No Sin City by Frank Miller Without Alack Sinner by Jose Munoz!

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[@artsymunoz9614]

Well, bién, muchas gracias and many thanks, I appreciate so much your respect, interest and appreciations about my, our work. José Muñoz

[@mikehailer9353]

One minute I'm minding my own business... Next thing I know I'm urgently scanning the internet for an affordable copy of a book I've never heard of by a creator I've never heard of. THAT'S The Kayfabe Effect.

[@CartoonistKayfabe]

Grabbed a couple copies before I hit "publish, myself. --Ed

[@shaizerbaizer657]

Love Muñoz's ability to distort the hell out of his characters while retaining readability. Hope to see you guys check out Breccia's Dracula sometime soon.

[@SteveLieber]

In that first volume it's wild to watch Munoz become himself. He starts as a solid craftsman with a nice sense of how to use black, but with every story he dives deeper into that amazing expressionism. I love his stuff so much.

[@carlosjosegarcia9806]

SIN(NER) CITY? ;-)

[@federicohorn9225]

💯 tal cual!

[@VIARideas]

I really appreciate this video very much. Jose Muñoz has been one of my idols and reference since the first time I saw his work. Excellent coverage you have given him here in your video!

[@ivanriskin1167]

Glad you're reviewing argentinian artists, would love to see you analizing Carlos Nine, Max Cachimba, Pablo Fayo or Podeti!

[@Bb186fo]

Another awesome one! Munoz work def seems to have had some influence on a few artists, Eduardo Risso & Frank Miller are the first that come to mind. Also wouldn't be suprised if Munoz was a bit of an influence of Paul Grist's (Jack Staff & Kane books) as well. Def been wanting to pick up both the Alack Sinner Volumes. I can't find either of them in shops ever, been hoping to get lucky on a Half Price Books run sometime but no such luck so far. Probably going to have to find it online. You guys should Def cover more European works, they def have some great qualities to them that sometimes American stuff misses the mark on. Great stuff though guys! This channel has become part of the daily routine!

[@artsymunoz9614]

For Jim and Ed and for all the people who wrote their opinions. It's nice to walk around talking about something that we like. I'm grateful.

[@cghirardo5951]

Huge fan of Sinner and Jose Munoz! Picked up Sinner when it was printed by Fantagraphics. Great artwork and superb stories.

[@cghirardo5951]

You need to check out their graphic novel Billie Holiday by NBM. Great biographical comic on the singer Billie Holiday.

[@PebblesMintstone]

I see some Taiyo Matsumoto as well. The linework is very expressive, to the point of making the figures look almost abstract, but then the poses/ body gestures look very natural, as if the drawings were based on sketches of random people in public.

[@XAVIERCUERVO]

so this is where Risso gets his black and white style damn im checking the web and this books are expensive

[@tiagoleikin4019]

Yep! And that chiaroscuro influence can be traced down to the uruguayan-argentinian master Alberto breccia.

[@shaizerbaizer657]

I always thought 100 Bullets would suit black and white better

[@jdsantibanez]

I have a 702-page Alack Sinner book!

[@mattbellisle2924]

I was fortunate enough to meet Munoz at LUCCA a couple years ago... I'm not sure if I got him at just the right moment, but he was sitting alone at his signing table with no line, so I got to talk with him for quite a while. He was so gracious and humble about his work. He sat and drew a quick, but amazing Alack Sinner ink sketch in my book too. Great stuff!

[@russworks2882]

I believe that expose about Keith Giffen's Ambush Bug written for TCJ by Mark Burbey put Munoz on the radar for a lot of us, though I'm sure I saw their story in Raw first ("Mr. Wilcox, Mr. Conrad", which I'd nominate for a close review by you guys). I think the notion of tweaking the establishment helped push those scamps at Fantagraphics to spotlight the Sinner material.

[@t.c.bramblett617]

Yeah! That was the one that I saw first too, in that big RAW compilation of the first 3 issues. I remember it really blowing my mind

[@bingobrigade]

Super influential artist Muñoz, really love his work

[@troynixeycomix]

"Spot your blacks first." Daaaaamn! Mind blown. Going to try this.

[@superblast]

The great Muñoz! Please also make a review on Eduardo Risso! His work goes way before 100 Bullets. With Carlos Trillo he created some powerful historietas. Thank you for this channel!

[@CartoonistKayfabe]

Recommend a good one (or two) to start with. - Jim

[@MonDiolas]

@@CartoonistKayfabe You can try with "Parque Chas", "El Ángel" and "Fulú", those are very good works by Eduardo

[@360ALBACETE]

@@CartoonistKayfabe Chicanos, Boy vampire!! Amazing stuff I recomend you Torpedo. A spanish series drawn by Jordi Bernet, the great influence of Risso. Risso is drawing now a continuation.

[@ShaneMatlock]

Keith Giffen took a lot of flak for his heavy Munoz influence.

[@ShaneMatlock]

@@franciscobello1519 Jim and Ed have discussed Trencher a little I believe during some Wizard coverage. I would love to see them do a Keith Giffen overview of his various styles from his early Kirby stuff to his more Byrneish style on Legion to his Munoz era to his crazy more original style on Trencher. A shoot interview with Giffen would be great too as he's usually a funny guy and he has decades in comics behind him.

[@euansmith3699]

12:11 😂😂😂😂😂 I had just finished typing, "Keith Giffen got a lot from this strip too. His artwork on "Legion of Superheroes: Quiet Darkness" really leaned heavily on Muñoz' work." I'd forgotten about "Fate".

[@kristianorellana5664]

just now seen this i love that when you mention the Keith Giffen swipping is just at the end of a history making fun of that

[@carlosnicolini1719]

Dudes, you don’t stop being Argentinean just because you move to another country.

[@bentancourtsantiago]

That is why Alberto Breccia should be considered as a uruguayan comic artist.

[@darioscomicschool1111]

Holy Moley! Marv, the 70s!!!!....only Different! Thank you for always illuminating my way, and the way of other Artists!

[@drugartwall]

Every lover of graphic novel and artist need to have this unique masterpiece! I have it on larger format... its beyond amazing... cant describe to anyone how good it is... Sometimes just watching panels will give you an inspiration to do some art yourself

[@darioscomicschool1111]

7:32 You mean he put in the blacks before he drew the rest....pretty bold°

[@t.c.bramblett617]

His stuff blew my mind when I first saw his work (also with Sampayo) in one of those early RAW books. RAW 2 issue 3 I think. One of those astonishing artists.

[@jyrkivainio425]

That "Age of Innocence" book was a revelation for me, because Sin City not only has similarities with those black shadows - but Munoz's style changes over time, and one period (early? I'm not sure) also the PEN LINES are totally Sin City. So the link is very clear with those specific stories in particular, much more than I'd thought previously. (I met Munoz in Angouleme once and he signed for me a book that also had portraits of the authors. The first thing he did: aged up his portrait. Blacked out the long hair and added wrinkles on the forehead.)

[@juansalvatore7450]

It reminds me of Dave McKean "Cages"!

[@BOSTLEMANN]

I have spent SO much money on comics because of this channel

[@carrion_man3700]

That thick, toothy paper stock is a delight! I love these editions.

[@pirhol]

I think also some panels by Seiichi Hayashi's Red Colored Elegy were a huge reference for Sin City, not for the characters but for backgrounds and enviroments.

[@dwaynemuth8775]

Wow! Excellent job as ALWAYS,guys! LMAO at the Giffen shot! Once again you got me very interested! Just found a Bode/Cheech Wizard collection n that’s coming home tomorrow! I like odd creative stuff as well as the mainstream! Variety is the spice of life! Thanks again! Keep reading and making comix!

[@mergopetrichor199]

I was just re-watching the Batman: Black & White episode and was hoping to get some Muñoz soon! Thanks for the timely (for me) video!

[@JamesParatiiArts]

Oh and Ed's trade paperback has turned up in my local comic shop here in Wellington New Zealand too! wrapped in plastic with an "ADULTS ONLY" sticker on it hahahah ( I have a copy on its way from US already )

[@artbyty]

Dang it! You are forcing me over my monthly comic budget!!!

[@crist_eastwood]

Woah! I didn't knew they were from my country...

[@montagethemovie5947]

Brilliant. Influence on Taiyo Matsumoto?

[@montagethemovie5947]

Dang you answered my question at 11:47. I jumped the gun. Dope

[@davideking]

Haha -- right when you mention Giffen swiping Munoz you're open to the diss track Sinner strip they did about an artist going to confront another artist who had plagiarized him. "I'm going to break his hands."

[@ES_Glenn]

What a gem

[@JamesParatiiArts]

Ted McKeever probably definitely was influenced by this artist, especially on Eddy Current! Mckeever would be another great artist to analyse. Plastic Forks or Metropol or Eddy Current! (Almost outlaw comics that one! ) xx

[@dudezillasf]

Definitely! I'd love to see these guys do a deep dive into his work - or an interview!

[@joshmeatbag1370]

Huge influence on me. I hope someone reprints Joe’s Bar, it’s my personal favorite.

[@seanvolk4202]

Not aware of this creator, but I’ll be checking into it

[@TheBump45]

I’m guessing 100 bullets took some influence from this

[@Able-Fader]

so filthy