No Aliens? Joe Rogan & Brian Keating

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[@projectcolonialviper2094]

That's a big call! 100 billion stars in the Milky Way, we estimate 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe - sure no life anywhere but on our tiny planet...

[@Cobbido]

And you can probably multiply that amount several times outside of the observable universe

[@77dris]

This sort of argument is a non-sequitur: "The universe is big, so there has to be life other than ours". Why?

[@projectcolonialviper2094]

@@77dris I say why not? To me it's an argument based on probability, given the sheer numbers of stars and planets that by extrapolation are calculated to exist. From what we know the laws of nature are believed to be universal - so again why not? If this planet is the only source of life in the entire universe, then what an awful waste of space, time and effort!

[@jackfoubert.]

Because its here if its here it could and is every where. WE just have not found it.@@77dris

[@taran5209]

@@projectcolonialviper2094 good point

[@Al-Storm]

That was the least scientific way to propose there's no life in the universe. We're still discovering moons in our solar system, nevermind planets across the universe. We don't even know if the universe is infinite or not.

[@brandonmacey964]

You aren’t contending with his idea.. ever seen Dune? There was life on that planet.. do you realize it makes ZERO SENSE that earths neighboring planet has no life and Earth is like Noah’s ark x1000000? This guy is a science professor who was up for the Nobel.. what was “unscientific” about his argument exactly? Does science require you to believe in aliens?

[@user-ji6dc5xl5h]

@@brandonmacey964 it makes zero sense that theres no life on our neighboring planets ? How about the atmospheres being deadly 😂an it being to hot or to cold …..at least for human life

[@brandonmacey964]

@@user-ji6dc5xl5h the atmosphere is deadly to HUMAN life.. think.. the bottom of the ocean is also deadly to human life.. is there no life there?? Patience grows thin with insolence

[@brandonmacey964]

@@TinyTardigrade460 it’s ok my friend, some people are midwits.. I’ll try it slow.. there is no good reason why mars should not have some form of alien life.. it’s right next to earth in the Goldilocks’ zone.. yet there is no life on mars that we know of.. earth by contrast, right next door, is spilling over with so much life that we can’t catalogue all the species, we discover new ones everyday… is it sinking in yet?

[@user-ji6dc5xl5h]

@@brandonmacey964 did you not see the part where i said “human life”? Im Just saying it makes sense that there isn’t life on the other planets , btw about 3-4 years ago scientist did say they found microbs in venus’s atmosphere, pretty sure it was venus , so thats coollllio

[@masonhancock5350]

Scientists in the 19th century were convinced that trains exceeding certain speeds would cause a vacuum in the cars and kill the passengers.

[@wolfgangkranek376]

Actually no, they didn't.

[@user-kf7ov2fi4h]

They have all been brainwashed by the their God, chain smoking German who apparently had all the answers to the universe, chainsmoking & doodling math equations in his office = the uncovering of everything in the universe, it's really sad that modern scientists refuse to look at new ideas , but basing literally everything they do on Einsteins THEORY of relativity....his THEORY.... Do better guys...stop being cult followers, and do some real science....nobody cares how stressed bulaga whales are pal

[@billdoor3140]

Those "scientists" were the David Icke , Alex Jones, David Handcock of the day....

[@allankjohansen]

Cars?

[@ThePeachtree69]

1911ish astronomers told The NY Times and they printed on the front page that Martians were building canals on Mars. Likely for moving goods and products around.

[@wizzelhoart]

"get to the point Junior!"

[@garycarder4363]

Could be the best time to break the power grid

[@koolkeef]

We haven't found life on Mars; therefore, the idea that life exists on any other of the trillion to the eighth power rocks in the universe is highly optimistic? That makes as much sense to me as "the unit next door to my apartment is vacant, I predict therefore that no one else lives in this building, or block, or city..." Nevermind that next door is really just a utility closet.

[@michabryza9451]

You just said the dumbest shit ever. No life on moon therefore no life on any other planets😂 totally ignored the fact each planet is way different properties, weather conditions etc and you compare it to a fkn unit next door 😂😂😂

[@CHIMPmanHE]

Hit the nail on the head. 😂

[@HawaiiFundayTours]

this "doctor" sounds just like Neil De...whateverthefuck...the rest of his non-scientific stance is...

[@Hail_Sagan]

That's kinda like, "The iphone was created, therefore the Earth must have been created too" argument, right?

[@Hail_Sagan]

@@HawaiiFundayTours Yeah "deGrasse Tyson" is difficult to remember... The problem with UFO fanatics (lets face it, that's what this is about), is that they won't accept anything as "true" other than someone confirming that their alien visitation fantasies are true.

[@tophersonX]

Mars is obviously not the same as earth. But there will be cosmic numbers of planets out there that are much more like earth.

[@brandonmacey964]

Mars is SO MUCH like earth.. it resembles DUNE. If life were so persistent, it should be there

[@user-eh2id5wi2z]

"...but there WILL be..." That's a statement of faith, not science, as it has not yet been proven that there are...

[@tophersonX]

@@user-eh2id5wi2z the 6k known exoplanets show earth to be in a continuum, in size and orbit time. There are estimated at least one planet per star system and earth element composition dustribuition is not unusual. Life began only a billion years after the earth formation. What else do we need to know to bet the earth not to be in a unique situation?

[@tophersonX]

@@brandonmacey964 with giant earth worms and all

[@brandonmacey964]

@@tophersonX what else do we need to know? I gotta see the little green men, or some slime.. show me alien life

[@rbeach8200]

There might or might not be Aliens in space. But they're definitely Aliens on earth.

[@Morgan-yl3ou]

...and inside and and on the back of the moon Theres cities there......armstrong etc came back shocked in 1969

[@jimmystrickland1034]

We are the aliens, to other aliens.

[@billdoor3140]

😂

[@ELChamuco-ug7tf]

There are extraterrestrial aliens on the moon, Antártica, the volcano just outside of Mexico City, and other places on the Earth.

[@saltyvet5751]

The insanity and Hubris of thinking that we understand even remotely enough to even make a statement like that.

[@dpclerks09]

Hubris is the strongest drug known to Man. So strong that most don't realize how high they are off of it. Hidden in Plain Sight.

[@JohnCrichton]

It's called arrogance

[@saltyvet5751]

@@JohnCrichton love the name..

[@jonsegerros]

Ego, more like. Modern Scientism and Science is just Ego.@@JohnCrichton

[@JohnCrichton]

@@jonsegerros when you make outlandish claims like he is it's more arrogance than it is ego. An ego would mean that you would be smart enough to know that it's not true. This guy isn't smart enough therefore it's not a egos

[@avader5]

My mother worked at Wright Patterson Air Force Base from 1943 to 1963. Yes she was there during the Rosswell incident. At no time did she indicate to me that there were any extra-terrestrials. Inter-dimensional beings, yes. Extra-terrestrials, no.

[@fubey8x]

WOW DUDE COOL STORY OH MAN SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION WHOAAAA

[@chunter123]

Inter-dimensional= spiritual beings.

[@SPAZZYok]

I don't think they would've checked with your mom before checking in a alien or spacecraft. Debris was specifically flown there after Fort Worth in 1947 so then how old is your mom anyway? Lol Perhaps look into what Senator Goldwater said to General Curtis Lemay about the "blue room". There is a whole underground complex under there.

[@Gamer-dude247]

Interdimensional beings landed in Las Vegas backyard, i 100% believe the family who reported it. At first i just had a theory around 30 years ago that aliens were not from other planets but were interdimensional and recent evidence, comments & whistleblowers have confirmed my hypothosis.

[@jasonfreese2654]

Maybe she didn't have clarification to know that information working there and knowing people that are in special groups or Clearance of any kind..Silence was big back then most probably feared for there lives or families lives..just saying

[@paints_his_shirt_red]

“I got this at the South Pole Gift Shop”. I wonder what it’s like working there during the busy season? Pretty hectic I imagine.

[@DanEslof]

life creation truth at our place

[@MetalRam]

check the cortisol levels of employees ear wax

[@Max_Flashheart]

Can confirm slime and mold evolved on at least 1 planet in this solar system.

[@surfingonmars8979]

They’re technically called republicans……

[@brandonmacey964]

No slime on mars? Mold? Mushrooms? Little sand worms? Makes zero sense.. where is all your life finding a way and evolving

[@surfingonmars8979]

@@turtletom8383 You are so right.

[@jasonolinger7585]

Defining one group by any word is in definition ignorance. I think you are either very naïve or you’re just looking for a reaction.

[@avader5]

@@surfingonmars8979 we here in Silicon Valley find your arrogantly presumptuous statement to be an indication of your ignorance about this subject!

[@deifor]

Imagine bears turning into whales.

[@andrewmccombs7347]

Imagine being a subatomic particle sitting on a speck of dust under the couch in someone's living room and pretending to know what the whole world is like... let alone the solar system, let alone the galaxy...

[@Hughesburner]

Imagine a spec of sand, forming with other specs of sand, completely on their own...into a cellphone. It's like that.

[@andrewmccombs7347]

@@HughesburnerThat's illogical. I think that's your point.

[@garyrigby21]

bears!

[@a-walpatches6460]

This is the cup of water argument. I took this cup of water from the sea to show you that there are no fish in ocean, here's my data.

[@TheTroofSayer]

I'm gobsmacked whenever intelligent people suggest with a straight face that life elsewhere in the universe is highly unlikely. Firstly, the problem of entropy - the creation of complexity (life, matter) cannot be disengaged from the persistence of complexity across time. If complexity (life, matter) can be created, and we (as life) are here to hold it in our hands, then we can do so only because complexity (including life) does, in fact, *persist* across time. Astronomers confirm, correctly, that matter (esp. CHNOPS) exists and persists throughout the cosmos. And, armed with a proper understanding of the nuances of entropy (this is critical), we can thus conclude that the *predispositions* that exist over here, also exist over there, stars and galaxies away. We thus need find only one place in the universe where life exists (and persists), to conclude that this is a living universe. Where is that one place? We're standing on it. We can stop tormenting ourselves... this is, without a doubt, a living universe. Neither God nor fairies nor woo required. And then there's panspermia. Seriously? So an asteroid hurtling through the frozen darkness of empty space has a higher likelihood of containing the molecular building-blocks of life than does a warm, sunny planet within a star's habitable zone? Then there's MINUS 80 degrees Mars, with atmosphere 100 times thinner than Earth's. The non-existence of life there doesn't prove a thing. Then there's Dr Keating's reference to the Drake equation wrt intelligent life. Why have we not encountered aliens? ROI. Return On Investment. It will take the 1974 Arecibo transmission to globular cluster M13, a measly quarter of a galaxy away, 500 centuries to receive a reply. Any society that attempts to realize such a pointless project deserves to go extinct.

[@getlost3346]

As Carl Segan correctly asked. Why are there reports of aliens with humanoid forms; fingers, two arms, two eyes/ears, one torso, one head, two legs/feet? That part is odd. It's so implausible a similar evolution to human form could have occurred in another star system. I agree with Segans clear observation.

[@Chaelsonen]

Honestly if they use the term "highly unlikely" im not even that offended, because with the scope of everything that would be basically a guarantee that it exists in multiple places, this just seems like a hot take with horrible logic behind it

[@Biosynchro]

Life is rare, but it certainly exists elsewhere. BTW when you say that God is not required, that's a non sequitur. I don't understand how a living universe leads to 'no God required'. Would a dead universe require a God?

[@MetalRam]

time? bwahahaha

[@arranodoherty4372]

​@@getlost3346maybe to appear less threatening

[@HollywoodSnob_]

22 billion earth-like planets in our galaxy alone... and if the whole universe would have the size of our earth, our galaxy would have only the size of a sand corn. to think that there is no other life in the universe is just nuts.

[@the.trollgubbe2642]

Trillions of galaxies.... But only life here ?

[@godbyone]

Yes

[@myronhelton4441]

All people only believe in these 2 thoughts. Which One of these 2 thoughts below do you think is true? Do you think that tadpoes expanded into thinking people out in the universe, like many people believe that happened here? Or do you believe a super being created life elswhere, without telling us about it?

[@the.trollgubbe2642]

@@myronhelton4441 I believe we are created by dna modification by extraterrestrials, maybe the aliens came from tadpools

[@Eelis0]

Dr Keating pulled that "mars rock" gift from his back yard that morning. But it's the thought that counts!

[@brandonmacey964]

EL OH EL I am very dubious about “space rocks”

[@goodfarmily4828]

Are there aliens? Whales have ear wax.

[@absolutelyreel8795]

Disingenuous argument as key difference between Mars and Earth is, Earth still has a strong magnetic field and Mars does not.

[@karlgoebeler1500]

I wouldn't worry about that. Been here the whole time and we are not dead.

[@goodfarmily4828]

helicopters flying around the mars. Here's a piece of garlic toast from mars I found in my backyard.

[@davidgalea6113]

Why does a rock from antartica cost 50k?

[@SlyMaelstrom]

Because, you the taxpayer, are paying for it and what the hell do they care about what you do with your money?

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@SlyMaelstrom Oh no. You went and did it - introduced accountability and the expectation of financial return. Shame on you. Science is supposed to be "pure" and we are supposed to hand over whatever cash the government funded science "community" desires in order for them to pursue their science fantasy wet dreams. Didn't you know that?

[@davidgalea6113]

Now that I think about it, maybe he was referring to the total cost of acquiring it which would include the flights/travel plus all the other expedition costs?

[@mylesraymond7364]

Dr Keating: “Here’s an actual piece of Mars.” Rogan: “So it’s an asteroid?”

[@danirizary6926]

Brought to you by the same chain of logic behind such great ideas like: Geocentric Solar System Young Earth Hypothesis Manifest Destiny

[@Nugemart]

Galileo Galilei shifted our opinion in an age of religious ignorance and paid a huge price. Giodarno Bruno paid the ultimate price. Science has a awesome way of proving the masses wrong and vindicating the minority.

[@0neIntangible]

Yes, true so far and let us hope that science as a whole keeps on the strait path, providing overall beneficial sustenance to our planet. And that same science should not lead to the destruction of life here, by purpose or accident, or the realm of science will revert to be considered as cursed practises once again.

[@thewildandtheweird]

Galileo was more a victim of politics during the counter-reformation than of religious ignorance (he was actually a friend of the Pope). Interestingly, Copernicus had no such problems with the church 70 years before, when he published his model. Giordano Bruno is often portrayed as a science martyr (as in the newest cosmos series) and what happened to him is inexcusable but his heretical doctrines went way farther than his cosmology. I am not religious at all and believe that the church contributed to the destruction of a lot of knowledge (especially of the ancient world, that had to be reintroduced in the west through the arab invasions) but it is hard to disentagle the scientific revolution from religion, before the 19th century.

[@0neIntangible]

@@thewildandtheweird Good comment!

[@chriswheeler6092]

It would be a mistake for our government or anyone else to try and give a single answer for so many different events. When I look at the footage that I find on the internet I think that the majority of them are explainable, but it would be wrong to tell the public that there was a Single explanation for all of the different events.

[@floridarealufo73]

I dunno about all those theories but I did record a flying saucer doing a flip and turn last night. You just have to look up.

[@Memphispally]

Wow. Sure am glad I got that question answered. I mean, I guess from the title there was something on the subject somewhere in all that. Just need to find it.

[@baits9301]

From dinosaur to humans and everything in between . If the conditions are right you should have life . Even if you take the cleanest water and leave it for a few months out side , it would be full of life .

[@Torquemada-su1cn]

"It's hard to prove a negative"..... Even ignoring that - for a Doctor, he doesn't do a lot of math.

[@Probabilityislife]

Either way, it's not human beings flying ufos.

[@davidsirmons]

Stay on topic.

[@makaiperry]

There’s a huge possibility that we’re not alone sorry but u alone on this one 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

[@frankscott350]

Or, you could posit the question to say, "what are the odds that life would not have arisen on other planets circumstanced like ours (Goldilocks Zone), particularly given our present understanding that such planets may number in the trillions? In other words, what occurrences proved so unique, unusual, or rare on Earth that the likelihood of them occurring elsewhere is so marginal that it becomes fundamentally illogical to discuss the probability? Conversely, given the presence of life on this planet, isn't the logical conclusion that life may in fact be characteristic of or ubiquitous among similarly situated planets at certain intervals of their existence, considering this is the only verifiable example we have? I'm not sure what Mr. Keating's intention was here, other than to speculate that because planets like Mars don't harbor life (as far as we know at this time), it's unlikely others will as well. Framing a question in this manner often reflects the unsubstantiated certainty that can be prevalent in the scientific community.

[@erickopecky3774]

Simply put, Mars has no magnetosphere to shield solar radiation and sustain an atmosphere that can maintain liquid water. Not the same.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Let's take our solar system, sans the Earth, were found in some other location. If an astronomer were to find it, it would be the biggest scientific news of our lifetime because of its similarity to our own, and yet there would be no life to speak of, no evidence of life forming in the past, present or future. All Dr. Keating is pointing out is....THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE known to us. None. Not the smallest shred of it.

[@NFawc]

And when one of the Viking life detection tests came up positive, and that test has not been repeated since? And we also have seasonal methane production possibly too?

[@Biosynchro]

Methane isn't necessarily a sign of life. Which raises very interesting questions...

[@NFawc]

@@BiosynchroTrue, but the Viking tests were metabolism tests, of which one came up positive. Again, not conclusive in itself, but interesting!

[@ZM-dm3jg]

The counter-point to the argument he's making is that life started on Earth very early in it's existence.. which tells us that the probability of life forming must be very high (otherwuse it would have formed billions and billions of years later)

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Sample size of exactly one isn't statistically credible. Clearly you do not understand statistical probabilities.

[@producerjc2941]

One of the biggest problems is assuming we know that life is uniformly similar across the Universe simply because we know what life is or what might be on Earth. For all we know, life could be in the form of energy or something entirely else that would be hard for us to comprehend. It might have a sophisticated form of intelligence. We can barely understand intelligence, what it is precisely, but we make assumptions that intelligence must only have one form just as life has to fit a certain mold in which is familiar to us. It's pure ignorance and also a bit of arrogance.

[@sburns2421]

Ironically the debate still exists if the meteor from 1996 shows fossilized evidence of Martian bacteria. Not impressed with him TBH. Not because I may disagree with his position on ET, but because he tried to be clever in the Mars-Earth comparison in light of the asteroid debate. Surely he knows about it.

[@andrewgibbs7099]

I think we are so primitive and so far down the line, we would not see intelligent life anywhere around us. It’s easy to hide…. We act like we are smart.

[@tonyisnotdead]

we are the smartest speices to ever exist

[@jjkkjkkjl]

With about 2 trillion galaxies in the OBSERVABLE universe, it's insane to me to think life hasn't arisen on at least one other planet. Why would we be special?

[@CnRSPACE]

Funny to use mars as an example when we have had 3 experimental results to show that mars may still have life.....

[@robertphillips93]

Science does not understand why life is present on the Earth. That is not equivalent to saying that the probability of finding life on Earth (or another Earth-like planet) is very high. In fact, the probability of finding reason in humans is dismally low . . .

[@ResidentOfDunwich]

The Dinosaurs learned to travel into space.

[@ooglyga6100]

Everyone is a professional and everyone thinks they have the ultimate answer...just like the arguments of religion. I really hope people like this have their own terrifying encounter.

[@dbronze9622]

Mars does not have the magnetic field for protection as the earth, so how can we theoretically say it's exactly like the earth with no life.

[@joshuab4029]

dude wolves did not turn into whales. marine mammals are commonly known to be a type of ungulates. not that simply but they were once hooved animals not pawed animals.

[@goldeneddie]

You have a wonderful way of presenting ideas. Thank you.

[@TheYates27]

Brian is another really smart guy talking out of his ass. These scientists that say this stuff. Not only are they ridiculous, but it seems like they just don’t want it to be true. Too humbling maybe ?

[@beenalwhile1]

Didn't I see this guy on Looney Tunes

[@cuddywifter8386]

Remember when the entire scientific community dismissed the idea of rocks falling from the sky. Because it didn't fit it with the paradigm 😉

[@trevordelaney3144]

Did he just say that there is probably no life out there because there is no life in Mars? Someone should tell him that Mars is not in the 'habitable zone' and we would not expect life to be on a planet like Mars. He doesn't know what he is talking about, and Joe shouldn't have let him away with it 😒

[@DeadAgainLives]

Does this guy know how to party or what?! (Wayne's world reference ) meaning you're awesome !

[@darrentoffan4216]

I know I won't be believed, but I once saw an alien ship that looked like a giant, pale yellow egg that slowly pulsated: brighter, dimmer, over and over... And there were several other amazing things I noticed about it as well, however I fully understand and accept that I'll never be believed and that's just how it is.. but I know what I saw was NOT of human design. And I most definitely understand the skepticism from those who have never had a similar experience.. it's most definitely something that must be personally experienced since it's so outside normal everyday existence.. - D

[@gpower9129]

What he fundamentally missed, on purpose or not, is Joe Rogan gives you the time to explain it well to him

[@condelcos5734]

The Drake equations requires we assume infinite space but finite matter - why? Must have a finite amount of matter because we cant have infinite matter as it fucks the equation - infinite x infinite equals infinite, infinite divided by infinite equals infinite, ad infinitum

[@jamesburke9651]

We should verify if the claims of radio-isotopes of xenon on Mars were nuclear & thus sentiently caused. I'm Saying that it's just as likely that Mars is a screenshot of a civilization that failed the drake filter challenge if there is xenon like that on Mars. It's more pressing than photos of the face on mars.

[@VinchenzoC]

So, Mars is in the "life zone" so it should have life, but doesn't so that proves there's no other life? Isn't the size all wrong for gravity? I'm not buying his hypothesis just yet.

[@eonasjohn]

Thank you for your time. Dr. Keating.

[@Whittmike2011]

So, the Sahara dessert doesn't exist, because of all the vegetation and life that surrounds it?

[@francmittelo6731]

Existence needs to be proven. Consequently, the null hypothesis is aliens do not exist.

[@tomk.8146]

Why after dragging back to the question and forcing him to answer, did the video cut out. Annoying.

[@allantulli5546]

There are unexplained flying vehicles, they are not ours. There is life out there and it's more advanced than we are.

[@glennvage]

look a little harder because those exotic craft came from us.we know this.

[@terminator8767]

@@glennvage stop posting lies

[@terminator8767]

@@glennvage what we humans made can not go at such speeds and immediately change direction goverments over the world has released facts about this and military these unidentified things are not made by us humans.

[@glennvage]

@@terminator8767 oh,the governments said so...ok then,your'e right

[@terminator8767]

it is the fallen not aliens.

[@joeavelar2222]

C'mon...you're explanation to completely disregard any possibility is more fantastic than to believe there is life somewhere else.

[@StephenDedalus74]

I tend to think that there are odd things on Mars... Fossils of tiny creatures that lived there long time ago, and maybe even living things, beneath the surface... There are sooo many places on Mars no one has seen yet, with a closer look...

[@SoChillGamer]

We are not the only special life in this universe, or in our galaxy. The amount of galaxies out there and then planets is absurd. There is Aliens or other life somewhere out there

[@alaexanderhawkins6324]

I love the scientists whose entire reason for discounting the ETH is "they're too far away". I studied physics for five years at university and you know what I learned? I learned that the people living in every era thinks they know everything. But you know what? They don't know squat. We could be ten years away from a breakthrough in physics that renders rocketry obsolete. And when we have Alcubierre warp drives on every interplanetary ship leaving the Earth the people then will laugh at these videos and dogmatic scientists like Tyson who were so myopic they couldn't see the science emerging right from under their noses.

[@wolfgangkranek376]

"Imagine two planets that are basically the same..." Oh wait, one of them is way smaller and has only a thin atmosphere and no global magnetosphere to protect any live from radiation. But it may had live in the past, we don't know. What was the point again he was trying to prove?

[@funkaddictions]

Intelligent life most likely exists in the universe. The thing is, a whale is one of the most intelligent animals on Earth, but it does not transmit radio signals or anything that could idenitify it into space. Also, the immensity of the universe makes it very difficult to reach us even if advanced aliens wanted. Hell, we are so advanced and we can barely get a few astronauts to the moon without some shenanigans happening where they almost die. Why do we expect aliens to have some super duper technology where they can bend spacetime to their will? This doesn't mean life or even intelligent life doesn't exist. It's probably teeming with it. We just might never see it, unfortunately.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Where do you get your "most likely" from? It's obviously it's from your nether regions. Because there is simply no evidence supporting your claim.

[@Gamer-dude247]

'They' have been trying to close pandoras box since Roswell, but unfortunately for 'they', as we all know the story of pandoras box, 'they' can try and try to place everything back into pandoras box or try to cover it up, but it ain't gonna happen, pandoras box is open.

[@gawayne1374]

I would have actually used Venus and Earth. Mars gravity is too much smaller than Earth, so that it's been stripped to nothing.

[@IndianArma]

Venus is slightly off the habitable zone

[@drcurioustube]

​@@IndianArma Slightly 😆👍

[@gawayne1374]

@@IndianArma if you want to take an old approximation as dogma, sure. But Venus could be habitable if it's atmospheric composition where different. In fact, at high altitudes it's quite close to habitable

[@IndianArma]

@gawayne1374 that's not what I am saying. I agree that our aasumptions and conception of carbon based life and its survivability may be very limited and I am aware that the upper atmosphere of Venus has often demonstrated phantom signs of biosignatures, like methane, etc. The premise of Brian's question was specifically 'earth like', Venus is not rocky at the surface, although it may be continental, and is not within the habitable zone or goldilocks zones the habitability of which are very much a function of planet composition with respect to where they are present. For instance you may have a rocky planet but if it's so hot that the surface is magma then the core composition doesn't do much. The premise of Brian's question, while limiting (perhaps delibrately so to make a point), if accepted, eliminates Venus from.consideration.

[@gawayne1374]

@@IndianArma but Venus is rocky. It's only very hot because of a runaway greenhouse effect.

[@jasonkeating9958]

For me the problem with arguments like this saying there is unlikely any life in the universe because are systems would decect it, My problem is that they think that are most current technology is pretty incredible but I personally think that it's apsolute garbage tier level technology for making accurate detecting of alian life in far of places, In reality it's so bad that we can't even see another planet outside of our solar system except for sometimes a dot goes past a sun lol, the cold hard truth is that our very best systems and tech is completely useless for looking seriously into deep space.

[@rogerwilco1777]

We need to get to those moons that have liquid water around Jupiter and Saturn etc and start probin around.. if we can find even the smallest microbe there, then it should be safe to say the rest of the universe is teeming with life.. ..or maybe our solar system is a one a gazillion rarity and this is the only place life can exist? At this point its impossible to say, we need more data.

[@TheChrisleekay]

My gut feeling is that the Universe is absolutely teeming with life!! Much maybe primative but plenty intelligent to! We've only been looking for ET for 50 years ish and we've mapped a tiny proportion of whats up there!

[@peps4461]

With that mindset you dont deserve this Dr. Titel for whatever IT is

[@psisky]

We're living in a big mmorpg that's still being rendered.

[@hamptongray4860]

Who’s to say life never existed on Mars? Time is a crucial part of finding life outside of our planet, where the cross between our species not yet extinct meets another species, having not gone extinct yet.

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

Not this video again 😂 brian come on man. Mars and earth are not the same. Different everything.

[@andrewgibbs7099]

So out of three planets here, one or two had life at some point and one still does…. Life is everywhere folks…

[@MetalRam]

nonsense

[@Eyeballman24]

The universe is eternal, the big bang never happened. We need to stop projecting our own sense of mortality on the universe if we ever want to understand it.

[@ovechkin100]

NGL i was expecting a way more convincing argument, and it just sounded like something i expect to hear from one of my friends who doesnt know anything about anything. NGL its almost embarrassing to go on the JRE and spew this theory.

[@ashtar523]

So we can measure whale stress, fantastic. But it seems like even our "best" scientists needs to be reminded that our ability to observe the details of the universe, and even our solar system is equivalent to stargazing through a toiletroll. We are the goldfish in the fishbowl wondering if the fishbowl is all there is. And every time we see a little bit further, we create a new fishbowl.

[@tedgunderson67]

You’re missing a personal experience. A good sighting changes a worldview in an instant

[@chuckschillingvideos]

A good sighting of what?

[@tedgunderson67]

@@chuckschillingvideos a spacecraft that exceeds man’s understanding of physics.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@tedgunderson67 Be sure to let us know when you find one.

[@tedgunderson67]

@@chuckschillingvideos I as well as hundreds of thousands have encountered them, photographed them, estimated speeds. You’re 3000 years behind the curve, try and catch up.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@tedgunderson67 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sure you have. Good luck with that tenuous hold on reality. You're losing the battle.

[@plan9622]

So in analysis your opinion is based on the universe as the human mind understands it? Oh the pretensions of man🙄

[@sacr3]

Imagine we are on a planet 100 light years away from this planet, with our current technology we wouldn't know that Earth is inhabited. All of the radio waves sent out from Earth become indiscernible from background noise within five light years distance, being a hundred light years away we don't have telescopes that are able to detect any signatures, so we would simply assume that the universe is empty. I've always found the Fermi paradox to simply be a paradox based on our current physics and lack of understanding. Looking for radio waves makes no sense unless the individual that emitted the radio wave emitted it with incredible wattage directly towards our planet, then we on the receiving side would have to have a receiver, a dish the size of planet Earth to receive anything intelligible. That's not the case right now so of course we get nothing for radio waves. We also look for techno signatures based on our current physics, we are looking for Dyson spheres or Dyson swarms. This is also silly because there may be other venues of energy that we have yet to discover, so based on our current understanding of physics we assume that to have a lot of energy you would have to essentially harvest an entire planet and then use that to encapsulate a star so that we can convert the stars energy to something useful. If 0 point energy or something of that sort exists, then one would assume that by the time a species is advanced enough to mine an entire planet they would have most likely discovered a newer form of energy capture. I'm surprised that the so-called scientists aren't thinking outside of the box and simply place themselves in these boxes and assume that it is the truth. When individuals who do not work in the field can easily say that all of this is purely based off assumptions, that are purely based off are incorrect and incomplete understanding of physics today. This Brian fella has to open his mind a little more. There have been countless scientists throughout our history that believed their current theoretical physics work complete and correct, only to be completely wrong about that assumption. Just look at our past 10,000 years and you will see countless examples of us discovering physics, supporting it, and then it changing or adapting with time and ultimately being incorrect.

[@jeremytaflinger4212]

i read hippos are closest thing to whales

[@PearlmanYeC]

In Pearlman YeC SPIRAL cosmological redshift hypothesis and model's 'SETI sacked' and 'We are Special' we explain how/why near zero chance of advanced civ. anywhere else, and assuming a standard light speed communication limit, an even much lower than near zero chance of any such civ. being in contact with us. Reference Pearlman YeC at researchgate.

[@jeffw9232]

That's about equal to dipping a dixie cup into the ocean, looking into the cup of nothing but water, and declaring...No fish on this planet!

[@HeavyK.]

Over billions of years, what are the chances that separate life at about the same time?

[@Dan.50]

If advanced interstellar life exists then we should have observed it by now. We got nothing. The fact is until it is observed, we are it.

[@Cobbido]

Why should we have observed it? The distances involved are massive. Signals get muddled by background noise in a few light years. There could be thousands upon thousands of interstellar civlizations in this galaxy alone that lack the ability to detect each other. There could be millions of civilizations at a similar level to ourselves (we aren't interstellar) that wouldn't be able to detect each other.

[@standingbear998]

rogan is still lost and surprised by everything. falling for one of the biggest distractions ever. chasing aliens and bigfoot. I am 69 yrs old and my entire life the story has been the same with no real change and the question stills remains the same. where are they?

[@JuBerryLive]

I think when you are trying to make a point, some people (like me) lose the focus of your argument because you side track too much. I think you should be more concesise when trying to "prove" something to a layman. Like the "kardashian and bla bla" it's not necessary. Keep up the good work!

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

Didn't find city lights on a planet with this new telescope that just came out? Also, they found life on Mars in the 60's but hid it.

[@kennardjohnson7875]

New technology lol,these aliens have been around millions of years, we are aliens to them and probably been around a few hundreds of thousands of years.

[@kokomanation]

Mars is further away from the sun than Earth it has a much colder temperature and the mass of Mars is lower than Earth which means lower gravity to sustain similar atmosphere

[@tophrrr]

We've explored only 5% of our own oceans. Only about 25% of the seabed has even been mapped, and its not even the best resolution. We've discovered signs of life from tens of millions of years ago that was destroyed by what we assume to be a meteor. Even the Drake equation is anthropocentric and assumes things must be exactly as they are here. We just discovered liquid ocean underneath the ice on one of the moons in our own solar system. Only for the first time did we land on an asteroid to collect samples to see if it was dust or ice. It is hubris to assume that we are even qualified to make the assumption that there could not be life elsewhere; we can patch together some statistical guesswork but again, its fed by our limited understanding of the universe.

[@memeticist]

For those watching this with a skeptical take - which is fine to have - he left out the details of the best argument against the likelihood of widespread life on other planets. That would be the rare earth hypothesis, which was well explicated in the book Rare Earth Why Complex Life Is Uncommon in the Universe (2003). This asserts that while no one aspect of Earth is particularly unique the combination of factors is incredibly rare. For example, being located in the habitable zone on spiral galaxy. Those galaxies only constitute around 2% of all galaxies, and the habitable zone within those are rather small. Additionally, a rocky planet with plate tectonics is not necessarily common and the list goes on. Keating himself has pointed out that it would only take eight variables with a 1/1000 probability of occurring in a solar system for the probability of life to fall to with one order of magnitude of the number of planets in the universe.

[@freddykneechi1649]

Shut up nerd

[@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler]

This was a real stretch from younger Brian... mars lol 😂 these are two different sized planets on two different orbits and Earth is closer to the Sun and we have freezing water fall from the sky... what you should be saying is surface-dwelling life because it is apparent that most logical life would end up staying off the extreme surface... Have you any self-reflection on this in the now? Very well could be life under the surface of Mars.

[@gallinho7268]

My thoughts are: Single cell life in universe,100%, very common Multicellular life, from what I’ve learned is highly improbable and took over 3 billion years to jump from single cell on earth but it did so given the abundance of planets you would think it’s less common but still definitely exists. Intelligent multicellular life with opposable thumbs an the ability to build and also the ability to communicate with complex language, given all the species that have ever existed on earth we are the only ones then that must be rarer still and in a finite universe we may be one of the very few that exist. Technological Intelligent life that can travel the universe at or close to the speed of light without destroying themselves or depleting their home planets resources? May never happen given we are destroying our planet and no human has ever set foot on another planet yet. I used to think intelligent aliens would be everywhere but the more I look into what needs to happen for that to be the case the more I think we are super rare and even if beings like us are common, being able to have the resources and the time without facing any existential threats before figuring out how to travers the universe at near the speed of light, which is still super slow given the distances, means I think we will never meet or possibly know of any other civilisations before our demise.

[@That777GuyAgain]

You need to look at those odds of a single protein forming by chance again. Then you gotta ask how freewill exists and then ask how does reasoning work in a materialist universe.

[@UFOgamers]

Probabilities without data are just odds. Most of the parameters of the Drake equation are therefore just speculative.

[@waen606]

It's funny when so many scientists are actual believers in their own religion ..especially as the universe doesn't seem to always agree with our well honed equations ..If they were real scientists they would never form absolute conclusions ...we are learning more and more that we actually seem to rely on false or dubious data ...I absolutely support scientific method ..but personal beleifs have nothing to do with real science.