NLU Crash Course: Payne’s Valley (Big Cedar Lodge)

[@keeganliff2070]

Very respectful of DJ and Big Randy to refuse to take a divot on Tiger's new course.

[@troy_klongerbo]

Randy with the most sublime course roast of all-time. Big fella dancing around landmines everywhere.

[@dilloneaton5918]

Honestly it's a pretty good description. It's a sick course but if you're not down with "let's just blow this place up and build something" it's not for you lol

[@ryanjordan1083]

It really is just 9 minutes of Randy saying its a shit course in a nice way.

[@calvinprest]

It's the 1.8M sqft Cabela's Outdoor Store of golf courses!

[@xingli1337]

Big Randy doing a commendable job talking up this course. Outside of wide fairways, could hardly think of a course that was more “not-Randy.”

[@928pcar]

Randy blows at golf, so why take anything he says seriously?! Lol guy shot 94 at PV fucking hack

[@TheMikeMase]

@@928pcar you seem fun

[@regiwstruk]

What did you shoot? Randy: “I threw away the card, I think 90-91”...cut to video as the big guy taps in 18...DJ: “Course record 94!” A true who-could-say situation...

[@tylermcabee]

Perhaps the 94 score was including a classy par on the 19th?

[@928pcar]

The guy is a hack

[@cass1us12]

I feel like Paynes Valley went after a customer the other 2 courses don't. Buffalo Ridge is a narrow up and down second shot golf course in the Ozarks. Ozark National is a Coore Crenshaw creative design built with the land type of course with blind shots and 100 different ways to play each hole. PV is a lavish creation from a Billionaire and Tiger woods made to have fun and appeal to guys who want to play with their buddies and have a good time. Each has their appeal and the idea is you come and play all three and get 3 different experiences, which I think is pretty genius and makes the resort appeal to way more golfers than some other resorts.

[@stevemiller4292]

Yep. Even the two short courses are VASTLY different from each other.

[@MIHM0422]

Randy is a hard man to excite. Him giving a course a meh review is like an 8/10.

[@nathancookston]

TL:DR - Randy "play it if you want a soul-less golf round with pretty views"

[@benjaminwycoff6928]

Playing Payne’s Valley and Ozark the next day this weekend coming up!! So pumped!!

[@contilla]

beautiful.....now can i say, DESPERATE for a new Strapped!

[@cace81]

I recently played Payne’s Valley and Ozarks National. ON is by far the more challenging track. PV is designed for folks to have a fun day on the course where you can enjoy the views and the golf without having to really over-think the golf course. Fairways wide enough to land a plane and the only defense are the greens which run really pure. There’s always a breeze up there. It’s definitely not seasonal. I enjoyed the course a lot.

[@TrueNorthGolf]

Course looks immaculate 😎👍

[@benbrearley9082]

Feel like randy was trying really hard not too tell us what he really thought 😂😂😂

[@erichooper9858]

I will say I appreciate that he was more honest than most. Everyone else i've seen review the course are just blowing tiger.

[@BobLoblaw1978]

Payne's Valley is PERFECT for what it's goal is. It's over the top and wild and made for all golfers. I'd recommend Payne's Valley to probably 95% of golfers over Ozarks National. Both are amazing, but your average golfer with a 10+ handicap is going to have way more fun at Payne's. The better golfers and GCA snobs will prefer Ozarks. Personally I love both and would choose either depending on the day. Can't lose with ANY of the courses there. All so fun.

[@Melchior11]

Probably true, although I think he did a good job of reviewing it without being completely subjective. Clearly not his style, but it still seems stellar and likely to appeal to a lot of people too.

[@Melchior11]

@@BobLoblaw1978 I thought Ozark National looked to have that “playability” aspect too, although probably more difficult to score. Is that an accurate observation or are you likely to love more balls and be more frustrated on Ozark National?

[@stevemiller4292]

@@BobLoblaw1978 I agree with this 100%. I love them all but usually get laughed at when I say that Buffalo Ridge is my favorite.

[@johnlandes3322]

Thank you for all the hard work!!

[@dixon1283]

Great job be Randy saying he hated it without saying he hated it

[@pbmaster77]

Can’t wait to play there in July

[@superman2326]

I just got back from a golf trip to the ozarks and Big Cedar and we had handicaps from 4-25 in our group, everyone loved it. There is a lot more challenging, shot-making golf at other courses that truly test your skill within 20 mins of Big Cedar and Paynes Valley. But you can't beat the views, hospitality, and grandiosity of it all from the pro shop, trip to the first tee through the canyon, the cabin at the turn, underground cave, 19th hole... it's all memorable and worth it at least once for any golfer.

[@greggermany252]

The first paynes course just north of Branson was the hardest I’ve ever played can’t wait to get to the valley

[@fredhunt2752]

Not worth $450 green fees!

[@pwalker317]

Group from the Refuge was down there in October. Overall consensus seemed to be we really liked Payne's Valley. Greens have character and mega width and angles throughout. Ozarks National was just on another level.

[@jeremiahruth9124]

Payne's Valley does a great job of playing to everybody, and can be challenging for everybody despite the large fairways. It hosted the Missouri Am championship and in two rounds out of 120+ players only 28 finished under par. It isn't just a bombs away and hit wedge course like many make it out to be. The beauty of the course is they can set it up to be enjoyable for the normal golfer and set it up to be a challenge for the best golfers. It is very similar to another course that has unending fairways and that's Augusta National. Both courses really rely on angling yourself into the green and can protect itself very well with difficult pin locations. Both almost look too perfect like the grass was painted on the landscape. This guy must hate how picturesque Augusta is as well.

[@BAD_GolfHawaii]

Just hit bombs!!! 💣💣💣

[@TheGolfClan]

Me watching for 9:03 waiting for Randy to tell us what he actually thought of it

[@tonynewell2375]

Didn’t think I’d see Scotty scheffler playing number 5 at Payne’s valley

[@olson_]

For some reason it reminds me of New Giza Golf Course in Cairo, Egypt designed by Thomson, Perrett and Lobb, probably because it's also in a quarry.

[@ens8280]

Wooffff...tell us how you really feel, big guy haha.

[@metalheads-golf]

Looks nice. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

[@cbursta]

I know you prob have deals to hit the big name courses around here but there are so many good courses in the Branson/Springfield area. Thousand hills, Highland Springs, Branson Hills, Point Royale....definitely come back sometime soon

[@TURKISHSAILORo]

Those are the courses you picked?

[@cbursta]

@@TURKISHSAILORo add some more?

[@Lochvey]

Bring back shells wonderful world of golf and Randy commentate. I'd ppv that

[@y-it-g]

Boys I was literally there last week. Impeccable timing.

[@SevenLions122]

and???

[@y-it-g]

@@SevenLions122 somehow exceeded the hype. Thought buffalo ridge and paynes were way better than ozarks though. Ozarks may have been slightly overhyped.

[@928pcar]

Sounds like Crenshaw tore you a new one

[@daithig8257]

Wow what an amazing golf course only in America would they build something like that. The place looks pristine almost clinical looking, there doesn't look like there's a blade of grass out of position. As the big man said its one of those course's were the features out weigh the course, I suppose only time eill tell.

[@kevincrane1663]

Does NLU have a sneaky axe to grind with big cat? They had to know randy would react that way to such a soulless course built post 1832 AD

[@chrisosmonson854]

Randy might be woke...

[@khunopie9159]

It makes logical architectural sense that they should change the water on the 19th hole to a beer hazard.

[@jeffreyober8637]

Always makes me chuckle a little to watch these videos and not see a single putt outside a couple feet go in. At least we got the long lip-out. Putting is hard!

[@928pcar]

That’s because these so called “course guides” have actually never broken 70

[@ramsR16]

How did you acquire that poster in your office? I can’t find it anywhere!

[@commane21]

Imagine seeing a Ross or Tillinghast course with their names on every tee markers ....

[@mrmoke2820]

I expected an amusement park course from a guy who started selling fishing tackle in his dad’s liquor store. I recommend a trip to the many golf courses in the Ozark’s that work with the land rather than one blasted into it, Deer Chase and Fourche Valley for a start. Those of us who live, work and play in the Ozark’s know well the difference between a valley and a ridge, the rich fishing guy and the rich golf guy could have done better for Payne.

[@928pcar]

Nah, no one could have done better. You’re clearly too broke to play the property

[@mrmoke2820]

Hahahaha, yep.

[@markpayne28]

Big Randy hates it then!

[@scottc9270]

Did Tiger put a boat in every little pond? very on brand

[@superman2326]

Big Cedar Lodge and Golf area is owned by Johnny Morris, owner of bass pro shops. That's a bass pro thing. 19th hole was also Johnny's idea

[@scottc9270]

@@superman2326 makes sense lol

[@pwalker317]

They aren't there full time, they put them out there for the Payne's Valley Cup

[@chaseblossom]

Good lord, DJ. I wanna fly out to Florida and teach you how to swing a club! Your lower back is going to break before you get to 50!

[@CTRSteve]

For just a second I thought you'd invited Wyatt from Williams College to play with you in the Ozarks.

[@gordongourlay4449]

BIG shout out to Randy ... apparently not throwing up in his mouth there ...

[@rspeck]

The video summed up - Randy didn't care for the course but didn't come out and say it.

[@brunostarnino9428]

Exactly

[@aaronconner2010]

This was the worst course for the big guy to have to do. Not his style at all. But a beautiful course

[@Robbla4550]

when randy says its not a walking course its a shame does that mean we as humans should get some more exercise lol or is it just that inclined

[@superman2326]

It's insanely elevated and some holes very little to no accessibility to walk if you wanted to. (Extreme Elevated tees, paths on cliff edges with streams up past your ankles.)

[@edleyfinning]

Golf is just better when you can walk the course.

[@Robbla4550]

@@edleyfinning i never said it was not haha, i also agree

[@bers94]

Big Randy - Not a big Paynes Valley Gui

[@robertmayer1497]

Looks to be "Disneyland" for golfers.

[@tylerf286]

Looked at tee times for Payne's Valley. $325...Really making the game accessible. Growing the game...hahaha

[@TURKISHSAILORo]

So every course’s job is to make the game accessible to everyone?

[@tylerf286]

@@TURKISHSAILORo No of course not. It's just funny to me that's all. There are definitely levels to this game...If they can successfully run their business at that price point, then more power to them...But is also true, that it would be great for the game if people wanting a very nice golf experience didn't have to make a monthly car payment to do so. You'd have to agree with that.

[@TURKISHSAILORo]

@@tylerf286 Sure. It would be great. But that’s not really how the world works.

[@tylerf286]

@@TURKISHSAILORo thanks for the lesson haha.

[@jefffiore7986]

@@tylerf286 with the cost of the build along with the maintenance it has to be expensive or it would look like a $50 muni....not a blade of grass out of place and I am guessing the size of the crew to take care of it is 10X what your local course has.

[@dilloneaton5918]

This course is so much fun. Defintely blew the actual place up to make it so that kinda sucks but it's worth the money

[@nickyedwards7478]

Disappointed that we did not get any Kevin the Skunk content in either of these videos...

[@sjgsteve21]

This place looks like someone photoshopped a golf course into the back country of Missouri.

[@slowster2945]

Randy sounds like he's in pain during the entire video.

[@Butcho22]

jesus christ you can listen to this guy at 2x speed and he still speaks slowly

[@928pcar]

Randy, tell us you suck at golf without telling us you suck at golf

[@greebytime]

Randy walked a long way to not completely shit on this course. Seems very over designed. Tiger will grow into it

[@RyanTJohnson]

So Randy hates it...

[@cren1676]

If this is any indication of what Tiger is going to bring as a designer, I have no interest in seeking out one of his courses. Lets just hope this is a one off.

[@MrIrishfan1310]

Randy is always such a downer. Feel like this guy hardly just enjoys the moment. Unless something is absolutely 100% natural and up to his specs, he’s gonna just be so down about it. Annoying and comes off so snotty

[@chrisosmonson854]

So we love wide fairways because 'playing angles' but now there is possibly too wide? siiiiiiiccck

[@TURKISHSAILORo]

Do you guys even enjoy golf?

[@rushy5065]

No Laying up guys seem really negative on a lot of courses they are playing at the moment. Says it’s all when the highlight is the walk back to the clubhouse?!? The element that I think most enjoy of just golfing with mates and having a good time is being missed a bit lately.

[@cervuscanadensis5634]

They’re all pretty self righteous... follow them for awhile and you wonder why they don’t run the pga, why they don’t run the tournament network coverage, tournament course setup, course design firms, etc..

[@TURKISHSAILORo]

Exactly!

[@ChayseGrizzell]

Yikes

[@patbligh4857]

another video ruined by watching Dj and Randy try to play golf

[@logantrisler1848]

Why is this the most backhanded review of all time?

[@calebadams5406]

Randy - we’re all terribly sorry you had to play Payne’s Valley. Seriously bro, drink a coffee or something. Get the guy a Snickers.

[@joey5picks]

Looks like everything a golf course shouldn't be. It's like a steakhouse that only sells 96oz Tbones and 48 oz Bud Lights...because they can and it's all they'll be remembered for

[@goldenmonkeycolor]

yall be spoiled as hell. i just heard the first podcast ever (i think) that just talked shit on jacksonville golf. florida sucks- but you have no idea- try louisville, ky for public courses- you'll often find yourself in indiana tennessee, ohio, missourri finding good public golf. Not saying there isn't any- but nothing anywhere close to this level. I caddied at valhalla for 3 years and got to play it a bit. The best in Louisville, nothing like the stuff you all play

[@tadlehmann1906]

Enough with the kid gloves. You hated the place. Just say so

[@brunostarnino9428]

Nice commercial

[@NoLayingUp]

Clearly did not watch the entire video.

[@brunostarnino9428]

@@NoLayingUp from beginning to end. Like all of your videos.

[@stevenhughes7880]

I think Randy using words like “superficial” is fairly damning. Not to mention referring to it not having “character”

[@EthanHart]

How was your takeaway from that video that is was shill job for the course? That was as negative a course review as they have done.

[@fredhunt2752]

Sorry but this course IS NOT worth $450 green fees, it's all about the who built it!!