No longer neutral waters: What Baltic Sea strategy for Sweden after NATO enlargement? • FRANCE 24

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Күн бұрын

If you're wondering why Sweden and Finland broke with neutrality and joined NATO, just look at a map. Long before 2022 and Vladimir Putin's play for Ukraine's capital, Stockholm was already boosting its military, reintroducing a base on the strategic island of Gotland in 2018. Across the Baltic Sea lies the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad. We bring you an exclusive FRANCE 24 report from Gotland.
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@GiantJake
@GiantJake Ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate in depth discussions like this. Thank you France 24 for letting American's like me have real world news not just the next Trump disaster.
@scepticalwalker3984
@scepticalwalker3984 Ай бұрын
Agree, as a Swedish American I was astonished when I found out how difficult it is here in the US to follow international events in depth. Unless you know where to look you only get Trump/Biden bashing on the news.
@joiedevie3901
@joiedevie3901 Ай бұрын
Or the last one! Yes, thanks,
@Cloud-dq1mr
@Cloud-dq1mr Ай бұрын
@@scepticalwalker3984 As a Swedish American do you know a bit more specifically where you're from? Or know any swedish? Random questions from a curious Swede
@glenbolderson9279
@glenbolderson9279 27 күн бұрын
And here I thought Biden was moving the USA towards WW3. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡................
@hejnickhej
@hejnickhej 27 күн бұрын
@@scepticalwalker3984You guys don't get the info over there. EU is kinda fcked. US is an Island. Except for Alaska with its straight...
@maxruedy951
@maxruedy951 Ай бұрын
Hey Sweden welcome to NATO from your friends in Canada,glad to have you guys on the team.🇨🇦🤝🇸🇪
@Cloud-dq1mr
@Cloud-dq1mr Ай бұрын
Thank you Canada! Although being on the same team with you sounds strange, all I can think of is ice hockey rivalry 😅
@johnadam2885
@johnadam2885 Ай бұрын
Canada and Sweden are among the useless weaklings in NATO. Neither of you individually or collectively can match the Russians. Can they alter the outcome in Ukraine ? It seems to me after being defeated in Ukraine, NATO is chest beating about its prowess, only to ward off Russia giving a beating to a NATO country !
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 Ай бұрын
When will Canada join the team in actions and not mere words? It's been defence sponger since 1973. In 2023 a trove of leaked Pentagon secrets included Prime Minister Justin Trudeau privately telling NATO that Canada would _never meet_ the military alliance's targets for defence spending, the Washington Post reported. A blunt assessment stated 'widespread' military deficiencies in Canada that are causing friction with security partners and allies, reported the newspaper. Canada has faced criticism domestically and around the world fori ts refusal to meet NATO's spending expectations. Trudeau recently cut the defence budget by $210 million, and it's rumoured additional cuts of $1 billion are on the way. Canada is the only NATO member without a plan or a timeline to reach the alliance’s target of spending two per cent of GDP on defence.
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 Ай бұрын
Canada does not pay it 2% NATO bill .
@Cloud-dq1mr
@Cloud-dq1mr Ай бұрын
@@Crashed131963 Just a reflection, Canada has no real enemies and geopolitically they're pretty safe where they are. NATO is not an orgaisation that you pay bills to, you spend on your own internal defense budget. So two questions: - Who the f*ck are you to question Canada? - Evem if what you say is true, them just being a member is a huge boon to NATO Dont drink the Trump coolaid, look at the bigger picture
@yeshechangchub6914
@yeshechangchub6914 28 күн бұрын
germany.. “You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.” ― Leon Trotsky
@user-xq1wz3tp5z
@user-xq1wz3tp5z 15 күн бұрын
Comment while handing Lenin a ticket to Moscow?
@thestraightroad305
@thestraightroad305 28 күн бұрын
What a relief to know Sweden and Finland have added their strategic intelligence, strength and courage to NATO. As an American, I welcome this.
@starscream6657
@starscream6657 27 күн бұрын
Well it is nice to see Americans liking nato, i feel like some Americans dont like nato or maybe i am wrong
@thestraightroad305
@thestraightroad305 26 күн бұрын
@@starscream6657 Those who don’t like NATO don’t understand it…or history. I love Europe and would like to see it remain free, prosperous and strong.
@jimmyyates3510
@jimmyyates3510 25 күн бұрын
@@thestraightroad305some would just like to see Europe stand on its on feet.
@karl-niclasburner8451
@karl-niclasburner8451 Ай бұрын
10 years ago I would not have been in favor of joining, but Russia have changed that. Born in the 70´s and grew up in the 80´sduring the last period of the Cold War. I hade Hope for peace when the CCCP fell apart, but lost it more and more with Putins Russia.
@applemos6714
@applemos6714 29 күн бұрын
Same here. I wasn’t against NATO, but instead of joining I was rather for a strong national defense and more collaboration with Finland. Now things changed quite drastically. Since Finland wanted to join there was really no choice. It will workout for the best am sure. Most people supports this. I do too!
@roundlake96
@roundlake96 28 күн бұрын
Still not in favor for Nato but at the same time its not the end of the world that we joined. Just dont think there was any real need to join them other then industrial and economic ones. Sadly media made it look to most as if we needed Nato more then Nato needed us.
@donaldliden4545
@donaldliden4545 27 күн бұрын
Samma här
@GorillaTVe
@GorillaTVe 25 күн бұрын
10 år sedan var du smartare.
@GorillaTVe
@GorillaTVe 25 күн бұрын
Hysteria råder just nu bland folk och våra utokrater med sina aktieportföljer älskar det.
@peterjaniceforan3080
@peterjaniceforan3080 Ай бұрын
🇫🇮 🇸🇪🫡
@VonRix
@VonRix 29 күн бұрын
I think what Swedes realised that Russians in case of new conflict simply would not respect Swedish neutrality and invade Gotland, because this island is crucial for Russians to isolate the Baltic states. Swedes would have to fight anyway - for Gotland or just give it up - something they are not willing to do.
@rursus8354
@rursus8354 Ай бұрын
11:37: William Alberque: _"Sweden has a myth about itself ..."_ Happenstance nobody in Sweden believe in this myth, and hasn't for a very long time. Sweden was essentially non-aligned, not neutral, and that non-alignment included some pretty well known agreements with USA. The non-alignment was just a necessity to support Finland that was coerced into neutrality by the Soviets.
@k0mm4nd3r_k3n
@k0mm4nd3r_k3n Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more that William Alberque's comment is unhinged.
@scepticalwalker3984
@scepticalwalker3984 Ай бұрын
He is not wrong. Before the 90’s most Swedes believed in that “identity”, while the political and military leadership knew the reality and worked with the US, UK and Finland behind the scenes. Neutrality was an identity, not a reality. I am glad we left the hypocrisy behind.
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson Ай бұрын
They are not going to stop me going to Russia, so don't even try. If my flight from Sweden is denied I'll just biy a car and drive. Silly people. I make Rambo look like a netballl player!
@vilandar
@vilandar Ай бұрын
​@@DarrenJamiesonJamiesonif you find it difficult we can help you leave.
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson Ай бұрын
@@vilandar No worries. Remember my friend. The Angling Policeman. lol
@Phooenixification
@Phooenixification 29 күн бұрын
There are 64 000 shelters that can house approximately 7 million people. I have 82 shelters within a 1 km radius where the closest one is 2 minutes walk away.
@IMGreg..
@IMGreg.. Ай бұрын
These young people are delightfully optimistic and positive about mandatory service. This is needed in Canada. Sweden may have been nonaligned for years but they would have never faced the Russians alone. There would have been a Western uproar and violent reaction to Russian aggression against Sweden.
@peabase
@peabase Ай бұрын
Militarily non-aligned, and even that was debatable.
@Cloud-dq1mr
@Cloud-dq1mr Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for saying that, much appreciated. Especially from Canada!
@donaldliden4545
@donaldliden4545 27 күн бұрын
Not so sure probably there would been same talk about afraid to escalate things from many countries
@rubiconklbrutorowman7577
@rubiconklbrutorowman7577 Ай бұрын
Well, done France 24 English to lightening out these very important areas to the viewers of the free world!
@Andy108953
@Andy108953 Ай бұрын
Like Gunilla said the 'normal' for sweden is to actually a have a big army and a lot of conscripts, and as a well integrated total-defence plan with the civil-socity. There is actually a law that every apartment with more then 3 floors has to have a saferoom for the public, this is still implemented today when we build new buildnings.
@T1hitsTheHighestNote
@T1hitsTheHighestNote 15 күн бұрын
This is not true, haven't been for many years.
@Andy108953
@Andy108953 9 күн бұрын
@@T1hitsTheHighestNote Well we had a big standing army for a longer time then we've been demilitarized as recent times suggest. So i think you need to brush up on your history mate.
@sparklingwaters8990
@sparklingwaters8990 Ай бұрын
Swedes are smart!
@tayler2396
@tayler2396 Ай бұрын
They're cute too.
@Nels921
@Nels921 Ай бұрын
@Malcolm-rt4fh We are smart like you!
@rakadus
@rakadus 29 күн бұрын
How about the new migrants?
@zama7902
@zama7902 29 күн бұрын
LoL. The amount of delusion is hilarious.😂
@Scorch428
@Scorch428 28 күн бұрын
Those Swedish girls could kill me on the battleground anytime they want!!
@jasminel9265
@jasminel9265 26 күн бұрын
The guy at 7:15 don't want to be a neighbor with American, who never had a war with Sweden in history, yet he's comfortable to be a neighbor with Russia, who had big wars with Sweden in history, and currently waging a massive war in Europe. Very interesting.
@PauZakArtist
@PauZakArtist 25 күн бұрын
15 countries were invaded by russia in the last 100 years ONLY. there' s a map with countries and years on the web..
@JonasBergling
@JonasBergling 25 күн бұрын
He doesn't want to be neighbour with American _nuclear arms_, I don't think he has anything against American people.
@gingataisen
@gingataisen 22 күн бұрын
​@@JonasBergling Would he prefer russian nuclear weapons instead?
@morewi
@morewi 16 күн бұрын
It's a common shill tactic. They are called peaceniks
@JonasBergling
@JonasBergling 16 күн бұрын
@@gingataisen I'm sure he wouldn't, he is - perhaps naively - hoping to have neither. Remember we have stayed out of wars for 200 years, that mindset takes a while to change for some.
@matsfrommusic
@matsfrommusic Ай бұрын
7:26 They managed to film the old cafe Ryska gården (Russian courtyard), now a tapas bar called Eden. It's amazing the old sign is still up.
@GdaySport
@GdaySport 28 күн бұрын
The curse of having Russia as your neighbour...
@factsy7042
@factsy7042 29 күн бұрын
A lot of the military footage they show in this video is showing the home guard not regular army. The home guard uses the ak4 (Heckler & Koch G3).
@T1hitsTheHighestNote
@T1hitsTheHighestNote 15 күн бұрын
The Home Guard and the Army is actually quite well integrated. The Home Guard supports the army with a lot of tasks, like guard and patrol service, with the host land support, and are always included in the big NATO exercises. Next year both the Army and the Home Guard will also rearm themselves with the same service rifle for the first time in our history, the SAKO AR-10/15 clone labled AK24.
@thegoat11111
@thegoat11111 Ай бұрын
There is no greater peace activist than a soldier who has seen war.
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson Ай бұрын
Unicorns are better!
@stupidburp
@stupidburp Ай бұрын
A soldier fighting in war is fighting for peace. That is the goal that sends them home. But if one side is an aggressor on the other, then there may be no place to go home to until after victory.
@charleskristiansson1296
@charleskristiansson1296 Ай бұрын
Yes, 200 years of wars saw Swedem embrace neutrality.
@Scorch428
@Scorch428 28 күн бұрын
only if they were losing if they were winning, they tend to watch to go back on more tours...
@MrLemonAsus
@MrLemonAsus 28 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@stahlbrandt
@stahlbrandt 29 күн бұрын
Excellent reporting, thanks!
@grizellda2540
@grizellda2540 Ай бұрын
I don't think I heard that this was a special shortened form of The Debate. Is the new length now about 25 minutes? Love the show, by the way - it helps so much in understanding world events and politics - thank you!
@MannyLoxx2010
@MannyLoxx2010 Ай бұрын
This is a condense version of the 45-Minutes France Debate shown every Friday. It's still 45-minutes still!!
@grizellda2540
@grizellda2540 Ай бұрын
@@MannyLoxx2010 Thank you!
@stevenmempa7415
@stevenmempa7415 28 күн бұрын
Good reporting. Thank you.
@fredkrissman6527
@fredkrissman6527 Ай бұрын
What an interesting&informative vid. Thanx France24!
@larion3296
@larion3296 Ай бұрын
It is hard to describe Sweden as neutral during ww2 and the Cold war. In ww2 Sweden balanced between German and UK/US. During the Cold war there were secret treaties with US/UK about the nuclear umbrella protection and US bombers being allowed to fly over Sweden. In addition Sweden provided intelligence (or exchanged) to UK/US. And Sweden also had secret military agreements with Finland and planning. For instance Sweden kept a surplus of Draken fighter jets for Finland (that was not allowed to have more than a certain number of fighter jets). With the official NATO membership there is now a chance to really plan an efficient joint defense of the Nordic countries, including the Baltic Sea and the Arctic region. Our countries are quite similar and it must be possible to set up a better defense that relies less on external actors, such as US.
@mikael5938
@mikael5938 28 күн бұрын
baltic sea cant be defended by 4 small corvettes without aa missles. Baltic states and finland dont have any navy at all. By joining Nato we risk all our navy to defend others who cant help us at all. America will be busy with china and i pivoting away from eastern europe to pacific. Joining nato juat increased risk for swedes to die for baltic states or poland. Coubtries that belonged to 4 different countries last 100 years and for sure will get into new wars. Sweden lost 300 years of peace and the people didnt even vote about the nato membership.
@morgansjodin4859
@morgansjodin4859 24 күн бұрын
Viking longships.. I think the EU/Europe already knows that. Macron is moving towards it and try to drag our blind arses along!
@T1hitsTheHighestNote
@T1hitsTheHighestNote 15 күн бұрын
In WWII, Sweden were neutral on the side of Germany...
@PiddePedd
@PiddePedd 25 күн бұрын
Good piece. On a side note, these conscripts are on the upper end of the bell curve- they have been selected to become ”company echelon command cadets”, which means they will become deputy platoon leaders and tank commanders. They performed well on all tests, especially the cognitice and psychological ones.
@AndyWoohoo666
@AndyWoohoo666 Ай бұрын
The peace movement in Sweden and the rest of Europe was heavily supported and infiltrated by Russia since the 80's. Just like they back in the 60's started to support the left movements, later they also turned to the Green as well and since the 90's they also supported the ultimate right wing and this all over Europe. This is how Russia works, they support both fractions in society that fight each others because it causes turbulence in in the country and divide people and that is a win for Russia. Sweden has also since both during the Cold War but also after been politically pressured by Russia and even as far as the now more regular threats with nuclear and military actions if Sweden does this or Sweden does that. Almost a yearly event was Russian test runs with nuclear strategic bomb planes doing a mock attack on Sweden and just turning right before entering Swedish airspace but also the incursions with naval ships/ submarines that's been going on since at least the 60's, So Russia has been picking on Sweden for as long as I have lived and tried to dictate Swedish politics and what or what not to do. The neutrality ended in 1992 with a change in the Swedish doctrine when Sweden chose the non alignment, Sweden have basically been at war with Novgorod Republic/ Russia between 1164-1809 so there is not a lot of love for Russia among the majority and for sure not those that grew up during the Cold War era. However what best shows the Swedish none alignment doctrine back in 1992 is that in 1994 Sweden and also Finland joined NATO's PFP program and that changed the military as well, Swedish military training started to implement NATO structure and order systems. Then in 1995 Swedish troops was for the first time deployed under NATO command/ down to group and platoon level in Doboj. Also notable is that Sweden have pretty deep ties with Ukraine that goes back to the 7th century with the Vikings/ Varangians/ Rus ( Rus/ Rus people/ Ruser comes from the part of Sweden where they Vikings traveling down to Kyiv from, a region called Roslagen South of Uppsala ) Then you have Ingegerd Olofsdotter of Sweden, also known as Irene or Anna/ St. Anna that was the Princess of Kyiv 1035-1050. There are still a village in Southern Ukraine Kherson region with a Swedish name /Gammalsvenskby where people still speak Swedish and uphold Swedish traditions, so Sweden have a lot of different ties to Ukraine. Finally. What people in general miss and I do understand they do is that they see Russia as a country like any other Western or European country and that is the biggest mistake. Russian history will tell you everything about Russia, it has never ever in its history been a democratic country. Russia has always been a Serfdom and the mentality of the Russian people comes from their history and it's called social heritage. Russians do not think or act like Western people because their mindset is so rooted in generations of Serfdom and the will to reach success at any cost. Russia has shown time over time that they only language they understand is meeting force with bigger force. I suggest that if anyone don't understand this last part, do study Russian history and if you want to know how the ruling class of Russia see their people, just read Russian military history and it will tell you anything you need to know. Then I also suggest to read about Social heritage to get a picture of what I talk about. Of course if you're Russian any discussion is unnecessary because you will never understand and as we all know, "Russian lips move they're either on OnlyFans or it's lies"
@Khasidon
@Khasidon 25 күн бұрын
Great video report. Very interesting.
@andreabotteghelz
@andreabotteghelz 29 күн бұрын
And what about Bornholm?
@mitchyoung93
@mitchyoung93 29 күн бұрын
Both Sweden and Finland have been participating in NATO exercises and even some ops for decades.
@lassel1344
@lassel1344 26 күн бұрын
For those who do not have a deeper knowledge of the conflict in Ukraine, it is recommended to watch Colonel Daniel Davis' YT channel when he interviews Jacques Baud who worked on a NATO mission in Ukraine for several years. There are at least 2 different interviews. Jacques has worked in many different countries as he has extensive knowledge in several areas. Jacques has also worked for a few years on UN assignments. Jacques goes back to the 1990s to today to explain events that affected the conflict.
@mwtrolle
@mwtrolle 28 күн бұрын
14:33 ohhhh He left out Denmark. Look at the Danish island of Bornholms strategic position compared to Kaliningrad. Also all the Nordic air forces have signed a treaty where they will work most more like one then just being part of NATO would do.
@srenjensen2836
@srenjensen2836 25 күн бұрын
I think he replaced Denmark with Iceland. Sutbly offending 5 million Danes XD
@user-vj4sn1hk3n
@user-vj4sn1hk3n Ай бұрын
To Do or Not To Do, only each nation know best or not?
@andersgrassman6583
@andersgrassman6583 28 күн бұрын
In the case of Finland and Sweden, we take each others position very, very seriously. It used to be the same kingdom for 700 years. The words "Sweden" and "Finland" only referred to the eastern and western parts of the realm.
@andyreznick
@andyreznick 28 күн бұрын
Thanks, FR 24.
@user-sn1lu5yi6r
@user-sn1lu5yi6r 29 күн бұрын
To our Swedish friends, allies and partners ....Welcome to the Club. Welcome to NATO. We are far, far stronger with you, with Sweden helping to defend the North. Toronto, Ontario, Canada,
@RennieNightcart
@RennieNightcart 28 күн бұрын
The former Koenigsburg is a post WW II exclave of the former Soviet Union, not an enclave.
@user-xq1wz3tp5z
@user-xq1wz3tp5z 15 күн бұрын
thanks for the clarification!
@CarrotDemonExorcist
@CarrotDemonExorcist 28 күн бұрын
European news is doing a great job helping relieve the aloofness Americans have about our allies. I wish I could tell you whats going to happen here with our elections. I'll be going all blue on my ticket but there are people here that live on an exclusive diet of OAN, newsmax, Tucker Carlson, & Christian nationalist podcasts.
@AmitRay47
@AmitRay47 Ай бұрын
very balanced discussion. Thanks.
@charleskristiansson1296
@charleskristiansson1296 Ай бұрын
? In what way?
@donaldliden4545
@donaldliden4545 27 күн бұрын
Good unteresting talks 👍🇸🇪
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 26 күн бұрын
Luxembourg and Switzerland, both neutral in 1940, one was strong, the other was not.
@MusicShortsGlobal
@MusicShortsGlobal Ай бұрын
William Alberque made some good points on the Baltic Sea strategy plan, but he spoke way too fast and I can barely keep up with what he was saying. Strong NATO🤝
@silverhooligan1256
@silverhooligan1256 27 күн бұрын
I’m a native English speaker and I found the sound quality and speed of his voice hard to understand and irritating.
@JC-rr1wu
@JC-rr1wu 29 күн бұрын
William Alberque has an impeccable taste in music, if I'm allowed to digress a bit
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Ай бұрын
Sweden has not been neutral since 1940. In WW2 It supported Finland in the Winter War and allowed Nazi-German troops to pass through its territory. During the Cold War it flew reconnaissance missions for the US and had a secret assistance agreement with the US in case of war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. Sweden has supported Ukraine with military help since 2022.
@leifnordh9109
@leifnordh9109 Ай бұрын
During WW2 Sweden also trained and eauiped ca 1 division of Norwegian soldiers and 1 brigade of Danish soldiers that were planned to be inserted into their home countries When called to liberate them. We gave the allies intelligence and the V2 missile thst crashed in Sweden.
@leifnordh9109
@leifnordh9109 Ай бұрын
Sweden declare itself non-belligerent during the Winter war of 1939 When Soviet invaded.
@Northman-from-the-North
@Northman-from-the-North Ай бұрын
Sweden gave up their nukes to the US and handed over plutonium for hundreds of nukes in return the US promised the swedes protection.
@znail4675
@znail4675 28 күн бұрын
@@leifnordh9109 non-belligerent is not neutral, it allows for military support and is essentially one step below being active participant.
@balsyprick6764
@balsyprick6764 28 күн бұрын
Yeah that is what neutrality is. Not picking sides, but selling to everyone. Making deals with everyone. Neutrality is not what you seem to think it is; to ignore everyone.
@k.sullivan6303
@k.sullivan6303 28 күн бұрын
Hello from Canada. I'm about 5:30 into the video, and I see that the Swedish young people are so beautiful, both boys and girls. I hope no harm comes to them. I guess their immediate training will be to learn how to defend the main purpose of that island. The main purpose is likely to have various types of short to long range missiles to strike the enemy at sea anywhere around them, and to strike right into the heart of Russia if need be. These tanks and infantry people will need to protect the island from invasion, thus protecting the missiles, and the radar and tracking systems as well. This is just my best guess as I am not a military person.
@daphuc502
@daphuc502 Ай бұрын
neutrality is by strength , not by choices. if your small weak country security is in such threats against an overwhelming super powers , there should be compulsory military services, military spending should jump up to 4-5 % or even much much higher . unprepared for wars and wait for foreigners to fight for your war , is not a good strategy.
@andersgrassman6583
@andersgrassman6583 28 күн бұрын
Well, during the 50/60's Sweden had the 4th largest airforce in the world. And they always flew very agressively, like it was always wartime. NATO pilots weren't alowed to fly that way, because the Swedish way killed many, many times more pilots. Defence spending in the 60/70's topped at 3,7% I think. And every able man served in the military. So it was not like we tried to be "free riders". And we are not going to be free riders within NATO either. We add strength from the start, and we are expanding as fast as is practically possible. Money is not the issue.
@donaldliden4545
@donaldliden4545 27 күн бұрын
Yes it should be 6% as it was before..now they must buy back everything that was given away or sold for a bargain...shelters must be restored.Army must be back up to same size it was in beginning of the 80th also we have seen now its impossible to have too much airdefence and drones,missiles.Armed vehicles ok but seems to be less important to have many tanks and more important being able to defend electrical power and civilians....damn all Russians their actions costs too damn much for the neighbours the idiots havent even been able to lift its own ppl out of poverty still they prefer start war on countries minding their own business and welcoming Russian citizens as tourists or those who found a partner and a job.Nobody was treating them bad still they manage to sell in a war that has nothing in it to gain for them against ppl who didnt want them any harm..IDIOTs rules Kreml thats crystalclear
@pajos04
@pajos04 28 күн бұрын
Is not Bornholm and Åland strategic?
@jrtstrategicapital560
@jrtstrategicapital560 22 күн бұрын
This young generation at least has a little warning to prepare instead of waiting till an invasion occurs...so proud of the youths!
@IIIIIIIIIIIllllllIIIIIIIIIII
@IIIIIIIIIIIllllllIIIIIIIIIII 26 күн бұрын
Putin wanting to "get the band back together" .... ok :D
@seanbumstead1250
@seanbumstead1250 26 күн бұрын
Canada 🇨🇦 welcomes our new NATO members Finland and Sweden
@morgansjodin4859
@morgansjodin4859 24 күн бұрын
Same as Hockey...?! 🤔😝
@UpRisingDown
@UpRisingDown Ай бұрын
I dont wanna go to war. I like my couch and my beer.
@suicidalbanananana
@suicidalbanananana Ай бұрын
Don't worry, we all have paid armies (ie: people that WANT to do the job) with up to date material & decades worth of shared trainings, even if sh*t somehow hits the fan hard (and that's extremely unlikely) we're not gonna get pulled away from our couch and beer any time soon.
@Radonslur
@Radonslur Ай бұрын
no one does. do you like Baltika?
@peabase
@peabase Ай бұрын
@@suicidalbanananana Speak for your lazy self. The bulk of our armed forces consists of unpaid reservists. In fact, almost our entire adult male population is or has been one.
@UpRisingDown
@UpRisingDown 29 күн бұрын
@@suicidalbanananana true words 👍
@UpRisingDown
@UpRisingDown 29 күн бұрын
@@Radonslur baltik states?
@Do-not-be-sheep
@Do-not-be-sheep 29 күн бұрын
A high priority for the eu must be the coordination of armament manufacturing across the eu. The goal is to creating a manufacturing strategy based on the lessons learned from Ukraine to be able to manufacture arms at the consumption rate documented in Ukraine. Manufacturing must be fully redundant in two different countries with geographic diversity. They should have an inventory of at least 6 months. With this model they can meet their own needs while supporting countries like Ukraine.
@sebastianingelsson582
@sebastianingelsson582 19 сағат бұрын
The girl, I wake up at 5? Yea I do that too every day? You special much?
@jan-erikjanson1995
@jan-erikjanson1995 27 күн бұрын
i think 500 years since Treaty of Kalmar Unifying all three Scandinavian nations,
@Scorch428
@Scorch428 28 күн бұрын
But I thought Putin invaded Ukraine because he didnt want NATO to border Russia....and now it does in Finland!
@johanberglund6240
@johanberglund6240 28 күн бұрын
I am happy to see there are lots of youngsters willing to fight, and almost only old who does not understand that if attacked by Putin, the only way out is to fight.
@Pubbehey1
@Pubbehey1 25 күн бұрын
Well, we have a huge ARMY if needed. Every man and woman that hunts in the woods have lots of weapons, so that would be a guerilla warfare that would not end well for any agressor, Same is probably the same in finland. I think i read somwhere that we have around 2 million hunting rifles just laying around, and we have orders that we shall never surrender no matter what happens or what we are told by propaganda. Its like what people say, when the forests starts speaking Swedish or finish or any nordic language you should probably be worried, we have a lot of forests up here.
@roundlake96
@roundlake96 28 күн бұрын
I hope or strategy for the Baltic will be the same even if we join Nato. That is to be the strongest navy in the area if we include our friends in Denmark and Finland. As before the war that makes us secured form any naval threats. Only real change I hope to see is that Danmark lets Sweden and Finland Take over the Baltic presence so they can focus fully on having a larger presence in the Norwegian Sea, North sea and arctic regions together with Norway and Canada. That way we can use our resources better than we did before joining Nato
@user-lv5wt3kd5u
@user-lv5wt3kd5u 15 күн бұрын
Not first time Sweden defends Gotland :)
@raystargazer7468
@raystargazer7468 23 күн бұрын
bellorus should be red on the map
@gb1178
@gb1178 10 күн бұрын
I love listening to the Swedes and Fins. They have a better understanding of Russia than most. I'm sooooo glad they are with us. Great addition to NATO.
@haroldplante8287
@haroldplante8287 2 сағат бұрын
Democracy is worth protecting. As a Vietnam Era vet, I welcome your embrace of Collective security that NATO strives for. 🇺🇸🇺🇦🙏
@jf7243
@jf7243 26 күн бұрын
Welcome to reality Swedish peacenicks! My sister too was a long-term pacifist but a belligerent Russia changed that. I hope Europe wakes up and quickly rebuilds their military.
@NurBull
@NurBull Ай бұрын
Oh my God, they are just children ...
@Melrose51653
@Melrose51653 Ай бұрын
Russia has a poor navy and no experience using it.
@user-xq1wz3tp5z
@user-xq1wz3tp5z 15 күн бұрын
But a formidable submarine missile fleet, yes?
@roboldx9171
@roboldx9171 Ай бұрын
To underestimate the Swedes is like underestimating the Vikings. Do it at your peril.
@lappo2534
@lappo2534 Ай бұрын
Ha ha ha how's that multiculturalism going in Sven's Sweden?
@rakadus
@rakadus 29 күн бұрын
​​@@lappo2534Exactly the thought that crossed my mind.
@zama7902
@zama7902 29 күн бұрын
Swedes are incredibly delusional. The whole world knows how cucked you are.😂
@mnufeld8448
@mnufeld8448 29 күн бұрын
​​​​​@@lappo2534Sweden with stealth frigates & AIP subs, and their effective Gripen fighters, which they can operate from stretches of highway
@mitchyoung93
@mitchyoung93 29 күн бұрын
@@mnufeld8448 Yeah that's great, but when ethnic Swedes are a minority in many neighborhoods and even close to that in the whole city of Malmo I believe, than all that stuff is kinda useless, don't you think?
@letsplaywar
@letsplaywar 19 күн бұрын
i want a Luxury Bunker for myself.
@EmpereurNapoleonex
@EmpereurNapoleonex 21 күн бұрын
it's understandable statement. in a perfect world, no one should have to pick between NATO and Russia, but there are no sides in a nuclear war. Still would prefer peace
@danieltimbers400
@danieltimbers400 14 күн бұрын
all of you in this video know s that Russian would never attack Sweden or Finland
@ArnoldVeeman
@ArnoldVeeman 23 күн бұрын
Knut Stahle really has no clue of what is at stake here 😢 He may think he does though and it’s this nativity that makes people like him kinda adorable, but they seriously have to wake up now!
@Fujihoffmann
@Fujihoffmann Ай бұрын
I want to congratulate France 24 for finding the only photo of Prime Minister Kristersson where he doesn't look like a 14year old intern at his first summer job.
@andersmalmgren6528
@andersmalmgren6528 28 күн бұрын
And he as surpassed the Magdalena clown in recent polls which is great.
@karlvonbahnhof6594
@karlvonbahnhof6594 27 күн бұрын
Kaliningrad is Czech... It's called Královec...It was German, Polish, Russian..now it's our turn, 99% of people voted for annexation...😅
@scottsammons7747
@scottsammons7747 4 күн бұрын
OK
@walterg6953
@walterg6953 19 күн бұрын
I'm glad that Sweden protect gotland I pass on ferry from Poland to Sweden nice trip Smooth Sweden in NATO they should stay in Gotland 10 years straight with army without problem 300km from Kaliningrad to gotland Russia got crazy
@rakadus
@rakadus 29 күн бұрын
The number of migrants willing to sign up for the Sweedish defence forces will be an interesting statistics that needs to be monitored over the coming decades.
@dennislindqvist1265
@dennislindqvist1265 28 күн бұрын
I read some survey that showed that immigrants are more willing to defend the country than ethnic Swedes. However, the difference was not great. But it still surprised me.
@mikee4596
@mikee4596 15 күн бұрын
@@dennislindqvist1265 i think a lot of immigrants and first generation citizens feel a debt of gratitude to their new country for the oppurtunities granted and therefore feel the need to give back. There is a high level of immigrant participation in the US military as well
@keithdunwoody1302
@keithdunwoody1302 26 күн бұрын
That guy who didn't want American weapons near him should be glad they're there. Your sons will have the freedom not to join NATO as soldiers because of a strong defense.
@legandery
@legandery 29 күн бұрын
We have been thinking it 60 years. Sence 1945
@greggcarrier5831
@greggcarrier5831 22 күн бұрын
Good work , thank you . Understanding what the current Russian government is and Russians mindset of why they think and act as they do is important . But most important is Ukrainian victory in this war .
@travisbitters7964
@travisbitters7964 23 күн бұрын
Good for you Sweden!
@letMeSayThatInIrish
@letMeSayThatInIrish 26 күн бұрын
I'd say it's time to renegotiate Russian passage through the Danish straits.
@firemarble
@firemarble 28 күн бұрын
Help Denmark stop dangerous unlawful russian oil transports through the straits NOW!
@lahy1060
@lahy1060 Ай бұрын
Here is my idea of how to end the Russia-Ukraine War in 1-2 years. First, Ukraine ought to mobilize one additional million soldiers, 500 thousand of which are dedicated to infantry soldiers for fighting in trenches, the rest is used for rotation of the frontline combat soldiers, and when the Ukrainian armed forces can retake all of the territory back including Crimea, then NATO can officially declare accepting Ukraine's expedited application for joining NATO Alliance. The Ratification should start right away shortly after so that NATO can move its troops into Ukraine to guard all of Ukraine's borders.
@Sziasztok742
@Sziasztok742 Ай бұрын
This scenario would only happen in Hollywood. you're like zelensky, you're the same clown
@kirilld6206
@kirilld6206 Ай бұрын
Call Zelenski. He desperately needs your military expertise.
@mohamedjibriil7679
@mohamedjibriil7679 Ай бұрын
Wishful thinking. Ukraine don't have enough soldiers to mobilize thy were finished during the counteroffensive.
@drscopeify
@drscopeify Ай бұрын
@@Sziasztok742 More like Putin is the clown, acting like his military can do anything when they cannot even take air superiority over a country with no air force LOL and his Navy looks out of the ship windows and see fishes going by. What a clown Putin is.
@drscopeify
@drscopeify Ай бұрын
​@@kirilld6206 Zelenski knows what he is doing since he is winning the war for 2 years now.
@kalmansovari6878
@kalmansovari6878 25 күн бұрын
Mordor makes people come together
@Jhossack
@Jhossack Күн бұрын
Mission creep. It’s only Putin pals that say that. It’s about time to name and shame.
@myleskgallagher
@myleskgallagher Ай бұрын
Clovis Casall didnt grow up with bomb shelters in the cold war? How old is he?
@davidladjani108
@davidladjani108 29 күн бұрын
If he's French, he probably didn't, no matter his age
@andersmalmgren6528
@andersmalmgren6528 28 күн бұрын
Im born 1980, Swedish, it wasnt that big of a thing for my generation we knew about them but we didnt have drills etc like the older generations.
@museumoflosttime9718
@museumoflosttime9718 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for the show. Super dangerous and incredibly naive peace protesters, a gift to Putin's brutal regime and a notable danger to the freedoms of the democratic world. The same sort of campaigners that opposed rearmament during the 1930’s and who made it so much harder for countries to resist the invasions and takeovers of 1940.
@AXXeYY
@AXXeYY Ай бұрын
8000 conscripts in 2024
@peabase
@peabase Ай бұрын
You need to up your game.
@AXXeYY
@AXXeYY Ай бұрын
@@peabase yeah 26/4 we get the defense committee report on the future of swedish armed forces we see what they say!
@peabase
@peabase Ай бұрын
@@AXXeYY While at it, have your committee design a horse, so that you can equip a camel corps. Sorry, couldn't resist.
@AXXeYY
@AXXeYY Ай бұрын
@@peabase we have horses its called CV90 its have 600 horses 😉
@peabase
@peabase Ай бұрын
@@AXXeYY It's what cavalry units or dragoons would use nowadays, sure.
@vijaymujumdar5617
@vijaymujumdar5617 Ай бұрын
Joining NATO definitely makes Sweden safe from external (Russian) threat, but it has to expeditiously deal with internal jihadi threat. This has been a self inflicted wound. Welcoming illegal immigration from Islamic countries was unwise in the extreme. It has put gentle Swedes in harms way. Urgent course correction is needed.
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 Ай бұрын
Well, lack of threats makes for a very soft, peaceful and vulnerable society. Swedes have been needing to urgently course-correct for 2 decades already. But they are now finally turning the boat around. Its a self-inflicted wound for sure, but it will make their culture less naive - so it is not only bad.
@shar3066
@shar3066 24 күн бұрын
we had very big trust in our society and to people prior. Now we don't trust anyone. The way people demonize us has been a wake up call. There is some very horrible people in the world even among our so called allies.
@victorcapel2755
@victorcapel2755 20 күн бұрын
I don't think you know what "illegal immigration" means....
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 20 күн бұрын
@@victorcapel2755 - well, who says its "illegal", when its "everyone welcome" as long as you manage to reach the border.
@victorcapel2755
@victorcapel2755 20 күн бұрын
@@Mosern1977 If it's not forbidden by law, it's by definition not "illegal". You seem to struggle with the concept of laws. It's really not that complicated.
@denisssenyondwa7426
@denisssenyondwa7426 28 күн бұрын
The reason they want militirisation is because they have never seen a war. But they are about to see it. People need to think about peace and love of their neighbour.
@5ty717
@5ty717 26 күн бұрын
Bill Alberquercie is a turkey: Bow tie guy is totally useless
@HannuKaleviElo
@HannuKaleviElo 26 күн бұрын
The Strategy is that no russian ships allowed on Baltic sea!!!
@crankyunicorn4423
@crankyunicorn4423 20 күн бұрын
pacifist are to blame also, because tyrants only respect strength
@nyxjrstone7470
@nyxjrstone7470 24 күн бұрын
Dont make another war...you know it.
@pinkfloyd870
@pinkfloyd870 3 күн бұрын
See ruZZia
@dwiss2556
@dwiss2556 28 күн бұрын
It should be said that while being unaligned Sweden was everything but not a weapon or military free zone. Conscription being reintroduced is mostly the big change but everything military has been there all the time.
@dwiss2556
@dwiss2556 27 күн бұрын
@@donaldlyons17 Because societies used to have an unwritten contract along the lines: 'I will protect my country from enemies thus I will learn how to do that by being conscripted for a period of time.' Why would anyone revolt against that? Typically all European countries also have an alternative to military conscription
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 26 күн бұрын
@@donaldlyons17 a citizenship doesn't only come with benefits and rights, there are also obligations to the society that you are a part of.
@donaldlyons17
@donaldlyons17 26 күн бұрын
@@AlexKall Well no their is a train of though that said "no one owes ____ anything" so I disagree there is no reason to think of being part of a society as having any obligations since they are not obligated to take care of each member!!!
@ibrahimvestin1901
@ibrahimvestin1901 Ай бұрын
Turkey was promised F16 if they just allowed Sweden into NATO. How did that work out or was the USA once more let a small NATO country down?
@stupidburp
@stupidburp Ай бұрын
The request for access to parts for F-16 upgrades was approved. Erdogan has moved towards autocratic rule but the value of Sweden was high enough to compromise. Turkey has been building the F-16s themselves and only wanted to upgrade to a newer standard.
@tayler2396
@tayler2396 Ай бұрын
They still aren't getting the F-35; the F-16 is so 20th Century.
@Cloud-dq1mr
@Cloud-dq1mr Ай бұрын
Turkey tried a power move in the once in a millenium chance they had, and now their allies know how trustworthy they are. Everyone knows now.
@fjslfhalfhkdjfh
@fjslfhalfhkdjfh 28 күн бұрын
"small" ? :)
@john-toregundersen2655
@john-toregundersen2655 28 күн бұрын
So, whats the point here? USA bad, NATO bad, Sweden bad?
@gerhardrausing777
@gerhardrausing777 28 күн бұрын
Interesting video. Speaking of red lines. So if an F-16 flies from Poland to a Russian target in Russian-controlled territory in Ukraine, it is war against NATO. But if it lands at a Ukrainian air base on the way there....some officer might paint a Ukrainian flag on the plane. Gives a short speech. Dear F--16. You now belong to the Air Force of Ukraine. And then it flies on and bombs the same target, then everything would be A-ok?
@michaelalaneme3911
@michaelalaneme3911 Ай бұрын
Any new Russia-NATO conflict will not be conventional. It will be brief, and devastating to both sides.
@hummingbirdman
@hummingbirdman 28 күн бұрын
We need more blonde models in the military!
@andersmalmgren6528
@andersmalmgren6528 28 күн бұрын
There is a Swedish documentary called Jägarsoldat, its about conscripts doing Ranger training. There is a blond girl, Josefin, very small but with a great attitude. Worth a watch.
@shoelrana9887
@shoelrana9887 11 күн бұрын
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@GorillaTVe
@GorillaTVe 25 күн бұрын
As a Swede I am deeply depressed because stupid decisions of our politicians are irreversible.
@dawg929
@dawg929 Ай бұрын
It is all because of Putin. It is not because of NATO expansion😂😂😂 Some people actually believe you. How sad
@raitisfreimanis
@raitisfreimanis 26 күн бұрын
The Baltic Sea is a NATO sea!
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 26 күн бұрын
The economic zones, the rest is international waters.
@raitisfreimanis
@raitisfreimanis 26 күн бұрын
@@AlexKall Yes of course. I was speaking metaphorically.
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