No More Hemi V8? The 2025 Ram 1500 Chief Engineer Explains Why!

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[@beaches2mountains230]

We don't need 24 way adjustable seats with massage. We want durability and reliability at a fair price

[@Tropicalfrooploops]

Fax. The reason they do this is because the features don't cost them much, but increase their bottom line. They can build a base truck at 30k, and sell for 50k OR They can they can build a "luxury" truck at 40k, and sell for 100k. You'd have to sell 3 base trucks to make the same profit as 1 "luxury" truck

[@DJ2226]

I very much agree. Really, in my opinion, the high-end version of the 1500 shouldn't even be a Ram truck with the kinds of features it has. It should have been made as a Jeep since it's more like a truck version of the Grand Wagoneer. The Grand Wagoneer is basically a modern luxury version of the old Ramcharger given that it is built on the 1500's design, and since Chrysler is mostly a dead name at this point with Jeep taking over the more luxurious segment of the CDJR vehicles, it would actually be fitting to have a Jeep truck that would basically be Ram's equivalent to the GMC trucks.

[@nn-dj2nu]

OMG, give this man a job at Chrysler!!!

[@DamnManSam]

There is the tradesman if you don’t want the massage. However, I am sad to see the HEMI go.

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

True dat, we don't need a second mortgage just to get a truck, simple work truck dont have to be a massage parlor.

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

I’m a dodge truck guy, but I will miss the tried and true Hemi V8 which I have loved for years. Not a fan of forced induction engines in trucks so I will not buy a new Dodge truck unless the V8 is an option.

[@jw8578]

Softball questions. Ask some hard questions about downhill braking, durability, testing, internals, etc. Fortunately/Unfortunately i learned more from Car Care Nut mechanic review.

[@hahaadventures4838]

Agreed, ROTTEN journalists for the industry!

[@tylerproctor4878]

Why do i need an 8.4 inch touchscreen radio in a tradesman. I want a lower price not a tablet

[@dave3682]

The reality is that you're probably not actually paying any more for the "tablet" since it is a unit that has been in several Stellantis vehicles and they've probably already broken even on it. In fact, you'd probably end up paying more if RAM had to sit down and design and build an analog center stack just for this vehicle. The vehicle isn't expensive because of the screen. That's what I'm trying to say.

[@MrJEEPJT]

“TRADESMAN” 👍👍👍 My choice exactly pisses me off multi-function tailgate “NOT” available in Tradesman….. But “MULTI-FLEX” tailgate “IS” available on Chevy Silverado “WT”

[@michaelwaiwood5629]

Alan Falkowski who designed the gen 3 hemi also is the engineer that designed the hurricane inline 6. So if you thought the hemi was pretty good than you should feel a little better about this engine as well. Only time will tell but they have to keep moving forward. The hemi ram was available for 19 years so if you don't like this new powertrain then you can always find a good used hemi truck out there. I love the hemi and have put cams headers and prochargers on them for years and will continue but I'm looking forward to this new engine moving forward. BMW has been using a 3.0 inline 6 with ZF 8 speed for years and everyone loves it so can't wait to get one and start seeing what mods it will take before it's limits are reached.

[@davidrudd9846]

To be honest I do have great hopes for the inline 6

[@mypronouniswtf5559]

BMW 3.0 is different thana RAM 3.0...GM had a 5.7 V8 for years,Toyota had a 5.7 V8 for years and RAM had a 5.7 V8 for years...all are different like the lame inline 6...Dodge even RAM had a inline 6 for years they had a 3.7 inline 6 for decades...they also had a 5.9-6.7 inline 6 Cummins diesel...Why are dolts always saying BMW had a straight 6 for years,yeah we know how unreliable that is! Fact is people like V8 engines for a multitude of reasons...

[@DamnManSam]

@@mypronouniswtf5559 There are still new 2024 models with the HEMI.

[@lb7144]

Yep, got a 2024 Limited Night Edition with the 5.7 Hemi. It’s still 2024 and there are lots of Ram V8 models available. Folks went into a panic during the late 70s when American autos started making smaller cars and went to front wheel drive. The V8s we got were full of smog emissions and downsized with no power. My 75 Chevy 350 was around 150 HP. The V8s made a big return with power. We got rear wheel & AWD cars. The Hemi or something similar will return once some smart engineer figures out better emissions & efficiency. As the Good Book says, ”For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;“ ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4‬:‭17‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “This too shall past”

[@DJ2226]

They should have made that Hurricane engine in a V8 configuration or as a bigger displacement I6. As good as the I6 layout is, there is a big problem here: this is a relatively small 3L engine to be pushing the kind of power they are advertising, particularly with the HO version. The SO version of the engine is fine for the 1500 and both are fine in a car or SUV, but I do not believe that they will have the longevity of a Hemi when pushed in truck application. Much heavier loads to be dealing with. At least with a bigger I6 or a V8 you have more displacement to split the power between. You won't have to run as high of boost. The other thing about a smaller displacement V8, something along the lines of a 4L, is they aren't too bad on MPG. The Cadi CT6 with the 4.2L TTV8 was able to get an EPA rated 25 MPG on the highway and did it with a sedan that was bigger. It also had AWD and still was able to achieve that number where the 5.7 Hemi on the Chargers in AWD would typically drop by about 2 MPG. This is the same deal with the smaller 5L V8 in the Genesis G90, so with a smaller and lighter vehicle without AWD and a detuned version of that Blackwing engine I could see that MPG going up. The two cylinders with less heat and pressure + temps would potentially lead to lower NOX emissions too. Of course the HO I6 can make the same numbers as the Blackwind and even the Hellcat and do it with better MPG even if the NOX levels are higher, but particularly in a truck application I would assume most people would rather have the slightly larger engine and get better longevity. It's a half ton truck at the end of the day anyway, so fuel economy is going to be bad regardless. They should have kept the 5.7L V8 as an option and made the SO I6 the standard in the 2025 model year trucks.

[@smrtguy77777]

It’s not about mpg really, it’s all about emissions. This is why diesels are almost dead in regular vehicles, even though they have excellent mpg. A V8 is always going to emit more than a V6 and a V6 more than a i4. That’s why you’re seeing the whole industry moving towards turbos and hybrids and EVs. Increasingly more and more stringent regulations.

[@DJ2226]

@@smrtguy77777 That's not always going to be the case since you have to play by the rules of thermal dynamics. If a V8 can get better MPG than a smaller engine, then by definition you will have less CO2 emissions. The Blackwing engine will produce less CO2 emissions than some I6 and V6 engines at around the same displacement or even at lower displacements depending on the running conditions of the engine regarding load, boost, air/fuel ratio, and EGR and PCV injection into the intake. NOX emissions also aren't going to increase with larger engines by default just because of he higher cylinder count; it's the heat of the combustion that oxidises the nitrogen in the air that creates it which is why even engines running on hydrogen produce NOX gases. EGR systems reintroduce the exhaust gases back into the engine to give it a buffer gas to offset the amount or air coming into the engine. Less air means less N and O in the combustion which means less heat and less NOX emissions created. Running the engine rich also has a similar effect, and since that typically is done on turbocharged engines anyway to use the fuel to cool the combustion chamber under higher loads this means you'll burn more fuel when you run the engine hard. The I6, particularly the HO version, will probably get worse fuel economy than the 6.4 Hemi when towing the same amount of weight depending on the conditions of the road and weather unless you're going downhill or pulling something well above sea level where the air is thin and the turbos can help the engine breath.

[@ThaDonDeFashion]

you can see the excitement in his face when he started talking about the 5.7 V8... he was like a kid again.. that shows how much people loooove the V8 and the exhaust note

[@Youngmechanical]

TFL. Can we have a reliability video?? These manufacturers should be held accountable for their own R&D. The consumer has been paying for it for years now. Everything looks great on paper but once they are in the real world the failure rate is ridiculous.

[@Dusdaddy]

How? Where? Engines today have been lasting much longer than engines 20-30 years ago.

[@Youngmechanical]

@Dusdaddy wrong. Take any of the GM 5.3, 6.0 or 6.2 from the early 2000s and compare to the latest versions. Take the ford EcoBoost engines and compare them to the same early 2000s triton V8. Ive worked on all them and seen reliability drop. Asking more horsepower out of smaller displacement. It's a recipe for issues.

[@garysarratt1]

Sure, in ABOUT 10 YEARS??? Look up “reliability”.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@Youngmechanical The Ford 3.5L is more reliable than the 5.0

[@Youngmechanical]

@@Dusdaddy I think we'll have to agree to disagree. The 3.5 has endless cam phaser failures and stretched timing chains. Also if cheaper oil is ran the oil cooling jets will plug up and it's all down hill from there. The 5.0 might lose a cam phaser once in a while but it's less likely. No turbos to go bad and no oil cooling jets issue. The 5.0 from release to 2018 did have cylinder head issues with valve seats but the cost of ownership was still lower to 250k miles

[@tylerproctor4878]

Wish he thought about the customer when they put the price on as much as they seem to think about it when designing the truck for utility of a light duty truck

[@Ryan-yi6su]

I Have zero screen in my vehicle And I'm quite happy I stare at my phone enough

[@jasonyoder9461]

You guys should do a channel just focused on reliability on trucks

[@paulwicklund5044]

Andre, does your Colorado have a cracked engine block, GM just recalled the Colorado for that.

[@ryanb8736]

I have said thousand of times. GM has never made a good 4 cylinder. Never. They can’t even get the 5.3/6.2 V8 right.

[@davidporter7051]

​@@ryanb8736funny my first engine was a 2.0 GM 4 banger. It lasted 9 years and 150K miles. It still ran when that car was totaled. We have 5.3's with over 10K hours of usage in southern Arizona and they are still running fine. What you are suffering from is bias and it's not good.

[@is6566]

Problem is NOT systemic to the engine design. It’s a casting problem on SOME of the 2023 engines coming from that particular cast.

[@MeliorIlle]

GM fans cope in the strangest ways.@@is6566

[@fscottgray9784]

On board inverters have one common problem on most vehicles. They do not provide a pure syne wave and most solar generators do not recognize the power and won't recharge from the on board inverter. I hope these new inverters have addressed that so that campers and overlanders who do not want to always have the engine running can use their solar/power banks more efficiently.

[@1gr8oil]

Another great review Andre. On the "RAMCHARGER", did you find out what RPM the "PENTASTAR" would be running at when generating energy to charge the battery?

[@markjohnston2675]

How about a trim called Stripper...Regular cab, 8' bed, a/c, roll up windows, no carpet, open power train options, steel wheels, cruse control, tow package, 4x4 or 4x2, regular radio, and a price under 30k....I can't believe in this market they just keep pushing top dollar trucks when the dealers are overflowing with them however the lower trim ones can't be found...People are going broke and they act like we are going through a boom time.

[@DillonPrecisionFan]

"Stripper...no carpet..." classic!😂

[@huntsimple9527]

I became a huge Ram fan starting around 2010 and through about 2020 or so. I got so tired of them losing so much value. Switched to Toyota and love the way these hold value. I liked my Ram trucks, they met my needs, but it was brutal how quickly they lost value. Based on what I see right now, the rebates/markdowns on new Ram's are devaluing used Ram's like crazy once again (or I should say as always).

[@CharlesAnsman]

His title say's he's more of a boss, then a real engineer in the lab, or field

[@mypronouniswtf5559]

The engineer sire seems to get happy and smiles when he talks about the HEMI trucks he had and the sound of the HEMI..the 6cyl it looks like someone neutered him when he talks about that engine!

[@stuarthoffman5065]

I would like to know although you get an 8 speed for standard and high horsepower engine if any internal transmission components are different?

[@sunchaser999]

GM is in a good position to optimize their v8 to match these numbers and possibly convert some ram customers. But they probably won’t.

[@davidporter7051]

Ram purchasers are who they are. loyal to a fault

[@is6566]

Good thing this “loyal to the fault” problem doesn’t affect other brands’ buyers. Toyota or Ford or GM. 😃

[@davidporter7051]

@@is6566 the difference is as a whole Ram is the least dependable, highest cost to own, highest depreciation pick up to have. These are facts but Ram fans will never admit this and will deflect to something like you are a blue voter.

[@jackhammer2671]

@@davidporter7051 Really ?...I've been a Ram fan since 09 and now will go with the GMC Denali not because I like GM better but want that 6.2 V8...I actually prefer the ride and interior of the Ram but be damned if I go with a 6 cyl while I can still get a V8 truck...big mistake on Ram's part for not dropping the Pentastar V6 and keeping the Hemi V8 for those that want them like myself no instead they have 3 6cyl to chose from...STUPID MOVE!!

[@davidporter7051]

@@jackhammer2671 nothing you said makes any sense. You are emotional and all over the place

[@trevorjurges3430]

This was a rough one.... not the best questions and didn't seem to have much direction

[@stevekniess3665]

Andre is your Colorado affected by the recall?

[@alldecentnamestaken]

Question: does the Ram app/key work on the 2025 Tradesman?

[@Tropicalfrooploops]

I like the engineer guy tho, he represents the company well, and poses a good argument for many of rams questionable choices

[@AltTechFan]

I learned that the HEMI is still.available in the Classic.

[@mypronouniswtf5559]

and 2500 and greater trucks.

[@stevenalexander5603]

This engineer you can tell he doesn’t give a shit about the customers and he is definitely not truck guy

[@PWlangford1]

I like the idea of plugging in tools.

[@Dusdaddy]

Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long for any of them to incorporate it. The tech to do it has been around forever.

[@barryw5290]

So how is the oil pump driven? How about cam chain design?

[@csababartha5569]

Not sure about payload . On Canadian models the sticker on the B pilar says 900 lbs. ???? That's 4 guy's in the cab and thats it???

[@mikebiron7339]

Wish they kept a version of the HEMI, preferably the 6.4 for the 1500. That would direct compete with GM's 6.0. I'm ok with the 3.0 replacing the 5.7. I'm also looking forward to a time where there is an ample supply of 1500's in wrecking yards from insurance totals, as that Hurricane standard output drivetrain would look really good in my classic Jeep XJ! ;)

[@gregmoessner3104]

Hemi still in classic eh

[@gpaje]

The issue is the emissions, they cannot produce a bunch of high emission V8s, they needed to redesign it like GM is doing with the small blocks, but Stellantis decided not to. GMs next gen V8s come out in 2028. Ford's 5.0L is good for another decade as well.

[@mplslawnguy3389]

I love the 5.7L. Works for me. It's a good, strong engine.

[@mypronouniswtf5559]

6.4 in the 2500,3500 etc.. plus you can still buy the classic!

[@bydarkwaters2055]

I hate all this complicated technology on new cars. I want a dependable, strong basic truck. I guess I have to stick with rebuilding the old stuff. Please, someone build a brand new V-8 powered 1972 GMC K1500 single cab, 8 foot bed truck, for under $25,000.

[@sblsbl7600]

Buy a Dynacorn Chevy cab 67 to 72 and build your own. I'm buying one as a retirement project in a few years.

[@beaglelife]

Listening to the chief engineer he reluctantly admits to "trade offs" between this compliance engine and the Hemi, such as deficiencies in downhill towing/engine braking and the engine sound versus the Hemi. Not sure how consumers will respond to having this compliance engine forced upon us due to the governments emission regulations. That being said the horsepower and torque ratings are good on the new engine, but will people want to buy it, especially with the increased pricing?

[@joatmon1857]

As always the Government knows best what people need and should be using, just ask any current diesel owner how great regulations are....

[@Weak_juan]

​@@joatmon1857I love the govt. They are like foster parents

[@ryanb8736]

This is the worst guy. He simply has no clue on the legendary straight 6 design. The engineers must be so mad at him.

[@davidporter7051]

increased pricing? the Hurricane Option is less than a Hemi.

[@jghall00]

There are alternatives.

[@gabrielback5615]

If I heard right, the Hemi will still be available in the Classic version truck, I predict the sales of that going up. Ive often wondered why they didn't just develop a small twin turbo V8, that would have kept a lot more customers happy. GM and Ford fans are not going to be drawn over with the hurricane and they've alienated a large number of RAM customers, doesn't seem like a very smart move to me.

[@Weak_juan]

Go from a v8 to a small twinturboV8 in an environment where emissions and fuel economy is top priority? No. In-line is a great configuration for a truck.

[@ryanb8736]

That would never pass. That would be worse. 😂

[@ryanb8736]

This guy is awful at explaining what makes a straight 6 a great option. It is one of the best design engines for power and longevity. Hes fired.

[@chrisgill7824]

The Ram classic has been discontinued with the 2023 model being the final year.

[@davidporter7051]

I advise you not to become a market speculator.

[@Tropicalfrooploops]

32:20 That's crazy. That software better be flawless, cuz that could be bothersome

[@PhantomSturm]

The perfect system to address the Ram / DUI dilemma.

[@user-xn2zh2oi9r]

How does HI-strength Steel frame compare with aluminum frame

[@anoni81b4u]

here is a crazy idea ... Make a small pickup again

[@ThomasWilliams-lt6mn]

All of the truck manufactures need to go back to the basic pick-up truck that is a work horse with no fancy frills on them. We want something with great mileage and a price that does not send the buyer to the poor house.

[@jasonpitts8395]

Straight 6 is an awesome configuration. I bet that 520hp engine will be fun to drive

[@Dusdaddy]

Agreed. The only thing better than a straight 6 is a straight 8!

[@ducktails1695]

@@Dusdaddy The only thing that will do is burn more gas lol

[@Dusdaddy]

@@ducktails1695 Yeah but it'd be so cool. Think of the length of the engine bay/hood...lol

[@anthonyking4387]

How will a rubber timing belt ever live in oil, plus spray in cylinder liners! Also why less tow cap wt more torque

[@stuarthoffman5065]

So if I run out of battery can I just run the engine and charge the battery’s without plugging in?

[@1gr8oil]

@stuarthoffman5065..........................................YOu must have missed what the Engineer said. "GENERATOR" power from the 3.6 v-6 Engine recharges the Battery.

[@Paco_Burrito_Suave]

I think Ram should include a 4.0L inline 6 TT Hurricane for heavy duty applications. Like for 2500 and 3500 pickups and for a new super car like a Viper.

[@JarmelSingsKaraoke]

👏👏👏Great conversation guys 😊

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

RAM currently has 10% OFF MSRP on moat 2024 RAM pickups. Do they expect to sell higher priced 2025s without even more cash on the hoods?

[@ducktails1695]

Well RAM is trying to get rid of the 2024 models as the 2025 models are coming soon. This isn't any different than any other year. Customers are holding out on buying a 2024 to get a 2025 so throwing some cash down to try and persuade some of those customers into just getting a 2024.

[@Dusdaddy]

I find it amazing that you can get 2025 Rebel cheaper than you can a 2024 Rebel w/Hemi.

[@brandonv8721]

teach your dealers how to analyze and fix the air suspension, i'm on 9+ trips (10 TBD) on getting my air suspension fixed

[@lonerider5315]

If your crossed eyed, or have a lazy eye, prepare for non stop nudges from the seat😂

[@paulfeasal6024]

That's a lot of psi comming out of the 3.0 diesels.

[@Ishkatan]

I wanted to buy a RAM Rebel with air suspension, but with a 1067 lb payload, I and 3 fat friends can't bring travel luggage, have a topper or tow a 4000 trailer. Even limited trims only have 1384 lbs payloads. I will admit they ride nice when empty but a Honda Ridgeline Trailsport is rated at 1488 lbs.

[@Dusdaddy]

Whwere did they say that? I heard the Rebel has 1900lbs of payload. Dude, you got some seriously fat friends!

[@garysarratt1]

Tim showed one with 1,666# the other day.

[@Ishkatan]

@@garysarratt1 It would be devilishly good to have 1666 lbs payload. I went and looked at the truck physically to make sure the 0 was a zero and not an 8, but the door sticker still said 1067.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@Ishkatan You sure that wasn't a Tungsten? Those have a small payload. The 2024 Rebel is listed at 1580. Can't be far from that.

[@garysarratt1]

@@Ishkatan “Devilishly” 🤣

[@DH-mf2lv]

Agree

[@MrTonaluv]

Interesting chat but I'm not a RAM/Stellantis fanboy at all.

[@Kahless00]

If they're making 540hp at 2 bar that means that 3 lit is only making about 180hp without the turbos.

[@user-bl4ez3sh5g]

That payload sucks. My 19 Silverado LTZ z71 crew 5.3 has a payload of 1743lbs. I almost max it out towing my 7500lb travel trailer. After 750lb tongue weight, my family and gear in the bed, we almost max it out. The ride on it is fine

[@jghall00]

Class 8 trucks use a straight six. Naturally balanced engine configuration.

[@ryanb8736]

Spot on. This guy talking is the wrong guy for the company. He didn’t even explain the amazing technology in the straight 6 that makes it spectacular.

[@grego7345]

Thanks to Stellantis for giving the American car buyer vehicles that no one is asking for.

[@spencerelsbury9110]

Should have kept the diesel option

[@jjcastleberry3662]

RAM better listen to the American market and not Davos.

[@843MudMafia.]

They listen to the epa and that ceo

[@PWlangford1]

Sounds like an expensive electronic system to me 🇨🇦.

[@joatmon1857]

Name any vehicle that has a "cheap" one!?

[@Dusdaddy]

lol....hence the high prices of all these trucks.

[@mplslawnguy3389]

I love that we don't have much of a choice anymore. We can't just opt out and delete all these systems if we want to. I don't think I will be purchasing a new vehicle ever again to be honest.

[@seventhsun1982]

Instead of deconstructing the engine everybody loves, how about creating a mid-size version of the 1500 Rebel/Laramie that can fit in a garage and navigate through a parking lot a little more efficiently.

[@alexsolo4085]

It was called a dakota

[@tjmanifest]

I want a naturally aspirated, half-ton, non-hybrid V8, 4wd, seating for 6, and rear vents, so I'm limited to GM... hopefully their new V8 will be better than the current gen

[@ALMX5DP]

Dont Ford and Nissan offer that as well?

[@tjmanifest]

@@ALMX5DP To my knowledge, Ford doesn't have rear vents if you have the bench seat, and the Titan is dead

[@ALMX5DP]

@@tjmanifest I think both have 2024 models. Dont know about rear vents, but would that really be a deal breaker?

[@tjmanifest]

@@ALMX5DP I guess not an outright deal breaker, but GM can do it. It's more a really annoying oversight

[@mplslawnguy3389]

That's what I have, minus the rear vent, which I don't want anyways. Will be maintaining and fixing it indefinitely. Until rust takes it I guess.

[@davidrudd9846]

Talk to real world mechanics not engineers (company men)

[@pat2430]

How's that gonna help shillin trucks?

[@rogerrussell9544]

@0 Shillin isn't working very well for Ram dealers. I hope Stellantis helps dealers build bigger lots for storing everything nobody wants.

[@Mdan7]

No real world mechanic has seen this powertrain. Just trying to understand your comment and how it relates to this podcast?

[@pat2430]

@@Mdan7 oh buddy. The mechanics will see thus turd soon enough lol just you wait lol

[@ivanmarcinko9651]

@@Mdan7there’s nothing to understand about people who are yelling into the void.

[@shanewilson9250]

When are you all buying a new Ram for your battery of durability testing?

[@michael-mg3xo]

You might as well make up a bunch of resumes when nobody buys them because they don't want mini engines with multiple turbos no turbos big bore large cubic inch engines that is a truck the price is $30000 too much make a PU that's like a 52 chevy straight 6 1/2 ton thats 1000 lbs of load it got 20 mpg 1n 1955 some people don't need to pull a space shuttle while riding in a mercedes interior

[@redlightingwolf1985]

You want to V8 engines for Ford and GM.

[@SilverRaven1959]

Ford has the 5.0 Coyote which the 5.7 Hemi cant touch performance of MPG wise. GM needs a 6.2 to run with it. Machine shops repairing engines see more LS than any other make all fact! Now all of a sudden Toyota, GM and now RAM whatever say Twin Turbo small engines is great thing...something Ford did starting in 2009 Lincoln and 2011 the F150...same engine. lololol Its funny that all the GM RAM guys spread rumors about Ford with their Timing chain and how long will the Turbo's soon as you mention F150. Welp, how are all of you Fans gonna act when this Twin Turbo 3.0 Architecture starts blowing up due to high Cylinder pressures. 22 psi in an Ecoboost 3.5 makes well over 600HP....gonna be interesting!!!

[@MSchumacherfan]

Rebel needs front locker

[@Dusdaddy]

Yep. They need a 1500 version of the Power Wagon.

[@frankrhilljr]

Dumb move losing the v8. I've got the 2020 longhorn. The 350 engine (Noone calls it a 350). Natural aspiration avoids problems. Good luck fixing all those I6's

[@strykerentllc]

These new trucks are going tore a nightmare for owners and service technicians. If they were anything but unreliable in the longevity department, they would all come with a lifetime powertrain warranty at the minimum.

[@gregmoessner3104]

The working Prospecter should have massage seating or tradesmen instead of the soft pasty tungsten owners

[@privateer9181]

better figure out how to get that HO in all the lineup...not just for 85k or everyone will be buying fords and chevy. If they don't build anymore 5.7s they may need the 6.4 to rescue this truck...no one in the blue collar workforce can touch the HO price that's a slap in the face of all your customers. To say we only want white collar Mercedes owners to get the HO all you other can get the dumbed down engine. I bet the 6.4 in the HD gets better gas milage than the 3.0 in the 1500 towing 11k

[@superglidemustang]

" Can you say Hemi " ?...

[@roadglide1142]

I’d never buy a first or second year of this engine . I’d wait until the improvements were made . Im no corporation’s tester at these prices!

[@gcodejedi6140]

Any new EV manufacturer should also have a charging infrastructure investment plan. That is the most important aspect for EV adoption at this point. How is the manufacturer going to ensure a good and stress free charging experience? How are they going to contribute to the expansion of the DC fast charging network? This is where Ford failed and continues to fail.

[@bradzimmerman3171]

Stellantis “RAM “ sounds better than Fiat Ram except those who think it’s a DOdge lol

[@randyking1715]

V6 and anything electric sucks. People ask for and buy the V8 Hemi. Yet what does Stelantis do, they get rid of the very thing people will pay their ridiculous pricrs on. Amazing to watch them totally destroy CJRD so quickly.

[@843MudMafia.]

U thank the epa for your hemi u ain't know they was buying epa credits to keep that hemi around why waste money if u in business u make money not waste it

[@mplslawnguy3389]

Yeah, lets take an engine that works, and people want, and just get rid of it. Great strategy.

[@joefrasson8997]

V8 or roll it in the lake.....it is not just a saying...

[@freddyw4555]

The government made them go to turbos. Will the government help pay for new turbos at 100,000 miles and $25,000

[@webrbio3153]

That's just too bad... for Ram. I'll have to buy a used V8 truck that actually lasts... so not a Ram.

[@aaronbanks7555]

Yeah, he is definitely a"company man".🤔

[@Tony-hf9mv]

Not worth the price tag no matter what way you look at it. RIP RAM, DODGE, CHRYSLER, AND THE WAY IT IS GOING JEEP AS WELL

[@Dusdaddy]

Prices went down...

[@gregmoessner3104]

Not far enough

[@jaredelson1840]

Stellantis got rid of the Hemi engines because they got tired of having to buy billions of dollars of carbon credits to avoid fines from the government.

[@TheCRDMiller]

Marketing

[@emanuelbrister5903]

No way y’all can tell me y’all are not getting paid by ram, that truck looks the same.

[@seattleprowash5464]

the ford 2.7 is bulletproof . people sleeping on turbo engines

[@ducktails1695]

Turbo engines have certainly come a long ways from what they used to be. I think it's just the bad rap that got from years ago and people think nothing has been improved. I think Turbo charging is the way to go if people still want an ICE vehicle. These manufacturers need to figure out ways to keep emissions low while also maintaining good fuel economy. Turbo engines are a great way to do this as they can have smaller displacements that put out the same or even more power than NA engines with the same reliability.

[@adamtacheira5323]

I’m reminded of the scene in the original “Mad Max”. The scene where goose (I think) shows Max the interceptor. “It’s the last of the V8’s”! It’s coming guys and it’s not the manufacturers faults. This is all driven by our Government.

[@fabriciosantos8058]

L6? 😢😢😢

[@jrparker4804]

Why no V8? “We thought we’d bring something to the table that nobody asked for to address a non-problem. Also, we hate our customers while trying to see if we can snooker people into what could be a reliability disaster. We don’t know, but we thought America would be a nice test bed. Please, please, please buy one of these overpriced compliance motors.”

[@alexsolo4085]

And this is why mopar isn’t even an American brand. Just a bunch of corporate sellouts. I love my 2012 5.7l Ram, I have a bunch of upgraded parts on it, but it’s probably the last Ram or mopar vehicle I ever purchase.

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

Don't blame RAM for a small displacement twin turbo. Blame the eco-weenies, Democrats and EPA for CAFE requirements and fuel economy testing procedures. Fuel economy testing is done under light loads, essentially off-boost. A small three liter engine will eek out better MPG than a 5.7 or 6.4 liter V8. In the real world, you have to get on the boost to make the 3.0 liter perform and MPGs will drop. I'll take a normally aspirated larger displacement engine any day.

[@843MudMafia.]

Thank you everyone crying but they had over 10 years to update that hemi

[@rodneymiracle3224]

Is customers are screaming and telling the manufacturer what they don't want. What does the manufacturer do ignore the customer and build whatever they want. It's like they wanna shoot themselves in the foot.

[@DH-mf2lv]

They talk about emissions concerns. Since 1990 the USA greenhouse gas emissions has DECREASED by over 2%.

[@Dusdaddy]

Sure. What else you got? Wanna argue that we shouldn't have allowed women to vote?

[@jackthibodeau6810]

It’s not the companies fault it’s the government who thinks co2 is the devil.

[@DH-mf2lv]

Agree

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

STOP VOTING DEMOCRAT.

[@ryanb8736]

This guy is awful. He didn’t even explain what makes a straight 6 a better option for more power and added longevity. A straight 6 is a better design engine for more power and added longevity. It’s a legendary design in the automotive industry. He just blames it on the EPA. Those engineers who went old school to actually bring back the amazing straight 6 must be so upset with this guy. Can we actually hear from the engineers who built the engine from ground up. This guy is fired.

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

A 3.0 liter in a truck application running 22 or 28 pounds of boost to make power instead of a normally aspirated 5.7 or 6.4 liter has added longevity? You are out of your mind.

[@ryanb8736]

@@jimjones-pz1tt Let’s just say I’ve been around engine design and building engines for 36 years. You do understand that all trailer trucks have a straight 6 with huge turbos? All of them go over millions of miles. The most iconic engines ever built were straight 6. All are not the most desirable in the automotive world making way over 1000 hp with ease. They also last. 2JZ Toyota RB26 Nissan Skyline Barra Ford Aussie B58 BMW S58 BMW Fords best engine was a 4.9 straight 6. Nobody could blow it. Ford lost money on not repairing them. So back to the V8 they went.

[@ryanb8736]

@@jimjones-pz1tt N/A V8 all will have issues with higher HP. Too many moving parts to require a lift to make the power. Look at the Hemi chewing camshafts. GM 5.3 and 6.2 having valvetrain issue. All of them have to be so complicated to run, to pass emissions and idle. Much harder to work on. Now a straight six is simple design with only one head with so much less moving parts. All you need is a super thick block, huge water jackets for cooling, extra thick head gasket for intense boost and pressure, strong connecting rods and pistons. Simple. Add turbos on long runners with secondary cooling for insane power and massive cooling. It’s a simple recipe to make massive power with ease. A lot less stress than a V8 N/A. Straight 6 is easier to work on because of added room. They also cool faster because of more room. It’s not hard to understand if you’ve ever built engines.

[@ryanb8736]

@@jimjones-pz1tt The 5.7 was a complete dog that had lots of issues. Too many moving parts just to make it pass emissions. Look at all the problems they had. The only company doing good with their V8 is Ford Coyote. Although the V6 turbo is faster and makes more power. V block is a bad design, especially for turbo. A straight is more balanced.

[@Paco_Burrito_Suave]

You're right about the positives of a straight 6, but did Stellantis sufficiently beef it up to be tractor tough. Such as Ford's Barra turbo 4.0 L inline 6.

[@johnjagodzinski9878]

So, I guess Chrysler is going to finally have their products sound like rice burners across the board. No, thank you. I'll go get a Toyota on my next purchase.

[@MrTonaluv]

Haha a Toyota is a rice burner!

[@Youngmechanical]

Let's talk to this engineer after a year or so when the failures show up. Same power plant in the wagoner has proven to be terrible. Also we should talk about all these turbo engines from all manufacturers that have failed. Toyota, GM, Ford now ram

[@RC.Time-Crawlers]

Why so much $$$$$$ for 2 doors???? 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤬🤬

[@ryanb8736]

So what this guy is saying, EPA killed Dodge, so go to Ford and GM if you want a V8. He’s the worst guy chosen to speak for a company.

[@gregmoessner3104]

In a year on two they will be joining the six pack club

[@sunchaser999]

@@gregmoessner3104 depends on if people are buying into it. Could go either way.

[@methanial73]

A straight 6 is superior in many way to a V8. Better balance, better fuel economy. Since the same engineer that designed the Hemi is behind the Hurricane I'm confident it will be a great engine.

[@brandonsheffield9873]

Another useless truck focusing on electronics and computers.

[@bwer2]

We don’t want to talk electric Liberals 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Dusdaddy]

We don't want to talk politics either please.

[@bwer2]

@@Dusdaddy 🤣😂 Voted wrong huh?

[@mplslawnguy3389]

The govt and automakers will never admit what a failure EV implementation has been. They're in too deep, so they will keep hemorrhaging $ just to save face. 99% of people that drive trucks (which is a lot of people in the US) don't want them, but you'd never guess that with the propaganda being put out there.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@bwer2 Sleep fine, apparently you don't, too bad for you.

[@bwer2]

@@Dusdaddyspoken like an embarrassed democrat lol

[@bobcook8576]

Fiat sourced I6. Fix it again Tony.