No Space? Super Dense Tropical Food Forest Tour (Backyard)

[@weetalk5936]

you dont believe in pruning ur tropicals?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I don’t, particularly if the pruning will induce more harm to the trees. When pruning, you need to have a reason that suites your trees and environment.

[@TropicalGardeningCyprus]

My man, you made me smile with joy and happiness!!! I inherited a small house from my father, and when I moved here, the garden had 11 trees all local subtropical. During the last five years I added 62 tropical trees, while another nine are waiting for the next spring to be planted and I'm not stopping there! The ultimate goal is for no sunshine reaching the ground. So basically doing exactly what you are doing with the only difference that I grow a ton of cacti in pots under the shade, and also my garden has an average size pond and lots and lots of 100 to 400 gallon "ponds" under the trees (so that the moisture can help with the microclimate) for my stronger passion, the water lilies and other aquatic plants.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s awesome. The ponds will definitely help to slightly humidify the place. On occasions, I use some of my pond water to water the newly planted trees, as the water is quite nutritious to plant roots.

[@chiefogorganics3226]

this is why I I watch all your videos awesome collection bro. I working on mine saludos from Bakersfield 👍👊💯

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. I drive by your area all the time when on my way to the various tropical fruit tree nurseries in the LA region.

[@lilianarodriguez8056]

Oh my, I live in Fresno too!!! What a sight! Congratulations, this is awesome, gives me hope

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. There are so many tropical fruit trees that do very well in our climate. I’m really not sure where people get the notion that tropicals don’t grow here.

[@jlf9471]

@lilianarodriguez8056 what trees are you growing in Fresno? I live here too and am searching varieties to plant! 😊

[@TropicalCentralValley]

All sorts of tropical fruit trees. Here’s my current list: Achacha Alano Sapodilla Bearss Lime Biew Kiew Longan Black Diamond Wax Jambu Black Pearl Wax Jambu Black Sapote Booth Cherimoya Brewster Lychee Brown Turkey Fig Brown Turkey Fig (Improved) Bruce Canistel Caimito (Green) Caimito (Purple) Cara Cara Naval Orange Carrie Mango Cherimoya Climbing Wattle Coconut Cream Mango Comice Pear Corriente Mango D'Anjou Pear (Green) D'Anjou Pear (Red) Dancy Mandarin Dr. White Cherimoya Dragon Fruit (White Flesh) Dragon Fruit (Red Flesh) El Bumpo Cherimoya Falan Mango Fino De Jete Cherimoya Florigon Mango Fruit Cocktail Mango GA-866 Jujube Gamboge (Lemon Mangosteen) Geffner Atemoya Golden Glow Mango Golden Sweet Apricot Grapefruit Green Sapote Green Wax Jambu Grumichama Guamuchil Haden Mango Hawaiian Solo Papaya Ice Cream Banana Improved Meyer Lemon Inga Edulis (Ice Cream Bean) Inga Laurina (Yellow Ice Cream Bean) Jaboticoba Jackfruit Jamun (Duhat/Java Plum) Juliette Mango June Plum Kaffir Lime Kaimana Lychee Kari Starfruit Katimon Mango Keitt Mango Kent Mango Keo Savoy Mango Kesar Mango Kohala Longan Lancetilla Mango Lang Jujube Lemon Zest Mango Malay Apple Mamey Sapote Mandarin Manila Mango Medjool Date Palm Mexican Cream Guava Mexican (Maradol) Papaya Miracle Berry Nam Wah Banana Okrung Mango Orange Sherbet Mango Oro Blanco Pomelo Paw Paw Peter's Honey Fig Pickering Mango Pim Seng Mum Mango Pineapple Guava Pineapple Pleasure Mango Pitangatuba Rambutan Red Custard Apple Red Malaysian Guava Reed Avocado Rose Apple Ruby Supreme Guava Scarlet Jaboticaba Sichuan Peppercorn Sri Chompoo Longan Sri Kembangan Starfruit Strawberry Guava Suebelle Sapote Sugar Apple Sugarcane Jujube Surinam Cherry TFH-880 Fig Taiwanese Century Guava Thai Guava Thornless Indian Jujube Tropical White Guava Ugly Betty Mango Valencia Pride Mango Vietnamese Guava Violette de Bordeaux Fig W. Murcott Mandarin White Indian Guava

[@jlf9471]

@@TropicalCentralValley what have been your experiences growing different white sapote varieties? I'm looking into which one to get and looking for one that will do best in our climate as well as taste best and be hopefully prolific. My family would love to eat a ton of that fruit. Also do you have any experiences (good or bad)/would you recommend red Israel atemoya or paxton prolific (kj Pinks) Atemoya?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Virtually all sapote and sapodilla do well in the Central Valley, except the Mamey. The issue with sapote and sapodilla is that they would appreciate some sun protection for the first couple of years. In the case of the Green sapote, it absolutely cannot handle direct summer sun. As for the pink/red atemoyas, I had a Red Israel at one point which succumbed to a nasty winter (without any protection). As they mature, they should be able to handle the frost without any issues.

[@growingtropicalsandexotics]

Your fruit jungle is looking amazing! I'm getting tropical jungle vibes! 🤩

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I should change my channel to “Welcome to the jungle”.

[@MLHPChanel]

Please do a video on how to taking care of your fruit trees, I.e. pruning, fertilizing, etc. Thank you

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I actually do have dedicated videos covering those topics.

[@margaretmojica8190]

Just discovered your channel. I live in Bakersfield, 70 miles south of Visalia, so the information is relevant to me climate wise. I have 5 different figs growing in 15 gallon pots because figs are not something that ships well to grocery stores so they are unavailable. I have two different peach trees in 15 gallon pots because I am tired of seldom finding ripe peaches in the market. I have one loquat and one kumquat in 15 gallon pots because these are unavailable in grocery stores. I would not mind having a white sapote, but I don't think they will grow in pots.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s awesome. I drive by Bakersfield all the time, usually when on my way to the LA region. Almost all tropical fruit trees do well in containers, including a white sapote. I would not, for example, put a mulberry or moringa in a container as they are super fast growers with extensive root system. I recently made a video on the topic of growing tropical fruit trees in containers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inyvhqyEZ999frc Specific to white sapote, your local Lowe’s may carry them in May/June. That’s where I got mine.

[@1sherek]

Thank you for the tour of your tropical yard during winter this gives me an idea what I can or shouldn’t grow in my area. I live in Oregon, close to the coastal areas and thinking of growing tropical trees in the house for now until we build a greenhouse in the spring.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Although your region is a bit cold, you may actually be able to get away with some of the more hardy tropical fruit trees. Without knowing your USDA Zone, and assuming it’s 8 - 9, you may be able to grow loquats, cherimoya, jamun, Capulin cherry, Surinam cherry and jaboticaba in the ground.

[@jonasdubaere8999]

love your vids man, much love

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you.

[@lindasbackyardgardening]

It's very interesting that you mentioned growing tropical fruits that you've tasted growing up as a child. I'm doing the same thing. Born in Asia eating tropical and subtropical fruits was a delicacy and a special treat when I was a child. Now I want to replicate that surreal feelings in my backyard. And you've accomplished it. I'm so jealous.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

You definitely can replicate growing the trees and fruits you were used to in our region. Hopefully some of my videos help with the replication process.

[@lindasbackyardgardening]

@@TropicalCentralValley Yes your videos have been very helpful and you have been so kind to reply back with all my questions. I have tons of Q's but I don't want to kill you with all of them all at the same time, lol 😂. Need you alive for my trees.

[@alaskanprideseafoods1766]

Hello! Much appreciate all your videos. Always inspiring. I live in Phoenix, AZ. I have a Peanut Butter tree in the ground for a year and a half now, slow grower, around 4 ft tall, but did fruit last summer. I have a White Sapote in a pot I want to plant this spring and I'm thinking of planting it close to the peanut butter tree. Do you have a suggestion on how much space would be good to leave between the trees? I'm thinking they are both slow growers, but eventually the Sapote will be more of a canopy tree and the peanut butter will be kept as more of a bush. Thanks in advance!

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s awesome. From the perspective of space, many of my tropical fruit trees are planted just feet’s apart, particularly with my slower growing and smaller sized trees. For instance, my white sapote is about 3 feet away from my mango, atemoya, and wax jambu trees and they all do fine.

[@mjt2582]

Great video, amazing what you’ve built, well done sir

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you.

[@hgun48]

Awesome giving me lots of inspiration for zone 9 growing!

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you.

[@themangovista]

All of your trees look very healthy👍👍

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you.

[@rockers7889]

Yes with the exception of few brown mango leaves , I would be very pleased with the leafs appearance 🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿

[@TropicalCentralValley]

We’ve been going to 2 weeks of straight 100° plus days. The mango tree had to share its energy with the mango fruits, otherwise, it would have looked nice.

[@TropicalGardenGuy]

Impressive!

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. You too have amassed a very impressive yard.

[@Callikesfish]

You have a awesome garden, do you grow most of your tropical fruit trees in pots. And would you need to up grade the pot regularly.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. The majority of my trees are in the ground. The ones growing in containers get upsized when appropriate.

[@SiddKundu]

Really nice garden. You have planted really close. Some of them look like less than 1 metre apart. I have very limited space and your video really encourages me. My concern is as the tree grows will they be then fighting for space? So you have to eventually prune heavily ? What's your strategy as your trees grow bigger and spread out

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I have since made a video which covers this debunked myth: Tropical Fruit Tree Myths kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6POkKZtm9WGiKM

[@douglashart5059]

Beautiful back yard!! Subscribed!

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you.

[@joekunin]

I love the high green canopy. Doesn't it make fruit harvest and tree maintenance difficult though?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Not really. I have telescopic pickers and cutters that definitely makes life easier.

[@joekunin]

@@TropicalCentralValley That is good to know indeed. Thanks!

[@TropicalCentralValley]

You’re very welcome.

[@waynema2104]

Appreciate your video. What is the distance between your fruit trees?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Many are a few feet apart.

[@EnlightenmentGarden]

Impressive collection! You really pack them in and I think you need more Manila mangos :) How old is that large Inga and has it ripened fruit yet? Thanks!

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. My ultimate goal is to see no sunlight hitting the ground. I have great plans for the Manila. They will serve as great rootstock hosts to other mango varieties. My Inga is going 4 years old, but the winter of 2018-2019, it died down to the roots due to the frost. It has since made a great comeback. Lots of flowers. I haven’t spotted any beans yet.

[@EnlightenmentGarden]

@@TropicalCentralValley Thanks for the reply! There is a youtuber out in my area (Arizona Fruit Trees) that also has a huge Inga but has never seen fruit. It's maybe the lack of humidity as people in San Diego and FL seem to have no issues even when they are young to get fruit but its a beautiful and beneficial tree even without fruit. One more question--do you apply gypsum? Thanks again.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I know of Jay and have watched his channel. He’s my go to for all things compost. I have not used gypsum and instead, rely on my mulch and organisms to improve and loosen my soil.

[@joycemcinnis5457]

This too is my goal. I have many fruit trees. Please tell me what size containers & where did you get them.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

The 25 gallon containers were purchased from Mimosa Nursery in Los Angeles. I made a video last year touring the place: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5eyfoKJqNp6f9E

[@artgarcia2340]

Another great video!!! Your collection continues to grow. I have a few seedlings of sunset solo papaya, and Mexican papaya that im going to put in ground as well. I have 1/2 acre lot to work with

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. In terms of space, you’re good for a while. Your trees will love it.

[@ChadGardenSinLA]

You're 100% correct - taste memory is the reason why I moved to Los Angeles so I can grow atis. I was only 3 when I left the Philippines, but my most fond memories was eating atis with my grandmother. Growing up in the US Army and moving around all over the world, it was impossible to acquire fresh atis - let alone grow them in places like Germany, Japan, and Maryland. Let's be honest, even my first atis died in the ground when I first bought my house L.A. - so even here they can be a challenge to get started. Thanks to you, I learned about Mimosa Nursery. I went there a few days ago and purchased an atis tree as well as a red atemoya. I'm next to Korea Town and I'm told, for good measure, do not transplant them into the ground until May. What's your opinion on this? The central valley is in zone 9, while I'm in Zone 10a. But I've seen some of my plants at the edge of my property turn deciduous because of wind gusts - I guess even in the 40's, winds can have a chilling effect like it was 32F.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s awesome. Sugar apple trees are a bit cold sensitive and may drop their foliage stressed, however, the tree itself is fine and will likely grow replacement foliage when it feels ready. Although your climate practically never experiences frost, to err on the side of caution, I’d wait until at least April to put it in the ground. If waiting until May, it may actually be a bit too hot and the tree itself may stress due to the heat. Once established, the tree loves the heat.

[@ChadGardenSinLA]

@@TropicalCentralValley That's very helpful! Thank you very much. I'll wait until April. By then our coolest temps are in the 50's at night.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

You’re very welcome.

[@WeThePeople001]

My sugar apples are in full sun and doing great, I see yours are covered a bit 🤔

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s great. Mine was planted about 3 months ago and as such, it’s roots are still finding its place in the ground. This is normally not an issue, however, when the weather hits 105° for 2 weeks, with about 15% humidity, the tree will appreciate some help.

[@MsFishingdog]

You have a very nice tropical garden. Do you think it helps to plant the trees close together.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. No. My previous front yard video goes into details on why my trees are feets apart.

[@pamb7560]

Thanks for sharing your beautiful tropical jungle! Question: the plants that are in pots, do you let the roots grow into the ground?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. I tried not to let the roots grow beyond the containers, but with the amount of mulch I have surrounding the containers, this is difficult. I have had to sever the container roots before and it’s not a pleasant process, but in order to relocate the containers, it must be done.

[@pamb7560]

@@TropicalCentralValley You’re welcome. Thanks for your reply. Appreciate.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

You’re very welcome.

[@francisbautista6299]

Is your Capulin Cherry still alive? Its super fast growing but very frost sensitive I’ve heard?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Very alive and approaching 15 feet tall. It’s one of the most frost hardy tropical fruit trees. Winter doesn’t even touch it.

[@Carbon5.0]

Also, do you have a link for those big plastic pots? They look solid! I would love to find some as well

[@TropicalCentralValley]

The 25 gallon black containers were all purchased from Mimosa Nursery in Los Angeles. As I recall, they were about $12 a piece. Being the size they are, I don’t know you can get them for that price if purchased online, particularly with shipping costs.

[@ugoumoren9201]

Just watched your video on your backyard tropical fruits. How much land/ space do you have?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Just the backyard, where I have dirt, about 1,500 square feet. Including the front yard, about 2,000 square feet total.

[@cassking4079]

Do you have any plans on trying to grow a coconut? Reading on the palm forums some apparently bear fruit in palm desert and also by the salton sea. Kind of similar climate to yours. I’m trying to grow a dwarf Malaysian green and yellow and they survived last winter. I’m near Santa Barbara on the coast. So far the yellow has preformed a little better. They’re averaging a new frond every month to 1.5 months.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Probably no just because “fresh” coconuts are readily available for me to purchase from my local grocery stores. The Yellow Malayan variety (presumably what you had) is purported to be frost hardy.

[@annieoneill3876]

I have a wax champu tree for more than 5 years. Tree is planted next to the house facing south. Very healthy, but no fruits ( got a few fruits when I got it). Any suggestions such as how to prune it or what kind of fertilizer I should use?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s odd. Even from seed, they generally produce fruits within 5 years. As with all of my tropical fruit trees, during the flowering stage, I would increase the phosphorus and potassium while eliminating nitrogen entirely. Also, see if you can increase your watering around that time as well.

[@tinyjungle_]

I have a very similar philosophy as you. Another reason I'm getting away from Stone fruits and deciduous trees is because of the chill hour requirements and the variability and the erratic nature of our weather here (SoCal). We get random 90° + weather in winter and spring which really confuses the deciduous trees.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s awesome. Besides, apples, peaches and other stone fruits can be picked up easily at your grocery store.

[@tinyjungle_]

@@TropicalCentralValley exactly and many farmers markets around here supply some of the more desirable varieties of stone fruits too.

[@vimeopictures5170]

even I have extreme weather conditions in my region. What is the min and max temperature in your region?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Our lows in the winter are -3.33°C and summer days will reach 46.11°C.

[@Carbon5.0]

Do you get pest problems such as roaches with all the mulch? If so, do you do anything? Thanks!

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I wouldn’t say it’s a problem. I do have earwigs, pill bugs, roaches, etc. that live in my wood chip and mulch. However, just like the worms, these insects serve as the primary decomposers and their activities greatly benefit my yard. Additional, these insects very much prefer the outdoors where there’s plenty of food and shelter.

[@antavina1]

Do you any problems with the bamboo creeping? I want to add some in my yard .

[@TropicalCentralValley]

No, I have not, as all of mine are the clumping varieties.

[@antavina1]

@@TropicalCentralValley What type do you have? I like the look on that one

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Old Ham’s bamboo, also known as Giant Timber bamboo.

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy26]

Do you amend the soil before planting in the ground and do you do it differently for acid loving trees vs no acid loving trees ?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Absolutely. Almost all of my tropical fruit trees prefer slightly acidic soil, hence my incorporation of elemental sulfur.

[@JulieVeganista]

Hi, I see most of your trees are not planted in the ground. Why so? I would love to keep them on the container so I can buy more fruit trees too. Can you tell me your experience in leaving them on containers and what tropical fruit thrive on containers? Thank you. I love your content always interesting to me.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. The majority of my trees are in the ground, but about 20% are in containers. The trees in the ground will always do better than the ones in containers due to the mycorrhizal network and other resources made available to the trees. The trees in containers require consistency, particularly when it comes to watering and fertilizing. Additional, the black containers get really, really hot; this ends up hindering and sometimes harming the growth of the tree.

[@JulieVeganista]

@@TropicalCentralValley Thank you for your reply. This is helpful when considering leaving the trees in the container. Please keep making videos. We enjoy them very much.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

You’re very welcome.

[@groundedangelsgarden]

Smart thinking! We only have Red Malaysian guava and papaya in our yard so far. Which 5 fastest growing tropical fruit trees would you recommend for containers on a small, but sun-scorched patio? Thanks.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Jamun, also known as Duhat and Java Plum for sure. Super fast growing. Also try the Capulin Cherry. Both can take the heat and grows insanely fast. You’ll want a relatively large size container, maybe a 25 gallon.

[@hanaluong2672]

What is the square footage of your backyard? It seems quite large.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Front and backyard, where there is dirt, about 2,000 square feet

[@hanaluong2672]

@@TropicalCentralValley Wow. Your forest is dense. Congratulations from Silicon Valley.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. In your region, your climate is quite favorable to the growing of tropical fruit trees.

[@hanaluong2672]

@@TropicalCentralValley That is why I am watching your channel, the second one on tropical fruits that I find compatible with me, in terms of the yard size and zone 9b.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

That’s awesome. As the saying goes, the best tropical fruit trees are those planted 25 years ago, but it’s never too late to start planting one now.

[@vimeopictures5170]

Which one tastes better? Santol or mangosteen?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Taste is extremely subjective. This being the case, I enjoy both.

[@vimeopictures5170]

@@TropicalCentralValley both taste the same or different? Which one is the sweetest? Also, which one is more hardy? If you had limited space, which one out of these 2 will you grow?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I wouldn’t use sweetness as a guideline for taste. If seeking sweet, the Manila mango is the world’s sweetest fruit. In terms of hardness, the Mangosteen is incredibly sensitive to both cooler and hot temperatures. If your climate permits, I would try both.

[@pamb7560]

Watching again, I noticed your Lancetilla is in a pot!! I’ve wanted to try one in a pot, but I’ve been hesitant. How big is your pot? How long has it been in the pot?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Mango trees do very well in containers. In fact, for starters, I would argue that they do much better in containers than in the ground, as they require a very particular set of soil requirements. Mine has been in the 25 gallon container for 2-3 years now.

[@pamb7560]

@@TropicalCentralValley Thank you so much. Do you have a video on soil requirements for mango trees?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I have not done a video yet covering soil. The main issue with mango trees obtained from nurseries is the fact that the majority of them originated from Florida, with wood based “soil” in the container, which basically allows the tree to stay alive for a few years. Ideally, you’ll want to replace the original soil with your own, however, this is a tricky and time consuming process.

[@pamb7560]

@@TropicalCentralValley Thanks for your reply. I actually live in Florida, and the nurseries here use a lot of sand in their pots

[@TropicalCentralValley]

In that case, you’re in luck. Due to California laws, Florida is prohibited from sending soil to us.

[@damehinojosa334]

When is the best time to plant inga? Also what is your most productive mango variety?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Best would be beginning of April, when the threat of frost is completely gone. Or, September if you want the tree to go through its first winter, though I would recommend you frost protect it. Manila mango does very well and is quite productive. Lancetilla mango as well, though, they’re a bit less forgiving.

[@tinyjungle_]

Is that a red Ilama? Would you be willing to sell some budwood? Thanks as always for the great educational content.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Mine is. I don’t sell any of my tropicals, but I’m more than happy to send you some when I prune it.

[@tinyjungle_]

@@TropicalCentralValley that is very generous of you and I would greatly appreciate that. Let me know if you're looking for something in particular and I may be able to trade you something. Thanks again! Greg

[@rockers7889]

Do you ever have leaf miners on your new citrus leaves ? I get them here in Cerritos . They slip past my spraying of Captain Jack's spinosa (organic) . Recently my 12 cocktail/champagne grapefruit seedlings were fine and had dark green leaves , then the outer larger leaves were hit bad . I was told that they dont hurt the tree but it still must cut back energy the baby's are absorbing from sunlight ?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Some of my citrus trees, particularly the Kaffir Lime and the Cara Cara orange trees do get leaf miners. Unfortunately, once they’re in the leaves, the best option is to pluck the leaves and trash it. I had been planning on using products such as Tanglefoot, but was too late this year, as the moths had already woke up.

[@rockers7889]

@@TropicalCentralValley my yard is filled with a unusually high amount of butterflies and moths this year ? Some varieties I haven't seen in years ?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Can’t tell if that’s a great sign or a bad sign. I’d just keep an eye on your plants, for potential pest issues.

[@rockers7889]

@@TropicalCentralValley I have 12 established citrus trees and see giant swallowtail butterflies often as they lay their eggs in citrus . No major damage to report so far . As a matter of fact I have only found 1 cacoon ever . They are really beautiful to watch . The male and female have similar but different markings . I guess because when I was a kid at my old house , a elderly neighbor gave me a butterfly collection and I naturally became interested

[@mpenney23]

Your jungle fruit forest is awesome. I’d like to create something similar on my half acre but many of my tropicals are looking stunted and just not growing. Not sure why I think I over watered some of them or maybe they don’t like my alkaline water

[@TropicalCentralValley]

Thank you. Some fruit trees are more forgiving than others. As a non-native tree, tropical fruit trees need some help with adjusting to our climate.

[@aracelyvallejocontreras4683]

In my expeeience growing tropicals, I have seen trees seem stunted, not growing, same size no new growth but then 2 maybe 3, sometimes less years they get a super growth spurt. I guess they are trying to adapt and are not familiar with there new home. I also seen grafted trees have a longer adjusting period than a seedling.

[@mpenney23]

@@aracelyvallejocontreras4683 hey thanks that gives me some hope, are you also in zone 9b?

[@huotlor255]

You can grafted or air layering or even grow from seed and sell, what is your city name in Central valley?. I interest in visiting your plants, I live in Lakewood next to Long Beach.

[@TropicalCentralValley]

I’m in Visalia. There are actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the Los Angeles region, near your area.

[@WeThePeople001]

No Moringa?

[@TropicalCentralValley]

No, no space.