Nodap Podcast - Episode 42

[@wooribae1123]

I've been listening NoDap Podcast whenever I go for a walk. It was always interesting how you guys share your stories and thoughts and it inspired me a lot. Hope NoDap will be back soon :) I am always here!

[@estherkim665]

Nodap merch is gonna hit so hard, very excited! Love from an Aussie viewer xx

[@987kpop]

I definitely agree with Jono about the extreme lack of press about racism towards the AAPI community compared to BLM. In particular, it irks me how ALL asian influencers are posting about AAPI, but other influencers (mainly white) who may have posted about BLM or other important social movements are not posting about racism towards Asians. Why??? It's messed up, racism is basic respect - it's not politics.

[@Apochocolate]

Can't wait to watch the episode you guys shot with Abe and Joan!

[@mylavandaa1225]

The fact that you look so confy wend you’re filming nodap it’s what we like I think 😅, make me feel I’m with you and you have a nice chat ✨👌🏽

[@gracejin9705]

Missing the Nodap podcast ;) Love from a fan in Sydney, hope you guys are well and healthy

[@hung2]

thank you for talking about stopasianhate. i really admire your content & your creative concept, Dasha! Although I'm eager for your yt uploads, I hope you guys are safe&well~

[@MelissaPoonwanderluster]

I love your weekly vlogs Dasha!!! Maybe a fortnightly vlog? HAHAHAHA Love you!

[@987kpop]

Im a subscriber from hong kong and its nice to hear jono speak in cantonese. It does suck though that we grow up hearing so many racial slurs. Luckily I am starting to hear these words less and less around me - I think people are learning

[@mononoaware1293]

I live in Chinatown NYC and I must say its definitely a very scary time. Every time I go out to run errands I have to have my guard up 1000000%. Stay safe people. Please carry a pepper spray!

[@c_hello_oo]

i miss nodap!! :(

[@Itiskiki]

The whole « give the same energy y’all have to BLM » is kind of a weird rhetoric because are you sure you want that same energy ? Being ignored for years and then when you finally get the attention for the movement you have people being performative as hell and not giving a single fuck and going back to normal racism because they had enough of pretending to be allies ! Is that the energy y’all want ? To have a movement to make noise but not result in actual punishment for the perpetrators !? While you are directing your frustration to the black community and turning this into a “which oppressed groups gets the spotlight” olympics why don’t you go to the white own brands that celebrates lunar year every time by making you spend more money for some red packaging but have gone quiet for the past year ? Cause let’s not act like these attacks are just recent. Nobody wants to be oppressed, so why are y’all feeling some type of way when black people just want to live a better life !??? Instead of focusing on that we should all come together and make sure that EVERY SINGLE MINORITIES (the Asians now more than ever) can live in peace in their neighborhoods without the fear of dying simply because of their race.

[@nodappodcast1666]

Yeah I agree with a weird rhetoric and I guess it’s hard to explain in words. I’ll try my best. First of all not trying to discount anything from BLM, obviously and extremely important cause and I still feel that it shouldn’t be swept under the rug after all the hype and we should continue having open discussions. What I’m trying to highlight is that it was important for BLM to have as much social media/ media exposure as possible from non black celebrities, influencers and the general public, in order to create awareness. I just hope that non Asian celebrities, influencers and people understand that without their help it’s not going to be easy for Asians alone to spread awareness through the population. I’m a huge nba fan and the fact is that BLM was plastered all over players jerseys, advert breaks and warm up gear, they even had moments of silences for the black murdered. Question is why can’t Asians can’t get the same treatment for Stop Asian Hate? In my opinion both causes are extremely important and would love to see some more support.

[@Itiskiki]

@@nodappodcast1666 I 100% agree, #StopAsianHate should be everywhere because what the Asian community is going through right now is painfully indescribable, all I am saying is it should be getting as much exposure as possible because it’s an important topic, it’s members of their community that are getting killed (as in Asian American are as much Americans as any communities), it’s people (Asians) that holds places where they can get a service from and so much more that’s why it matters, not in spite of the BLM movement.

[@nodappodcast1666]

Yep agreed. Think we are along the lines on he same page. need to make it a norm in every country, not just in America that everyone should be treated equally regardless of skin colour.

[@Itiskiki]

@@nodappodcast1666 DEFINITELY 🗣 ! Amen to that ! No one should feel unsafe anywhere in the world and the fact that we have to normalize that is sad.

[@gchan9990]

As an Asian American female who has been living in NYC my whole life, I've never been this concerned for own safety, and my friends and family's safety. We constantly worry if we're going to be the next person on the news. I agree that it's debatable whether the Atlanta shooter was racist or not, but the Atlanta shooting was a breaking point for most Asian-Americans. There has been an increase in senseless attacks on Asian-Americans since the beginning of the pandemic and mainstream media has only started covering them recently. At times, they don't even show the faces of the attackers when it doesn't fit their political narrative. Like Steven Yeun said, "Sometimes I wonder if the Asian-American experience is what it's like when you're thinking about everyone else, but nobody else is thinking about you". The sad truth is Asian-Americans are statistically insignificant in America for politicians, the media, and others to care about.

[@MissMakeItYourOwn]

Jono - I know you said Australia is relatively safe, but I'm not mistaken last week in Australia a man went inside an Asians family home with a machete and attacked the family.. You guys made a lot of good points, I agree that the exposure and support of AAPI is not as much as it should be :( it makes me sad for all minorities that we don't all stand up and support one another, everyone stay safe.

[@nodappodcast1666]

Yeah interesting just read up on that. What an insane story. This really didn’t get enough media coverage. I don’t think they’ve caught the perpetrators unfortunately. Personally I think it’s hard to say if it’s racially motivated or maybe gang affiliated or just a random attack. Hopefully the law catch them and puts them to justice.

[@ByKristyLin]

i'd say, there is something wrong with wanting to be famous for the sake of it, i think vanity is one of the deadly sins for a reason

[@possible_thunderstorms1258]

I feel so connected to this episode especially the part that you wish your partner to be proactive but they never did😂 I too took a lot of good pictures when I found my partner is looking cute but he just won't do the same. I do understand when Jono said we can't say the shooter is racism when there's no proof of it. Things should always be evidence based to guarantee the justness.

[@debbie6074]

are yall ever going to make podcasts again 😪

[@ByKristyLin]

I also don't think the massage parlor mass shooting was predominantly a hate crime, I can't say that racism wasn't part of it at all, but I think it was what fit the narrative of a white male mass shooter. And so it finally was the story that launched a thousand instagram infographics. I think what feel more are like hate crimes to me are individual Asians being brutally attacked, especially elders or women (which probably has a bit of ageism and misogyny tossed in), but those stories didn't catch fire because it didn't fit the mainstream narrative. And I think this is what happens when there's an over-obsession with racial identity politics. Racism exists, but I don't think demonizing one race and lionizing another because of past pain is the way to solve things.

[@유호성-x8j]

not Steven You.. Steven Yeun~!

[@andanothermayo]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@jw3700]

What a terrible tone deaf take in the beginning that just made me turn off the episode. "Proof of being racist" Really? Super disappointing stuff.

[@nodappodcast1666]

Hey yo. I just think if we jump to conclusions and presume that everything that one ethnicity does to another regardless of motivations is racist, then we are kind of taking away from the times that real targeted racism happens. We need to base things on facts, and the fact is there’s no real evidence (unless there’s something I don’t know) that the shooting was racial motivated. let’s say a Korean person gets into a fight and assaults a white or black person. They say after that it wasn’t racially motivated. Would you jump to the conclusion that it was racism? Or would you consider the facts that we know and make a decision? I said in the podcast. We can’t say it’s NOT racism but the same accord we can’t say it’s racism...until we find out the facts. If you know something I don’t know would be keen to hear it. Stay safe!

[@jw3700]

@@nodappodcast1666 What is "real" racism? Does going to three different establishments and killing multiple asian women not constitute enough to be classified as "real"? Does a perpetrator have to announce, "I hate Asians!" (which by the way, multiple sources have said the murderer did say something along these lines from a witness--not captured on camera so not able to be verified)? Ignoring the "fact" that even the victim's reason behind his premeditated murders was his "sexual addiction"--this plays into the hyper-sexualization of Asian women in the USA and around the world. Furthemore, in the history of Asian people in the USA which from the beginning, was based off exploitation and racism (Chinese Exclusion Act, treatment of Chinese workers during the California gold rush, vagrancy laws/discrimination laws passed against the Japanese, LA Race Riots, etc.) In addition, the legality of a "hate crime" in the US is incredibly difficult to prosecute with, but that in now way diminishes the fact that this is a hate crime even if it cannot be legally prosecuted as one. You use the example of a Korean attacking a white/black person. Yes, you can take into context what happened in such a situation, on whether it's racist or not. That's a hypothetical situation that can have a million variables. We happen to know here, that whether this was a "sexual addiction" that led to the murder of 8 people and 6 Asian women. This was racist. A great article I've read has taught me this: "When prejudice is based on racial consideration it is race prejudice. However, race prejudice alone is not racism. When prejudice is combined with power it becomes racism. Power is the capacity to command, control, and dominate social reality for the purpose of achieving a desired outcome." The murderer here had a prejudice towards Asians, whether openly or implicitly. He combined that with power (as a white male with gun privilege, as well as the actual act of shooting, AND being able to walk out unscathed and unharmed from the police). Anyways, thanks for the level-headed response. Sorry for my jumbled and late response in turn, I didn't get any notification.

[@nodappodcast1666]

Hey Mate appreciate the response. I think it’s good to have open conversations, yeah we do say in the podcast it does have to do with the hyper sexualisation of Asian women and America has had a long standing history in movies and media in contributing to that. I see where you’re coming from and you come up with some great points. I mean on the flip side I understand it’s all hypothetically. If you replace the shooter with an Asian man who grew up in America and had an Asian fetish. Is it still racist or a hate crime? I think in America and Australia hate crimes are dealt with far better than here in Asia. I mean it’s facts that here in Korea there is no real punishment for hate crime. If you call the cops they might just move everyone along. Hate crimes pretty much get zero coverage and go to the extent that certain ethnicities are simply banned from entering restaurants/establishments....even where I live here in Jeju island. Anyways mate. Good chat. Thanks for the response again. Happy Easter.

[@michellelee1363]

Yeah personally I'm in the UK and I've been afraid to go out for the past year because my friends have been spat at and shouted "coronavirus" on the street :( There are many hate crimes against Asians in the UK as well. Last year a Singaporean student got punched in London really badly and the guy shouted "I dont want your coronavirus in this country", and there are many more other cases as well

[@michellelee1363]

Also, sorry that you experienced all that in your area and thanks for sharing about it

[@nodappodcast1666]

Dang I’m so sorry to hear that. It sucks to feel unsafe where you live, can’t imagine the feeling. Stay safe!