No Survivors: The Horrific Sinking of HMAS Sydney

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Oceanliner Designs

Oceanliner Designs

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In November 1941 the HMAS Sydney and HSK Kormoran engaged in a fierce gun battle that left Kormoran crippled and Sydney lost with all hands. This documentary film explores the events of that fateful day and attempts to explain how the Kriegsmarine's auxiliary cruiser Kormoran was able to engage and sink the Royal Australian Navy Leander-class light cruiser HMAS Sydney.
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Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s great ocean liners - from Titanic to Queen Mary but not forgetting the likes of Empress of Ireland or Chusan. Join Mike Brady as he uncovers the myths, explains the timelines, logistics and deep dives into the lives of the people and ocean liner ships that we all know and love.
0:00 Introduction
0:55 War breaks out
2:58 Commerce raiders
4:30 Kormoran: The Hunter
9:21 HMAS Sydney; The Pride of Australia
16:17 The Chase
21:25 The Battle
26:36 The Loss
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@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
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@noahralston
@noahralston 5 ай бұрын
What is the background music called?
@develfirepro7786
@develfirepro7786 4 ай бұрын
I cry when the Sydney sank into the ocean
@Werderbremen556
@Werderbremen556 3 ай бұрын
It is historically wrong at 29:12 of the footage that the shown gun of Kormoran was a 10,5 cm caliber. Kormoran did not carry guns of this caliber. Except torpedoes, light AA guns of 2 cm caliber and 2 adapted Anti tank guns of 3,7 cm caliber, Kormoran was armed with 6 SK ( rapid fire guns ) 15 cm L/ 45 c/13 in 6 single mountings. The guns were of pre WW 1 construction and came from the old pre dreadnought ship-of-the-line SMS Schlesien, a participant of the battle of jutland 1916. They had a much shorter range than sydneys 6 inch guns.There were 4 on the foredeck side by side, 2 on starboard and 2 on portside and another 2 on the afterdeck, behind each other. This installation meant that during Kormorans battle with Sydney her broadside had only 4 guns of 15 cm caliber against Sydneys 8 of 6 inch , leaving 2 guns in firelee which could not be used. Despite this Kormorans gunfire at pointblank range was way to much for the much more powerfull australian light cruiser. This was solely the fault of sydneys captain Burnett, who was responsible for the loss of his ship, the the death of his crew of 645 and the total defeat in this battle by coming carelessly way too close to Kormoran with his crew not at battlestations. It were these blunders of captain Burnett that gave Kormoran the chance to sink the cruiser. This is the only time in history of war at sea that an armed merchant cruiser sank a regular cruiser, in other cases like hms devonshire against Atlantis and hms cornwall against Pinguin, the regular cruiser sank the merchant cruiser from a distance with supreme gunfire easily, leaving the enemy ship no chance. If Burnett would have survived he would have been surely court martialed for his incompetence with the expected verdict of a dishonorably discharge from the RAN. On the contrary the radiant winner of this battle was captain detmers who desperatly used every allowed trick or stratagam to lure sydney into the range of his outdated guns knowing that this was his only chance and actually managed to sink sydney against all odds. It is a shame that Dermers was accused of murdering swimming sydney survivors with machine gun fire by some australian writers without any evidence except anti german resentment. It was not until the discovery and exploration of both wrecks that all acusations against Detmers and his crew were proven incorrect and that his battlereport given in war captivity , especially of sydneys battledamage, was correct to the point. 0:04
@michaelfrost4584
@michaelfrost4584 Жыл бұрын
As an ex Australian Navy sailor, the Captain had a bad habit of going too close to other unknown ships. This time he payed the price with his ship and ALL the men. Yet the Australian authorities kept this quiet for years. I am one of the lucky ones who have read the whole report after HMAS Sydney was found as a military mate was part of the report which l read.
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
Yep. Organisations are full of b.s. Nowadays , there's a whole lot of new b.s that's gonna sink ships and kill people.
@casualobserver7867
@casualobserver7867 Жыл бұрын
Arrogance, it’s been a wonderful thing throughout history.
@johnleighton13
@johnleighton13 Жыл бұрын
Dxx
@deathdooddieimmortal.therian
@deathdooddieimmortal.therian Жыл бұрын
Dumas captain he is in hell if you want to no
@Alex_Guy1011
@Alex_Guy1011 Жыл бұрын
Closing on suspicious ships was a tried tactic of most skilled and seasoned officers before, and Burnett can't obviously have the blame thrown at him.
@johnsepulveda443
@johnsepulveda443 Жыл бұрын
The worst part is knowing the captain of this ship had a letter telling him of a possible Q ship in the area telling him not to get to close to identified ships but he did it anyway and it cost everyone’s life on his ship
@silvertbird1
@silvertbird1 Жыл бұрын
That is terrible, I guess he was overconfident. So many paid for his poor decision.
@Shivian124
@Shivian124 Жыл бұрын
Yep seriously FFS they had a lightly armed ship and it's absolute weakness was close quarters against an unidentified ship. What on earth was he thinking??? Insanity.
@EinfachFredhaftGaming
@EinfachFredhaftGaming 10 ай бұрын
The captain certainly wasn't a droid simply following orders to shoot all and everything from kilometers away without absolute certainty. If you act as cruel as your enemy, why even fight the enemy?
@oldrabidus2230
@oldrabidus2230 10 ай бұрын
Hindsight 20/20.
@YoutubeJailhouseWine
@YoutubeJailhouseWine 10 ай бұрын
​@@oldrabidus2230 That does not fit in this context little buddy. Nice try to seem wise tho when you know nothing at all.
@foxesofautumn
@foxesofautumn Жыл бұрын
My great uncle was lost on this ship and I remember my nan, his sister, speculating ways he might have survived. It’s horrible that the families were kept in the dark for so long after the war.
@vivinamorrison
@vivinamorrison Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry.😢
@Nicodemus1971
@Nicodemus1971 Жыл бұрын
My Great Uncle, Bobby Platt was also lost on this ship. Did you go to the memorial when they found it a few years ago? My parents were taken over by the RAN to lay a wreath above where it sank.
@AmishHitman73.Archive
@AmishHitman73.Archive Жыл бұрын
@@Nicodemus1971 7 days later and still no answer, id assume the person read this and just wont answer because the answer is not yes
@rainbowstones5431
@rainbowstones5431 Жыл бұрын
My paternal grandfather was lost on the Sydney too
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 11 ай бұрын
So very sorry! My grandpa died on the Lancastria...he was in the British military!
@nedkelly9688
@nedkelly9688 8 ай бұрын
There was 1 Australian survivor of the battle that we know of who passed away in the lifeboat Able Seaman (AB) Thomas Welsby Clark, from New Farm in Brisbane, was found on Christmas Island by locals but was not reported for 60 years. The lifeboat is in a museum in Australia.
@fz7091
@fz7091 29 күн бұрын
Wow he is already identified
@madbain79
@madbain79 Жыл бұрын
the preservation of the ships are incredibly haunting, its as if they've been preserved so well by the ocean as a warning to those that forget the horrors of war
@philiprufus4427
@philiprufus4427 Жыл бұрын
Read about this forty years ago when I was a youngster. The tragedy of lt has stayed with me ever since,and I have read many naval histories. Why the skipper and his command allowed such indifference I will never know. I never heard such stories from any veterans of The Royal Navy in my family and there were a few. It bare's testimony that those lads gave one H - - - off an account of themselves to the very end. Still rankles with me that such a fine ship and her crew came to such a rotten end,on a par with The Hood. Probably feel it more because so many reletives served at sea.
@andrewfrank1119
@andrewfrank1119 Жыл бұрын
Word choice is rather poetic, but I agree.
@Chili.P
@Chili.P 11 ай бұрын
Well they get presered until chinese scrap haulers illegally steal all the metal from it. Imagine that, stealing from a grave site for nothing more than some money for the metal.
@wlpxx7
@wlpxx7 10 ай бұрын
isnt it the complete opposite? Wont the rust be faster in salty water
@nedkelly9688
@nedkelly9688 8 ай бұрын
@@philiprufus4427 More rotten end was HMAS Canberra who was sunk by a incompetent USA captain and it's crew. After a British Admiral said HMAS Canberra and her crew were a insult and embarrasment to the royal navy as never fired a shot and was sunk by a japanese ship. Years later the truth came out. no appolgy from Britain of course.
@kylemorris1484
@kylemorris1484 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was on the Kormoran. Having spent the remainder of the war as a POW, he returned to Australia to raise a family.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a remarkable turn of events. I find it so hard to believe that my German friends and I, if born a couple of decades earlier, would have been trying to kill one another. War is a truly horrible, horrible thing.
@kylemorris1484
@kylemorris1484 Жыл бұрын
@@OceanlinerDesigns True. I used to struggle with Anzac Day. As a child I used to hate the day, feelings of shame,guilt and the like. I often found myself lying about who my grandfather fought for. Times have changed and I can now talk about my grandfather's experiences. Our T
@atrajitroy1
@atrajitroy1 10 ай бұрын
Did he ever talk to you about Sydney?
@johngordon9387
@johngordon9387 10 ай бұрын
My grandfather's brother, Alfred Horwood Shepherd, was on HMAS Sydney that fateful day
@kylemorris1484
@kylemorris1484 10 ай бұрын
@@johngordon9387 My condolences to you.
@ianbray5946
@ianbray5946 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I had the honour to command four ships during my career , what Burnett did resulting in the loss of Sydney was unforgivable. Thank you for your great videos. Kind regards, Ian
@goodshipkaraboudjan
@goodshipkaraboudjan 11 ай бұрын
Yes because by modern standards we can judge him.... FFS as a WSO impossible to say what they saw and knew.
@thefrenchbaguette919
@thefrenchbaguette919 8 ай бұрын
@@goodshipkaraboudjan yes but he was warned that there was a possible auxiliary cruiser in the area but still continued to approach a vessel that continuously refused to properly identify itself
@nedkelly9688
@nedkelly9688 8 ай бұрын
@@goodshipkaraboudjan Research the story and truth. this captain was known to get too close to unidentified ships. he was warned of this ship in the area and was told not to get too close also..Was complete captain error Not as bad as American captain sinking HMAS Canberra though.
@epck
@epck 7 ай бұрын
​@@nedkelly9688what a shame
@kiwibob8967
@kiwibob8967 6 ай бұрын
@nedkelly9688 "Not as bad as American captain sinking HMAS Canberra though." If you are implying that the Canberra was accidentally sunk by friendly fire, then the following quotes disagree. 1. Ref: www.awm.gov.au/articles/encyclopedia/ww2_navy/savo "In the darkness of the early hours of the morning of 9 August 1942 the RAN heavy cruiser HMAS Canberra was severely damaged off Guadalcanal (Solomon Islands) in a surprise attack by a powerful Japanese naval force in an action that became known as the Battle of Savo Island. Canberra was hit 24 times in less than two minutes and 84 of her crew were killed including Captain Frank Getting. Following an order to abandon ship the Canberra was sunk the next day by a torpedo from a US destroyer." 2. Ref: www.navy.gov.au/history/feature-histories/battle-savo-island-loss-hmas-canberra-i "Admiral Turner ordered that Canberra (I) be abandoned and sunk if she could not raise steam. Once all survivors had been evacuated, Selfridge fired 263 5-inch shells and four torpedoes into Canberra (I) in an attempt to sink her. Eventually a torpedo fired by the destroyer Ellet administered the final blow."
@jasonfernee2401
@jasonfernee2401 Жыл бұрын
I find it amazing that literally nobody survived from HMAS Sydney despite it remaining afloat well into the night. Not a single life raft got away. It must have been hell on earth for those still alive and she went down. RIP to her brave crew.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Жыл бұрын
Read about HMS Neptune in the Mediterranean in 1941. She was mined only a few miles off Tripoli. Crew of 765. One survivor.
@seventytwo1001000
@seventytwo1001000 Жыл бұрын
AB Thomas Welsby Clarke made it off the ship and probably a few others, however the currents were not with them and only AB Clark who was unknown till last year was found washed up dead on Christmas Island
@Ultimaton100
@Ultimaton100 Жыл бұрын
It’s now known at least one life raft managed to break free from Sydney with a survivor of the battle in it who sadly didn’t survive to make landfall, a sailor by the name of Thomas Clarke. He’s since been reburied with proper military honors. He did make it home, posthumously.
@freshair9315
@freshair9315 Жыл бұрын
BS. There was one life raft recovered. It is now in the Canberra war memorial. It happens to be the Carley float assigned to my father.
@thequestioner5916
@thequestioner5916 Жыл бұрын
​@seventytwo1001000 There were probably more bodies that washed up on indonesia and india
@spyran5839
@spyran5839 Жыл бұрын
In a Book i read on German auxiliary cruisers, after a paragraph talking about the Battle it talked about a woman visiting an Australian graveyard. She had two flowers with her one for her beloved husbands grave whom she is nover gonna see again and one for the grave of a young german sailor, who died in the cities hospital after the best effort of the doctors to save him had failed. That pargraph nearly made me cry.
@R.Lennartz
@R.Lennartz Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the book?
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing Жыл бұрын
Lovely story but who would know this besides her? Don't believe everything you hear
@spyran5839
@spyran5839 Жыл бұрын
@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing The author wrote, that German POWs remaining in australia after the war told him about it.
@spyran5839
@spyran5839 Жыл бұрын
@@R.Lennartz It's called "Das große Abenteuer. Deutsche Hilfskreuzer 1939-45" Translated "The great adventure. German auxiliary cruisers 1939-45" Since it's written by a German it's not entirely unbiased, but it does a good job of combining letters and personal statements of the crews and POWs, aswell as Allied and Axis books and reports on the matter. I sadly don't think there is an english version of the book. It also has maps of each ships routes and black and white pictures the crews made, which do look very nice.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
@@spyran5839 sounds like a great book. I have a copy of an english translation of Detmers' book. that one is... amazing in terms of learning what it was like to have been there. some ralyl weird stuff like how Detmers was trying to avoid the HMS Cornwall when he ran into Sydney...
@kirkcruz3764
@kirkcruz3764 Жыл бұрын
This is an exceptionally well-made documentary. Highlighting the crew after the sinking really drives home the devastating human toll of naval battles that are all too often depicted as ‘spectacular’ or ‘noble’. Thank you!
@scottyfox6376
@scottyfox6376 7 ай бұрын
I once saw a British merchant marine crewman diary writing about the Murmansk run. What struck me was a depressing pages about all the dead whales he saw. Nature took a frightful beating in the oceans as well. But nobody ever talks about this aspect of war.
@10_rds_Fire_For_Effect
@10_rds_Fire_For_Effect 7 ай бұрын
Except for the fact Sydney crew are wrongly portrayed wearing US Navy uniform at 12:03 and again at 15:15. A bit of carelessness in film selection.
@epck
@epck 7 ай бұрын
It's the photos and yhe music he reallly spent time on the material
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 5 ай бұрын
@@scottyfox6376 It's as big ocean. I suppose some might have been mistaken for submarines but, really, why would more than a very few whales be killed by Murmansk convoy combat? Your whining about this is both implausible and misplaced.
@user-qq2vq4fv8b
@user-qq2vq4fv8b 3 ай бұрын
​@@scottyfox6376l have often wondered about that . Depth charging must have caused havoc with the marine life .... but nobody mentioned that.
@Mr.beansholiday
@Mr.beansholiday 2 ай бұрын
I was watching the first drain the oceans episode from the history channel, they told this story, but you did it a million times better, I had to stop watching drain the oceans and come back over here, the quality of your videos are unmatched, your videos are better than anything on a streaming service. Thank you!!!
@widowkeeper4739
@widowkeeper4739 Жыл бұрын
I'm American so this is the first I'm hearing about the HMS Sydney. This was a hell of a story that had me riveted. Detmer was an absolute madman. RIP to the men of the Sydney.
@goodshipkaraboudjan
@goodshipkaraboudjan 11 ай бұрын
HMAS Perth was her sister ship at lost at Sunda with the USS Houston, worth looking into that Battle. It's been called a "Knife fight in a phonebooth". HMAS Hobart, the third sister, had her bow blown off but a Royal Navy half sister that had been sunk was scrapped and the bow welded onto Hobart.
@kingseb2252
@kingseb2252 11 ай бұрын
@@goodshipkaraboudjan i learned about that battle from.the front a few weeks ago insane how they managed to defend for that long
@cunard61
@cunard61 Жыл бұрын
Very well told and illustrated account of this horrible wartime disaster. I've read that the HSK Kormoran was laying mines and then lying-in wait for the big troopship HMT Aquitania that was due to pass through this area on the 21st of November while on her return voyage from Singapore to Sydney. Spies at Singapore had secretly notified the Kormoran about Aquitania's scheduled departure from the port on the 20th, so they could set up their trap for the liner in the waters northwest of Australia. There are two reasons this plan went afoul, the first obviously being Komoran's unexpected encounter with the Sydney on the 19th, and the second being a last-minute directive sent from the Admiralty, to increase the troop-carrying capacity on the Aquitania, and this order changed her timeline, delaying her departure from Singapore by two days. As it turned out, the Aquitania did indeed pass through the area on the 23rd, two days later than previously planned, and her lookout spotted a life raft in the water. The former Cunard liner stopped her engines and rescued about 26 members of Kormoran's surviving crew. Aquitania had a standing order to maintain wireless silence on all of her voyages, so the news of her rescue of the German survivors would be delayed in reaching Sydney, until the ship herself had actually arrived there. Have you heard anything about this part of this story?
@steadmanuhlich6734
@steadmanuhlich6734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for writing your comment with details, that are interesting.
@cunard61
@cunard61 Жыл бұрын
@@steadmanuhlich6734 Thanks for your comment, I am hoping someone can fill in the story with any additional details they may know. The article I read on this event stated that the Komoran's goal was to sink the Aquitania in these waters because this area off north-western Australia was such a barren stretch of coastline with very few inhabitants at that time. Nobody knew the Komoran was even there. They planned on using mines fields to try to slow down the liner, which had a speed of nearly 24 knots. If they couldn't manage to force the Aquitania to hit a mine, and thus slow her down or possibly even stop her, the Komoran would never be able to catch her. It's a very interesting account written by a newspaperman named Jim Davies.
@andrewstackpool4911
@andrewstackpool4911 Жыл бұрын
You are correct
@andrewstackpool4911
@andrewstackpool4911 Жыл бұрын
In fact it was Aquitania's rescue of the Germans that the loss of Sydney first became known
@gvibration1
@gvibration1 Жыл бұрын
Huge implications for Australia. All we had were the 4 infantry divisions overseas!
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
Masterfully done! I've read many accounts of the encounter; yours adds details I had not yet heard. Your graphics and photos were perfect, they illustrated and personalized the crew and ships. Thank you for sharing the meticulous work you put into this.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
@TheBellLife Shorts The "History" Channel wouldn't air it unless aliens were involved in the disappearance of the Sydney's crew. I do agree that it is broadcast worthy, though.
@10_rds_Fire_For_Effect
@10_rds_Fire_For_Effect 7 ай бұрын
@mbryson2899 "Your graphics and photos were perfect"? 12:03 and 15:15 shows Sydney crew wearing US Navy uniform. Mike could have done better with selecting film footage.
@moistmike4150
@moistmike4150 Жыл бұрын
Such a sad, yet beautiful tribute to Sydney's crew. So many young, vital lives lost and futures snuffed out. War is so horrific.
@kwd3109
@kwd3109 Жыл бұрын
Best telling of this tragic story I've ever heard. The ending was so moving and compellingly done that the sadness of losing those young sailors still resonates decades later.
@mattaustin2128
@mattaustin2128 Жыл бұрын
A respectful and immersive presentation of a profoundly sad story. Thank you Mike.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
Heck, even Detmers was sad about it. Yeah, he was happy to have sunk Sydney, but he did everything he could to assist search and rescue efforts. Admittedly, that was mostly just telling them what condition the ship was and giving his best guess as to location, but he did so honestly and without hesitation.
@tomlindsay4629
@tomlindsay4629 Жыл бұрын
I've never read an in-depth account of this action, which has always left me wondering at how an auxiliary cruiser so resoundingly defeated a full-fledged warship. Now I know, thank you! Excellent!
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 Жыл бұрын
Negligence on the part of the captain of the Sydney, the inexperience and unreadiness of the crew, as well as the Kormoran scoring some very lucky hits.
@Strahan740i
@Strahan740i Жыл бұрын
@@BHuang92 At that range, it wasn't luck.
@jcjko5504
@jcjko5504 Жыл бұрын
@@BHuang92 I would say the ignorance and incompetent of the Captain.
@atheistaetherist2747
@atheistaetherist2747 Жыл бұрын
A workmate Heinz Homann was on the Kormoran -- he didnt ever say very much about the incident -- he told a few stories, not much, which i forget anyhow. He escaped during the war, & worked making charcoal in the bush -- protected by the locals -- & stayed when the war finished. I came to Australia on the Skaugum in Nov 1949 -- a sister ship of the Kormoran i believe.
@Youbetternowatchthis
@Youbetternowatchthis 10 ай бұрын
As sad and tragic as these kinds of stories are, I really like to hear about them. All those brave sailors fighting for what they thought was right and just are at least still remembered that way. Good work by this channel.
@MiniMC546
@MiniMC546 Жыл бұрын
From 2D animation to 3D. Your videos just keep getting better and better. Truly a work of art.
@mnpd3
@mnpd3 Жыл бұрын
of the ships that it sank no 1 sent a message that they were being sunk by a wolf in sheeps clothin. so no 1 was lookin out for her. ok.
@jasonwinthrop6235
@jasonwinthrop6235 Жыл бұрын
@@mnpd3 Incorrect there were numerous briefings that German commerce raiders were in the area. Capt Burnett should have displayed far more wariness in this case. The inquiry into the sinking of the Sydney talks to it.
@Lehr-km5be
@Lehr-km5be Жыл бұрын
@@mnpd3 If you watched the video you would know that what you said is a complete opposite of what actually happened :)
@infantryattacks
@infantryattacks Жыл бұрын
Wonderful tribute. Thank you very much. Imperial Germany also used auxiliary cruisers in WWI. Another Kormoran rests on the bottom of Apra Harbor in Guam. She too was an auxiliary cruiser and scored some successes in combat until she was cornered by IJN and Australian warships and sought refuge in neutral Guam. In 1917 the crew of this Kormoran scuttled their ship when the USA declared war on Germany. The ship is often visited by scuba divers. Interestingly enough, the Japanese freighter Tokkai Maru was sunk in Apra Harbor by a submarine-launched torpedo that a USN sub fired over the barrier reef at high tide. At a depth of about 60 feet it is possible for a diver to extend their arms and touch two different ships sunk in two different world wars.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
that sounds like an amazing place to go diving O-o'
@darkrampage3216
@darkrampage3216 Жыл бұрын
@@marhawkman303 my grandpa was in the Navy and served in Vietnam, he always said the time he was stationed in guam was the most beautiful place he’d ever seen. We always wanted to take a trip out there with him but sadly he’s passed now.
@Xpwnxage
@Xpwnxage 11 ай бұрын
That sums up the first half of the 20th century pretty well
@richardgodber8369
@richardgodber8369 Жыл бұрын
The Navy knew where the wrecks were for 70 years .. because of the terrible loss of life and the incredible stupidity of the Captain who had been warned of disguised raiders .. this was too sensitive to release during the war and for the decades after ... the finding of the wrecks is a remarkable story in itself . I am in Geraldton today and will visit the memorial . From the Batavia to the Sydney , the Broome Pearl luggers and the Japanese bombing of several coastal towns , WAs history is incredible RIP the 843
@Baskerville22
@Baskerville22 10 ай бұрын
Your evidence that the Navy knew where the Sydney was "for 70 years" ? And how did they know ? And how would concealing the location prevent the public from knowing that all aboard were lost ? The loss of the Sydney was reported in scores, and possibly hundreds of Australian newspapers by the first week in December 1941. Every next of kin of the crew would have received a telegram from the Navy advising of the tragedy. How does that fit with your absurd claim of a 'cover-up'?
@richardgodber8369
@richardgodber8369 10 ай бұрын
@@Baskerville22 the captain of the Kormoran told the navy when he was captured ., for a start ., the real reason behind the sinking was NEVER announced only that the ship was sunk ., it would have been a huge embarrassment at the time but the many members of the Kormoran told them what happened ., it is not an “absurd theory “
@Baskerville22
@Baskerville22 10 ай бұрын
@@richardgodber8369 Australia was at war. Thousands of Australians were being killed in N. Africa & the Middle-East, so why would any Government be "embarrassed" about 600 sailors being killed ? Your conspiracy theory about a "cover-up" IS absurd.
@andrewrobertson3894
@andrewrobertson3894 9 ай бұрын
The captain of the Kormoran obviously had balls of steel and a razor sharp mind to match them because he completely bamboozled the Australians. Very impressive.
@Phaaschh
@Phaaschh Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike, for this superb rendering of Sydney's story. I have read and re-read accounts of the battle, and finally there is a visual realisation. There is something inescapably haunting about this story, borne out by those final photographs. What happened to those who got off the ship, and there must have been a good few?- perhaps sharks got them, or they drifted, alone, away from the sea lanes, to become skeletons, like that harrowing chapter from The Cruel Sea. I'm a Brit, but I have a sense that the fate of HMAS Sydney is burned into the Australian psyche, like HMS Hood is here. Thank you. If you ever feel like turning your hand to more accounts of the sea war in the far east, they will be very welcome.
@mystikmind2005
@mystikmind2005 Жыл бұрын
"What happened to those who got off the ship, and there must have been a good few?" Given that the bow suddenly broke away, it is likely they were taken by surprise by that, at the same time the ship would have sunk very fast. They would not have had time to launch any life raft under those circumstances... but sure, there must have been men in the water, but how long can men in the water last?
@Phaaschh
@Phaaschh Жыл бұрын
@@mystikmind2005 It is possible, even likely, that the bow section failed suddenly, but only conjecture. The sea was calm that night. With its watertight compartments undoubtedly closed, and whatever damage control still available being put to use, the Sydney should not have foundered so catastrophically that the crew topside did not even have the chance to clear away a couple of Carley floats, which by their nature were designed for quick release. The crew should all have been wearing life preservers too, given their precarious situation. Even if, in the confusion of sinking , the order to abandon ship never came, something should have remained floating, even if it were just wreckage, or bleached skeletons in life jackets to be discovered weeks, months later. Just seems incredible. Edit: but then of course a few weeks later, the Japanese had turned this stretch of ocean into hostile waters, which probably accounts for the fact that no floating remains were ever recovered. I should have thought of that before.
@mystikmind2005
@mystikmind2005 Жыл бұрын
@@Phaaschh "The sea was calm that night" No, Have you ever been to the beach in calm weather and saw no waves? There is always a rolling swell. And a gentle rolling swell can exert significant stresses on a hull when the ship is weighted down with water.
@danwincen1
@danwincen1 Жыл бұрын
@@Phaaschh Three months after HMAS Sydney, a Carley float with a dead sailor on board was recovered near Christmas Island. Locals speculated that the sailor and float came from Sydney, but with no proof it was only speculation. More recently, DNA retrieved from the sailor was compared to family members of the ship's crew, and it was announced late last year that the sailorhad been identified and named as part of HMAS Sydney's crew.
@Phaaschh
@Phaaschh Жыл бұрын
@@danwincen1 wow , I didn't know that. So at last, one member of Sydney's crew could finally be laid to rest. I hope it was with all due ceremony. RIP.
@theroadbackhome2022
@theroadbackhome2022 Жыл бұрын
From what I understand many of Sydney's veteran sailors were transferred when she returned to Australia and replaced by green sailors. I expect that crew inexperience played a major role in what happened.
@keiranallcott1515
@keiranallcott1515 Жыл бұрын
Your correct in regards to the crew being assigned to other ships, the picture of all of Sydney’s crew was taken while she was in the Mediterranean, captain collins is in the centre front of the picture. Most crew were transferred to the N class destroyers such as Napier and nizam before she left the Mediterranean.
@legioner9
@legioner9 Жыл бұрын
@The Road Back Home: How was the crew inexperienced since Sidney was the first to open fire? The germans were better prepaired, true, but that applies to the german army in general. Also, Sidney scored hits on the Kormoran even after she herself was already badly damaged. An inexperienced crew couldn't do what the Sidney crew achieved. The Kormoran simply was the better fighting prepared ship.
@keiranallcott1515
@keiranallcott1515 Жыл бұрын
@@legioner9 you do have a point , what you said pretty sums up just how debated and heated the debate is with what happened, and the truth is that we will never know why Sydney got so close ,and what captain Burnett was thinking. In saying that. 1. There were numerous cases of British cruisers got too close to suspected enemy raiders. 2. When Hmas Canberra sank a captured German supply ship , by using its main guns from a long distance , the captain was heavily criticised for using too much ammo, among the naval Officers involved in the inquiry was captain Burnett himself. More food for thought , p.s I edited my answer to correct what I said
@legioner9
@legioner9 Жыл бұрын
@@keiranallcott1515 Well, I've read only your edited comment anyway. It is debatable as who fired first, although it is clear that the crew from Sidney was in fact experienced. That was my point. An inexperienced crew couldn't achieve the battle performance the crew from Sidney achieved, even more so, since Sidney took far more heavy damage than Kormoran. That is my point, and it's common-sense at this point. I don't know what the guy posting the main comment was thinking ...
@davidknowles2491
@davidknowles2491 Жыл бұрын
@@legioner9 There had to be some form of inexperience - a fully trained crew would not have gotten that close that the ships guns couldn't depress far enough. 3 to 4 thousand yards is plenty. Any closer and you're asking for trouble.
@corinnalopez1774
@corinnalopez1774 Жыл бұрын
For the love of God, someone please hire this man to direct/oversee/narrate programs like this. He would be a serious asset to any production company …gathering interest and teaching the descendant generations about such incredible stories. Just wow!
@margm4
@margm4 Жыл бұрын
This is just so sad. My mum often spoke about this. She was a young wraaf in those days and had a very close friendship/romance with one of the sailors. Incidentally, my sister Lynn vigar was one of the technical people who helped locate the ship some years back in West Australia. Thanks for the reminder of this tragic event. 🇦🇺
@talkintomenow
@talkintomenow Жыл бұрын
Unbelievably well made man. I didn't even know this happened and was utterly shocked to hear that Sydney was essentially too close and too late to fight.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the tale!
@andydporter5136
@andydporter5136 Жыл бұрын
You're not Australian, I take it?
@silvertbird1
@silvertbird1 Жыл бұрын
I also had never heard the story of the Sydney, as an American. It is an account that everyone should know, as a reminder of the sacrifice during World War II.
@timcase2494
@timcase2494 Жыл бұрын
Great documentary. Ever since i heard that they found the wrecks in 2008 I always wanted to know more. The pictures of the Kormoran always made it look like such a foreboding ship. I've watched a few of your vids, but i subscribed after watching this one. Keep it up.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Tim, welcome aboard!
@roostersbays95
@roostersbays95 Жыл бұрын
most certainly the Kormoran was a dangerous vessel
@marijosepatino5729
@marijosepatino5729 Жыл бұрын
Ever since this documentary came out, The HMAS SYDNEY became my favorite warship and encouraged me to learn more about warships like the Texas, Montana, Thunderer,and the hood, just to name a few. So thank you for making this documentary about her.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
That's great! It is all fascinating history :)
@marijosepatino5729
@marijosepatino5729 Жыл бұрын
@@OceanlinerDesigns History can be amazing to learn about
@shadowofkhaos
@shadowofkhaos 10 ай бұрын
Ever since i first heard of the Kormoran and the Sydney ive been fascinated. The fact it had so many hidden weapons and tricks and almost made it away safely is incredible. It ripped a battleship to shreds in almost an instant. I really wonder how world war 2 wouldve went had the germans had better leadership
@tombaillie5219
@tombaillie5219 8 ай бұрын
A light cruiser, not a battleship. Big difference.
@michaelpielorz9283
@michaelpielorz9283 7 ай бұрын
you would have written your comment in german.
@andrewyork3869
@andrewyork3869 6 ай бұрын
It's extremely complicated Germany and Japan once the US entered where doomed, more so once the North African campaign was lost. (Equipment was lost that was never really replaced entirely. As the heat turned up in Europe, german production went to shit.)
@nedkelly9688
@nedkelly9688 6 ай бұрын
Almost got away safely what a load of BS it sunk not long after from badly damaged. it's survivors washed up on Australia soil.
@stephenkalatucka6213
@stephenkalatucka6213 6 ай бұрын
If they had better leadership, there wouldn't have been a war.
@SwitchMonkey
@SwitchMonkey Жыл бұрын
Murphy’s law was in full effect on that day for the HMAS Sydney. Everything that could go wrong, went wrong. What a tragedy. I suspect even the crew of the German raider were just as shocked.
@drats1279
@drats1279 Жыл бұрын
Murphy was not involved only a pompous career-minded Australian Captain that disobeyed standing orders and killed his crew, all of them.
@Shivian124
@Shivian124 Жыл бұрын
@@drats1279 Exactly.
@philipbowry9341
@philipbowry9341 Жыл бұрын
My wife’s grandfather was a petty officer on the Sydney he and an other crew member were left behind when the ship sailed and was lost. My wife’s grandfather had a accident on board which put him in hospital and the other could not make it back in time. The only two survivors.
@Jack-sd1ug
@Jack-sd1ug Жыл бұрын
Jesus
@seanworkman431
@seanworkman431 7 ай бұрын
Born in Sydney and familiar with many landmarks in the photos, that is the best documentary i have seen regarding the loss of the Sydney. We had another mighty naval vessel almost sunk by it's own destroyer but that is another story.
@BryanLikesCandy
@BryanLikesCandy Жыл бұрын
A fantastic documentary and insight into a piece of Australian and maritime history. Loved the deep dive into the service history of each vessel, as well as the cultural and military relevance leading up to the fateful day. The work you put into this is amazing, and I am truly grateful to your time and skills.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@greybirdo
@greybirdo Жыл бұрын
An excellent piece of work - BZ! You might have added the story of the one man known to have got off the Sydney alive, Leading Seaman Signaller Thomas Welsby Clark, whose decomposing body was washed ashore in a Carley float on Christmas Island some time later. His name was unknown until a couple of months ago, when he was finally identified using DNA, and was reburied with full naval honours at Geraldton cemetery. With his reburial, the Sydney’s last mystery was solved.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard! I wanted to discuss Thomas' story but was simply short on time and I plan on exploring it in future episodes. :)
@stephenobrien5909
@stephenobrien5909 Жыл бұрын
It seems amazing that there were no survivours from Sydney, and there was I seem o remember, a rumour that the Germans massacred all the remaining crew.
@lokmanmerican6889
@lokmanmerican6889 Жыл бұрын
RAN re-dedication ceremony kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXfdoGWDqb17frM
@greybirdo
@greybirdo Жыл бұрын
@@stephenobrien5909 , based on the relative locations of the two wrecks, those rumours could not have been true. Also, have a look a the damage to the ship and the devastation that would have been caused to the boats after the hit on the Seagull, which spewed burning high octane aviation fuel all over them. It is entirely believable that none of the boats got away (in fact the remains of several are still in their davits), and that any Carley floats were lost at sea, as was the float picked up by the Centaur. Basically, every conspiracy theory that was floated between 1942 and 2008 was debunked by the finding and photographing of the two wrecks.
@michaelcogrove967
@michaelcogrove967 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenobrien5909 one theory is the bow snapping off didn't give the survivors enough time to get in the anything left of the boats and rafts.
@vassilizaitzev1
@vassilizaitzev1 Жыл бұрын
Very well done production. You did justice to the story of the Sydney and her crew.
@straswa
@straswa 10 ай бұрын
Great vid Ocealiner Designs. RIP to the fallen on both sides and condolences to their families.
@ryanthoene7149
@ryanthoene7149 10 ай бұрын
Incredible as always Mike. Thank you!
@peterkropotkin6224
@peterkropotkin6224 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes in warfare, the underdog wins; sometimes, David beats Goliath. There is more to combat that sheer strength and outcomes are determined by a variety of factors. The engagement of the Kororman and Sydney exemplifies this. While the Sydney as a ship may have been faster and better armed and armored than the Kormoran, leadership, tactics and luck prevailed for the latter (even though the Kormoran needed to be abandoned). It appears that Burnett and crew, despite having weapons prepped, were caught completely off guard and the Kormoran's crew were prepared for engagement and aimed on hitting the cruiser's weak spots. Burnett, being aware and patrolling for auxiliary cruisers, was under orders not to approach unidentified ships; he should hae known better but for unknown reasons broke protocol. I do not think Burnett would have gotten as close as he did he thought the ship could have been an actual raider. Detmers played on deception and was able to trick Burnett into getting close to the point he had forfeited the ship's advantages in heavy armor and long-range weaponry. It also appears that the Sydney's guns also were not properly sighted, and the first salvos that could have severely damaged the Kormoran (perhaps putting it out of commission) missed. Thus, Koroman was able to deliver death blows to the ships command and fire control capabilities before Sydney could respond. Ultimately, while the Kororman suffered serious and ultimately fatal damage, they were still able to cripple the Sydney to the extent they were able to put out most of its weapons out of commission, thus allowing the Kororman to endure and eventually escape. In this sense, the Koroman "had the faster draw" The Sydney should have prevailed, with this resulting in a successful interception based on superior firepower and range. Unfortunately Burnett made serious mistakes by approaching an unknown and potentially very dangerous ship unprepared. Command matters, and in this case Burnett screwed up and it resulted in the loss of his life, crew, and ship.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 Жыл бұрын
If there were any survivors of the Sydney, the captain would've been court martialed for negligence........
@enpakeksi765
@enpakeksi765 Жыл бұрын
@@BHuang92 Speaking of which, it's truly tragic that none out of the 645 survived. It makes me wonder if the entire crew had perished from their wounds and in the raging fires long before the ship itself went under.
@ethanspaziani1070
@ethanspaziani1070 Жыл бұрын
​@@enpakeksi765 I doubt that I'd be surprised if half the crew was killed but surely even if 40% of the crew was knocked out you'd think that but still be enough men in order to try and save the ship they most likely fought on into the night trying to save the vessel the torpedo hit combined with the fires and the destruction of the number one and number two turret probably made that whole area uninhabitable they probably couldn't even get to the damage section of the ship in order to stop the flooding they most likely went down trying to save it instead of themselves
@alexlo7708
@alexlo7708 Жыл бұрын
The Aussie who blinked first.
@woodliceworm4565
@woodliceworm4565 Жыл бұрын
The Kororman blew up later about 70 crew were killed poss more - they didn't win exactly.
@architude
@architude Жыл бұрын
I've watched a number of your uploads, but this, was your best. A lot of detail, explanation and story precision telling of a proud Australian ship missing for many, many decades.
@therampanthamster
@therampanthamster Жыл бұрын
hi, thanks for taking the time to make this video. WW2 is an endlessly fascinating subject matter and having people out there willing to bring less known incidents like this to light makes me extremely grateful! I loved the vid. Happy new year :)
@FreyaofCerberus
@FreyaofCerberus Ай бұрын
A very moving touch to include the funeral music from Master and Commander over the montage of crew pictures and the sinking ship. Brought a tear to this Aussie's eye.
@brycebamess5117
@brycebamess5117 Жыл бұрын
Tom, you certainly chose the right piece of music for this - Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis. Simply haunting, magical, sombre, melancholy, and heavenly all at once. This made me remember about a gentleman I met a long time ago called Jim Lavender- a friend of my grandad's. He's long passed away now, but he was deployed on the Sydney for most of its wartime service including the Mediterranean. After coming back to Melbourne he was transferred to another new vessel, much to his annoyance. The next day, or thereabouts, the Sydney sailed for Fremantle and we all know what happened then... All his mates were on it. I wished I appreciated the significance of meeting him at the time, but I was just a small boy. A truly warm and generous man. The debt we own those men can never be repaid.
@sirboomsalot4902
@sirboomsalot4902 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was wondering what song that was
@constitution_8939
@constitution_8939 Жыл бұрын
My criticism is for Churchill who chose to turn this into a Disasterous World War when it wasn't necessary in light of Hitler appealing to him to retract Britains declaration of War against Germany instead of letting it be after Dunkirk. The British were given a break there but obviously Churchill was put up to it by the Rothschild-Warburg Criminal Bankers with an Agenda that Germany only wanted Stop from coming to fruition which is their World Government which is only just around the corner now to the World's detriment as they've already all but totally destroyed Western Civilization and Churchill's insistence on War cost the British Everything and has brought the Western Governments down with her as well. Churchill and FDR betrayed not just their 2 countries but All of Western Civilization itself and I'm certain both are Burning in Hell Forever for this Zionist-Masonic Victory because Nobody else Won WW 2 but the Communist's!!
@vicc7409
@vicc7409 Жыл бұрын
Myself as well. Thank you for identifying it!
@steadmanuhlich6734
@steadmanuhlich6734 Жыл бұрын
I have seen other documentary videos about the Sydney battle. This is the best I have seen. Well done Oceanliner Designs! This is nicely narrated, illustrated, and respectful. (subscribed because of this video). Keep up the good work.
@DynastyInferno
@DynastyInferno 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, I had no idea about this battle. Hidden gem. Keep it up, great quality videos from you.
@geoffanderson2631
@geoffanderson2631 Жыл бұрын
This is the best recounting of this story I have seen. So refreshing. Excellent documentary film making.
@OtakuLoki
@OtakuLoki Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, with great attention to detail between what is known, what can be reasonably speculated upon by survivor's accounts, and what will always be a mystery. Thank you
@fastfiddler1625
@fastfiddler1625 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Your content has seriously accelerated since I started watching just a few months ago. This was great work. Keep them coming!
@DeaconBlu
@DeaconBlu 10 ай бұрын
Incredible story. One that I have heard 50 times or more…. This one…Yours…is By Far the finest telling of this whole event. Thank you, ever so much for making this. Well done. Well done indeed. 😔
@LPMM29
@LPMM29 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Your work is amazing! I love the history, the details, and your professionalism. Great job!
@pedenharley6266
@pedenharley6266 Жыл бұрын
Mike, fantastic video. Thank you for creating this memorial to the crew of Sydney.
@imakeboatsifudidntknow
@imakeboatsifudidntknow Жыл бұрын
The animations are so good, the animations are so detailed. These videos are getting so much better everytime!
@bjoran83
@bjoran83 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic documentary. Tragic subject but important to tell stories like this. So many sailors perished during the war.
@nopoint2427
@nopoint2427 Жыл бұрын
That battle sequence is brilliant and this is an excellent video on a forgotten piece of history, I've never heard of this despite living in Australia all my life.
@DaMonkeyWithAGun
@DaMonkeyWithAGun Жыл бұрын
Incredible job with this video. From the narration to the animation everything was great. Keep up the great work!
@harvey1965
@harvey1965 Жыл бұрын
Man! That was informative, classy and really reflects the 'hole' we Australians feel in the country's pysche from the loss of our Aussie lads 80 years ago! Great work mate!
@CatFoodDraino
@CatFoodDraino 11 ай бұрын
Wow…. What an epic story. I really enjoyed listening to this. Thank you for sharing
@steelfabric
@steelfabric Жыл бұрын
Great story telling, and really emotional imagery at the end. Well done.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын
Mike, what a tragic story beautifully and magnificently told. I'm not ashamed to admit I was almost in tears at the end. What a great illustration of the saying "No-one really wins a war, some just lose more than others." I hate to "Monday-morning quarterback," but I'd suspect Syndey's captain got caught with his pants down because there he was, a new captain on his first command who was probably more concerned with doing the wrong thing, in this case shooting up a friendly, than he was in doing the right thing which would have been being instantly ready to blow a potential hostile out of the water.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 Жыл бұрын
He could've send a recon plane to search the Kormoran from the distance and should raise the alarm for the crew to be alert and man their battlestations but the captain neglected every advantage the Sydney has and allow the Kormoran to prepare for their single tactical advantage to score some very lucky hits.
@legioner9
@legioner9 Жыл бұрын
@@BHuang92 Kormoran scored multiple hits on the Sidney, basically almost every shot fired, it also deployed torpedoes which hit Sidney. The Kormoran simply had better fighting ability. So no, you are not right about the "lucky hits". It amazes me that to this day there are people who still are butthurt that the germans defeated the brittish in direct battle. Remember that Germany lost the war because it had to fight all other worlds super powers, but 1 vs 1 in almost all battles it was the winner, and many times it had to just retreat because of lack of equipment and soldiers.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын
@@BHuang92 It might have interesting to have heard the interplay on the bridge of HMAS Sydney between the ineperienced captain and the (presumeably) more experienced XO and gunnery officer when they made the approach to Kormoran.
@mattbowden4996
@mattbowden4996 Жыл бұрын
@@BHuang92 There was very little luck involved in Kormoran's shooting. The whole point of Detmers ruse was to lure the Sydney in close enough that his gunners could hit their targets quickly and decisively, before the Sydney could respond. At a range of only a few hundred metres, the Kormoran's heavy guns taking out the forward turrets and the 37mm gun raking the bridge were near certainties - not lucky hits. Where Kormoran was lucky was Sydney's inexperienced captain falling for their ruse in the first place.
@markbaker342
@markbaker342 Жыл бұрын
@@legioner9 Mate, the ship is called the HMAS SYDNEY, so show them the respect by getting the name right from the start, SYDNEY… SYDNEY….. SYDNEY…… sure you’ll remember that now? And it was manned by Australian crew, another fact you keep ballsing up in your Eddie the Expert commentary. Burnett got it all wrong.. the plane should have done the flyovers and as soon as they did not meet the challenges correctly he should have taken defensive action from distance. All crew should have been at battle stations as a given. The SYDNEY should have been at distance where her fully depressed guns would still be able to hit the enemy. Another bad mistake by Burnett. The man was too inexperienced in hindsight and was one of the major causes of the loss of 645 men. “”Germany lost the war because it had too fight all the other superpowers !! 1v1 it was always the winner??? “” Hmmm!!! Let’s see now?? Occupies Western Europe, unprovoked attack on Poland, not a modern army, France - hahaha all talk and hot air - and with a traitorous Vichy element - dogs!! And brave Netherlands, Norway, Denmark.. but not that small island across the water from France.. then you decide to back door the Russians - another great move by Germany- arrogance and stupidity to fight on 2 opposing fronts. I’m trying to think what happened when all the great empires of the world tried to do that?? Not often because it’s suicide. So dial down the Germany is so great routine pal and stick to the right facts. Battle of Britain (RAF) - lost, Battle of Alamein (8th Army)- lost, Kursk, Stalingrad - lost - actually the whole Eastern Front was v 1 Nation. Bismarck - lost to the RN, Scharnhorst - lost to the RN, Tirpitz, sunk by 617 Sqn. They had brilliant individual military commanders but the country was led by an imbecile who was also a thug & nut job
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video. I personally think this should be on television. It's that good. The animation. The storytelling. All of it. I'm speechless. What a tragic tale. What an excellent telling. Superb job, Mike.
@carlosdenevier9538
@carlosdenevier9538 Жыл бұрын
well, you are very easy to impress. no wonder we are going to get extinct ...
@patrickcoleman3
@patrickcoleman3 Жыл бұрын
From what I can see all the blame is on the Captain of the Sydney for not having the crew on high alert also for the multiple mistakes he made, terrible loss.
@Eric-qo8vv
@Eric-qo8vv 3 ай бұрын
Best one so far Mike. Awesome job
@Conor94N
@Conor94N Жыл бұрын
Whist being utterly tragic; these videos are fascinating! With your familiar and illustrative story telling methodology, it’s a a thoroughly enjoyable viewing experience. Personally I’d love to see more war time videos like this.
@northerncaptain855
@northerncaptain855 7 ай бұрын
Early in my sailing career, my Chief Engineer as a young man sailing on the American Texaco Tanker Connecticut was sunk and taken prisoner by the German Raider Michel in the South Atlantic. The Raider changed its operational area to the Pacific where he and the other 19 survivors were turned over to the Japanese. He and spent the rest of the war laboring as a POW. Two of the 19 original survivors died of malnutrition.
@SteelerzReignSupremeII
@SteelerzReignSupremeII 3 ай бұрын
Sure he was. Everyone has a false story.
@kmydet
@kmydet Жыл бұрын
the 3d animations in this one were awesome. it's really immersive to watch the battle play out right in front of me as you narrate it. also, the wrecks of both ships are in incredible condition, especially for their depth
@constitution_8939
@constitution_8939 Жыл бұрын
You must have done some further research because I commented about the depths Not being mentioned here having mentioned them being discovered and a couple of photos shown but no other info in that regard and was scrolling the comments to see if anyone had such details. I'll see about finding that information myself. I also find it odd there was not even one survivor of the Sydney being it took hours or so to sink and not instantly.
@kmydet
@kmydet Жыл бұрын
@@constitution_8939 they're supposedly 2500 meters deep
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
@@constitution_8939 My guess? The Crew of Sydney had no reason to abandon ship until the bow detached, and at that point they have only a few minutes. I suspect most of those who hadn't died in the firefight died trying to save their ship. If they'd known a sudden catastrophic failure was coming they'd have probably abandoned ship much like Detmers ordered.
@constitution_8939
@constitution_8939 Жыл бұрын
@@marhawkman303 The fires would have assured a Much earlier departure, No chances would have been taken.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Жыл бұрын
@@constitution_8939 how can you be sure of that though? Yes, the fires were a severe problem, but... if you can save the ship that's far better than jumping overboard. miles from land.
@Brock_Landers
@Brock_Landers Жыл бұрын
Wow, you really hit it out of the park on this one bud. I was deeply impressed by this video. The animations were outstanding. Such a sad sad story of a heroic ship.
@megadoomerr
@megadoomerr Жыл бұрын
The graphic illustration and narration are of the highest calibre. Great documentary. More like this please.
@gravscool
@gravscool Жыл бұрын
Really an amazing story and just told beautifully. Well done.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Gravscool!
@auntpookie3934
@auntpookie3934 10 ай бұрын
This is a gross act of incompetence on the part of the Captain. Like a lot of things back home it was wallpapered by a Government commission. Going up close to an unidentified ship is the act of a fool not the captain of a cruiser. He handed a death sentence to every member of his crew.
@davidcoudriet8439
@davidcoudriet8439 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this story! Well done!
@goldenchild4835
@goldenchild4835 3 ай бұрын
My grandfather was part of the crew on the troop transport and supply ship SS Zealandia. Zealandia was thought to be the last ship to see HMAS Sydney in tact. In February '42 the Zealandia was sunk in Darwin Harbour during the first Japanese air attack.
@floyd8740
@floyd8740 Жыл бұрын
The reality that many refused to face, for over half a century, is that Australia simply did not have a functioning navy during WW2. The "Pride of the Fleet" was a poorly armed, unarmoured, LIGHT Cruiser, that was already obsolete when she was built. The Leanders were designed in the 1920's, and were designed for long-range patrols, not to act as "warships". With the changing face of Naval warfare, they were already obsolete when built, which is why the Royal Navy disposed of them. In Contrast, Commerce Raiders were notoriously heavily armed. They were not manoeuvrable, nor could they engage in a running sea-battle. But carried a lot of guns (in broadside configuration) and were extremely effective at close range. It is to Sydney's enduring credit that even though surprised and overwhelmed, her crew inflicted substantial damage on the Kormoran. The other issue that nobody wants to confront, is the possibility of incompetence by Burnett. There is no doubt that the Kormoran used subterfuge. She was in disguise and that is how Commerce Raiders operated. BUt the simple fact remains that Sydney should not have been so close, no matter what subterfuge was used. Unfortunately this probably stems from the residual British influence at the time, whereby Officers expected all other Captains to abide by traditional "Rules of Engagement."
@freshair9315
@freshair9315 Жыл бұрын
Well written and expressed
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Жыл бұрын
Mike your narration is top-notch, it's a big part of the story. The freedoms we have today had a high price, let's not lose sight of that or they may vanish before our eyes. Thanks for your time and hard work.....
@markchalled3976
@markchalled3976 Жыл бұрын
The graphics were spectacular. Great video. Thank you.
@justinsullivan5063
@justinsullivan5063 Жыл бұрын
One of your BEST videos and a sorely underrepresented topic. Thank you.
@tonylam9548
@tonylam9548 Жыл бұрын
It is hard to believe no one got out alive from the Sydney. Even ships like the Hood, Yamato and Bismark had a few survivors. The ship burned half the night afloat. They had time to get into the life jacket if nothing else.
@tobiaslundqvist.71
@tobiaslundqvist.71 Жыл бұрын
it was far out on the sea, most liferafts was likely destroyed during the battle, and the search for Sydney started only several days after, as no distress call was sent. they hardly even knew were to search....
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 7 ай бұрын
Those where big ships with large crews. More chances that some won the lottery of survival.
@imjashingyou3461
@imjashingyou3461 7 ай бұрын
A huge number of crew was reportedly on deck during the closing and killed by the light AA fire. Its probably a contibuting factor why she sank. Its a good chance 50% of the died before the battle was over.
@imjashingyou3461
@imjashingyou3461 7 ай бұрын
Also something your forgetting. Every single ship listed had other ships present to perform rescue efforts. All of those survivors where from people pulled from the water. Sydney may have had sailors get into the water to only drown/die of exposure. Because the radio room was likely destroyed no distress signal was sent and there was no rescue attempt.
@piotrzbies8683
@piotrzbies8683 4 ай бұрын
Australians didn't know about the sinking of Sidney until they captured first German lifeboats. That was 4 days after the battle.
@newobanproductions999
@newobanproductions999 Жыл бұрын
Being from her namesake city, HMAS Sydney (D48) had a lot to live up to. In WWI, her Chatham-class ancestor famously destroyed the German light cruiser SMS Emdem (the Dresden-class one), marking Australia's first ever wartime victory in battle. During peacetime, Sydney (D48) passed by Sydney I's main mast and her defeating RN Bartolomeo Colleoni showed she was can hold that honour of her WWI ancestor. While her loss was a huge blow in moral for Australia, it was clear HMAS Sydney, no matter what state she was in, will never let her enemy return home.
@Lavidalex
@Lavidalex Жыл бұрын
The Master and Commander music at the end is just perfect, this is a really interesting story, thanks for sharing it !!
@curtisdaniel9294
@curtisdaniel9294 Жыл бұрын
Another Great Story well told, Mike! Thanks for your time and effort.
@leopardone2386
@leopardone2386 Жыл бұрын
What you did here good sir is a brilliant blend of your work, and historical events that took me through a journey of a story I knew since my youth yet it felt like my first time hearing it. You have a real talent at this, as for the crew of Sydney and those lost on her assailant as well. May they be remembered and the lessons despite current events be truly heeded from that awful war. P.S. :If you do a design for the German frieghter MS Müchen I'll buy one and frame it. Great work as always.👍
@Jamesszy94
@Jamesszy94 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Fascinating to learn about HMAS Sydney, especially being so close to home.
@suec6521
@suec6521 4 ай бұрын
My Uncle Sam enlisted in the Australian Navy and was assigned to HMAS Sydney. He was about 18 (born 1921). However he caught Rheumatic Fever and was removed from the ship to hospital. He was too ill to rejoin the ship when it sailed off to the Indian Ocean. He was also invalided out of the navy so he survived the war and lived until 2005. He died of a series of strokes which were the result of the damage to his heart caused by Rheumatic Fever.
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 Жыл бұрын
Very clutch move by the Kriegsmarine, definitely one of their more impressive exploits.
@harryeisermann2784
@harryeisermann2784 Жыл бұрын
The u boat war , was second to none victory and loses. but a hell of a war
@harryeisermann2784
@harryeisermann2784 Жыл бұрын
excellent comander Komoran, hmmm
@itsnotalwaysblackandwhite8624
@itsnotalwaysblackandwhite8624 Жыл бұрын
In depth research rewarded. I well remember attending The Shrine in Melbourne. There on the grass for all to see we’re laid out small white crosses. Each cross representing an officer and sailor lost when HMAS Sydney sank. Lest we forget 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@freshair9315
@freshair9315 Жыл бұрын
Lest we forget
@paulmillard1130
@paulmillard1130 Жыл бұрын
A very classy telling of this story which has aways held mystery in the ending of two ships at war. A sad loss of such brave men.
@Dan-hn1lx
@Dan-hn1lx 10 ай бұрын
Well told mate I have just discovered this channel and I'm on the binge. Cheers
@rmyerscmi
@rmyerscmi Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and very respectful of all who died. 🕯 for all those lost.
@gillbarry8681
@gillbarry8681 Жыл бұрын
I've known about it after reading memoirs of Australian WWII naval officers but have not seen any documentary so far. Great job detailing both ships and the choice of Master and Commander's OST is dead on the spot.. Kudos, thank you.
@OceanlinerDesigns
@OceanlinerDesigns Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@arunta5
@arunta5 7 ай бұрын
What a shame they replaced an experienced battle tested Captain with someone with no combat experience. I remember reading that a sailor who survived because his wife was expecting, saying the crew thought Burnett would get them all killed because of his naive practices. We did not have much luck with our cruisers in WW2.
@lindsayspears5760
@lindsayspears5760 10 ай бұрын
Love your channel and analysis mate , Thanks heaps
@jonathanbower863
@jonathanbower863 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Mike Brady for some really top quality content on KZbin. I have watched many of your videos with great interest! Please do draw QE2!
@bjw4859
@bjw4859 Жыл бұрын
Very well made, I remember giving the illustrated book to my father a few years back after they had found the wrecks of both ships.
@errolhooker747
@errolhooker747 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, well done.
@LoneStarMillennial
@LoneStarMillennial 11 ай бұрын
So very well done. Thank you so much.
@dinoslavski
@dinoslavski Жыл бұрын
Great video. I think it would be a good watch to see you tackle the twin polish liners, Piłsudski and Batory.
@nikolaibarbarich7887
@nikolaibarbarich7887 11 ай бұрын
This channel is amazing. My grandfather was lucky he didn't die on the Holmglen in 1959 From memory it sunk off the north island of Nz, no one lived from memory. He missed getting to the union office because of my aunty who had only been born in 58, so someone else got the job and unfortunately, it was their last. He was a cook on ships his whole working life and had some great stories ( some I'm sure he played up haha ) but those stories would draw me in as a little boy and sparked an interest in ships.
@SteelerzReignSupremeII
@SteelerzReignSupremeII 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, your grandfather is immortal.
@billbruff9613
@billbruff9613 Жыл бұрын
A xhilling event beutifully animated and well told. As always a big thank you Mike for your skills and research.
@dannyrosales9554
@dannyrosales9554 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Idk why I find these videos so fascinating but I end up binging and forget about everything else
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