NLAW vs Javelin: Which is Better for Stopping Tanks?

[@andrewy3m2]

FPV drones give you that fully immersive experience all for the cost of loose change

[@cstgraphpads2091]

And most of the time fail.

[@Hathur]

My cousin (infantryman in UA) has used both multiple times in battle. He prefers the NLAW substantially. He can carry it on his back into battle and still carry the rest of his kit (rifle etc) without being too heavily burdened. The Javelin is too heavy to carry other gear with into battle. You are forced to be a dedicated anti-tank infantryman until you deploy it since you can't carry a proper kit due to it's weight and size. The NLAW allows the soldier to still fight as a rifleman and switch to the NLAW when / if a tank or IFV appears. Performance wise, he says the Javelin is excellent, but it can't be properly fired inside a building (well it can, but it's difficult). NLAW allows him to fire safely from inside a building with ease.

[@amacca2085]

@@Hathur sounds like a true story

[@cstgraphpads2091]

The Javelin also has 50% more RHA penetration, roughly six times the effective range, and the sight has telescopic zoom, night vision, and thermal when compared to the NLAW.

[@Hathur]

@@cstgraphpads2091 Range is the only meaningful aspect of the Javelin, and its a limited element - at least according to my cousin and his peers on the frontline in Ukraine. Penetration, the NLAW gets a mobility kill at bare minimum on everything it hits, according to most reports from the frontline). Range wise, yes Javelin outperforms - at 6x the cost and my cousin has been fighting for 2 years there now and has yet to be in a fight where he needed the range of the Javelin. That's not to say other units haven't, but it's exceedingly rare, in his experience, to need to engage beyond 1,500 feet as anti-tank tactics are not to "snipe" with Javelins, but to ambush tanks close up with a combination of both drones and infantry with NLAWS, who then proceed to mop up both infantry and tanker crews who flee their vehicles while they burn.

[@williamzk9083]

@@cstgraphpads2091The javelin infrared CLU can also launch the Stinger MANPADS SAM. The NLAW can hit targets out to 800m and in theory with new software a moving target to 600 bu 400m is more realistic. These are very different weapons that fulfill different niches. The lower cost of NLAW will be important

[@ambrosemorgan7022]

With well trained troops the javelin tests under optimal conditions had a less than 25 percent effective rate. You should have included that info in your commercial sales advertising

[@chrissmith2114]

You can use the Javelin IR sight at night for surveillance - the weak spot with Javelin seems to be its batteries and having to cool the IR sensor on the missiles, where the NLAW works with IR and magnetic sensing.

[@evulclown]

Silly video the Javelin is better but the NLAW is more portable for a squad whereas the Javelin is a team used differently.

[@cacwgm]

As you point out, they are designed for different conditions and performance parameters. Each is highly-effective at the task they were developed for. The UK is issuing NLAWs at squad level, with Javelins available at platoon or company level (depending on the mission and force composition), which illustrates this well. One slight quibble with the commentary: they're both 'fire and forget' systems.

[@salvor123]

Range of the nlaw is 800 meters, not 600. And price is near 30000 usd not 40000.

[@Hathur]

Correct. My cousin in Ukraine is an infantryman and has a confirmed T-80 tank kill with the NLAW at just slightly over 2,000 feet range.. if the range was only 600 meters (1,800 feet), he wouldn't have been able to hit it.

[@JackNewman-b2x]

Russians also has Captured Javelins.

[@andreww1225]

It’s not new technology Russia already has atgms

[@JackNewman-b2x]

@ Yes they has.

[@Ludak021]

I came here for an opinion but you gave me choice! How dare you!

[@KishoraDelvadiya]

FPV: You may be thinking about me.😎

[@ansokol]

the rpg-7 is still the best...

[@PlaneBoyRadar]

This is not gta

[@akillagorilla5771]

​@@PlaneBoyRadarnah fr tho💀

[@evulclown]

Only in Putins delusional mind.

[@Luke77h]

So true, ask the Israel's in Gaza!

[@andreww1225]

No 😂 it is easily deflected by western tanks and IFVs.

[@Walterwaltraud]

I write this on purpose BEFORE watching: The question is, you have a budget of 10 mio USD/ €/ GBP. How much of what do you buy an maintain? Cause it's gonna be a mix anyway.

[@jimscott1717]

Javelin vehicle mounted and NLAWs for the dismounts would be my view, bearing in mind I have no military experience.

[@jimscott1717]

Carl Gustav for the dismounts as well.

[@vanroeling2930]

I fought the NLaw and the NLaw won!

[@uilliamjungbluth]

Depende a blindagem e velocidade de uso do soldado em movimento de ataque. Ou defesa

[@letsdiy6938]

Its unfear to compair these two weapons. The NLAW can do things the Javelin can't and vice verca.

[@galactuscausandoimpactus9521]

Poor table....??

[@amacca2085]

Stop saying game changers it’s untrue about any weapon

[@schrimpf]

JAVELIN funktioniert nur im Werbevideo des Herstellers gut. Viel zu störanfällig.

[@artistmikelmato7159]

"It's been proven in real combat in Afghanistan "😂😂😂 yes, against whom??? few wedding parties come to mind😂😂😂

[@_Tony.Montana]

The Russians got the NLAW the Javelin 148 and the stinger, Trucks load of those missiles, don't be surprised if you see the Russian version in due course.

[@evulclown]

Russians are too dense to reverse engineer it in time for this war so NP. Good luck getting excited about 20-40 year old tech though.

[@bradleyanderson4315]

Sure Pyotr, they are going to do that with no microchips and no money.

[@evulclown]

Enjoy the 30 year old tech, I know it's like Aliens dropped mad future stuff for you guys

[@Hathur]

Russia already has the ATGM, which performs extremely well (only downside is its weight and size, but is accurate and long range). They don't need the NLAW or Javelin. Moreover, they already can't acquire the microchips needed to manufacture the ATGM due to sanctions, so they have a limited stockpile. They wouldn't be able to produce NLAWS or Javelins or ATGMS until they figure out how to make their own microchips for them. They have a stockpile of ATGMS still, but once those are depleted, they can't make more for quite a few years and they definitely can't make NLAWS, even assuming they reverse engineered it, which would be a waste of time anyway since they already have a very similar anti-tank system for infantry. The only anti-tank weapons Russia can produce today are RPG-7 / RPG-9, which are unguided short range and ineffective against most modern armor, primarily used for clearing buildings or taking out lightly armored vehicles.

[@Ivan-bk9xs]

@@Hathur I don't think the russians are gonna run out of SACLOS ATGMs. It seems they have a good production rate for these, given how they've also flooded Lebanon with them.

[@twanabaiz9516]

I think javelin

[@ogochukwuemmanuel4589]

Nlaw

[@DonVetto-vx9dd]

Russian fpv drone with thermal sight outperform them both in real combat.

[@longsighted]

Really it horses for courses.

[@mrevil6442]

Old RPG stripped to a cheap Chinese drone is much more effective then both of these expansion toys

[@trevorphilips3724]

Javelin its savior of kiev, capital city of ukraine.

[@Alejandrica]

Both fail ,, even in huge number they fail , russia advance,, 150 000 antitank lanchers with million missles and still not enogh . 10 kornent stop merkava in lebanon 2006. Kornet win