan37488 ай бұрын
Do not encourage this fellow... Next time he will do it in 4 minutes and I wont get it at all 😢
@jyothishkumar30987 ай бұрын
@@nirlichtman Much like xoblite or Kera desktop
@johnshaw67028 ай бұрын
I liked it. I haven't written a driver in 25 years, but I see things have changed. Short but sweet.
@user-kk4vy7uq5o9 ай бұрын
Everything to get you started with drivers
@madghostek30268 ай бұрын
extremely good tutorial, coincise, no pauses, everything planned
@szyszqu8 ай бұрын
Damn, at the beginning I couldn't even tell if it was Linux or Windows with that DWM bar, looks amazing!
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
dwm-win32 :)
@nyzss9 ай бұрын
incredible content, I would love to see more videos that introduce or expend on more low level concepts. thank you!
@shauryayamdagni8 ай бұрын
expand
@johnmarks7148 ай бұрын
Please expand
@yabbaso8 ай бұрын
Yes please, taking these to the next level
@rohitjacob803Ай бұрын
Finally someone decided to put out on a tutorial on writing windows driver instead of linux
@NullCyan9 ай бұрын
Please make more Windows low level programming, this is awesome! suggestion: tutorials on C windows api
@ufufuawa4018 ай бұрын
How bout Native API Programming :3 ?
@NullCyan8 ай бұрын
@@ufufuawa401 true :3
@dsihacks8 ай бұрын
@@ufufuawa401 aint no way we making our own csrss.exe 💀
@awaismushtaq57196 ай бұрын
@@ufufuawa401 couldn't agree more. We all need to know how things used to be during good old days
@uschurch8 ай бұрын
You have the best programming tutorials.👌If everyone made their tutorials as concise and terse KZbin could free half of its storage.😂
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@Potew8 ай бұрын
I wonder how much knowledge and IQ is needed for making all these steps with such easiness. Thanks for the video!
@waleedalrashed14118 ай бұрын
Even though I learned about drivers back in Uni. It was all theory. your 7-minute long video was the missing piece. Like your video style, not asking for [like , share, comment] just straight to the point with no pauses. Appreciate your hard work. p.s: liked , shared, subed ✅
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@HarperLee18408 ай бұрын
That's quality content I want on KZbin. Great video sir.
@g4yktzgjx68 ай бұрын
Video starts "Before you start writing a driver" Wait.. You skipped 6 steps. "Hello", "Subscribe", "Like", "Sponsor", "Basic shit you should know before even clicking the video", and "Thank you". Overall. Nice, short, and concise video. More of this please!
@Speed4Runs8 ай бұрын
It amazes me how someone can be both a CS geek and cute at the same time I've always been interested in drivers development, but despite having both hardware/electronics and kernel knowledge, I had no idea of where to start for drivers, ESPECIALLY on Windows. Thanks!
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment :)
@runninggames7716 ай бұрын
lmao bro got rizzed on a fucking driver tutorial
@Speed4Runs6 ай бұрын
@@runninggames771 could you believe it? Being weird and coding really bring the most unexpected parts of people
@gatonegro1875 ай бұрын
eww gay
@felipemurta91603 ай бұрын
@@runninggames771lmaoo
@stefanosbek8 ай бұрын
I absolutely love these. Short but informational.
@Acradasa28 күн бұрын
i can't get enough of your content, it's that good!
@dtikvxcdgjbv79756 ай бұрын
I love Your work. Very helpful. You proved us that creating a driver is not a rocket science. Now some humorous stuff. When I saw the driver not stopping from executing, I expected that You'll like a true programmer make fun of it by saying: "OMG, how is this thing stopping?"
@GrindAlchemyTech8 ай бұрын
You explain very well....the delivery is rare ....many videos I've watched...it's rare to get explanations that actually explain things if that makes sense... thank you ♌🙌🏽💗
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@orcofnbu8 ай бұрын
i feel so lucky that i found this content. just wow
@faustasazuolasbagdonas1238 ай бұрын
Short and straight to the point 👍. Subscribed.
@HumanGamer8 ай бұрын
I've been wanting to know windows driver dev for years and suddenly you make this video! Thank you. Would you be able to do more tutorials on windows drivers? For example, what about a driver for a virtual floppy disc or something? I'd love to see that.
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Yes, planning on more driver/kernel level videos, it's a very interesting subject :)
@sameerakhatoon95088 ай бұрын
@@nirlichtman would love to watch more on this
@abdullahtrees52048 ай бұрын
This is an excellent video! To the point, concise and beautifully simple! Thanks a lot
@joab838 ай бұрын
simple, concise and excellent for learning basic concepts!
@chipling73675 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Nir, that's the kind of video I enjoyed the most. Short and informative. No BS. Thanks again.
@formlessone28078 ай бұрын
Well done - succinct, hits the important points. Thanks for this!
@Songfugel3 ай бұрын
Wow, this was an amazing video! so clear and so informative without skipping any steps (like sadly so many do) that are "obvious" to people who this every day
@emblink275 ай бұрын
Watched the video. Added driver development to my cv 😁
@koolitschКүн бұрын
did this guy just entered PC godmode? yes!
@597das9 ай бұрын
are you using a tiling window manager within windows? or do you just have multiple instances of a vm on different linux workspeces? if so, what tiling window manager are you using? I tried komorebi a few years back but it was pretty early in development back then.
@ardnys359 ай бұрын
that looks like i3 and it's a nice wm for linux. seeing it on windows is kinda cursed but it got me curious too. anyways maybe give i3 a try, it's pretty easy to setup and configure
@nirlichtman9 ай бұрын
@597das I use a port of Suckless dwm for Windows called dwm-win32, more information on the vid about my setup
@jbray2508 ай бұрын
Fantastic tutorial and well explained, subscribed and looking forward to more
@vladislavkaras4918 ай бұрын
It was interesting to watch how to create a simple driver! Thanks for the video!
@mattmurphy7030Ай бұрын
This is exactly the kind of stuff I want to see. Thanks!
@BigA18 ай бұрын
Not being a full time programmer, I would like to see a 'Real World' example of what a driver is and what it can do, if that's possible?
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Yes, I plan on making a more general video about drivers as well :)
@TheNewKill12128 ай бұрын
I've been developing kernelmode driver for anti-cheat system, used assembly on x86 and ObRegisterCallbacks on x64. This is one of the examples. Another example is a device driver as you can access everything from kernel, you can for example ask PCI device directly.
@alexandrohdez39828 ай бұрын
Driver is complex, thank you 👏👏👏👏
@complexity55453 ай бұрын
I was trying to refresh making microsoft drivers. Good video.
@pascalcoole27255 ай бұрын
Nir, thanks, i don't understand anything about MicroSoft Windows, running Linux since 1994 as wel as some UNICES. Your video however is the first interesting instruction on MicroSoft development i have ever seen. Main interesting thing is that you actualy show whats happening iso obfuscating the whole process using an IDE.
@ciscornBIG9 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH! I'll check this out this later today. Thanks, broseph!
@GuildOfCalamity8 ай бұрын
Never seen this explained so succinctly, bravo! Could you do another tutorial for creating a driver to talk to a USB device?
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Noted, that is a good idea :)
@progste8 ай бұрын
Very well made and without wasting time!
@Rombizio3 ай бұрын
The cmd prompt to compile this alone make me cry. The extra steps to make it work put me in fetal position.
@none_of_your_business8 ай бұрын
Interesting, after 10 years of linux kernel programming, I never knew that windows also has something akin to dmesg, I also love how short and to the point this was. Kol hakavod.
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Toda! It's somewhat similar to dmesg but also different since dmesg shows you the kernel log buffer and the program dbgview just connects as a debugger to the user mode programs/kernel and shows you debug prints (although it does have a feature to log boot)
@ilyastoletovАй бұрын
Nice video. I certainly won't write any drivers for Windows but the commands' syntax of Windows shell is quite interesting, although similar to Linux
@gaeshows19388 ай бұрын
It’s better to debug your driver inside a VM to avoid having to restart your PC every time you get a BSOD
@paradoxicalcat7173Ай бұрын
The first time I wrote a Windows driver I didn't BSOD the machine once. Driver dev isn't for you if you can't handle memory.
@m.gredemptor26108 ай бұрын
Man after looking at C-Drive for 20 years, your title just gave me a brain fart 😂.
@jonweinraub5 ай бұрын
Really fantastic how the algorithm shows something I didn’t think I wanted to learn but now I do. Why though you needed the two voided parameters but wasn’t used on call with null unless I missed something. תודה
@nirlichtman5 ай бұрын
That is just to follow the entry point signature according to the docs which specifies that the driver entry gets two parameters, I did not used the information passed into these parameters so I just ignored them. בכיף 🙂
@sinaghaderi91848 ай бұрын
Nice video 👍🏼 Ps: now i understand the beauty of the linux kernel.. way more cooler and easier to write a kernel module 🧑💻
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@saecula2391Ай бұрын
Klasse Video Vielen Dank, kurz und kompakt ... btw Ich benutze u.a. Visual Studio hauptberuflich ✨
@kern7769 ай бұрын
You are ANGEL!! Thank you buddy, i suscribed )) thanks
@xx_xxx_xxx_xx7 ай бұрын
Btw you don't need to disable DSE to load drivers From an elevated command promoted run: bcdedit /set testsigning on Then reboot and you should see that windows is running in test mode and you can load the driver. To turn it off run the same command with the off option (which is self explanatory)
@indianbandhu8 ай бұрын
Holy Sh**!...Dam it so precise, so concise tutorial..freaking amazing!!!🤩
@tamirrothschild8 ай бұрын
לא יודע איך הגעתי לפה אבל כל הכבוד לך ובהצלחה עם הערוץ
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
תודה!
@netanelkomm56368 ай бұрын
הופתעתי ושמחתי באותו זמן לגלות שאתה ישראלי כשראיתי ״שבת, 02 דצמבר״ :)
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
:)
@RiadAhmed-ce6qo3 ай бұрын
Nice one 👍 is that working with hive and hardware abstraction layer ?
@illusoryknowledge93073 ай бұрын
The couple cringe comments bashing Vim or C is laughable and makes one question if they even know programming. Great video, most have sought profit by means of their 20 minute diatribes, inefficiently transmitting that thing called knowledge. This is a pleasant contrast.
@WhileTrueCode2 ай бұрын
years ago when making my first USB device with microchip PIC i started to get into driver development. guess i got in at the wrong time... when windows decided "remember when we popped up a box asking if you want to install unsigned driver? tough luck; now we won't let you at all" requiring an end-user to do that stupid advanced troubleshooting startup option (for every reboot) completely stifled my hope for making any sort of custom product. thanks MS for keeping us "safe".
@michaeldonoghue90156 ай бұрын
Great video. I would just add that you should always wear your seatbelt when writing a driver. Safety first.
@DeadCat-423 ай бұрын
I used to make all kinds of genetic print drivers for hp laser printers to get around the bloat ware they pushed.
@test-rj2vl8 ай бұрын
If you just want to play around and learn I would suggest using VirtualBox or VMware or something similar. Then you don't have to restart. Also if you brick your computer like infinite boot loop or something then with VM you just restore previous snapshot and you are ready to go again.
@Veso2668 ай бұрын
Nice Would love to see a more detail video like how to comunicate with a driver from ur user program Suppose u are making a device driver, so how would u get data in and out of it with ur user program so u could comunicate with a device on the other side of a driver?
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
That is a good idea for a future video, thanks :)
@user-uw7st6vn1z8 ай бұрын
how to get your driver certified by ms? how much money does it take to do that?
@karlm95848 ай бұрын
This is great thank you. I never knew how to create services like that. Would that service also show up in Windows services?
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
It won't show up in the services application since it is technically not a service but a kernel driver (I ran sc with type= kernel), SC supports also creating and loading drivers and calls them also "services" but you can see it is a driver by looking at the type (with sc query for example) and seeing that it says "KERNEL_DRIVER".
@HimanshuShekhar15 ай бұрын
This is super awesome channel. Thank you
@DrVektor9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this example.
@MNE-yk8vp8 ай бұрын
no intro, no curve ball, just straight nerd-ery
@kinershah4643 ай бұрын
Awesome, nice and simple. 👍
@strob56578 ай бұрын
Wait can you explain why .sys and not .inf? Do they serve the same purpose or is there a difference? This is so neat by the way it's super cool
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks :) .inf and .sys serve a different purpose, the sys file is the actual binary of the driver while inf files are textual config files that tell Windows how to install software/drivers
@strob56578 ай бұрын
Ahh I see I see, thanks!! And again, really cool video I'm such a sucker for low level windows, thanks for making such a concise video about it!!
@SeanChYT8 ай бұрын
Is there any way to install custom certificates or anything so that we can sign our own drivers? Disabling driver signature verification permanently is becoming very difficult on modern Windows versions if I remember correctly. It used to be easier.
@lilhaxxor8 ай бұрын
Very nice. Things I want to know: - Is the "cl" compiler "Clang" or something else ? - What happens when you crash a driver ? Do you know the procedure to handle that safely or is it a guaranteed blue screen ?
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
- "cl" is the Visual Studio compiler - unless you tell it to compile only, it also calls the linker after it finishes compiling (in the video I passed to cl flags for the compiler and for the linker) - You can handle exceptions in the driver safely - more information here: learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/handling-exceptions
@strange17028 ай бұрын
would be cool to see c++ version of drivers as well as how to sign a driver (:
@0o29k24 ай бұрын
just write ur code in c++, cl is a c++ compiler
@paradoxicalcat7173Ай бұрын
C++ isn't supported in kernel driver development as it uses memory in ways kernel mode drivers can't support due to the nature of memory management in the kernel.
@strange1702Ай бұрын
@@paradoxicalcat7173 tf you talking about, it is supported, i have been writing kernel drivers for a decade now in c++ obviously...
@strange1702Ай бұрын
@paradoxicalcat7173 literally usermode functions such as readprocessmemory is streamed from kernel... what you said is basically "i cant read this book, because its in French, and translations are impossible"
@MrChrisRP8 ай бұрын
Nasty, dude. Rock! You make the NirSoft stuff? Just wondering, with the coincidence in names is all. I like those tools a lot myself and use them since forever. Same with Russinovich's stuff.
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
NirSoft is not me :)
@Jonathan-ru9zl5 ай бұрын
אהלן! תודה על הסרטון 🙌 תגיד אתה משתמש במקלדת מכנית?
@nirlichtman5 ай бұрын
בכיף! לא מכנית, זה מקלדת ישנה משנות התשעים (אני יותר אוהב מקלדות ישנות)
@bgill74758 ай бұрын
Excellent and straight to the point, thank you very much! 🙂
@jackgerberuae8 ай бұрын
What would you do with a driver though. All hardware drivers are supplied by MS or the vendor, right?
@dylanh3338 ай бұрын
Access and manipulate kernel data structures normally not available in userland, implement file system filters, hook system calls, etc. The term "driver" in Windows tends to more generically refer to kernel modules (in Linux terminology), rather than just stuff for "driving" actual hardware. That said, you do also have some "user-mode drivers" that *are* for driving hardware, and don't run in kernel mode ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@jackgerberuae8 ай бұрын
@@dylanh333 that is a very clear explanation, thank you 🙏
@kcirtaP698 ай бұрын
If "sc create driverName binPath= C:\path\to\driver.sys type= kernel" is giving you an error try using sc.exe
@midjhelins83836 ай бұрын
nice and curiously
@ohioisbruh8 ай бұрын
Just have a doubt... How to implement this driver onto a device... cuz today most devices are plug & play...
@defaultentertainment6978 ай бұрын
nice albums on the wall man, starset and breaking benjamin.
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🤘
@defaultentertainment6978 ай бұрын
@@nirlichtman i religiously listen to downplay's saturday album on every saturday, starting with it's saturday song.
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
@@defaultentertainment697 Nice song! has some early Breaking Benjamin vibes :) I like the original Downplay version of Dark on Me
@nostromza34338 ай бұрын
How do you sign the driver?
@kamugishajoseph64676 ай бұрын
The precise video about drivers development. Can you continue and create executable file for driver ?
@gregorymccoy67978 ай бұрын
Good video. Very clear
@jasdfff7704 ай бұрын
I don't quite understand what a driver does. What is the difference from a "normal" program? And isn't a driver a specific program that a hardware uses to communivate with the OS? If so, the driver you created doesn't have any hardaware attached to it. If you could explain to me... thanks!
@rajatmond8 ай бұрын
Can't you do it in visual studio? That's the whole purpose I prefer lattepanda over raspberry pi.
@test-rj2vl8 ай бұрын
Can you make video of getting your driver signed so you could run it normally? It's something that we all have to do at some point anyways. MS official tutorial can be big and scary at the beginning. It's not clear if it costs money or if if it's possible for free also.
@onurguzel168 ай бұрын
Very nice topic and indeed what I'm really interested in kernel mode drivers, many thanks. However, just being curious, at 05:49, why didn't compiler emit an error eventhough you left one space after "binPath=" then typing the path after this a space in final stage?
@dylanh3338 ай бұрын
That command wasn't a compiler - sc.exe (I believe) stands for Service Control (similar in function to `systemctl` on a Linux system with systemd), and it has some pretty funky and nonstandard command line syntax, including the values for named parameters requiring leading whitespace. Under the hood in Windows, drivers are also "services" too, hence why this was used to register the driver as a service and then subsequently start it.
@autohmae8 ай бұрын
sc just handles services as mentioned by dylanh333. Their is a tool called: srvman from SysProgs. This can show you all drivers are also services.
@onurguzel168 ай бұрын
@@dylanh333 ah, yes, I know it was SC command, sure. Just weird that it completed fine with white space after equals sign (and no enclosing quotation marks for the path, maybe because of the path had no any space, that's another thing) which I wanted to know. Same also happens for "type" parameter in the same command call leaving one space again. Thanks friend.
@madpsyber6369 ай бұрын
what tiling manager are u using for windows i cant find a good one that i can easily customize
@nirlichtman9 ай бұрын
I use a port of Suckless dwm called dwm-win32, more info on the vid about my setup
@TheFrexLp8 ай бұрын
I don't understand the video but I wanted to ask what Desktop you are using? It looks like i3 on Linux.
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
I use a port of Suckless dwm for Windows, more info on the vid about my setup
@goofballbiscuits36476 ай бұрын
Thank you! I had to modernize a driver for Win11 to use a 12+ year old printer. It's an amazing Canon from before the ink stuff started getting bananas. I spend $20/year on ink. The only problem I have is that Canon didn't want to modernize the driver! I've only developed for private companies. I know how they lock down IP and have heard that camera companies have gotten super greedy as well. Is it legal for me to release what I have for a win11 driver so others can enjoy it? Bound by US law here, so a bit nervous navigating this IP minefield lol I'm not hiring an attorney for my first FOSSy aspirations 😅
@paradoxicalcat7173Ай бұрын
If you reverse-engineered their code, then no.
@joseloeza3719 ай бұрын
Excellent video thanks
@TommiAVasarainen2 ай бұрын
what is that operating system modification ? never seen that kind of Win 10 ....
@ok-gp7gr8 ай бұрын
I'm getting error startservice failed 577, "Windows cannot verify the digital signature for this file". I have checked that I have done the step where you disabled the Windows driver signature enforcement; am I missing a step?
@CheatSavantАй бұрын
nice
@TulhoKay5 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm from Brazil, my English is at translator level. I started studying the x86 architecture, I can now create some codes. Could you guide me? I have an old notebook to do the tests. It uses several VIA components. My question, how do I get the codes for hardware control and stuff? Like, the bios has its interrupts is it a super I/O, video card? Everything is very confusing, this part involving peripherals.
@joaomatos61729 ай бұрын
nice video
@treddwarfАй бұрын
great video
@muzairafzal15298 ай бұрын
Great work brother
@clyxos34058 ай бұрын
How did you get the dwm looking desktop?
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
I use a port of Suckless dwm for Windows, more info on the vid about my setup
@fabiosarts8 ай бұрын
I just tried the guide on Windows 2000 with its own WDK, it compiled pretty well. Unafotunately i couldn't try it since i couldn't add the sevice, as there's no sc command on that version :O
@nirlichtman8 ай бұрын
Nice! Yah sc is only included with WinXP or higher but maybe you can try loading it with the registry