The Remarkable Story Behind Command & Conquer's Remastering

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Featuring interviews with Jim Vessella, Petroglyph Games and Lemon Sky, we explore how Command & Conquer Remastered Collection came together, and how the international team remastered FMV, graphics, audio, music, gameplay and more.
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Hosted & Edited by Danny O'Dwyer
Gameplay Capture by Frank Howley
Closed Captions: Megan Carnes
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
01:24 - The Westwood Days
05:02 - Split Up & Reunion
10:20 - Remastering FMV
14:50 - Changing Gameplay
19:30 - Tweaking Audio
21:33 - Remastering Music & SFX
26:09 - Remastering Graphics
29:51 - Community Council
33:28 - The Final Release
36:10 - The Future
37:58 - Credits

Пікірлер: 948
@NoclipDocs
@NoclipDocs 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first documentary we've recorded in quarantine. How did we do? SPAAAAACE! (www.patreon.com/noclip)
@Aragorn7884
@Aragorn7884 3 жыл бұрын
How come no 1440p or 2160p? Not complaining, merely inquiring.
@ChrisLT
@ChrisLT 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. As informative as ever, and the production made the best of the web cam style. I'd love to learn more about their design philosophy for Grey Goo, or a new modern RTS in general.
@SuperHns
@SuperHns 3 жыл бұрын
It's great mate, thanks!
@alexevaldez
@alexevaldez 3 жыл бұрын
The presentation is really really good. You guys took advantage of the webcams really really well.
@NoclipDocs
@NoclipDocs 3 жыл бұрын
Aragorn7884 yeah, great question - with the increased production and export time it kind of seems redundant. We’d just be upscaling a bunch of the video to make it match the gameplay. And our viewing data suggests people don’t watch higher than 1080/60 much. Also the files would be much harder to transfer between our team. As it was our capture person recorded around 10 hours of gameplay for this one.
@slipknotpurity00
@slipknotpurity00 3 жыл бұрын
Both this remaster and the Age of Empires remaster just seem to be oozing passion from the developers and they all include so much extra bonus stuff. It feels so different from the WC3 Reforged development.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer StarCraft I Remastered and OG AoE II over AoE II's Definitive Edition. The inability to switch to old graphics and sounds (the old graphics have a certain bit of charm while the DE narrations are not that exciting to hear) just turned me and other fans off.
@LaDeXi
@LaDeXi 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 I prefer the original music and narrations as well but still play DE because how well it's done.
@TheRealXartaX
@TheRealXartaX 3 жыл бұрын
@Mialisus Kind of hard when it completely replaced the original game. It's wearing the skin of the original game like a skinsuit.
@hazardeur
@hazardeur 3 жыл бұрын
difference is that WC3 is a corporate cashgrab to milk fans and CC is passion from and for true gamers
@setsumikokonoe4814
@setsumikokonoe4814 3 жыл бұрын
@@hazardeur True gamers don't pay for shit with an EA tag on it, as much as I love C&C.
@ShaneFagan
@ShaneFagan 3 жыл бұрын
As a dev I have mad respect for anyone taking code from even 10 years ago and remastering it. I develop server side software and usually it's easier to rewrite everyone from scratch even if the language is still around. I wouldn't even know where to start if I had to use for instance python2.4 and update it to python3.8. C/C++/C# have been mostly backwards compatible but usually if you want a really good remaster you will have to replace libraries, replace the graphical stack, audio stack...etc to match the newer operating systems, I'd rate it harder than developing a regular game at that point because you have to pick and choose what you need to rewrite but still towing the line of what is a valid update and what is something you are just doing for ease of development.
@TheKins
@TheKins 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the original source code was uploaded to GitHub by EA in order to facilitate mod support. If you look at it, the first thing that will strike you is that it's EXTREMELY well-commented. Pretty much everything has a paragraph-long comment block prefixing it explaining what it's supposed to do. While porting legacy code to modern systems is still pretty hard, being able to clearly know exactly what you were thinking decades ago must have made the process much smoother than it usually is, or might have been.
@cfehunter
@cfehunter 3 жыл бұрын
@Shane Fagan To be fair the source code for the game is mostly the same as it was back in 1995 (confirmed by assembly analysis). There's a kind of MVC relationship happening in the remaster, where the remaster sits as a view layer on top of the original code, it only communicates to the old code via a very small interface layer that forwards the UI interactions and retrieves game state for drawing.
@damsen978
@damsen978 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion this was done even better than what was done in AoE II: Definitive Edition, and i never even played C&C, so i trust this remaster for my first time experience and feel like i'm not missing anything from the original.
@shihabaljabri1110
@shihabaljabri1110 3 жыл бұрын
good work!
@Spaced92
@Spaced92 3 жыл бұрын
Refactoring old code is actual torture, the original code is pretty well done though. Odd how so many games were well documented back then before we had much in the way of coding standards.
@DSlyde
@DSlyde 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about the remaster is how much it looks and sounds and feels like how I *remember* it, rather than how it actually was. The rose colored glasses of nostalgia and childhood imagination will smooth out pixelated sprites and fill in detail thats not actually there, and what the sprites look like in the remastere is how I remember the old game looking because of that. It perfectly captured that.
@maydaverave
@maydaverave 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I started playing it and I was like this is exactly the same and then I hit the toggle button and oh yeah the soldiers were just a couple pixels lol
@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823
@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823 Жыл бұрын
Yes! You see now the very first c&c (the DOS one) and it’s pretty crppy, but back in 1995 it blew my mind!
@Skorpychan
@Skorpychan 5 ай бұрын
That's also my problem with it. I thought it was just unusually difficult compared to later RTS games. As it turned out, it isn't; The UI is just REALLY clunky compared to stuff from even a few years later (namely C&C Generals), and I really just suck at RTS games.
@shzmeteor3954
@shzmeteor3954 3 жыл бұрын
It’s actually impressive this remaster happened the way it did. Particularly, the full cooperation with the community during the development is not something I’m used to seeing.
@kazmark_gl8652
@kazmark_gl8652 3 жыл бұрын
It was a shock to everyone in the community when it happened as well. C&C rivals got announced and everyone was in super low spirits and comming to terms with the death of the community then out of knowwhere EA shows up our subreddit of all places and they tell us personally that they want to do us good and Remaster the first two games. not only that but our community leaders will have a say in the games development. I think the most telling part is that the Remaster was announced on the subreddit rather than on the stage of E3 or in a press release.
@Exile1a
@Exile1a 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the fact that Rivals was a blessing in disguise kind of hurts. But glad we got the Remasters out of it. Hopefully there will be at least one round of remasters more. ;) But I think a lot of it was thanks to Jim Vessella he worked hard for this and he did his absolute best to give us what we wanted.
@demonlordotrt754
@demonlordotrt754 3 жыл бұрын
@@kazmark_gl8652 it shows how mutch we hurt there wallet's in defience in there stupid money grabs.
@kanekarazi6477
@kanekarazi6477 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking amazing what our species can do out of compassion and by working together, too bad that is rarely ever the case, and this is what made this so beautiful, I'm really happy the C&C universe is still alive and kicking.
@johngaudet7363
@johngaudet7363 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that Community Council was a great idea from them
@InnuendoXP
@InnuendoXP 3 жыл бұрын
yess been waiting for this! Hoping for a HD remaster of Tiberian Sun too
@onelead
@onelead 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@tyrael43
@tyrael43 3 жыл бұрын
Red Alert 2 Remaster will end my social life
@giantnerd14
@giantnerd14 3 жыл бұрын
I am praying for a TibSun/RA2 remaster. Especially since this release had Steam Workshop support.
@tyrael43
@tyrael43 3 жыл бұрын
@@giantnerd14 I played the shit out of that game simply awsome.
@starstorm9198
@starstorm9198 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they also make the code for the two games open-source as well, there's loads of mods for TS and RA2 that would benefit massively if they were able to change some things that they can't right now.
@PaulXPZ
@PaulXPZ 3 жыл бұрын
I want Red Alert 2 and Generals remastered. Those 2 were my absolute favorite C&C titles
@gorudonu
@gorudonu 3 жыл бұрын
Red alert 2 - yessss
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
We could just rerelease them with some improvements (like Generals having a less laggy multiplayer and RA2 having some graphical upgrades in some voxels, like the Harrier looking more like an A-6 Intruder) rather than overkilling it with a so called "remaster"; however, Dune II and Tiberian Sun DO need a graphical and gameplay Remaster.
@addictedfoolgamer1970
@addictedfoolgamer1970 3 жыл бұрын
Deliver Overkill please!
@gorudonu
@gorudonu 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 open sourcing code would help greatly
@kazmark_gl8652
@kazmark_gl8652 3 жыл бұрын
1 why does everyone want a generals Remaster so bad? like everything about that game is dated now and its been dated since the end of Obama's first term, if not the Bush administration. 2. Tiberian sun needs a remake before generals. 3. I feel like every time someone says "when is the remake of Red Alert 2 coming out" poor jimturn throws his hands up in the air and yells "we're working on it god damn it" in exasperation
@afterburner94
@afterburner94 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of painful work delivered by the Malaysian artists at Lemon Sky is to be commended. What a gargantuan task.Amazing documentary , even with lockdown constraints!
@Vvardenfell_Outlander
@Vvardenfell_Outlander 3 жыл бұрын
This release is one of the most expertly handled remasters ever made. I hope Tiberian Sun gets the treatment next. THANK YOU EA, PETROGLYPH & LEMON SKY!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
what do we want more command and conquer remastered when do we want it NOW!!!!!
@mho...
@mho... Жыл бұрын
tiberian sun was/is still the best C&C when it comes to unit diversity & transformable terrain & the "living" feeling of the maps! such a shame they cut it down after EA took over & then killed the franchise 😮‍💨
@FluffySylveonBoi
@FluffySylveonBoi Жыл бұрын
@@mho... The EA workers looked really happy about making the remake though, looks like they really want to make a good C&C game but either don't know how without the old team or gave in to the demands of businessmen who fund them and had to make the games that way.
@Jonnicom
@Jonnicom 3 жыл бұрын
This remaster exists purely because of the love the fans have for the franchise, and the community keeping it's voice loud, even years after all hope was lost. It just speaks to how great these games are. I'm getting a little emotional watching this. Just seeing all of the love that went into making this happen, seeing Frank talk about the music, and Petroglyph saying it was "music to their ears"...it's such a special franchise to me. I discovered CnC 1 in 1998, at just 6 years old, but I never looked back. To everyone being negative in the replies, enjoy your pissy Cheerios!
@goffe2282
@goffe2282 3 жыл бұрын
Devs are really passionate people. I'm sure that even if you talk to the WC3 Reforged people they will be as passionate, but for all possible reasons they were not able to make a proper remastering without destroying what already existed. At any rate, this was great fun. I'm popping off to buy this just to show my support. To some extent, I wish they would make new games rather than visiting old ones, but preserving history is also important and this is a really good way to do that.
@shingshongshamalama
@shingshongshamalama 3 жыл бұрын
Call me cynical, but this remaster exists because EA want more money out of a studio they killed for no reason.
@ashleygoggs5679
@ashleygoggs5679 3 жыл бұрын
@@shingshongshamalama its not that, its more along the lines of EA wants to rebirth a dead franchise in order to milk it dry again. They know theres millions of fans out there dying for C&C so why not give us what we want and create hype so they can monetize it once more. Business wise it makes an incredible amount of sense. However will they kill it again or will they allow the franchise too flourish once more? I mean if they actually let C&C flourish it could have the potential to show against SC2 as an esports game, which too me is what EA should be thinking about and this way everyone wins.
@kwizzeh
@kwizzeh 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashleygoggs5679 RTS games are considered niche now and aren't the powerhouse they once were ten years ago. It would be a difficult sell regardless of esports asperations or not. But just because it's difficult doesn't mean it's possible. EA has shown that with a hands off approach, there still can be lots of profits to be made. Respawn's last few games lately has been largely free to do with what they wanted for their games and proof that EA can layoff on interfering development. That would be the best way for C&C to flourish in the future. Just let Petroglyph do what they want to do - within reason, not an entire carte blanch - and it's very likely to be a hit.
@jazzmaster909
@jazzmaster909 3 жыл бұрын
@jvalex18 and there's nothing wrong with that, they made a great product, and great products sell.
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness 3 жыл бұрын
Man I really hope they give Tiberian Sun and RA2 the same treatment. That would be a dream come true.
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 3 жыл бұрын
We played the original version of this multiplayer endlessly in the mid 1990s on the network at work after the boss went home at night. We called it 'chess in real-time' it was amazing.
@Hobointhehallway
@Hobointhehallway 3 жыл бұрын
This was clearly a labor of love, the detail they went down to in ensuring the game is simply restored and not modified is incredible.
@AbbreviatedReviews
@AbbreviatedReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea that they recreated unit animations from squinting at the blurry pixelated original. They did such a great job with the art upscale. The authenticity is astounding. The music is on the same level. The CG videos are a bit rough though. The FMV upscale worked well, but doing that with the CG rendered ones just made small blurry videos into big blurry videos. If there was any single part that I'd have been happy seeing remade, it would be those.
@damsen978
@damsen978 3 жыл бұрын
It's because it was done by the very same team except for the sprite-work, they had the original vision of the games and kept it that way (like avoiding adding in engine sounds into vehicles, 10/10 decision) while making the obvious improvements needed in 2020 like matchmaking and what not. This is exactly how every remaster should be made, plus, they had the original game's concept art so they filled the details they could not back in the day, which is awesome, that's why it's so well done, it's also thanks for how transparent they were with the community, makes me wish every other remaster was done this way as well.
@ThatShyGuyMatt
@ThatShyGuyMatt 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of figured it would be hard to really improve much on the videos. At least they tried. I think if they rerecorded them it probably would have been a to HD and you may notice the cheap budget lol. Not complaining mind you, the cheesiness sometimes is one of the many things I love about the games. Tim Curry anyone?
@Peylix
@Peylix 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, those didn't bother me one bit. I think it adds charm to the remaster and further solidifies the end product being super well done. For me, C&C's Remaster is one of the better remasters to have come out in a long ass time. Not remake (before anyone want's to chime in with RE or FF haha). I grew up playing both C&C & Red Alert. Played those two games more than any other as a kid and seeing the original blurry/pixelated CG clips gave me a huge wave of nostalgia. I think part of the reason why this remaster worked so well is because they kept it as close to the original as possible. Even if that means not having CGI rendered by 2020 standards like an action film. It works and does it's job quite well.
@Spaced92
@Spaced92 3 жыл бұрын
The original videos don't hurt my eyes like the new ones do, but it does look better to the point you notice flaws in the CG videos you clearly aren't supposed to notice.
@retroshark
@retroshark 3 жыл бұрын
This game changed my life. This game changed everything. The remaster could not have been handled or been done better by anyone. It’s literally perfect. Just seeing and hearing Frank talking about the process of recreating the audio and sound fx brought tears to my eyes. Stylistically, cinematically and artistically - this game is absolute perfection. The nostalgia factor is so high its off the charts. I just feel so blessed to have been able to witness it from inception to its current remastered status, and to have played and have the ability to play a game so iconic as this one. Words cant describe the feelings I have about this project. Its just so so immense. I’m so happy I lived to see this.
@user-cp2vg7gn1h
@user-cp2vg7gn1h 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Noclip: 1st - amazing documentary, as always. Your qulity of work and your efforts never stop to amaze me. A pleasure to see, a rare thing nowadays. 2nd - just wanted to suggest a documentary for a game XIII (2003, a comic style action game). It was a very unusual experience back in the day for me, this game just sucked me in completely. I think, it's pretty unique till this day. Maby you might want to take a look or if you played it, just to remind you. Thank you for your amazing work.
@VelvetThunderB99
@VelvetThunderB99 3 жыл бұрын
Also XIII is getting a remake
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 3 жыл бұрын
@@VelvetThunderB99 WHAT? :-)
@VelvetThunderB99
@VelvetThunderB99 3 жыл бұрын
@@igorthelight kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXu4YZ93YteeraM
@retroshark
@retroshark 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I’m not the only one!!! This would make my life complete. XIII will always be in the top 5 for me personally.
@JanIvarCarlsen
@JanIvarCarlsen 3 жыл бұрын
Really clever to frame the small interview videos in the HUD and loading screen graphics! Great way to work with what you've got and at the same time making it fun and immersive :) Awesome to finally get a doc on C&C, been hoping for it for years now.
@EricMalette
@EricMalette 3 жыл бұрын
If you play the remaster, the whole intro sequence does the HD graphics upgrade bit within the context of the game UI and it's hilarious. What a great homage.
@613aristocrat
@613aristocrat 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my siblings played the heck out of these games as kids. Red Alert 2 and Tiberium Sun are still my faves. "Kane lives in death! Kane LIVES!" Joe Kucan killed that role.
@kdash20002
@kdash20002 3 жыл бұрын
Peace through Power brother
@arlandblack1139
@arlandblack1139 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, Danny could probably do a whole video on the tech alone involved in making Tiberian Sun. Yuri's Revenge sold better than any sane person on the numbers side of the industry could have possibly predicted. Developers are still trying to capture that kind of lightning in a bottle--to this day.
@Avossk
@Avossk 3 жыл бұрын
Noclip's been on a roll with the projects that I'm interested in! Here's hoping we get a Tib Sun/RA2 remaster!
@KapitanWasTaken
@KapitanWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын
There is a mistake in the subtitles at 3:41 There should be "Dune II" instead of "Doom 2"
@alexandrebotev5038
@alexandrebotev5038 3 жыл бұрын
Yes It should be Dune 2!
@Aar1sW
@Aar1sW 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, the RTS classic, the famous Doom 2.
@Nyerguds
@Nyerguds 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aar1sW So different from Doom 1!
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
At least we can all agree that both games are good (though Doom II aged much better). Still waiting on that possible Dune II Remastered.
@Kulgur
@Kulgur 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 I saw a video on that topic recently - essentially, rights issues will prevent it from happening; Frank Herbert's estate still has control of the Dune rights, and are hostile to the idea of doing anything with the series.
@Shamino1
@Shamino1 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to see so many thousands of others who still feel a genuine passion for such an incredible RTS series. When I installed the Remaster of Tiberian Dawn I travelled back in time to my father rushing home from work with a copy of C&C for me. He passed three years ago, and the installation of Tiberian Dawn made me feel that *precise* anticipation and elation I felt 25 years ago. Westwood Studios is a venerated Saint of the gaming industry.
@trapical
@trapical 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to see praise (much deserved) heaped onto Westwood, you should look at the award they won at the 2015 Game Awards for being an 'industry icon'. Either search google for that phrase, or watch the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3aUcquNlt9ppJI Brings a tear to my eyes everytime, seeing them recognized for what they managed to do.
@bami2
@bami2 3 жыл бұрын
The original C&C used a stock-effects library for most of the screams and those sound effects got etched into my brain. It still sometimes takes me out of movies or series when I hear a scream in the background I've heard for thousands of times playing this game.
@jmal
@jmal 3 жыл бұрын
What's amazing is that they use the same death sounds for other games in the series, all the way up to _Tiberium Wars._
@HarpKenneth
@HarpKenneth 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember that I had the Manual for Red Alert with me on vacation back when the game came out, so that I could read up on all the units in the game, that I would play when I got home, and I remember when I started to mess with the .ini files in the game folder to make V2 Rocket launch across the whole map, and stuff like that, I still have the game and case and everything :)
@trapical
@trapical 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I remember taking the game manual with me to school when I was 10, so I could read up on the units during the bus ride home. I still remember some of the lines too, like how the manual described Cruisers as "Slow moving death", and how the entry for attack dogs ended with "and they also make good pets!"
@Flielow
@Flielow 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if we will be able to mess with .ini file on the new version. I added missile launchers to submarines in my version of the game. I also still have the ps1 version of C&C and Red Alert. =P
@PerpetualAlfa
@PerpetualAlfa 2 жыл бұрын
Frank's enthusiasm is heart warming
@lupusthethird
@lupusthethird Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up playing Command & Conquer, and currently works in software development, this was super interesting. Thanks for doing this!!
@johnnyxp64
@johnnyxp64 3 жыл бұрын
well done documentary... and i liked you took time to talk to LS studio in Malaysia. Their work on Starcraft Broodwar Remastered was phenomenal. just like in cnc
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
It's StarCraft I Remastered, since Brood War is an expansion pack.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
Also, quite impressive for a Malaysian company. Succeeding where their Communist enemies from China have horrendously failed (talking to YOU, "Blizzard Entertainment").
@GunLinser
@GunLinser 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 LS studio did Reforged too, you know.
@jmal
@jmal 3 жыл бұрын
@@GunLinser And Lemon Sky's talent was wasted on that terrible game.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
@@GunLinser How did they effing mess up? Did those ChiComs sabotage their attempted work on WC3R?
@TigerXGame
@TigerXGame 3 жыл бұрын
As far as C&C goes, there is nothing I want more right now than a Tiberian Sun remaster. Giving that game the same treatment as this remaster would just steamroll the review charts with praise.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention fixing TS's flaws like the failed potential of the Hunter-Killer Droid, the air units not having a large LoS, and the absence of a third faction (as in the Forgotten and/or CABAL).
@jamesmclane8595
@jamesmclane8595 3 жыл бұрын
And Firestorm!
@n0denz
@n0denz 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope so. TS was my jam.
@dpixp
@dpixp 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, there was recent article, I think it was a year ago, Petroglyph Games was looking inside game engine for their AI pathfinding of Tiberian Sun. Maybe there will be a possibility of them announcing a remaster of RA2 and TS? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iV65cn9tetWhadE
@iamnotaweebiswear8940
@iamnotaweebiswear8940 3 жыл бұрын
Oh 100% there will be. I’m sure is very early in dev and if anyone in the community knows they are under heavy NDAs. This remaster has gotten high sales, crazy praise from press and fans, etc. EA now has a hit on their hands and remastering others make sense. Maybe announcing remasters and then a brand new game in the style of the originals. Doing it all at once would generate massive hype. They seem to, at least for command and conquer, open to the modding community so I see in the future built in modding tools and making modding a bigger thing.
@doonishsan
@doonishsan 3 жыл бұрын
wow, a Malaysian company also helped developing the game? thats pretty cool
@me24469
@me24469 3 жыл бұрын
So proud for a Malaysian studio being involved in this project! Side note: Beside from being part of C&C remastered, FFVII remake, etc, lemon sky is also part of The Last of Us 2. Also I actually hope for new C&C Generals rather than further remake/remasters. However, any further C&C is always a good thing.
@ricardoflores3232
@ricardoflores3232 Жыл бұрын
me24469 ; Me 3 .
@jamimanful
@jamimanful 3 жыл бұрын
I have such vivid memories of me and my brothers crowding round and watching our eldest bro play the old cnc games for hours at a time. We'd laugh together at the cutscenes and cheer every time he won. Inspired me to sink many many hours into the whole series later in my life. Thankyou Westwood for the great times
@spideliciousx9822
@spideliciousx9822 3 жыл бұрын
RA2 and Tiberian Sun remasters will make me VERY happy. As much as I did love C&C1 and RA1, RA2 and TS were my favs by a country mile.
@studioviper3016
@studioviper3016 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid in the mid-90s, I setup a 2nd pc in my bedroom and connected them up using 10base2 t-connected networking specifically to play c&c in 2 player skirmishes. Love this remaster.
@escapee909909
@escapee909909 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Lemon Sky is the hero here huh - their role in a remaster seems to be where things can really go off into a ditch. But, they pulled it off! This whole project is a new bar.
@damsen978
@damsen978 3 жыл бұрын
All of them were heroes.
@OldMan_PJ
@OldMan_PJ 3 жыл бұрын
The graphics are the worst part, the original had military colors, this has Crayola day-glo kindergarten colors.
@escapee909909
@escapee909909 3 жыл бұрын
@@OldMan_PJ Well, individual design choices aside - such detail-oriented, contracted work across the globe tends to be the point of breakdown for these operations. The fact that color choices might be your primary complaint in this case, I'd call that a win.
@escapee909909
@escapee909909 3 жыл бұрын
@@damsen978 Agree!
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was really great to add them to this doc. Would have been easy to just interview the Westwood/Petroglyph teams, but Lemon Sky are a huge part of why this remaster was so well-received.
@engitect
@engitect 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to find this documentary, it shows to how deep the developers, producers and Frank Klepacki with the Tiberian Sons feel about reviving this franchise. Happy to be a part of this wonderful community. Thanks Noclip!
@clayp6415
@clayp6415 Жыл бұрын
C&C 95 , dune 2 , starcraft, warcraft 1-2 ... There were so many amazing rts games out at this time. I have very fond memories playing all of these games extensively as a kid.
@Matt7895
@Matt7895 Жыл бұрын
This was a kind of miracle. I've been gaming since Command and Conquer first came out (I know some may read this who have been gaming for even longer). I didn't think something like this was still possible. Not just a re-release of an old game, but one done with love and care and - importantly - with the involvement of the original creators.
@GADEMHS
@GADEMHS 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting that Lemon Studios also worked on the Warcraft 3 "Reforged" and the work that was delivered was nothing like C&C in terms of quality, original feel, and detail. Observe closer Blizzard, learn and remaster your culture to the glorious times you once belonged to.
@ShellComics
@ShellComics 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing documentary as always but the treatment of the interviews was awesome! Such a great idea! Tiberian Sun and Red Alert are games that are close to my heart and it was handled beautifully! I still have my original copies :D SPPPPPPAAAACCCCCEEEEE
@theDesignClass
@theDesignClass Жыл бұрын
I love this about KZbin. This is like a PBS quality level broadcast, but about a niche topic. I love the history and detail to this classic game.
@fluxcorenz
@fluxcorenz 3 жыл бұрын
As a huge C&C fan from back in the day, the team behind the remaster have done a fantastic job on all fronts (although the CG does indeed look pretty dodgy - would love a scanline option which might make it more pleasing). The gameplay decision to leave it pretty original, the wonderful audio work done by Frank Klepacki (which only makes an incredible soundtrack even better!), and the superb graphics work, which I now know was done by Lemon Sky (huge props to them for knocking the upscale out of the park - I've seen so many old games lose all their atmosphere and cohesion when being redrawn) are all spot on. Open sourcing the code was the icing on the cake. I'm so glad this release was made as it was!
@Nerun2000
@Nerun2000 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to thank you guys for the Documentary and also the whole dev team involved in the Remaster. C&C 1 was one of the first "big" games on PC for me, so I have very fond memory of it. The Soundtrack always stuck with me, I loved the genre, starting with Dune 2 (sadly EA doesn't have the rights to do a Remaster of Dune 2(000). I got a review code for the game, but went ahead and bought a steam copy as well, just cause I wanted to show my appreciation. Sadly it wasn't easy to get a physical copy of the game in Europe/Germany, otherwise I would have wanted to buy that one as well. I also appreciate the Documentary and Frank for mentioning the German version of the game. I played the Remaster in now uncut, just to keep that old feeling up, usually I play games in English these days. I think they did a great job and put a lot of effort and love into it, which some other Remasters were sadly missing, not gonna name them, but RTS fans will know ^^ The installation was so unique and hooked you to the universe right away back then and that they brought it back in a way was just one point that proved how much they and the community members involved care. The old EA logo in the main menu, being able to click on the "secret" spots in the main menu to launch the dino/ant missions, etc. Not to mention the special Kane video ahead of launch, including a hidden website link and so on. Thanks NoClip and thanks EA, Petroglyph and Lemon Sky Studios for this Documentary and bringing back one of my "childhood" memories in that way. To this day I already spend more than 30 hours again with the Remaster, the only sad thing is that, I didn't get a hard copy of the game as a collector. Hopefully we'll get a Remaster of RA 2 and Tiberian Sun next, maybe with better quality videos and I'll be happy (until a somehow hopefully happening Dune 2/2000 Remaster can happen).
@bubuasqw123
@bubuasqw123 3 жыл бұрын
6:21 xD What a convenient time to see that sentence!
@amrthehammer
@amrthehammer Жыл бұрын
I had no idea there was a remaster as I don’t follow gaming news much anymore. But this brought back so many memories. My friends and I spent countless hours playing C&C as kids. And there hasn’t been anything truly like it since. Thanks for this.
@SpookySW
@SpookySW 3 жыл бұрын
This game was such a big part of my childhood and growing up. Not because I was the player but because my father loved it and played it hundreds of hours. I spent a long time watching him and talking to him about the game. It brought us closer together. Can't wait to watch this doc with him and buying him this game so he can play it again now so many years later. Thanks for bringing back these memories!
@SuperHns
@SuperHns 3 жыл бұрын
yeah man my dad got us our first WIndows MS-Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11 PC back in 1995!!!! This is one of my first games I ever played, I came from the C64/128 and Sega Megadrive, so Imagine 12 year old me hearing those incredible sounds and music on a Soundblaster 16 with big ass desktop speakers. I think it was even a Demo from CNC, so I told my dad to buy the full game, which he did! Then Red Alert 1 just blew us away completely!!!!
@JanB1605
@JanB1605 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Noclip Thanks for the great documentaroes you always out out! May I have a small request? When you guys talk about studios that put out so many games I would love it if you guys could write the name of the game somewhere when you show footage. For example at 6:52, whisch game is this? Never seen this one.
@MrDanDJRose
@MrDanDJRose 3 жыл бұрын
8 bit armies en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-Bit_Armies
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming Жыл бұрын
Dude, holydamn...those guides or books bring up so many memories, I bought Red Alert deluxe and it came with all these cool papers that gave a detailed explanation of all the units and showed them in greater detail or resolution than the actual game. I remember spending a lot of time just flipping through the pages, amazed by how the game was shipped with such an awesome book that gave you so much extra information.
@pho3nix-
@pho3nix- 9 күн бұрын
I'm really happy I got to experience the Remaster, I still play it from time to time unlike most games which end up gathering dust in your Steam library
@LDJ89
@LDJ89 3 жыл бұрын
Came across your channel when quarantine hit, I am in love with your content. Keep up the great work!
@ulrichkrause1579
@ulrichkrause1579 3 жыл бұрын
Again. A very good documentary. The Idea to use the Frame Design from the game for the webcam videos is very good. Also and very importand: it is not boring. As soon as it will be uploaded official, i will share it with some friiends. Good work. Keep on (after you break / vacation) and of course: stay save!
@jsmythib
@jsmythib 10 ай бұрын
I was hooked back in 95-6...Remastered pulled me back in with months of gameplay. They did a great job.
@enilenis
@enilenis 2 жыл бұрын
Been working in film and doing programming for over 2 decades, all thanks to a friend giving me Red Alert CD for birthday in the 90's. I wanted to know how to do everything, that makes a game like that possible, and ended up choosing this as a career path. Game makers don't realize how many lives they affect positively. I'm a living proof.
@Admjoh
@Admjoh 3 жыл бұрын
I am so thankful for this remaster. Such amazing games and I instantly bought it when it came out to support the people doing the world and encouraging future work. Thanks for another great video no clip!
@ann0ynim0us
@ann0ynim0us 3 жыл бұрын
27:04 So proud of my own countrymen bringing my childhood days back to life :D Bring aboard the same team for TS and RA2 EA, don't SCREW up the momentum.
@PKAmedia
@PKAmedia 3 жыл бұрын
Been playing this, and yeah this remaster really is just setting a gold standard for remastered games. Watching this doco and not surprised at all to hear about the passion behind the people who helped make it happen. That passion really shows. Great doco.
@garethjohnstone8662
@garethjohnstone8662 Жыл бұрын
You don't know a special moment has happened until it's a distant memory. Happy days playing this with not a care in the world. Playing a part of gaming history when it was first released. I had a Megadrive/genisis before I got a PC and C&C blew me away, right from the installation. It felt so advanced.
@xieliming
@xieliming 3 жыл бұрын
Worth adding that they released the engine source code too, which is very fitting way to give back to the community which has kept it alive all these years.
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 3 жыл бұрын
True! So now there is TWO C&C engines: original which is partially* open sourced and a C# fan made implementation (OpenRA) * Input/output and assets are not open sourced
@punisheddante5879
@punisheddante5879 3 жыл бұрын
8:55 I love when these cold executives show their humanity and don't talk through the corporate buzzword bullshitery, I would of have the same reaction as Jim did
@annihilism7312
@annihilism7312 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is what happens when you trust a team of truly talented people. I really hope to see more remasters in the future from the C&C franchise, especially tiberian sun or RA2
@CenarosNL
@CenarosNL 3 жыл бұрын
So much love for anyone who worked on this. Thanks for bringing back my childhood.
@albertoalvarez7623
@albertoalvarez7623 Жыл бұрын
Man the memories this game and age of empires brings back is insane. Red alert 2 probably has the most hours on any game I've played.
@dwmarch
@dwmarch 3 жыл бұрын
Feels like only yesterday when EA was... less supportive of the C&C franchise. I guess Kane must have stopped by and given them one vision, one purpose.
@lgndk11r
@lgndk11r 3 жыл бұрын
You could say... he offered them the technology of peace.
@kanekarazi6477
@kanekarazi6477 3 жыл бұрын
Is that camera still running?!
@CsyeCokTheSolly
@CsyeCokTheSolly 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, Jimtern is just a chad.
@JAFOpty
@JAFOpty Жыл бұрын
Now we need Tiberian Sun Remastered PLEASE!!!
@johngaudet7363
@johngaudet7363 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see this franchise get all this positive attention, since I too was one who thought the franchise would eventually just die off. I always enjoyed playing the games and watching competitive matches, especially for C&C3, so I hope these remasters continue and that a true sequel is on the horizon soon. Based on the level of polish and passion shown in this amazing remaster, I'm sure C&C5 will be fantastic and i'm really looking forward to it
@rallyledesma9603
@rallyledesma9603 3 жыл бұрын
The original C&C is the game that made me fall in love with gaming back in the 90s, I'm so happy to get to play it again. Fascinating story on how the remaster came to be, thank you!
@Romanian901
@Romanian901 3 жыл бұрын
wow these guys actually thought "what if we are out of touch? lets just gather the big contributors in the community to tell us what fans want"
@giantnerd14
@giantnerd14 3 жыл бұрын
It was a miracle.
@Romanian901
@Romanian901 3 жыл бұрын
@@giantnerd14 miracle was how ea allowed it
@jmal
@jmal 3 жыл бұрын
It's genuinely surprising that EA has any self-awareness at all.
@iamnotaweebiswear8940
@iamnotaweebiswear8940 3 жыл бұрын
Jun Malabanan seems like they are gaining sentience recently
@SomniaCE
@SomniaCE 8 ай бұрын
Genuinely such a stupid idea for the most part but hey, they couldn't cause much harm in a remaster
@DoomRulz
@DoomRulz 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this. Thank you. I was hoping there'd be an interview with Joe Kucan as well but it was great all the same!
@bandygamy5898
@bandygamy5898 3 жыл бұрын
Kane doesn't give interviews to the media.
@templar23
@templar23 Жыл бұрын
Frank Klepacki has been a hero of mine ever since i first played the C&C demo back in 95-96. I was 12 :)
@Asidders
@Asidders 3 жыл бұрын
This is so great. I had no idea a team in Malaysia did the upscaling. So great that you interviewed them as well! 👏
@fouadalkhamy6413
@fouadalkhamy6413 3 жыл бұрын
And special thanks to Lemon Sky studios. The new visuals are AWESOOOOME! LETS hope Blizzard take notes
@zipzeolocke2
@zipzeolocke2 3 жыл бұрын
I hope Tim Curry is doing well these days. I wish he could've been interviewed in this video but I obviously understand why that's not possible due to his health. They did a brilliant job with this remaster. Kudos to them for allowing talented mod makers to work with them to make everyone in the community happy.I hope this sort of thing continues with other videogame developers. The more valuable input, the better the game for people who love it!
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
He's still alive, but barely.
@ivancito7790
@ivancito7790 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible documentary. I look forward to seeing what this unlikely combination of Petroglyph and the CnC3 team will do with the franchise moving ahead, especially with the positive feedback from the remaster, a remaster of TS and RA2... and then... bringing back the series from its ashes with brand new CnC games that live up to the quality we've come to love and expect... it's exciting. Neved did I think I'd see the day.
@plasmadrone3123
@plasmadrone3123 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the original uncompressed FMV tapes are lost, but still hoping they still exist somewhere.
@IggyStardust1967
@IggyStardust1967 3 жыл бұрын
When I first heard about the Remaster, it was already well under way, and I was guardedly optimistic about how it was going to go. The more news, images and gameplay video that came out, I went from guardedly optimistic to full on excited. Like many gamers, I didn't fully trust EA to do this right. A feeling that stung even more because I remember EA from back in the 80s being one of the best game companies out there. It seems to me that EA has figured out where they've gone wrong and are taking the proper steps to rebuild the trust that us older games once had with them. While I won't get ahead of myself and proclaim them absolved of past grievances, they are at least, forgiven for them. Between C&C: Remaster, and the upcoming Star Wars: Squadrons, I haven't been this excited to be a gamer since the late 80s. Like many other people, I am also hoping they take the same path with Tiberian Sun/Red Alert 2, even though I've never really been a fan of RA. I will gladly buy it to get TS, just as I did to get TD. Hell, I've bought pretty much every PC version of those two games that have been sold. The original versions(Win '95/98), The First Decade, The N-64 version(had to get those N64 specific missions), The Complete Collection, and now the Remaster. So yes, I will say to EA: Thank you for having the foresight to do this one right! Keep up the good work, and I look forward to seeing Tiberian Sun/Red Alert 2 in a few years(even though no official announcement has been made).
@sendark001
@sendark001 3 жыл бұрын
The animators did an amazing job
@FitzoPlays
@FitzoPlays 3 жыл бұрын
This game series was the reason I started using computers since I was 5 years old and I am now a programmer all these years later.. (I cannot imagine how much of a ball ache this was... well ... some idea). It will always have a deep imprint within my mind. I remember my father going mental at me for using dial up trying to play a friend (without permission). Thank you for doing this video, thank you to all those involved with this clearly laborious remaster and thank you for the iconic music. THANK YOU Alexa: Play Hell March
@bn357
@bn357 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work thanks for this really well put together documentary. I’m one of those who have fond memories of the original games and I bought the remaster without hesitation. Great to hear the guiding principles of that team throughout to make this such a great remaster true to the original spirit of the series.
@TheRedTieGuy
@TheRedTieGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@404BYTE
@404BYTE 3 жыл бұрын
You know the game is good when devs are addicted to their own game.
@lucifernebulae
@lucifernebulae 3 жыл бұрын
As a 33 year old, who played hours and hours of C&C and RA I really can say they did an excellent job overall. Music, sound, graphics and animations, improvements - all excellent! I just only hope this remaster was worth investing in... Would love to see RA2/Tiberian Sun to be remastered as well. I am quite curious how sales look and if EA is satisfied.
@UsernameNeutrality
@UsernameNeutrality 3 жыл бұрын
Kari Whurur was my first celebrity crush because of C&C and Sliders.
@meickler
@meickler 3 жыл бұрын
Love the command and conquer series red alert also GDI VS NOD.
@alexevaldez
@alexevaldez 3 жыл бұрын
Finally!
@otakuza5012
@otakuza5012 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Documentary. This project was a love letter to old school C&C Fans, thank you again to everyone who made this happen! Tib Sun/Firestorm next, please please please :)
@ah1rooivalk
@ah1rooivalk Жыл бұрын
Great approach to involve the community that loves this franchise so much.
@n0denz
@n0denz 3 жыл бұрын
>EA makes a good decision This is stranger than the RA3 timeline.
@cor3adept
@cor3adept 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Petroglyph revisiting Empire at War with EA's juicy Star Wars license...
@Zenarchist
@Zenarchist 11 ай бұрын
What a story. Such an awesome game, one of the first games I ever played as a kid which inspired my fascination in computers and eventually led me to pursue a lucrative career in programming. This game and a handful of others were what really grabbed my coding imagination back in those early years. And that soundtrack... god damn. Nothing but love for the team behind it.
@SeanNoonan
@SeanNoonan 3 жыл бұрын
Great doc! The intro video in the credits really brings me back to my childhood :)
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 3 жыл бұрын
@5:30 **EA kiss of death** When your independent game developer studio gets bought by EA. RIP Bullfrog, Origin, Westwood.
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 3 жыл бұрын
But Wait, There's More!! RIP NuFx, RIP Pandemic, RIP Playfish, RIP Blackbox, RIP Dreamworks, RIP Phenomic, RIP Victory, RIP Mythic, RIP Maxis, RIP Visceral
@Desanna
@Desanna 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'm about to share one of the most unpopular opinions ever, but as someone who adored Westwood from the beginning, eagerly anticipated the release of each of their games, and played them for countless hours to this day, C&C only got better after EA took over. Well, I still haven't really played Generals, and C&C4 was a huge misstep, but Tiberium Wars was such a massively dramatic improvement over prior games, it's hard to overstate it. They went on to make such smart choices in refining the design and flow that, despite all my love and nostalgia for Westwood's formative offerings, RA3: Uprising is easily the pinnacle of the series. With this revival of the franchise at hand, I'm not just excited to relive Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 in remastered form, I can't wait to get a new C&C game that takes its cues from the games EA had left off with.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 жыл бұрын
@@Desanna TW was a bit forgettable compared to the first two Tiberium games, sadly.
@leonardodomingues9010
@leonardodomingues9010 3 жыл бұрын
i got in trouble for drawing a hammer and sickle in elementary school cause of red alert lol
@n0denz
@n0denz 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, same.
@BertisAU
@BertisAU 3 жыл бұрын
Now you'd get an A
@CapralHarrison
@CapralHarrison 3 жыл бұрын
Really? you were in a lecture that communism is bad?
@Shamino1
@Shamino1 3 жыл бұрын
@@BertisAU Underrated comment.
@RaijinshiOfficial
@RaijinshiOfficial 10 ай бұрын
As a Malaysian I'm so glad and proud Lemon Sky Studios got plenty of love!
@Damarious25
@Damarious25 3 жыл бұрын
This needed to be much much longer. Post everything. Make a part 2. I'm Canadian but more props need to go to Malaysia and that entire team!!! Not to do downplay the work of everyone involved but to give the visual credit where it is due. This whole experience is a "by gamers, for gamers" project and I'm still at a loss for words to EVERYONE involved. Also, go deeper into the community involvement. Community members from all over the world were involved (not me), track those folks down. I'd love to hear the stories of those community members who love the series. First experiences, lasting memories, what kept them hooked, who they are as people, and what kept them hooked for so many years. I live in the middle of nowhere but I still remember the day I walked into a CD shop (when they existed) and saw a guy in a long dark green coat full of NOD badges. I thought "I'm killing everyone in my home town but who the hell is this guy? He'd likely murder me in Red Alert". Find those members... Find that community... Do a community reaction to the remaster.... Please... Love you all the same regardless of what comes in the future...
@mmking9999
@mmking9999 3 жыл бұрын
SPACE
@ErukanuSenpai
@ErukanuSenpai 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly if EA does it the right way like they did with this remaster.... In all seriousness I see a future where CnC would be played on big tournaments streamed on platforms Imagine a renegade-like shooter watched by thousand of folks xD
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 3 жыл бұрын
"Imagine a renegade-like shooter" - so RenegadeX? :-)
@Codex0nz
@Codex0nz 3 жыл бұрын
Really awesome doco guys! Really grateful to see this side of everything. Did you guys touch on the open sourcing of the game engine? I found that really interesting too!
@Manospondylus
@Manospondylus 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Curry saying "SPaaaaCe" always makes me smile. 😁
@pacshb
@pacshb 8 ай бұрын
Tiberian Sun remaster when
@glenharris9366
@glenharris9366 3 жыл бұрын
Only played one command & conquer game Has no real interest in the franchise Sees No Clip upload 40 min doc Clicks immediately
@ONormanO
@ONormanO 3 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing, a note to all game companies on how Remastering should be done. Good job Noclip and big thanks!
@Red-in4fx
@Red-in4fx 3 жыл бұрын
Your documentaries are always awesome! Thank you for this.
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