Chino Moreno x Davey Havok I Band vs Band

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NME sits down for a joint interview with Deftones frontman Chino Moreno and AFI's Davey Havok to ask them how they met, and discuss their love of The Cure and favourite music
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[@MiBzAn]

Old AFI and old Deftones would've been nuts together.. love this. ❤

[@foosdontcry]

Chino and Davey are fans of The Cure... And I am a fan of Deftones, AFI, and The Cure

[@ForsakenUnderling]

Mur6er6oll6 same!

[@niles8102]

ME TOO!

[@coreyhumble1911]

Yep to all.

[@DarkStarGSK22]

Yes yes yes!

[@henryflores3602]

I 🖤 all three bands!

[@lukerodriguez]

Chino Moreno, Davey Havok, and Billy Corgan all being in the same space is too much for my mind to take. Imagine a collaboration between all of them

[@laurisaarinen1126]

Billy Corgan? Where is he in this video?

[@davidstanley9543]

@@laurisaarinen1126 : He's referring to the story they were talking about when AFI performed with Chino and Billy standing side stage watching their performance.

[@smeagle3295]

@@laurisaarinen1126 he is in the audio....

[@rocket83cs]

The Art of Drowning and White Pony defined the year 2000 for me!

[@bobbybarrett7475]

So much! Both bands achieved the apex of "cool" as far as I was concerned.

[@radbro24]

rocket83cs nice profile pic. Fly off on little wings

[@EDeeire]

In shadows growing wings... 🤘🏽

[@coreyhumble1911]

fucking agreed.

[@blackspring3207]

that's whats up

[@angelurbina8158]

They look like children from different class rooms meeting together after like, a soccer game.

[@jbasti227]

Man hearing Chino on an AFI song or Davey on a Deftones song would be incredible

[@dcblunt666]

Davey's chin might hold the secrets to the universe.

[@tunapole]

DC Blunt I think you’re right, and so far, we’ve learned there’s a hole in the earth.

[@XXthekingofyouXX]

If not, those secrets might lie in one of Chino's chins.

[@jexmelanje1125]

Finally

[@Ottophil]

Steph carpenter. The earth is round like chino

[@jamie2397]

Its so rad watching Chino, my all-time vocalist, talk about a band that he loves, when I'm such a big fan of The Cure too. Will never get over Deftones' cover of If Only Tonight I Could Sleep - never fails to transport me to another world.

[@jbmp1390]

Jamie Chipps Hell yeah man. To me no one tops Chino vocally, never fails to give me goosebumps. But in my opinion no one can top the Deftones in general. And you are so right about their cover of If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, absolutely mindblowing. Interesting side note about that performance, as Chino said it was for when MTV did an episode of ICON for The Cure, and afterwards according to Abe I believe, The Cure told them they were the ONLY band that actually did them justice. To me that says ALOT about how talented they are.

[@levyadamus7508]

I am absolutely in love with that live cover, too. And I feel the same way while listening to it

[@hutche]

Isn't Davey the nicest man alive... God Bless them both

[@markgonzalez7716]

Chino is out here looking like someone's tio. 😂

[@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506]

He's the good rocker tio of everyone

[@DarkStarGSK22]

This is too accurate mi tio! haha 😂

[@elreydeloschangos]

💀

[@drake333able]

He's the cool tio who got the kick it pad in West Covina with the chill garage and the fire pit in the back yard.

[@josephmorales652]

He probably is haha

[@nicklausbooks1593]

Davey and his rugged grace. Like an Elf that brawls and crochets. Awesome dude.

[@sadboysolari4891]

Seeing these two men brings so many emotions to me, both of their bands changed my life and I've followed them for decades.

[@scootergrammy727]

Same

[@callmejakob]

Damn. I've gotten so much older, but I've liked Deftones and AFI since I was a teenager. They're such different bands with different sounds, but it's awesome to see the respect they have for eachother. Davey and Chino are both great dudes.

[@GloomyShroom-mg8ee]

Deftones & AFI tour pleaseeeee!!!

[@tinab1311]

OMG YES

[@seanonthespectrum8724]

They toured together in the UK a few years ago. Saw them together in Glasgow and it was absolutely amazing!

[@ExaltedMarauder]

Deftones, Anti-Flag, Rise Against, AFI, August Burns Red, Killswitch Engage, Whitechapel and As I Lay Dying. That would be a great large tour no one saw coming, and would be such a massive success. Have it be an all day event 12 pm to 11 pm. 45 minutes for each band to play.

[@andrewkeegans1]

@@seanonthespectrum8724 I was at that gig too

[@triariicat8448]

Why does Davey always look like he’s hitting on everyone he has a conversation with?

[@tanner6538]

Hahahah I was wondering why no one else had made this observation/comment. Do you feel at all like he's a little condescending in his body language? Like he's being engaging but somehow it's kinda little self-serving?

[@nellanellaperched6767]

@@tanner6538 yeah 100%

[@tanner6538]

​@@nellanellaperched6767 Thank you! I hate that. It's subtle, but it's just enough to make me question how likable he is. I started to feel the same way about Brandon Boyd from incubus too sometimes.

[@silverbat5873]

No, it's called being fully engaged

[@Nick-Nasty]

Lmao he really does

[@brybaby89]

Davey's jaw line fascinates me. I've loved AFI for the past 14 years and it's crazy how tiny (but ripped) he is now.

[@spookinari1524]

Ahahahaah same here! Yeah true he used to be so big (upper body) and it looked good too. I just prefer his overall look back then but he aged amazingly well

[@chelsy3323]

My two favorite singers!! I love them so much!!!

[@irishjoe2941]

These guy’s and their band mates nailed those The Cure covers!

[@jlayton2335]

please release more footage of this if you have any

[@DavidEitle]

all the raw footage.

[@PeaceNLiebe]

Right!

[@luissilva8324]

Chino looks like a chubby Dave Batista.

[@grungeboy93]

JESUS I NEVER NOTICED TILL NOW. I'll never be able to unsee fat Batista now.

[@foosdontcry]

So true 😂😂

[@B-Bro-pg9qh]

I can never unsee this damnit

[@Fatfit2]

bwahahaha

[@drowjack]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@FeralVeganFemme]

I would give a lot to be a fly on the wall in a room with Billy,Chino, Davey and the cure.

[@GyroLamb]

One thing they all have in common is there's something dreamy about them all.

[@FranklinBeaumont]

I watched you chaaaaaaaange

[@autumnvolume4181]

SP and AFI have been my top 2 favorite bands for over a decade now, I'd probably sell my first born to have that experience - and Chino is the cherry on top.

[@lucasargandona4658]

Gosh don't forget John Frusciante and the RHCP

[@SilverFlame819]

This conversation really makes me want to see The Cure again before they stop touring...

[@kristenm.schwartz3206]

Two frontmen of bands that defined me in high school! 💀💜💀💜💀💜

[@DRyan-mx5jj]

I remember everything they talked about lol I’m 45 and grew up with MTV and vcr’s, cassette tapes etc

[@miksupreme]

Chino is so socially awkward but he can still handle the camera! 💕

[@HedeccaTamer]

@Junior Sanchez Don't do that in a comment section you dirty bastard

[@kiddink5167]

@Junior Sanchez still respect bro, imagine finding a baddie that likes deftones😔

[@kiddink5167]

@Junior Sanchez same goes for you and ur loved ones❤️🤝 happy new year bro

[@NOTneomatt]

In a way, adds to the charm? :]

[@BrandonChaunceyOfficial]

They match energy. Davey is too intense, Chino is too airheaded. But they created a nice balance, in a weird way.

[@myksbox]

Chino is an absolute icon. Cool as hell too

[@NOTneomatt]

Right?? I would sooo adore a convo with him!

[@6lu5ky86]

Why am I only just seeing these two in a room together. Both of their bands shaped my formative teenage years and both were a pleasure to listen to daily.

[@trinity3422]

This is awesome seeing two rock legends from somewhat opposite ends of the spectrum, AFI hard punk and Deftones almost emo metal 🦾

[@thomasrivera1749]

Chino Moreno...love of my life

[@defmike5580]

Chino Moreno wearing a 'Pink Floyd: The Wall' pin! Awesome!

[@MRSINISTER51]

I Love Deftones. One of my favorite bands other than Alice n Chains. AFI is pretty cool too wish I could see them perform live

[@jgc_dosdiez]

you have good taste my friend 👍

[@NOTneomatt]

Yesss. AIC!! Layne Staley's voice and spirit lives on.

[@dioscurihan]

oh i LOVE chino talking about depeche mode! there's nothing better than seeing your faves talk about your other faves with such reverence!

[@jesseseogeek]

Them being friends makes me so happy

[@meghangrande1381]

Speaking of cassettes, now I feel old!

[@Lux0001]

Chino and davey being all wholesome

[@bonniebuckner3399]

Scared of AC/DC records LOL

[@brentmason9415]

Chino is such a fucking legend.

[@NOTneomatt]

Yesss

[@HawnCherryBlossom]

I’d love to see both Deftones & AFI on the same bill 😍🤤🤘🏼🎶

[@FinaleMoFantasy]

Man..Davey still looks fine till this very day...It's like he gets better with age lol I remember when I first seen AFI on the T.V doing the "Miss Murder" song, and when I seen him I was like that's my future husband lol... *sigh* a girl can dream... #PISCESPROBLEMS

[@a.e.rromero5403]

I think it's cz he eats so well. He's been veg for a long time.

[@spookinari1524]

Dude same I just discovered AFI (rip my entire childhood and teenagehood) and I find him SO attractive in 2002-2006 like damn. Now he is more mainstream but still hot af, he aged so well. Secretely dream of our wedding lmao

[@spookinari1524]

Also im a cancer so yeah #watersignsproblems

[@livmilesparanormalromanceb6891]

He works out and eats vegan. His telomeres are immortal at this point.

[@TheMattJacks]

Chino, youll never see this, but fwiw, your voice took a pistol out of my mouth when I was 17.Thank you. You found me. You saved me. Glory to SOURCE!!

[@synesthesia.aesthetic]

These two men have saved my life ❤❤❤

[@Mariojohan4665]

Holy shit, amazing mashup. Thanks NME

[@XXthekingofyouXX]

There's something reassuring about seeing two rock Gods reveal they're music dorks like myself.

[@svdderdvze6070]

Love when Davey talks about being deceived by Grateful Dead’s artwork. Same bro. Same.

[@squeegied3rdeye713]

I could listen to these two geek out over music for hours on end

[@TyDie85]

It's so cool to see musicians talk music. I do it today, but it's still cool to see other musicians talk music.

[@jocefjose6004]

Ahhh Chino still cool all this time and his fineness evolves as he ages.

[@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506]

I really love the gothic dressing style of Davey

[@margiecan2]

I love this!!!!! This is exactly how I learned songs, by putting pause on the cassette and writing lyrics down. I love both these men!!! ❤❤❤

[@13ranzz]

Two of my favorite vocalist. Along with Maynard from Tool/A Perfect Circle. We know Deftones/Tool have a song together. But I would have loved to see A Perfect Circle/AFI do something. Sing the Sorrow.. Davey long hair. Mer de Noms.. Maynard long hair. They had a similar vibe around that time.

[@projectmorf]

I met Davey in 2003 in NY, truly lovely chap ✌️

[@nopal87]

add Brandon Boyd in there and my teenage dream is all set.

[@nocturnalflare8457]

Watching both of them talk about Depeche Mode and nit pick their discography was fucking cool. I love that I now love the artists that the artists I grew up listening to, grew up listening to lol DM are supreme. I wish Deftones' covers made it to the albums

[@mannyurbina9568]

Always loved deftones before KZbin before MySpace lol just a high school kid with there cds and always listened to deftones the cure pornography album and depeche modes violator album and I'm so happy and feel full circle that chino loves those bands makes me fee cool hahaha

[@mezzripper5708]

Manny Urbina wow man.... You were so cutting edge

[@saltpeter7429]

I have tried to talk up AFI to some of my musician friends, but they aren't into it. Like the Deftones, either you are willing to get it or not. Both bands can be easily simplified as far as there early offerings, ie, new metal, post punk, but they also are rare examples of bands who evolve with every record and are brave and creative in the sense that they will take risks to explore new musical scenario's. I have great respect for both of them, and of course I have my favorite era of both of them. What I respect is that they are not doing this for me, or money, or anything other than there musical integrity. A band willing to challenge fans. Both Deftones and AFI fit that description. STEPH and JADE are particularly inspiring, they are looking for new sonic landscapes, as a shitty bedroom guitar plunker I have great admiration for both.not quite unsung hero's but close.

[@bobby_devil]

*If You Want Blood not Let There Be Blood. ...excellent record either way.

[@sebastianrojas6523]

Two amazing vocalists

[@eyepatchplease]

gotta love that the segment following "their love of the cure" is "music they grew up with" and they're still talking about the cure

[@lyxiagaming]

My god, two of the best voices I have ever heard in music

[@samthompson1843]

I am a total mark for both Deftones and AFI(even the DecemberUnderground era) and the fact these 2 are good friends is so awesome to see.... sucks being late to the party but glad i saw this

[@jdoom8636]

That's so funny about the dead! I felt the same way when I was a kid!

[@Branchofsin]

Davey looks so different compared to how I remember him looking. Love both of these guys♡

[@mariancastro9309]

Chino I love you!!! Well I love Deftones, Crosses, Team Sleep anything Chino

[@traceyheartschino7572]

I agree

[@chicanapunkLA]

Damn I remember I first saw Chino on a 3 a.m. channel that would pass low-budget Punk videos, he was so skinny and then when he got famous he just blew up literally

[@YouShookItThreeTimes]

@cat girl I think Rob Zombie said it best.When you're starting out in music,you can afford a slice of pizza.When you make it in music you can buy the whole thing. (something to that extent)

[@skr4mzz]

chinos voice is so calming

[@tk7977]

Chino has to be one of the chillest individuals.

[@TheMattJacks]

Chino looks good fat. Looks good skinny. Looks good in-between. Chino is a once in a lifetime talent. Through his lyrics, we KNOW his heart. He is a warrior poet. A divine lightning strike. A bolt of Zeus in human form. Look up "BLOODBATH." CHINO AND POLYPHIA. SOLID GOLD.

[@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506]

Chino is a really cool guy, I like his attitude.

[@rachelray4040]

I think we all did that back in the day with cassette tapes. You would play the tape and pause it to write down the lyrics and sometimes would have to rewind it 100 times to figure out what the singer’s saying hahaha. Takes me back.

[@YouShookItThreeTimes]

@Rashelle Ray I know I did.

[@averyashbaugh7288]

Two of my favorite bands

[@MDestron2282]

Two of my heroes at the same time... Daaaaamn!!!!!

[@davidhernandez8190]

Davey has been always polite

[@Nick114K]

Like Davey, I also mark time by his hairstyle.

[@Lizard1582]

so cool. they're about the same age and both grew up in nor cal.

[@B4RGU3ST]

I want those chairs lol

[@mattlewis6517]

I bought Cypress Hill's Black Sunday on cassette from a gas station for like four dollars back in the day. We didn't have any music stores where I grew up so we had to just get what we could when we could.. I got Around The Fur from the same place later on. Man, good times.

[@DanielRodriguez-eh1qd]

I remember I got to go through the backstage entrance into Warp Tour years back. While walking through the backstage area there was a weight bench and Davey and a few others were there working out. I wish I could’ve asked him for a picture or autograph.

[@alipie1726]

Deftones and a fire inside.. Ahhhh those 2 are still awesome to listen to.

[@Tupapaperro777]

Two of the biggest power bands

[@daveof59]

AFI: First 5 albums > everything else.

[@DoughyBoy]

This is such an awesome series!! So excited for more

[@shaquilleobrien5722]

Two Northern California legends

[@onnovdw]

such a pleasant conversation

[@jlrosenthal1125]

I’m calling them out. The Billy Idol video they were talking about was Dancing with Myself.

[@swichapt4998]

I could not believe if this video was real, it was. I love it.

[@cosmiccatzen]

Chino talking about going into Kmart to look at cassettes is the purest thing!

[@stacikurbis5361]

They’re both just so dreamy 😍 #dreamboats

[@truckingwithtobee]

2 of my favorite lead singers!!!! I’ve met both. Both so nice!!!

[@benjaminhennessy8050]

This would have been my favorite KZbin video in high school.

[@marietourniquet]

❤❤❤ I looove this!!! Saw Chino in June in Houston, and it was one of the best nights of my life. I'd love to see these two on tour together.

[@TejanoBarrera]

Marie Tourniquet Me too. That was an unforgettable night. I loved when they played Teething.

[@NOTneomatt]

How lucky!!

[@LOSTOCEANEXPERIENCE]

Two legends

[@odin2823]

Pink Floyd The Wall button "Hammers"- cool

[@tofutoughtalk]

I thought it was an Earth Crisis pin haha

[@thSeventhLetter]

Noticed thPin 5 mins in Awesome .

[@derekwhite9932]

Kevin P, great call! Love it!

[@PeppermintEgo]

Wouldn't it be amazing if these guys formed a supergroup? I'd love to see it.

[@dsharp7441]

why can I never find ppl to hold convos like this with?

[@beckyroberts5299]

I love watching this---I don't feel so alone and old. Great times, too.

[@adamhurt612]

Omg my 2 fav bands, who did this, thank you!

[@jimmythepirate494]

I remember getting a VCR when they first became available. An overpriced nightmare when they arrived lmao!

[@jdsimz8147]

I so want those chairs! I love that color.

[@ThomCoe]

Not only did Davey get the lyrics wrong to "100 words", he also got the song title wrong to "100 words". It's "One Hundred Years".

[@jbmp1390]

I'd give just about anything to be able to sit and chill with Chino like this and just talk about music.

[@PathologicallyIncurious]

Gen Z’ers watching this video 👁👄👁 while they talk about VCR’s, cassettes, and KMart.